Jackson talks heating up with Cavs, Nuggets, Spurs, Hornets

Ginobili's name was mentioned by the Warriors side, not the Spurs side

by IQofaWarrior on Oct 28, 2009 2:42 PM PDT reply actions

it’s still ridiculous….I’m sure we’d love Duncan or Parker too. Stuff like that should never even be reported.

by NeifiChicken on Oct 28, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions

How are WE mulling over offers, we should say yes to almost anything,

by 123707THIZZ on Oct 28, 2009 2:43 PM PDT reply actions

why should

we take on bad contracts to get rid of jack? at least jack can do something… i don’t want eddy curry for example.

by saintdee on Oct 28, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions

Part of this has to do with control

If the Warriors blindly take on any offer just to get rid of Jack, then the Warriors are the weaker party here, because players will know that all they have to do is make noise to make the Warriors do something. If the Warriors take their time and find a player that actually benefits them, then the Warriors are the ones in control of the situation, and it shows that players cannot push the Warriors around. It also shows that other teams can’t treat the Warriors as dumping grounds for crappy players.

by IQofaWarrior on Oct 28, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions

On the other hand

the faster we get rid of Jack, the faster we can develop the young players. So… I can see the viewpoint why we should just take on anyone whose contract is better than Jack’s contract.

by IQofaWarrior on Oct 28, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions

plus....

if the cotnracts we get expire quicker than Jax, there is a lot of motivtion there

by NeifiChicken on Oct 28, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions

That's the main reason why I supported the Eddy Curry suggestion a while back

We could have just sat Eddy Curry at home and develop the young kids.

by IQofaWarrior on Oct 28, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions

the faster we get rid of Jack, the faster we can develop the young players

I don’t get that at all. Why can we develop the young players fast without Jack? If the young players are worth developing, we can just as easily sit Jack on the bench and play them instead.,

by Missing Barry on Oct 28, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions

Nellie wont do that is one reason that's true

by 123707THIZZ on Oct 28, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions

Unless the Dubs can get Ty Lawson, DeJuan Blair, or Julian Wright

Trade him for expiring contracts and give the minutes to the pups.

by dprodigy19 on Oct 28, 2009 3:17 PM PDT reply actions

I'm told Cleveland, Denver, San Antonio, New Orleans and the Los Angeles Clippers are all interested in Jackson.

That would be cool to re-unite Jax with Boom then when griffin gets well they could be we believe continued?

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 28, 2009 3:27 PM PDT reply actions

I’m sure you’d love that.

Wait, didn’t you just justify your constant deriding of Stephen Curry by whining about how much you couldn’t stand playing rookies?

I guess that only applies to Warriors’ rookies.

Sigh. Silly me, expecting logic or consistency from a half-coherent troll.

Meantime, the We Believe Team is pretty much garbage right now (I mean, except for Blake Griffin ;-P …) Did you see TMNT’s line from last night? 5-14 fg, 0 rebounds and 0 assists in 29 minutes. That’s hard to do. Made Gallinari look like LeBron…

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by Sleepy Freud on Oct 29, 2009 4:46 AM PDT up reply actions

I guess that only applies to Warriors’ rookies.

Playin power forward takes less experience than point, Griffin’s got the strength to pull it off ( if his body don’t make him WoundedKnee) Didn’t know TMNT was on the Clips.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 29, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions

Playin power forward takes less experience than point

Oh yeah. Somehow that l’il qualification must have slipped your mind when you were ranting incoherently about how crazy the Warriors were for expecting anything good from an unproven rookie. ;-P

Seriously, man: stop acting like a doofus and insulting the intelligence of everyone here, including yourself?

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by Sleepy Freud on Oct 29, 2009 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions

Somehow that l’il qualification must have slipped your mind when you were ranting incoherently about how crazy the Warriors were for expecting anything good from an unproven rookie.

I think history is on my side? How many small players like Curr-bury have played winning ball as NBA rookies? Griffin has the athleticism and the easier position to play at a higher level with less experience. Just cause you don’t like physics don’t deny it exists.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 29, 2009 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions

Sigh. How about trying to stay on topic, instead of behaving like a troll with ADD?

You said very clearly and repeatedly that Curry shouldn’t be starting because he’s an unproven rookie (I could find the exact quote(s), but I’m pretty sure you’ll agree this was the substance of your original argument). You didn’t originally specify anything about position or body type. It wasn’t until later, when you were schooled and called out for your unseemly drooling over a rival team’s rookie, that you totally moved the goalposts.
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And now you have the chutzpah to babble about how “history is on your side”? Totally lame. Not that I expect you ever to get this through your impenetrable cranium but: there really is no “your side” when you start in on your trollish, passive aggressive shenanigans. There’s trying to have a coherent discussion based on logic, reason and fairness, and there’s … what you do.

But OK … because you seem somehow to enjoy being schooled, here are the last four NBA rookies of the year:

Rose
Durant
Roy
Paul

Not a “big” player in the bunch; all of them more finesse than force; and three of them (all except Roy) less experienced than Stephen Curry.

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by Sleepy Freud on Oct 29, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions

Fun smoke, but is there fire here?

I don’t know the particulars of any supposed offers, but I’m told Cleveland, Denver, San Antonio, New Orleans and the Los Angeles Clippers are all interested in Jackson.

The four most likely suitors, plus the Clips. This is pretty danged vague rumor-mongering. Broussard has decent sources, I guess, so let’s take a gander.

Golden State wants Zydrunas Ilgauskas from Cleveland, but the Cavs aren’t willing to give him up because they need him to back up Shaq.

Indeed. We’d definitely need to send Turiaf along with Jack, and I doubt the front office is looking to do that anytime soon… plus it’s not even clear that that’d be enough for Cleveland.

The Warriors would like Manu Ginobili from the Spurs, but I can’t see the Spurs parting with Manu.

Um, YEAH. Me neither. But good try, G-State! I don’t think anything’s gonna happen with the Spurs.

I’m told the Warriors’ discussions with Denver were brief because Jackson’s $7.65 million salary doesn’t fit under their $7.4 million trade exception.

Which would mean that this interested team is… not interested. Okay then.

Nothing about specific pieces discussed with the Hornets or Clips, possibly because there haven’t been any. You’ve got to assume that the Hornets would be looking to dump Peja, if they indeed had interest. If the Clips indeed have interest, I imagine they’d be looking to move either Kaman or Camby, presumably the latter. That’d be fantastic for us, and it would make at least some sense on their side… Jack would be an upgrade on Thornton, and DeAndre Jordan seems like he could take Camby’s minutes pretty capably. Baron/Gordon/Jack/Griffin/Kaman? Sure, I guess, although they’ll still need Baron to find the hoop again.

Really, though, it’s hard to take much from this. Less sizzle, more steak, plz.

by onlxn on Oct 28, 2009 3:36 PM PDT reply actions

DeAndre Jordan!!!!!

Trade Jackson to the Clippers and make sure we get a package with DeAndre Jordan in return! That kid is a beast and would thrive in Nellie’s system. A super athletic young big man with size that could back up Biedrins and let Turiaf play some PF at times. I know he’s young and inexperienced but this could be like when the Lakers drafted a young Andrew Bynum (size and length like that is hard to come by, get someone like that for cheap when you have the opportunity and groom him to become good).

At this point, I don’t think DeAndre can thrive well in a structured system. Being in a wild offense like Golden State’s can help loosen him up and develop him faster and better than if he were in a strict offense. Obviously he wouldn’t be the main part of a package from the Clippers, which would make it easier to get him (unless the Clippers value him as much as I do).

The guy already stated why the Cavs, Spurs and Nuggets might not go through with a trade, so out of all these team mentioned the Hornets and Clippers might be the only ones left.

Jackson would be perfect for the Clippers, as they need someone with fire to team up with Baron to help put a spark on a team. Like Baron said at the end of last season, it was hard for Baron to play in LAC because everyone there is so quiet, compared to the Warriors where it was so easy because of emotional guys like Harrington and Jackson.

If Jackson went to the Clippers, Baron would have that guy who he can feel “alive” with. It would add some needed intensity to the Clippers and result in the whole team stepping up, due to these two veteran leaders.

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by Precise Films Productions on Oct 28, 2009 3:41 PM PDT reply actions

ya

i’d love to have him but I don’t see why the Clips would give him up, and also I don’t see us giving Jack to a close division rival.

by bayareaballa on Oct 28, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions

yeah I know

That’s the problem. Maybe if the Clippers wanted Jackson really bad, they would give up DeAndre since they already have Blake Griffin, Chris Kaman, Craig Smith and Marcus Camby. DeAndre would be a price they pay in order to get a starting SF in Jackson. Then they get to have Al Thornton come off the bench, which would be great for them as they’ll have more depth on their squad.

I don’t see us giving Jack to a division rival either. You never know with the Warriors, though. =/

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by Precise Films Productions on Oct 28, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions

I don’t see us giving Jack to a close division rival.

Saddling a division rival with an 30-year-old, overpaid, not-that-great malcontent? Not that he wouldn’t help them a bit, but this wouldn’t exactly be the Pau Gasol trade.

by onlxn on Oct 28, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions

Salary Issues

Who else do we want from the Clippers.
DeAndre’s salary for this year is only $736,420.
We need to find another $7 million dollars in salary from the Clippers….
Do they have a trade exception they can give us?

by HireMeAsGM on Oct 29, 2009 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions

To continue....

Imagine Stephen Curry playing alongside DeAndre Jordan, we’d see a ton of these plays every game!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plPcHu7lUA0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QCj2jshPrE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL5aXRa9Ivw

I know what you’re thinking, “You only like him because he’s athletic and does great dunks, it’s been proven in the NBA that athleticism doesn’t make you a great player.”

It’s not just his athleticism that I like, but his size. He’s a good “beef” guy and stands at 7 feet tall. He could develop into a good rebounder for his and is athletic enough to add to our run and gun offense. If we can get him as some type of filler in a trade, then it would be worth it even if he doesn’t pan out for us. Might as well go for it if we can get him for cheap.

Sounds too good to be true since a trade with the Clippers might be too complicated and not work out. Also, LAC looks like a team we might be competing against for a Playoff spot this season. Trading Jackson to them would only make them better.

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by Precise Films Productions on Oct 28, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions

I could see a deal being agreed upon, then Rowell would veto it because he doesn’t want to look like a idiot for signing Jack in the first place.

by SuperStarAR on Oct 28, 2009 4:36 PM PDT reply actions

haha

Yeah, some people won’t admit their mistakes.

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by Precise Films Productions on Oct 28, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions

Who else from Cleveland could we take?

I think Jackson would be a good fit right now for them, but who realistically could we get back that might add something, but is real easy on the contract front?

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by BritWarriorGSW on Oct 29, 2009 6:43 AM PDT reply actions

Someone tossed out the idea of a Delonte West/Jamario Moon combo, which would mean adding a medium-sized three-year deal and a smallish two-year deal. It’d make our oversupply of swingmen even more comical, and there are the obvious issues with West, but it’d be a clear win on talent and lower our future obligations by a good bit. It’d be worthwhile, if the Cavs were willing to punt on those guys.

by onlxn on Oct 29, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions

I think this could work for both teams:

http://www.goldenstateofmind.com/2009/10/29/1106953/ultimate-jack-trade-proposal

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by LostHawkGSW on Oct 29, 2009 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions

I want to see...

The Clippers deal Jack for Camby because I believe that he has a fat expiring deal and can baack up the 4 and 5 and was a former defensive player of the year

by shay_boggy on Oct 29, 2009 8:22 AM PDT reply actions

That would be an absolute robbery by us. Camby’s still a very, very, very good player, and his arrival would allow Ronny to back up Randolph at the four (still not loving seeing Maggette there, by the way), not to mention we’d get expiring money out of it.

I doubt we could pull it off. But Dunleavy is a bit of a bonehead, solid summer notwithstanding, so who knows.

by onlxn on Oct 29, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions

Charlotte also is interested

Diaw or Wallace would be great, what could we get from New Orleans? Would they let us have Posey?

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by dubzfan on Oct 29, 2009 11:42 AM PDT reply actions

They’d probably wanna get rid of Peja since he’s basically a non factor with 2 years left at around 16mil. I’d rather have 32 mil/2 yrs of Peja riding the bench than 36mil/4 yrs of Jackson ball hogging and ref complaining

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by JustSomeName on Oct 29, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions

I agree, the Peja deal would be great for both teams.

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by LostHawkGSW on Oct 29, 2009 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions

Me too… my worry is that Peja might not be riding the bench. I’d rather not tempt Nellie with a big shooter like him.

by onlxn on Oct 29, 2009 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions

He could mentor Morrow. I’d be a’right with that.

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by Naticus2 on Nov 1, 2009 9:44 PM PST up reply actions

Not only mentor, but train the team to pass to him by putting a similar type of talent on the floor. He could also be used with Morrow and Azu in sets that involved three outside shooting threats, a PG, and Biedrins. Curry as PG could have a field day in that lineup (offensively), either kicking to one of those three, running a pick-n-roll with Biedrins, or getting his own shot. Monta, in such a set, probably also has a field day taking his man to the hole, running the pick-n-roll, or getting sweet mid-range shots – as long as he establishes the idea that he will pass to his shooters first.

Peja has his limitations as a player, but he has his strengths as well. He could be a useful piece for this Warriors team in a way that Jack does not appear to be anymore.

by toddaverth on Nov 2, 2009 5:30 AM PST up reply actions