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Stephen Curry - Let There Be Hope :: 2009-2010 Golden State Warriors Player Recap and Previews

And now we come to the new kid on the block. One thing we have to give this Warriors organization is their ability to pick up raw talent and allow it to blossom (before trading it away). Unfortunately, our current batch of raw talent hasn't yet learned to play cohesively enough together to form any kind of consistency, but it's tough to argue that players like Ellis, Biedrins, and Randolph haven't had the room to discover themselves.

As I was talking with Atma the other day, I shared a concern I've had with Nellie in recent years. What if Nellie sees a potential successful season in front of him without letting Curry stretch his wings? Atma brought up some solid points in this realm. Historically, if Nellie hasn't let a rookie or new addition to the roster breathe (POB, Diogu), they haven't really moved on elsewhere in the league to excel. If the talent is there, Nellie has and will let them cultivate their skill on the Arena floor.

That being said, we're going to be seeing a lot of Curry at the Arena this year.

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Wrong Curry. But equally as exciting!

 

Make the jump and let's check out some of the reasons why this kid might change the course of this already tumultuous season.

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Okay. Before we begin, I would be remiss to not mention that if you have any percentage of South Asian blood in you, or if you just happen to like Indian food, go out and buy a Curry jersey. Long after this kid starts to average 25 ppg and goes to another team for $20 more because Rowell refuses to match the offer, a jersey that says "Curry" on the back will bring you endless joy. Also, discounts among Indian restaurants across the greater Bay Area. It's really the gift that keeps on giving.

Now - if you got excited by that, check this out:

Stephen Curry Mix (HQ) (via pennixballer92)

Sick.

No doubt. It's always tough to focus on a college phenom and predict his success in the bigs, but so far all signs point to yes. According to Marcus Thompson at the San Jose Mercury:

It's too early, by most accounts, to give him a thorough analysis. But rookie guard Stephen Curry has members of the Warriors organization feeling good about his development.

"He's holding his own very nicely," coach Don Nelson said Wednesday.

 

Let's look at reality though. Despite Monta being out of line with his claims that he can't play with Curry in the backcourt, having the two of these guys together really can lead to us getting bumped and bruised around. What happens when the Warriors are put into this position? Historically, three point shot after shot after shot. Morrow aside, we haven't proved to be a team good enough to rest our game on the long bomb.

Curry's real value as a point is going to be getting the rock to our ever growing big guys. I predict that Biedrins, Randolph, Turiaf, and now, Mikki Moore will eventually come to enjoy a player of this nature who can has the ability to develop his passing as well as the rest of his game.

Not that anyone in the Warriors organization is going to mind if he takes a shot or two.

Despite the rough introduction to the NBA, Curry doesn't seem to be losing confidence. He's usually running the point when he's in the game, and the Warriors have encouraged him to continue being aggressive looking for his shot, and he's followed orders.

But at the end of the day, year 1 in this league is exactly what it is. Year 1. Right now our very own organization isn't even sure how they want to use his talents, which will make it extremely tough to cultivate his game in any sort of focused direction. Perhaps this kind of breathing room is needed, however. Am I expecting big things out of this kid? Yes. I am. Am I expecting it in the first 30 games of the year? No. But it sure would be nice!

Will this be the year of Curry? DISCUSS!

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Based on various comments of people who attended Game 1

Curry has to play minutes, even if off the bench, so that he can find people and get them to score. Also, he’s got some quick hands for deflections and steals. Also, Curry himself seems to have an understanding of what kind of defender he can be.

I’m trying to be everywhere pretty much on defense. A lock down defender? They might not call me that. But I’ll be a great help defender.

Now, with all this attention on Curry, will Monta get jealous? Or will Monta make it as the team’s primary point guard? I really hope Monta does make it, because having Curry coming off the bench with scorers like Morrow and Maggette must make our bench look offensively scarier to the opponents’ eyes.

by IQofaWarrior on Oct 5, 2009 4:51 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

omg IQ, do you ever go to sleep? haha

Monta is already kind of jealous…it’s human nature. You got to admit, most people are watching or listening on the radio to see what Curry can bring to the Warriors. Now Monta’s just got to step up and not follow in Jackson’s footsteps by demanding to get out.

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by girltothemax on Oct 5, 2009 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know about jealous.

But someone mentioned that Monta just wants respect. Why should he have to accomodate a rookie, He didn’t get that kind of cred coming in with Baron or Fish.

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Jackson on wanting to be on a winner: "I’m made for the playoffs and the championships. I’m Big Shot Jack. That’s what I do."

Jackson on wanting out after extension: "Who’s going to turn down that money? I didn’t go to college, but I’ve got a lot of common sense."

by kenntoe on Oct 5, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think Monta's jealous

He just wants Curry to prove himself before he believes all the hype.

Everyone’s already ready to have Curry as our new point guard. At least let him play one NBA game before labeling him as our savior. I’m pretty sure Monta would LOVE to have more great players on the team, I don’t think there’s any jealousy if a player is helping to win games. The thing is, people are already praising Curry when Monta has NBA experience and Curry hasn’t played a single NBA game yet.

That’s why Monta thinks the two of them starting in the backcourt wouldn’t work out. Curry needs some experience first in order to get better, and at least prove himself on the court. Also, those two would get eaten alive on defense. I don’t think there’s any NBA coaches out there besides Nellie that thinks a Monta/Curry backcourt could succeed.

If Curry PROVES HIMSELF on the court, then Monta will respect him and have love for him. But right now, Monta’s like “WTF, this kid hasn’t even played a game yet and all of a sudden he has the right to start with me? We’re gonna get killed on defense”.

He said that he feels that way because when he first came to the Warriors, Baron and Fisher never gave him respect as fellow point guards; Monta had to earn his playing time and then he finally got credit for how good he is.

by Precise Films Productions on Oct 5, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope you’re right.

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by bloodsweatndonuts on Oct 5, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's wrong with starting a rookie anyway?

Why is that such a big problem?

I really don’t mind seeing Curry starting with Monta, if we’re going see what level he’s in, might as well see it now than later. And plus, if Nellie thinks Curry who IS a rookie is good enough to start, who are you to complain? I mean people already dislike him for not playing rookies…why complain now when he is going to start a rookie?

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by girltothemax on Oct 5, 2009 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't have a problem with Curry

I’m just trying to see it from Monta’s point of view. Monta probably doesn’t know how good Curry really is.

I’m assuming Monta just wants to win games, and feels it’s better for Curry to come off the bench unless he’s good enough to start. But in order to prove he’s good enough to start, he has to earn it first.

http://nba.fanhouse.com/2009/10/05/ellis-on-stephen-curry-hes-better-than-i-thought-he-was/

Ellis is already starting to like Curry. It’s all love. He just wanted to see Curry play a game before he starts to praise him. (I hope i’m right about Monta).

by Precise Films Productions on Oct 5, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe I’m reading too much into this, but I wouldn’t expect them to be BFFs any time soon.

 Yes you are reading too much into it. Everyone was ga-ga over Marco after the preseason and look how that worked out? Montay is a proven commodity and Curr-bury is just speculation at this point so the only story is the normal media hype trying to justify their pay checks till they have some real news to report.

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At this crescent in the sky

by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 5, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Yes you are reading too much into it.

You know as little as I do about the situation so there is no way you can say that I’m wrong any more than I can say you are.

They also realized that Marco was a project once they got him in training camp and changed their tune. This time, they keep heaping more praise on they guy as time passes. This guy came into the league with lots of hype and praise by respected coaches like D’Antoni, Nelson and even Bob Knight and this old white guy gang man-crush on Curry just keeps picking up steam. It’s a totally different situation than Marco’s. You wouldn’t be at least annoyed if you were Monta?

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by bloodsweatndonuts on Oct 5, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's putting a lot of words in Monta's mouth.

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Jackson on wanting to be on a winner: "I’m made for the playoffs and the championships. I’m Big Shot Jack. That’s what I do."

Jackson on wanting out after extension: "Who’s going to turn down that money? I didn’t go to college, but I’ve got a lot of common sense."

by kenntoe on Oct 5, 2009 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: That's putting a lot of words in Monta's mouth.

I didn’t put a single word in his mouth.

I contrasted their situations and said:

He certainly has reasons to resent the kid.

and

There’s a lot to resent. Curry had all of the advantages growing up and is coming in and getting talked about in glowing terms. The coaches love him, the fans love him and the media loves him. All Monta’s ever had was his skill and his work ethic and he probably feels like he’s earned everything he’s attained. Conversely, it likely has always been laid out there for Curry if he wanted to pursue it.

Maybe I’m reading too much into this, but I wouldn’t expect them to be BFFs any time soon.

I was pretty clear that this was my opinion and not Monta’s. I was laying out reasons why he could reasonably resent the guy, I never said he did.

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by bloodsweatndonuts on Oct 5, 2009 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: That's putting a lot of words in Monta's mouth.

Perhaps you should be replying to Precise Films Productions:

I don’t think Monta’s jealous
He just wants Curry to prove himself before he believes all the hype.

and

If Curry PROVES HIMSELF on the court, then Monta will respect him and have love for him. But right now, Monta’s like "WTF, this kid hasn’t even played a game yet and all of a sudden he has the right to start with me? We’re gonna get killed on defense".

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by bloodsweatndonuts on Oct 5, 2009 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

Those are just my assumptions. It wasn’t my intention to say all that as if it’s facts. I’m just trying to look at the situation from Monta’s point of view instead of making him out to be the bad guy.

by Precise Films Productions on Oct 5, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know. I know.

I was just saying if kenntoe want’s to take issue wording a post in such a way that sounds like someone is assuming what Monta is thinking, at least pick on the right guy.

I know where you were coming from. I responded first with “hey, I didn’t put words in his mouth, in fact I was very clear about it”. Then I re-read how you worded your post and was like “Hey! Double no fair”!

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by bloodsweatndonuts on Oct 5, 2009 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

yeah i know. accusing of of something you didn’t do haha.

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by Precise Films Productions on Oct 5, 2009 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yup

Baron Davis and Derek Fisher didn’t give him special treatment when he was a rookie, but it was different since Monta was a second round pick. There wasn’t really any “franchise changing” material expected out of him.

I don’t know why people want Monta to get traded. The kid is a future all-star and is a beast on the court. The only “problem” is that he doesn’t think a Curry/Monta backcourt could be successful; I can’t blame him, since two skinny 6’3" guys in the backcourt would get killed on defense.

Once Monta sees that Curry is a great player, then he’ll like him and wouldn’t mind playing with him. It’ll be good as long as they win games. He’s never ever called teamates out before, that’s not how Monta is; he was just simply being realistic about what he thinks about a having a small backcourt.

by Precise Films Productions on Oct 5, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would be fine keeping Monta, if we had a big 1 to complement him. I like him. He’s just tough to use effectively due to his slight stature. He can’t defend 2’s, but offensively, he’s a 2. He’s good on the right team. If we can, we ought to move Monta to a team with a big 1 and get a big 2 in return. Well, that’s assuming that Curry proves he can start at the 1 for us. I have little doubt left that he can. I say, trade Monta some time in the next 3 years for a 2 that plays defense.

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by Naticus2 on Oct 5, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"He can't defend 2's".

I think you meant to say “He can’t defend.”

by b.radley on Oct 5, 2009 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"I think you meant to say "He can’t defend.""

I think you meant to say “He chooses not to defend”.

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by bloodsweatndonuts on Oct 5, 2009 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let Monta get one season to prove if he can lead a team

If he shows he can’t succeed as a point guard, then we might have to trade him later on in the future. Or just keep him, I don’t know.

by Precise Films Productions on Oct 5, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we can, we ought to move Monta to a team with a big 1 and get a big 2 in return.

 Why not move Curr-bury and get a big point guard instead? We already know that Montay is a great scorer and we know nothing but speculation about Curry? Montay seems to have the odds on his side, how many players are as good as Montay by year 3?

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 5, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stacked

Our team is stacked! Our 2nd unit is a legitimate starting squad. (see Bucks)
We can be a very scary team to play in the playoffs muwahha I can dream… And we all know Depth matters in the playoffs.
Curry
Morrow
Maggette
Turiaf
Moore

vs
Jennings
Michael Redd
Hakim Warrick
Kurt Thomas
Andrew Bogut

by bojangles408 on Oct 5, 2009 7:50 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

We are deep. Too bad Wright went down. The way they say he was playing, he was Randolph’s equal.

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by Naticus2 on Oct 5, 2009 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Depth may matter in the playoffs. The quality of the starters matters much, much more, both in the playoffs and the regular season.

by jae on Oct 5, 2009 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

For trade purposes, it’s rather nice to be deep prior to the trade deadline, though.

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by Naticus2 on Oct 5, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Depth matters more in the regular season than in the playoffs

The shorter “playoff season” allows teams to shorten their rotations to the top guys and still compete on a nightly basis. Starters are always more important.

bojangles, That second unit is way worse than the Bucks. Morrow is no Redd and Moore is not remotely as good as Bogut.

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by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 6, 2009 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Our 2nd unit is a legitimate starting squad.

  That is not what we want to see :>) When the second unit appears good that means the first unit is not much better than a second unit.

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Where talk is cheap and vision true
Standing on the moon
But I would rather be with you
Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky

by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 5, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

or

or maybe it means our second unit is just as good as our first unit when it comes to scoring and shooting.

by Precise Films Productions on Oct 5, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

or maybe it means our second unit is just as good as our first unit when it comes to scoring and shooting.

 Haha, that’s the same thing in different words. The first team hasta be way better than the second team to be very good. It’s like the ocean versus a lake, they are both wet but If you want big peaks you gotta have big troughs.

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Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky

by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 5, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s like the ocean versus a lake, they are both wet but If you want big peaks you gotta have big troughs.

See, this analogy is wrong for the same reason you are wrong. Think of it this way, the valley floor in Denver, CO is still at a substantially higher elevation than most of California. The peaks and valleys in Colorado are both, generally higher, even though Mt. Whitney (in the southern Sierras) is the tallest mountain in the lower 48 states.

Similarly, the Warriors backup unit can bet better than some or all of the starting units in the league except their own and still be considered the Warriors backup unit. The backups here are good; not as good as they would have been if Wright’s shoulder didn’t fall apart again, but good. They might just be better than Milwaukee’s starting 5, which isn’t really saying much.

by toddaverth on Oct 5, 2009 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

this analogy is wrong for the same reason you are wrong.

  I’m talking about waves not mountains, this is Cali you know?

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Standing on the moon
But I would rather be with you
Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky

by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 5, 2009 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Our starters are good

They just never really had the chance to prove they are great. We’ll see this season how things pan out.

by bojangles408 on Oct 5, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

80 plus playoffs schedule games

will wear this small team out, especially playing Nellies up and down court small ball. hopefully we can with stand the long season. With maggette and jackson usually good for half the season we are not really that deep when you look it that way when you dont factor the usual malingering from the players.

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by gogomaplata on Oct 5, 2009 10:09 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

that's why Nellie should play the bench players more

Give Anthony Morrow and Brandan Wright more playing time. It would have helped if we still had Marco Belinelli, too. That’s some extra firepower and playmaking right there.

by Precise Films Productions on Oct 5, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol...

Brandan Wrights not going to get too many minutes I don’t think.

by 123707THIZZ on Oct 5, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think that a pure point guard finds a way onto the floor this year, and Curry looks to be the most apt pupil Nelson has had in this stint with the Warriors. With CJ hurt, and Law being Law, I think Curry becomes a de facto participant, and as with Morrow last year, when a guard makes something happen with his service time, Nelson plays him.

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by DanRed on Oct 5, 2009 11:15 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

As strange as it sounds, the biggest help Curry could give us might be on the defensive end.

Wright’s injury pretty much clinches that we’ll be seeing a fair amount of smallball when Randolph’s sitting. Smallball was not kind to us last year, partly because Maggette couldn’t annoy fours the way Matt Barnes used to, but largely because we didn’t have the defensive backcourt to make it work. Smallball has only worked for us in the past when we’ve forced a lot of steals… if you’re gonna get outrebounded and pounded down low, you’re going to need to pick off a lot of passes in the backcourt to make up for that. From ‘06-’08, Baron and Monta were more or less up to the challenge; last year, Jamal and CJ were, to put it mildly, not.

If Monta is healthy and somewhat committed to defense, that’ll help a lot. But if Curry can indeed pick off a lot of passes himself — I have no idea if he can — that’ll be huge. Sure, we’ll still get creamed by bigger two-guards now and again, but that happened a fair amount when we won 48 games, too. If both Monta and Curry can rack up the steals in the backcourt, smallball will have a much better chance of working.

by onlxn on Oct 5, 2009 11:25 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If other coaches know how to create mismatches

Monta and Curry will consistently get posted up on defense by bigger point guards and it’ll ruin our defense.

Look at what Nellie did to make Steve Nash irrelevant back when we had Baron and J-Rich:

-Steve Nash was too small to guard Baron, so D’antoni put

by Precise Films Productions on Oct 5, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

woah wtf

I didn’t even finish typing up my post but it posted anyways.

by Precise Films Productions on Oct 5, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What Nellie did to make Steve Nash irrelevant back when we had Baron and J-Rich:

Like I was saying:

- Steve Nash was too small to guard Baron, so D’antoni made Raja Bell guard Baron.

- This meant that Steve Nash had to guard one of Golden State’s shooting guards.

- Every time Raja Bell guarded Baron, Nellie forced the team to keep giving the ball down low to one of our bigger shooting guards to post up Steve Nash.

- Jason Richardson and Kelenna Azubuike were the ones to post up Nash.

- Nash couldn’t guard any of them, so the Suns had to send an extra defender to help Nash double team.

- This resulted in an open Warrior somewhere ready to shoot.

- If the Suns decided not to send another defender to help Nash, then J-Rich or Azubuike would simply continue to post up Nash and shoot over him.

- Also, if Nash had to guard Monta he still got owned. Even though Monta wasn’t strong enough to post up Nash, Monta was still quicker than him. He scored 17 consecutive points in a quarter with Nash guarding him.

So basically it was a pick your poison. A Monta/Curry backcourt might see strategies like that against them when they play defense on other teams. Hopefully they end up being able to circumvent that problem.

by Precise Films Productions on Oct 5, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree — that’d be the right way to attack a Monta/Curry backcourt, much as it was the right way to attack a Baron/Monta backcourt. I’m far from sold on the idea that Monta and Curry should play big minutes alongside one another. But if both guys create some havoc in the backcourt, whether or not they’re on the court together, it’ll help us a lot.

by onlxn on Oct 5, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Steve Nash can't guard anyone

I see the comparison but don’t like it. Curry should be 10 times the defender Nash is and even Monta HAS to be better – Nash is worthless on defense.

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by cybermaldonado on Oct 5, 2009 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What cyber said

Plus, not every team has a PG that’s Baron’s size, who’ll be defended acceptably.

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by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 6, 2009 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lots of big guards are bad at posting up. We will just have to have good scouting reports to know when we can and can’t play them together.

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by Naticus2 on Oct 5, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This:
Historically, if Nellie hasn’t let a rookie or new addition to the roster breathe (POB, Diogu), they haven’t really moved on elsewhere in the league to excel. If the talent is there, Nellie has and will let them cultivate their skill on the Arena floor.

After hearing about the preseason game, It’s exciting to see a lot of the positive reviews for Curry. Especially the pimpin’ that Nellie is talking so far. Hopefully we’ll be hearing a lot of “Curry to Morrow for three!!!!!”

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Jackson on wanting out after extension: "Who’s going to turn down that money? I didn’t go to college, but I’ve got a lot of common sense."

by kenntoe on Oct 5, 2009 12:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Curry to Morrow for three!!!!!

Plus Curry to Biedrins/Randolph for the dunk!

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by Naticus2 on Oct 5, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also lets hope we hear "curry hits his shot" a lot too

He helps spread the floor with his range,and once he gets his shot our bigs will benefit.

by mosdl on Oct 5, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Broad, Not Deep

Not to bring it down a notch, but I wouldn’t say we’re that deep.
I like turiaf, morrow and Maggetti, but let’s face it, we have no depth at PF or point guard now that Wright’s and CJ are injured.

Even when CJ’s back, his passing ability is very limited.
But we are broad. We have a lot of average NBA players.

Our big problem is we have very few to no superstars. I would argue that any playoff team needs 2 and we have none as of now.

I hope Randolph and either Monta or Curry will be superstars, but this year’s all about rebuilding and seeing if they can be.

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by Cannonballden on Oct 5, 2009 1:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

We have Curry as a backup PG and Law if he went down. We’re still deep at PG. Curry will probably be a worthy NBA starter in short order.

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by Naticus2 on Oct 5, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So then Curry and Monta?

Our only chance at a winning team is if Curry does in fact turn out to be a starting PG (from what I’ve heard, he has better PG potential than Monta) is to play him with Buke because Kelenna can actually defend. Monta’s defense is pretty darn bad, though not NEARLY as bad as Morrow’s last year.

Think it’s gotta be:

Monta
Kelenna
Jack
Randolph
Dre

Then we need to trade either Monta or Curry (whoever has less SUPERstar potential) to get us more draft picks b/c what this team needs is more chances at the super star.

(just my opinion)

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by Cannonballden on Oct 5, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Monta’s defense is pretty darn bad, though not NEARLY as bad as Morrow’s last year.

Really? Morrow wasn’t a defensive whiz or anything, but I sure thought he was more useful than Monta on that end last year. Monta’s defense was nightmarishly bad — he showed almost no effort whatsoever. Morrow at least competed. There’s nothing in the numbers to suggest that Morrow was as bad as Monta.

I’d expect Monta to be a lot better on that end next year, and I do think ’Buike’s a better defender than Morrow, but Morrow’s defense isn’t a gaping wound. There are a number of worse defenders who are effective overall starters in the NBA.

by onlxn on Oct 5, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

That’s like trying to choose which wart is the ugliest.

The thing about Morrow is that he actually tried and improved. We all saw that Monta could defend as a rookie. He just doesn’t for whatever reason.

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by bloodsweatndonuts on Oct 5, 2009 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Monta was horrendous before the moped

After he came back, I thought he actually used his hands better – a lot more steals.

Morrow definitely tried hard, but guards/forwards just took him to school.

That said, I think he could be a better defender than Monta this year or next (guards always have a hard time defending their first year)

Every reform movement has a lunatic fringe.

by Cannonballden on Oct 5, 2009 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No South Asian blood/heritage, per se

However, I do holdout the possibility of prehistoric Celtic/Indo-Aryan gene flow.

Not to mention the solidarity between populations who resisted British Empirical subjugation. And, anyway, I love Indian food.

I’m high on Curry because I think he has the potential to be a legit point guard. Monta, as explosive as he is, seems more like a small two guard.

ALso, Curry comes across much more upstandinger.

by Jeremy Belvins on Oct 5, 2009 5:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed - assuming Curry does develop into a very good player (i.e. Monta + assists)

I’d like to see them make a trade during the year

StackJack and Monta for

a hard-nosed Vet who can provide leadership and LOTS of rebounding/Defense
+ a draft pick.

probably dreaming though.

What do you guys think?

Every reform movement has a lunatic fringe.

by Cannonballden on Oct 5, 2009 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you talking about

Artest

Win Or Lose Warriors For Life.........

by mykelala01 on Oct 5, 2009 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha. Definitely Not Artest

I’d rather have a disgruntled CapJack.

No, more like Boozer, (didn’t the jazz just sign millsap long term?)

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by Cannonballden on Oct 5, 2009 6:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ok

Coz you said that provide leadership. coz as I can see Williams is more of a leader than Boozer. His kinda a player who just do his thing. And then again I could be wrong. Because if a person has a leadership trait he will stand out. But as I remember Boozer never stand out on USA team during Beijing olympics.

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by mykelala01 on Oct 6, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

but I bet you

If you put Artest on any team even USA team with full of all star he will stand out. Even our capt Jack will stand out. That what leader do they stand out and speak their mind and everyone listen.

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by mykelala01 on Oct 6, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you put Artest or Jack on TeamUSA they would stand out …

… by virtue of being much worse at basketball than any of their teammates.

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Oct 6, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's exactly my point

You dont need be the best player to be a team leader. But yeah of course the team U.S.A gonna get worse. But its easy to find a good player but not a good leader or team leader. So asking to get a good player and also a locker room leader is too much to ask for.

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by mykelala01 on Oct 6, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wrong Curry. But equally as exciting?

   That plate looks nasty, how much fat and sodium in there?

Standing on the moon
Where talk is cheap and vision true
Standing on the moon
But I would rather be with you
Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky

by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 5, 2009 8:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

looks like a commercial version

of “butter chicken”; I would rather look at a chana or bhindi masala, or perhaps a nice Dungeness crab in curry.

by the.monk on Oct 6, 2009 3:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have these visions

Of Stephen Curry and Anthony Morrow raining down threes. In these visions, Randolph and Biedrins are demanding defensive attention inside, Jackson has developed into a smarter player who realizes his jump shot is just not that effective and is distributing as a point-SF, and Monta and Maggette are happy to play 25 minutes per game off the bench for a surprisingly competitive young Warriors squad. And then I wake up.

Don't worry about me Thurgood, I'll be fine. The robbery is what's important now.

by the guy on Oct 6, 2009 1:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Stephen Curry

I think that Stephen Curry should not start at the beginning of the season… Why? Because of defensive reasons. Even though the Warriors mentality is to outscore the opponent, to be a successive team and win tight games, it comes down to defense. I think Kelenna Azubuike should begin the season in the starting backcourt (or with jackson back there and azubuike as the SF). He brings to the floor better defense and rebounding, with a hard nose mentality.

by GSWfan4lyf on Oct 25, 2009 10:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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