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Ok this is a trade that could work and make us better




trade Jackson to the Bobcats with Speedy Claxton and Acie Law for Diaw and Mohammed

Bobcats get the scorer they need in Jackson and they get expiring contracts in Claxton and Law.

They take on Jackson's bad contract, but they get cap space  in Law and Claxton. They sort of trade Jackson's contract for Diops'. This is a good trade for both teams. The Bobcats need scorers and have two many bigs and two little guards. This trade allows them to play at a faster pace while not losing a whole lot of size or rebounding. Radmanovic is a good scorer and an average rebounder, defender, and passer. The fact that he is an average rebounder doesn't really matter because Gerald Wallace and Tyson Chandler are terrific rebounders. Jackson will improve the passing. 

This is a good rotation

pg felton  14 pts per game

sg Jackson 20 pts per game

sf Wallace   17 pts per game

pf Radmanovic   14 points per game

C Chandler   10 points per game

The Bench is ok

Raja Bell

Ronald Murray

DJ Augustin

Derrick Brown

Diop

Derrick Brown 

and Stephen  Graham

This trade would make the warriors actually be competitive and also make them contenders for the eighth seed. This would be the starting lineup after the trade

pg Steph

sg Monta

sf Azubukie        

pf Diaw

c Biedrins 

This lineup can run and gun, without playing small. The Warriors will for the first time this season won't have to start guards and small forwards at the power foward spot. They won't get as killed on the boards either because Diaw could get 7 rebounds a night if he really tryed. 

This is linup that could actually stop teams defensively as long as Monta can limit getting posted up by bigger guards. This lineup is actually average defensively. This team will not get outrebounded as much because Monta can rebound very well for his size, Azubukie is a capable rebounder, Diow is capaple as well, and Biedrins is a fantastic rebounder. Also this lineup is way more versatile. There are a bunch of lineups that can be succesful without giving too much offense or rebounding. Lets look at all the possibilities.

pg Steph

sg Morrow

sf Azubukie

pf Randolph

C Turiaf

This lineup would be fun to watch lots of dunks by Randolph and Azubukie, lots of 3s by Steph, Morrow, and Azubukie, and lots of blocks by Turiaf and Randolph.

pg Monta

sg Azubukie

sf Diaw

pf Turiaf

c Mohammad

This is the biggest lineup the warriors could produce. It would be interesting if the Warriors played big ball. 

 

The Warriors unfortunately can also play super small ball 

pg Steph

sg Ellis

sf Azubukie

pf Maggette

c Diaw

This trade would be a big improvement for GSW. It allows them to remove the biggest distraction on the court and improve their depth and add a pice that would make it so they could have a realistic shot at the playoffs. It also gives them an actual skilled capable and consistent power forward who is not a guard or forward. This helps the Warriors so much. His size, defense, and average rebounding ability help the GSW in a myriad of ways.

Lets look at what he brings to the table:

Size

Defense

average rebounding

ability to score consistently while not attempting stupid shots, high percentage shots.

passing skills.

4 out of five of those characteristics are characteristics that the Warriors lack and desperately need. The lackof those five characteristics constantly kill the Warriors and cause them to lose to teams that most teams would crush.

Diaw is a very unselfish player the Warriors trade away one of their selfish players for a unselfish player. He is not just unselfish, but also a great passer. He gives the warriors 3 passers that can easily dish 4 or more assists a game. That really helps them a lot and really helps ball movement.

His size would also help the warriors greatly. I  know all of us here would rather have Diaw playing the 3 than Corey Maggette, Stack, or Azubukie, oh or Mikki Moore. We will have for the first time a true power forward. A power forward that can post up, and not get pushed around. Also he is 6'8 he will either be average height or a couple inches shorter than his opponent, but again a huge upgrade from our other options. Nelson would be stupid to play guards, forwards, and Mikki Moore when he could play Diaw Randolph or Turiaf at the 3. If this trade were to happen Corey's minutes would decrease and we would all like that.

Also his average rebounding makes us so much better. Even if he only gets six boards a night it won't matter because Randoloh and Biedrins are great rebounders and Turiaf is a capable rebounder as well. Biedrins will get at least 10 boards a night, so six boards a night won't matter because Biedrins and their other center options are good rebounders. Just the fact that he can rebound and isn't a bad rebounder is great. He getting 6 boards a night is fine because he will get help from Azubukie as well who can get 5-6 boards a night. He would actually make us an average rebounding team

The last characteristic that would really help the Warriors is his defense. Diaw isn't a defensive stopper but he won't easily get posted or get blown by other forwards like Maggette, Moore, or any other undersized options would. The Warriors would no longer get annihlated by power forwards because they have a guy who can guard them and who won't get easily posted up like the other weak options aat power forward have.

Mohammad also helps the Warriors a lot too. Nazr is a great rebounder and defender. The Warriors also wouldn't have to start Moore because of injuries if they had Mohammad. I think we all agree that Mohammad is a huge upgrade compared to Moore. He helps our poor depth down low. He and Diaw actually give us good deptha and options downlow. So we won't have to settle with playing bad players. Nazr also won't get pushed around because he is 7'ft and weighs 250, not 220 like Mikki Moore. Nazr can stop teams from getting extra possessions and even get us extra possessions because of his great rebounding. 

Just look at all our depth

Steph CJ Monta

Monta Morrow Steph

Azubukie Maggette Diaw

Diaw Randolph Turiaf

Biedrins Mohammad Turiaf Moore

That gives the Warriors a good mix of scorers( Monta Morrow Azubukie Maggette,) passers(Monta Steph Diaw)

Defenders( Azubukie Biedrins Turiaf Mohammad Randolph) and rebounders(Randolph, Biedrins Mohammad Azubukie).

If they don't accept I think we would have to maybe throw in Wright because we are never going to move forward until we move Jackson. I think we need to do whatever possible because this is an issue.

Poll
Would you do this trade
Yes in a heart beat
111 votes
nope
22 votes
its not possible
18 votes

151 votes | Poll has closed

This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!

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I love this trade.

I know it’s becoming cliche to say that we need another big man, but this trade does that and more. It balances out our roster, improves our rebounding, improves our passing, and get’s rid of one this team’s cancers. I also think that when Wright is healthy we can pull off another trade, which could package many players and get one legitimate star. Plus I would love if we’d ever play big ball, the thought of out rebounding our opponents seems like a fantasy that will never happen.

by warriorsnut on Nov 13, 2009 12:11 AM PST reply actions  

jackson will not go to the bobcats. if a trade like this was announced he would say “f that”.

in addition, no team is stupid enough to try and aquire him if they aren’t a contender.

it's just a game.
www.bayareascores.com

by Slicker on Nov 13, 2009 2:35 AM PST reply actions  

+1

No non-contender will take Jack because he’ll be a cancer there too.

by samuraaaaiiiiiii on Nov 13, 2009 3:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Jack doesn’t have a choice. The rumor is the Bobcats have inquired about Jack, as well.

by Missing Barry on Nov 13, 2009 7:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Didnt someone suggest this very trade...minus Mohammed

Just the other day?

I cant remember who, but someone has been stating we should trade for Diaw for a while now…

GSOM Blog Beast!

by BritWarriorGSW on Nov 13, 2009 4:25 AM PST reply actions  

Yeah, this is the exact trade rumor that was mentioned by ESPN when they wrote an article detailing the Bobcats interest in Jackson for Nazr or Radmanovic – saying the Warriors wanted Diaw and that perhaps the W’s could take one of the other 2 off the Bobcats hand for Claxton. Forget if it was Stein or Broussard.

That article was linked on the main page here on the site along with a poll of whether GSoMers were in favor of the trade.

by the evil monkey on Nov 13, 2009 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Jackson has what you might call an “informal” trade-approval clause. It’s called “I will go into the stands and fire my gun in public” if this trade goes down. It is highly respected around the Association.

Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!

by Supafishal on Nov 13, 2009 8:16 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

HAHAHAHAH

good laugh for friday @ work

by bojangles408 on Nov 13, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

the bobcats want jackson cause he'll improve there passing (something larry brown has identified)

but he doesnt wanna give up diaw for same reason… he’s there best passer.

i’d love him here though…. he is such a nellie ball player. We could play him at 3, maggette at 4…. diaw at3, randolph at 4. We have enough shoot first ball dominant guys. A passive player like diaw who does everything (aside from rebound) well is what we need.

although again i see no gain for them. I love the wallace-diaw dynamic. No real PF but very complimentary and athletic

by tafkasam on Nov 13, 2009 10:11 AM PST reply actions  

Lets do Biedrins 4 Gasol + Jaric too!

boom…

ellis
morrow
diaw
randolph
gasol

with 14 mil in expirings next year…. mohammad + Jaric. someones gonna be unhappy and wanna dump by deadline

by tafkasam on Nov 13, 2009 10:18 AM PST reply actions  

I still remember 2005-6 Diaw... god he was amazing

13.3ppg…. 6.2 apg/2.3 TOpg… 6.9 rpg, 52.6 FG%

i suppose steve nash, shawn marion and amare help though

by tafkasam on Nov 13, 2009 10:27 AM PST reply actions  

edit: LOL

amare was out that whole year… forgot!

by tafkasam on Nov 13, 2009 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I think it would be a good trade

But I doubt that the Bobcats would do that in its current form. Besides that, I kind of like Law and would rather trade Watson (though I’m not sure if he is considered a BYC player since he just signed even though he signed the 1 year qualifying offer.) The reason I would rather have Law than Watson is Law seems to play better defense and have much better court vision. Watson can score, but everything else he does leaves something to be desired.

by Pearlsofwisdom on Nov 13, 2009 10:40 AM PST reply actions  

Love it

But Bobcats fans frustrated with him may be a red flag…

Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "You're a rookie"

by dubzfan on Nov 13, 2009 11:52 AM PST reply actions  

we aren't gonna get anything perfect for jack

Diaw very unselfish. In a team like Charlotte with only 1 real scorer its frustrating for fans cause he pases up alot of shots. Gerald Wallace is only guy who can score consistantly…..

In golden state its welcome…. he could compliment monta and maggette cause he is a great passer and unselfish. He is what nellie wants jack to be… He is an ideal point forward behind the obvious all stars

by tafkasam on Nov 13, 2009 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Not the same deal but would dealing with Atlanta work?

Are Marvin Williams and S-Jax a match or do things get messy because Williams has a Base Year Compensation deal? If Williams BYC contract structure doesn’t mess things up, I think this would be a great deal for both teams. Williams is really struggling to fit into the rotation in Atlanta right now, but has otherwise in his young career shown flashes of being a rotation player with potential to aim even higher given his talent. In addition, I would love to get Marvin back for Jax because Marvin would give us more size and rebounding without sacrificing athleticism and versatility at the 3 and even the 4 in a Nellie lineup. Furthermore, Marvin has greatly increased his range as a shooter posting 3 FG% of .355 last season. Marvin is 23 years old and already has playoff experience as a rotation player. I could see him really developing further into an impact, if not breakout, player as long as he gets more consistent PT like he could in The City. This deal would also work for Atlanta. Atlanta has been knocking on the door of breaking through in the playoffs and need another veteran presence like Jax to provide them with additional toughness. Just last week Joe Johnson was quoted as saying that the Hawks needed to get tougher. Not exactly sure in what sense he meant, but a gritty vet like Jax with the reputation of not backing down and wanting to win now might help with the sense of urgency I’m sure that Atlanta feels to keep advancing in order to bring Johnson back as a FA this coming summer. Not sure what ya’ll think but I like this one and think it is fair for both parties considering their situational differences (Warriors building for future/ ATL Win Now). Lastly, Marvin is from the Northwest.and a change of scenery could be exactly what he needs to take the next step as a player. He’s only 23 and that talent is still there. I’m not sure he’s going to find it in ATL and I think ATL is starting to get a clue that he may not fit into their current team dynamic, as his role has yet to be defined this year with the addition of Crawford. With all that said, we would have to wait until the Dec. 15th deadline for FA’s, but my vote is to bring Marvin to the Bay!

by WarriorWay86 on Nov 13, 2009 12:00 PM PST reply actions  

Diaw or Marvin?

Although I agree with those who have already mentioned that getting Jax to agree to a deal to Charlotte would probably be "shot down" (which isn’t necessarily figurative with Jax) by him since Charlotte has yet to demonstrate that it is a serious contender, which he has stipulated as a necessary precondition for wherever he is dealt. Negating the fact that Atlanta is a contender and Charlotte is not, I still argue that the Warriors would be better suited by going after Marvin Williams rather than Diaw. Marvin could be another integral piece of our young core to lock in, and for a franchise desperately in need of some stability we should be looking at the fact Marvin’s deal is inked for 5 years compared to Diaw’s 2 as an asset to secure, not a stumbling block to run from. Not to mention that Marvin is younger, more explosive, and would no doubt find motivation/ if not rejuvenation returning closer to where he came up and made a name for himself in the northwest. Diaw and Marvin are similar in many respects because of their size and versatility in the frontcourt. However, for reasons stated I would adamantly choose Marvin over Diaw, aside from the fact that Atlanta is actually a trade partner capable of meeting Jax’s preconditions of being a playoff contender. If this option were on the table, who would you weigh in with of these two players? Diaw or Marvin?

by WarriorWay86 on Nov 13, 2009 6:23 PM PST reply actions  

You say Jackson won't accept trades unless its a serious contender

well what about the Knicks

There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq Chuck Norris lives in Texas

by Mike Fox on Nov 13, 2009 6:40 PM PST reply actions  

Either that is Jax being Jax

or more likely Jax is being shrewd and cognizant of the fact that New York is going to have the cap space to become a contender almost immediately with the impending FA carousel this summer.

Unrelated Note: Jax isn’t an idiot or a bad guy. I would argue quite the opposite. His pride is killing him right now being in this situation with how things have deteriorated around him.

by WarriorWay86 on Nov 13, 2009 6:46 PM PST up reply actions  

If Charlotte has indicated interest in Jax

Then wouldn’t they also be interested in Maggette? Similar contracts and both are wing players that can score, albeit Jax is a much better facilitator and ball handler than Maggette. With Charlotte already demonstrating a difficulty scoring, Maggette makes sense to help them address this issue and can step in at the 2 or the 3. Moreover, it makes sense for the Warriors to move Maggette for players such as Chandler and Nazr, even if it means moving Biedrins. Biedrins is a stat machine and is a good big man for our system, but Chandler is similar in many respects, especially with his athleticism, length, and mobility, and it is not unthinkable that returning to his home state where he came up and made a name for himself would provide him with motivation/rejuvenation. I press to include Chandler in the deal mainly because he has a shorter deal than Andris while providing comparable performance. The contracts might hurt us immediately, but long term the way they are structured gives us more flexibility to address our future needs more aggressively. While Curry would be tough to part with, swapping him for Augustin makes lots of sense for both teams. They are similar players in that they can play the 1 and the 2 and have the ability to be impact scorers. At this stage though, Augustin is more advanced at the point guard position than Curry while being equally as talented as Curry at scoring the ball. Charlotte could bank off of Curry to sell tickets due to his popularity as a former local college star at Davidson and perhaps lesser for his dad’s legacy with Hornets back in the day. Lastly, Charlotte would love to get out from under Nazr’s contract now as he is redundant as a defensive oriented big when they already have Diop to fill that role. However, his presence at the backup C position would have more impact for the Warriors as he could allow Turiaf to play more minutes at the PF position while Wright is out with injury as well as provide much needed size on the interior during this current injury streak. Let Biedrins get healthy and then make this move.

by WarriorWay86 on Nov 13, 2009 6:40 PM PST reply actions  

So much wrong with that comment

Jackson is a way better fit than Maggette, and he is not a guard like Jackson and wallace is their sf
Also why would you trade Biedrins for Chandler, you either just don’t know basketball or are dumb.
Chandler sucks and is injury prone
Biedrins is a great fit for our offense and a great defender and rebounder.
Chandler would not survive in our offense. His foot is going to get injured with all the running.
Biedrins has too much Potential and is worth too much to be traded for Chandler. Chandler is not locked up long term either

There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq Chuck Norris lives in Texas

by Mike Fox on Nov 13, 2009 6:46 PM PST reply actions  

Let's Clear This Up... Calling Someone Else Dumb

Doesn’t make you smart.

Where do you get off calling me ignorant about the game or dumb in general because of my comments regarding Chandler?

Please tell me which Center is which based on these stats from the last 3 NBA seasons Chandler and Biedrins have played in, because you seem to think that there is a large enough differential between Player A and Player B that one would have to be dumb to not be able to tell the difference. See if you can?

Player A

10.63 PPG
10.1 RPG
1.47 BPG
.601 FG %
60 GS

Player B

10.03 PPG
10.97 RPG
1.37 BPG
.604 FG%
65.66 GS

Call me dumb all you want, I don’t need to let you know what I think of your response. The stats I’ve presented do that by themselves.

Furthermore, you falsely assume that Maggs couldn’t play on the court with Wallace. Maggette clearly doesn’t have to start to be effective and it’s not unthinkable to see him playing the 3 with Wallace at 4 in a small lineup or coming in to play a bigger lineup with him and Wallace at small forward and Diaw at the 4, especially because Diaw is a good facilitator as a big man, to go with a big lineup from time to time. Lastly, I don’t claim that Maggette is a better fit than Jackson. He’s not. Jax would make more sense, but he’s not going to Charlotte or they’re going to be dealing with our situation right now all over again.

by WarriorWay86 on Nov 13, 2009 7:40 PM PST up reply actions  

my bad sorry

Its just Tyson chandler though only fits with a great pg to throw him alley oops otherwise he can’t do much else on offense. Biedrins can run the pick and roll and is younger and healthier than Chandler. Biedrins also is a more efficient rebounder and consistent defender. Tyson chandler is like 10 lbs less than Biedrins and we need all the size we can get and Chandler can get pushed around on defense and offense because of his lack of size. He is just tall and lanky. Plus we can never trade Biedrins potential for an injury prone poor offensive big

There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq Chuck Norris lives in Texas

by Mike Fox on Nov 13, 2009 9:38 PM PST up reply actions  

No way new york would take him anyway

His contract is horrible andwho will they give us not any expiring contracts
They are trying to save money not take bad contracts

There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq Chuck Norris lives in Texas

by Mike Fox on Nov 13, 2009 6:48 PM PST reply actions  

Classy Response

Are you sure that you don’t work for the Warriors front office?

by WarriorWay86 on Nov 13, 2009 6:48 PM PST reply actions  

They are trying to save money not take bad contracts

At least not since Isaiah stepped down. Although what’s gone down in recent years with Warriors is almost just as bad. I’m waiting for Bill Simmons to have another piece in his column on the Lousy GM summit to see how he weighs in on Cohan/ Riley/ etc.

by WarriorWay86 on Nov 13, 2009 6:57 PM PST reply actions  

Charlotte

wont give up there only quality PF, plus they’re trying to save money

but jackson for bell or felton can be a possibilty

by rtgunn on Nov 13, 2009 7:59 PM PST reply actions  

No we don't trade Jackson for Felton, don't need any more pgs but I wouldn't really mind it we traded for Bell because of his defense as long as their is a big involved

Any trade we make has to involve a big, any big we are just too raw downlow. Even if we trade Jackson we still need a big. Maggette and Azubukie cannot play powerfoward they just cannot. We can’t win playing that small even if we are against horrible teams. It just doesn’t work and it will never work.

There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq Chuck Norris lives in Texas

by Mike Fox on Nov 13, 2009 9:43 PM PST reply actions  

Ok this is a trade that could work and make us better

  Don’t you have homework? This trade dreamin crap will not get you anywhere, look at all the loser on here.

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On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky

by Skeptic con Urquell on Nov 13, 2009 10:01 PM PST reply actions  

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