RECAP: Warriors 121, Knicks 107 - WESTSIDE til I Die!
Peep out my #1 brother's take on the whole situation (RUMOR: Golden State Warriors Head Coach Don Nelson on his way out)

Stephen Jackson
"With nothing to lose, it's just me against the world."
Me Against the World

The harsh reality in this situation is that no matter what Stephen Jackson does from this point on, no Warriors fan has got his back. He can have a strong performance like last night, 23 points, 8 boards, and 5 steals, but still be hated on (and rightfully so). Mu ch like 2Pac, you don't know what you're going to get outta him. One day, he'll be inspirational and give you a reason to wake up and do something to change this world. The next - he'll throw a temper tantrum and look like a fool. Good work tonight, and here's to hoping if he'll "Hit 'em Up" tonight.
Monta Ellis

"Picture me rollin in my 500 Benz,
I got no love for these n----, there's no need to friends"
Picture Me Rollin
Monta's got the epitome of the - "I don't give a - what you think of me, I'm doin my thing" - attitude. His 22 points will win the game, but the 2 assists, 4 turnovers, and 4 fouls will prove why he's not a PG. Let's be real, he's not making many friends on the team with his selfish play and his lack of desire to do things ("That's why I won't do it. I just won't do it.") But why would he care? He's got a dope moped. Picture Monta rollin!
Nate Robinson

"Sky is the limit and you know you can just keep onKeep on pressin on"Sky Is the Limit
Sigh...I feel really really REALLY bad for Nate Rob. The man's got talent, he's fun to watch but he's stuck on THIS team. Yeah yeah, the Dunk Contests are rigged, but they're still awesome. Who knows where he'll end up next year, but I wish the man well. I kinda wished he slammed all over SJax's face...
Donnie Walsh and Isiah Thomas

"Mo Money, Mo Problems."Mo Money Mo Problems
Sucks to be Donnie Walsh...
Darko Milicic

"Been around the world and I I I
And we been playa hated [say what?]
I don't know and I don't know why
Why they want us faded [ahehe]
I don't know why they hate us [yeah]
Is it our ladies? [uh-huh]
Or our drop Mercedes [uhh, uhh]
Bay-bee bay-BEE!"Been Around the World
Remember who got drafted after Darko? 3 All Stars. Carmelo Anthony, Chris Bosh, and Dwayne Wade.
How many teams has Darko been on since his first draft team - the Pistons? 3 teams - Magic, Grizzlies, and Knicks.
Been around the world? Been playa hated? Still got a fine lady? Rollin in a Benz?
Kelenna Azubuike

"Soon as I stepped on the scene I'm hearin hooches screamin
Fiendin for money and alcohol
The life of a west side playa where cowards die and it's all ball"
California Love
This man has been ON FIRE. Over the last 3 years, he's grown into his own and you can expect a consistent game from him every night. Pullin down 22 points on 9-13 shooting ain't no joke. Mad props to Booke. I'm sure the ladies love his biceps...

CJ Watson
Who knows when CJ will be on the court long enough to earn one of these, so I'll give the man his moment of praise. CJ played well and was ALL OVER THE COURT. 7-8 shooting and 2-2 three point shooting are amazing stats...kinda makes ya wonder why he's not in more?
I'll follow MTII's Pac quote....

"I know it seems hard sometimes, but
Remember one thing
Through every dark night, there's a bright day after that.
So no matter how hard it gets, stick your chest out
Keep ya head up
And handle it."
Me Against the World
REST IN PEACE TUPAC SHAKUR AND CHRISTOPHER WALLACE

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Depressing win
It’s clear to me that the first person who has to go is Jack. He’s always calling for the ball, he’s doesn’t move the ball, he tries to go 1 on 3 or 4, and everyone stands around to watch him. The offense completely stagnates when he gets the ball. There was only one time I saw some hot potato passing among the players, and Jack, positioned in the corner, didn’t touch it.
On one fast break in the 2nd qtr, it was a 3 on 1. Monta had a clear lane to the hoop. But the ball ends up going to Jack for a 3 pt shot, which he misses. Why why why??? I can only assume that Jack called for the ball, and whoever it was that had the ball deferred to Jack instead of making the pass to the driving Monta. It makes me wonder if everyone feels they have to defer to Jack all the time. In that case, he really is a black hole on the offensive side, and everyone’s sucked into it. That’s why JACK MUST GO.
As for Monta as a point guard, it looked like the players are having trouble figuring out what Monta wants, and Monta is having trouble communicating what he wants them to do. As a result, Monta ends up having to drive to the rim. There is definitely going to be a learning curve here for Monta. After all, it took Morrow a long time to develop some sort of a driving and dribbling game. It will take time for Monta and the other players to figure each other out. I’m not ready to give up on Monta as a point guard.
As for Anthony Randolph, watching that play where he got yanked out of the game in the 3rd, it really looked like Nellie subbed him out because of shoulder concerns. AR drove into 3 guys, got the foul call, but then he walked around the baseline leaning on his right shoulder and flexing his fingers, the same shoulder wrapped up in the Corey Maggette happy birthday video. He was also visibly wincing before he stepped up to shoot the FTs. On the replay from the baseline, it looks like his arms went up when the whistle blew, as most players do when they hear the whistle, and the arms hits the arms of a Knicks defender reaching over him, causing the shoulder sting. Jim says this is the same type of thing that took out BWright’s shoulder. Immediately afterwards, Nellie calls Maggette off the bench to sub for AR on the next dead ball.
As for Randolph yelling at Nellie or Smart when he got yanked, MT’s twitter says it was because he was on the wrong side the floor during one offensive set. AR was only in there for 2 offensive possessions in the 3rd, one of which was his foul, so I have no idea what that was all about. If AR was in the wrong on some offensive set, he needs to man up and take responsibility for his mistake, not yell at the coaches. But hey, he’s only 20, and maturity only comes with time and life experience. I’m not going to sit here and act like a saint and claim that I had that level of maturity and responsibility when I was 20, because I certainly did NOT, so I can understand AR’s reaction.
Otherwise, a depressing win. Next game please.
by IQofaWarrior on Nov 14, 2009 10:20 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Did you have that prepared in a word document?
We still believe!!
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no, i'm a genius and a speed typer when it comes to writing
hah. OK, yes I did, in a .txt file. I composed that earlier this morning while the thoughts were still fresh in my head. I usually do that when I have a large comment, so if the browser hangs or crashes, I don’t lose whatever I wrote.
by IQofaWarrior on Nov 14, 2009 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
AR
the response of people who look at his minutes and say “why is Nelson not playing AR” is going to be funny. It was obvious that Nelson was concerned with his shoulder and wanted Abdenour to check it out. The last thing you need when you are without AB and RT is for Randolph to go down and be forced to play MM for 40- minutes. Yelling at5 the coaches is just a byproduct of ME and SJ display of no respect rubbing off on teammates. And people around here wonder why Nelson plays Maggette and gives his so much leeway – he’s one of the only true professionals on the team.
John 8:44 -Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.
I could only watch through a choppy stream
But AR was “hurt” so he got pulled….but then was put in for garbage time? Why would that make sense?
by 123707THIZZ on Nov 14, 2009 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
Bob and Jim said it was to see if AR's shoulder looked OK
presumably for tonight’s game.
by IQofaWarrior on Nov 14, 2009 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
Quite possibly
after getting checked out by the trainer – Nelson was told that his shoulder is fine. But at the beginning of the 4th the Warriors were playing to well to put AR back in.
John 8:44 -Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.
Dude love the big n pac in this recap haha
but Tupac>Biggie
OWENS! OWENS! OWENS! OWENS!
- Joe Starkey
by 9ersDubsGiantSharks on Nov 14, 2009 10:34 AM PST reply actions
Greatest Hip Hop Artists List
- Rakim
- KRS-One
- The Notorious B.I.G.
- Nas
- Jay-Z
- 2Pac
- Eminem
- Big Daddy Kane
- Andre 3000
- Big L
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 14, 2009 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
Jay Z and Nas over Pac?
That’s a bold statement.
Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "You're a rookie"
Indeed
Nas and Jay-Z each had two classic albums. I don’t think 2Pac ever put out a classic record despite all of the hype given to All Eyez on Me.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 14, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
everyone has their own opinions
i love nas pac eminem, biggie and big L. i just think mos def and talib kweli and mos def are absoluetly amazing. Tupac made inspirational songs, a lot of them so i rate him number 1. But a decent list.
OWENS! OWENS! OWENS! OWENS!
- Joe Starkey
by 9ersDubsGiantSharks on Nov 14, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions
tupac is hands down the best all time
definitly , imagine what he’s have done by now if he hadn’t got cut down so young.
my top list would include Tupac, Dre, Geto Boys, Kanye, Snoop, Eminem, Jay-z, Wyclef and homeboy Too short. :>) Guys like Rakim just don’t have the widespread appeal to be considered top acts.
Standing on the moon
Where talk is cheap and vision true
Standing on the moon
But I would rather be with you
Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky
by Skeptic con Urquell on Nov 14, 2009 4:27 PM PST up reply actions
One day, he'll be inspirational and give you a reason to wake up and do something to change this world. The next - he'll throw a temper tantrum and look like a fool
and get himself killed. I love tupac but I hate that he wasted all that genius and never let us see what might have been.
Standing on the moon
Where talk is cheap and vision true
Standing on the moon
But I would rather be with you
Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky
by Skeptic con Urquell on Nov 14, 2009 10:44 AM PST reply actions
i blame it all on the media, they circulated the whole east coast west coast thing
and i still don’t believe the government put in a effort to find both their killers. Murdered after a Tyson fight in Vegas, and after a party in LA?…
OWENS! OWENS! OWENS! OWENS!
- Joe Starkey
by 9ersDubsGiantSharks on Nov 14, 2009 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
Monta did not play a selfish game last night
He made a lot of nice drive and kicks, sometimes the shots just didn’t drop, other times it led to an extra pass for another good look. He just cant win with you guys.
well
the atmosphere at MSG was crazy. There seemed to be just as many Warriors fans as Knicks fans. I thought the team played well, defensively were good.
I don't twitter
So, I don’t get that twitter printscreen. Was that MTII quoting 2pac with CJ leaving a comment about his life spiraling downward?? If so, that sucks =(
This is Kristin Kreuk, now zip it. - GTTM
the other way around
CJ said his comment first after that embarrassing loss against the Clippers, then MT responded with the 2pac line.
by IQofaWarrior on Nov 14, 2009 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
Andris Biedrins=Tupac
Tall, white, kinda goofy, no jumpshot… totally Tupac.
Also, Monta TOTALLY has a lack of desire to do things. Do the things, Monta. Just do them.
Welcome to the Pit of Despair! Don't even think about trying to escape.
It's totally CJ Watson
Disappears for games at a time, then comes back randomly with an instant, sometimes lyrically outdated, hit.
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Nov 14, 2009 12:08 PM PST reply actions
We won, and on the road, no less… no trivial thing for this team the last several years. People played hard, and while the passing wasn’t the smoothest, there wasn’t a real selfish feel to the offense, other than from Jack. ’Buike had a great game, Maggette was pretty spectacular, and I was happy to see CJ get a moment in the spotlight.
On the other hand, the Knicks really, really stink. So did Nellie actually coach this game well? Let’s look at several components of his performance last night.
Offense. We had a stellar offensive night because the Knicks didn’t have anyone who could stop us from slashing to the hoop. That is the only reason why, because we used no offensive strategy whatsoever. These were our top five offensive sets of the evening: 1) Jack in isolation; 2) Monta in isolation; 3) Maggette in isolation; 4) ‘Buike in isolation; 5) CJ in isolation. People drove and kicked a little, but in dreadfully obvious ways that a competent NBA defense would’ve exploited; look for a couple “drive and throw it away” plays against Milwaukee tonight. One of the best three-point shooters in basketball got only six shots in 29 minutes… that’s partly on Morrow, no question, but he certainly wasn’t being found well, either. Stephen Jackson is still doing whatever he wants. Corey Maggette is still taking threes.
Defense. The Knicks shot pretty well… in fact, they recorded their highest field-goal percentage in any game so far this year. We played the passing lanes like crazy and picked off enough passes to win, and against a team this feeble, that’s a defensible strategy. But gambling on steals was the only defensive strategy we had last night. It won’t work against many other teams.
Smallball. It worked out fine… we won a game with Corey Maggette at center. You can only get so mad when a quirky lineup doesn’t cost you a win. But you’d have a hard time arguing that UltimateSmallBall is the reason why we won. Maggette has been getting as many scoring opportunities at the four as he did last night at the five (and while I guess it’s quaint to say this when we’re so far down the Nellie rabbit-hole, Maggette has had a little bit of success scoring at his natural position of small forward over the years). Jack didn’t do anything against fours he hasn’t been doing for years against threes. If Randolph had gotten time and Maggette had slid over to the four, we would’ve beaten this team by more than we did. We won despite smallball, not because of it.
Awareness Of Context. Coached like a playoff game, with 47 minutes for Jack, 45 for Monta and 40 for ’Buike. If there was a playoff atmosphere in the Garden last night, it escaped me.
Consistency. Law and CJ played 13 and 11 minutes respectively against Indiana; neither played all that well, but Law was a bit better. Last night? CJ’s minutes jumped from 11 to 27… Law’s minutes went from thirteen to zero. And on a night when we played with possibly the smallest lineup any NBA team will use all season, Steph Curry got three minutes. That’s not even mentioning…
Handling Of Anthony Randolph. Many Nellie defenders point to this as his big strength for the last year-plus, and I generally agree that he’s handled Randolph’s foibles well. But I can’t support how things went down last night. Randolph was coming off of two very good and fairly disciplined performances… he’s heading in the right direction. Even if you don’t think he’s yet earned the starting job (I think he has), he certainly has earned the right to play through a mistake or two, on a team that makes tons of them. There is merit in teaching a wild young player that he can’t play unless he plays smart. But at a certain point, when only one guy is being punished, and he’s being punished very strictly in an otherwise rules-free environment, it becomes arbitrary and alienating. Randolph is officially getting the Brandan Wright Treatment at this point. Nellie’s not teaching him, he’s picking on him.
Team Morale. Need we even go into this one?
Strategy During Timeouts. If actual basketball strategy was being discussed, Keith Smart was the one doing it. Nellie’s strategy was to just wander around and ignore the players.
To say that Nellie coached badly last night… well, I think he did coach pretty badly, but that’s not what struck me. Nellie essentially had a temper tantrum. He doubled down on the smallness that’s been killing us, he made a point of overplaying the two guys he’s having public issues with, he made lineup switches that were even more arbitrary than usual, and he humiliated two of our promising young players in the league’s premier city. He’s daring everyone to turn on him at this point. This wasn’t a phoned-in coaching job… this was like a bizarre cry for help.
I can’t even envision Nellie being on the bench this time next week. I bear the guy no ill will… he’s given us tons of great memories over the years, and I expect to remember him fondly, no matter how he goes out this time. But he is a runaway train, hurtling downhill. That was maybe the strangest coaching performance I’ve ever seen.
by onlxn on Nov 14, 2009 1:16 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
Man! How many thee's does Maggs have to airball before he embarrasses himself enough to WANT to stop taking them?
maggette took only 1 three
I can live with him taking one and only one per game, if he’s wide open. After that, then he’s an idiot.
by IQofaWarrior on Nov 14, 2009 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
BUUIIKKKEEE <33
that’s all i have to say
Azubuike? More like Azucutie!
by goldenstatelove on Nov 14, 2009 3:48 PM PST reply actions
+1
I love that kid. Love his attitude, love his soulful look, love the way his game seems to keep improving.
I mean, imagine if all four of our pricy-contract players (Monta, Jack, Maggs, AB) magically disappeared? We’d be left with a bargain-basement core seven-man rotation of
Curry/CJ
Morrow
Azubuike
Wright
Randolph/Turiaf
In terms of talent, athleticism, balance of skills, hoops IQ and attitude, that’s a just a very nice-looking group. Imagine trying to guard Curry/Morrow/Buike on the perimeter? Or keep up with a 4-5 of Wright/Randolph as they continue to bulk up and develop their games? You’d have to be a pretty horrible GM not to be able to turn that core into something special.
Which is to say: the solutions to this team’s woes right now seem to me to relate much more to subtraction than to addition. Cohan/Rowell/Nelson/Jackson for starters…
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Nov 14, 2009 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
Whoa. W.T.F.
IIRC, Brandan Wright went down mere minutes after I had written a long effusive post about him.
This is freaking unbelievable. Here’s hoping it’s a minor sprain…
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Nov 14, 2009 6:08 PM PST up reply actions
Understand Basketball 101: Stephen Jackson's statline
PLAYER MIN FG-A 3PF-A FT-A REB-O AST STL TO BLK PF-T PTS
Stephen Jackson 47 10-23 2-10 1-2 8-1 3 5 4 0 3-0 23
“23 Points! 8 Rebounds!”
This could have been a great statline. If he hadn’t bricked a ton of shots from downtown. Stephen Jackson should not be jacking up 10 three pointers a night. Take those away, and he shot 8-13, and had a great night.

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