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Thank You, Jack

Really and truly.  The recent ugliness shouldn't obscure the fact that you gave us some awesome moments.  As a wise man once said, "I'll never forget you and love you in spite of your faults/The good and the bad, I want to remember it all."  I know how you love your Waylon Jennings, Jack.

You brought swagger to a team that had forgotten what it felt like.  You reinvigorated Baron.  You covered for hundreds of defensive lapses (early on, anyway).  You mystified Dirk Nowitzki.  You nailed threes on fast breaks and laughed as you ran back down the court.  YOU ENABLED US TO DUMP MURPHY AND DUNLEAVY!  All that stuff was awesome.

Did you go out like a jackass?  Sure.  But it should be noted: your jackassedness was not solely your fault.  Robert Rowell gave you a contract extension befitting a star; Don Nelson gave you the huge minutes and offensive leeway of a star.  If you think you're better than you are, it's partially because this franchise did too, and foolishly told you so.

Good luck in Charlotte.  If you kickstart that team the way you kickstarted ours three years ago, the NBA will be a much more entertaining place.

Fare thee well, you lovable, maddening, crazy, crazy man.  It has not been boring.

This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!

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It will be very interesting to get the other guys’ reactions to this trade over the next few days. I have a feeling quite a bit will be revealed by how Monta in particular reacts to all this.

Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!

by Supafishal on Nov 16, 2009 10:22 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

While Im happy to see him go

He was a main part of a team that did bring me the most joy I have ever had as a warriors fan. Thank you for that Jack hopefully you can do the same for the Bobcats.

by Oracle Junkie on Nov 16, 2009 10:24 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Golden Waves

I’ve lived through three peak eras of Warrior play – Rick Barry, Run TMC, and We Believe. Even though most fans are biased towards their youth (how can you ever love sports like you did as a kid, anyway?) I think We Believe was the most thrilling to watch.

"The questions are so stupid. I don't believe in rivalries. I don't believe in curses. Wake up the damn Bambino, maybe I'll drill him in the ass."
- Pedro Martinez, asked about the Curse of the Bambino

by achiappanza on Nov 20, 2009 9:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We Believe is officially dead

Even if he broke our hearts in the past few months with his whining and complaining, the guy brought momentary joy and success to a team, and most importantly to a fanbase, that deserved it as much or more than any others in the NBA. Its too bad things had to work out the way they did, from the JRich trade to letting Baron walk, Harringtons whining, to the culmination in Jack being shipped out. I’ll always remember that magical team, and hopefully this won’t be remembered as the end of an era, but the beginning of a bright new one led by our exciting youth, Curry, Randolph, Morrow, Wright, Ellis, Azubuike.

by Pearlsofwisdom on Nov 16, 2009 10:43 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I rarely rec anything, that’s two in one day for onlxn. Good stuff – the good memories and times Jack gave us definitely outweigh the bad. Glad he’s gone, glad we didn’t have to bring in a bad contract to rid ourselves of him, but there were a number of good times I won’t be forgetting. Thank you, Cap’n Jack.

by Missing Barry on Nov 16, 2009 10:51 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Tnx

31 Y 6.5 ft 250 lbs 0 IQ

Fire Nellie! Fire Cohan! Fire Gregory! Fire David Stern! No need for explanations, just fire em all!

by Missing Barry

by Lat We N Trash on Nov 16, 2009 11:00 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

That's awesome.

Don't worry about me Thurgood, I'll be fine. The robbery is what's important now.

by the guy on Nov 16, 2009 12:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hella throwback. Good stuff!

"Monta is the MAN." -Bob Fitzgerald

by WarriorForLife on Nov 19, 2009 8:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No Thanks.

Stephen Jackson stole from Golden State. Sure you can thank him all you want, but what he pulled this year was disgusting in terms of integrity.

Yeah let me sign a contract extention super larger then anyone else would ever offer me, because this team cares about me. How do I thank them? SWEET!!! I’ll pull selfish athlete……6 months later and demand a trade, saying that I want to compete for a championship…….THAT I ALREADY have….

Nice knowing you Stephen Hood-Jackson. Enjoy Charlotte the land of “well if we win we win, if we lose, we lose”.

I am sure Larry Brown is going to LOVE having you not run back on defense, or jack up 70 3s, or shoot a 3 on a 2 on 1 fastbreak.

This guy got ALOT MORE OUT OF US, then we got out of him.

He is EVERYTHING that is wrong with the sports athlete in sports.

Loud, abnoxious, arrogant, and now… a liar.

by sjboy on Nov 16, 2009 11:11 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Missing Barry

Stackbum took the money, told the team he would be a leader, then turned on them and went public with trade demands behind the teams back..After that, he played some games and screwed around in others, so now we know what kind of creep he is and you are for thinking what a great Warrior he was..Trying to justify that bums act, just makes you look like a fool..Well done..

Now Rowell is just as bad or worse, but letting this creep slide is just wrong and stupid..So glad to be rid of Stepbum, wish it was the same for Rowell..

by The Sear on Nov 16, 2009 1:13 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I agree

rec’d

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by BritWarriorGSW on Nov 16, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think you lack some perspective and haven’t thought very much about the issue at all, nor did you do very in depth reading of my response. First, is the name calling really necessary? Does it really add anything to the conversation? Probably not. As I acknowledged, there are some valid arguments against what Jack did. At the same time, you haven’t recognized or even thought about any of the motives behind Jack’s actions. Before we go further, keep in mind, like you and me, Jack is a person – it might seem like athletes are different because of the privelaged lifestyle/job, money, and whatever else, but they’re simply people, too, and often make the same decisions and have the same thought process as other people would in their shoes.

The team also made commitments that it did not keep. Brit, that’s really rec worthy? Are you serious? Can you even try to give the issue some real thought before simply rec’ing someone for replacing serious thought/argument with “creep”? Getting back to the point – as Brit has noted in the past – we were promised big moves by the organization. Jack was expecting more from the organization. They did not deliver on these commitments, similarly to Jack not delivering on his whole “leader” stuff. We made no big move in the offseason, we did not add anything meaningful in terms of a veteran presence, instead using the draft pick to get younger (which I support, but again, was contrary to the impression Jack had of the teams direction). We’re buildnig towards a future Jack is not a part of.

Again, as I said, Jack was given a contract that was better than any other option he would have had. He took it. Can you even begin to think most other people would not? Sure, maybe he could have done more to honor his contract and act more professionally, but he has other interests besides just the money – like winning, like expecting the Warriors to go the direction they told him they would, and those things have changed since he signed the contract.

I’m not justifying anything as much as recognizing what went into the decision. You obviously have not given this any thought. I’m pointing out that Jack was in a situation that many reasonable people would have behaved similarly – well, maybe not gone about things the same way, but been equally unhappy and had similar desires to leave to a situation that was better for them, even if they dealt with it in a better manner.

I like the trade, I thought we needed to get rid of Jack after all that happened (and because his contract sucked). I’m sorry that you don’t care to really put some thought into the issue, and I’m sorry Brit encourages such a weak response by not only rec’ing it, but making sure to announce she did…

by Missing Barry on Nov 16, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What would I do?

You make some good points, and here’s what I have to add:

1) In the workplace, there are varying degrees of what people think is appropriate loyalty. I, for one, would never leave to go to a direct competitor, especially if I feel that my employers have shown me that they value my work and invest in me accordingly. I know plenty of people go with, “Do what’s best for yourself,” but I don’t subscribe to that, so I feel that I can honestly say I would not do what Jack did.

2) Even if I did leave for a direct competitor, I would not be bringing a guaranteed contract with me. I would have to see what the market would honestly pay. If I really wanted out, I would forfeit the money. Instead, Jackson took this, “I want the Hell out… but the contract is MY MONEY and the challenge of trading it is yours.” That is flat out uncool.

"The questions are so stupid. I don't believe in rivalries. I don't believe in curses. Wake up the damn Bambino, maybe I'll drill him in the ass."
- Pedro Martinez, asked about the Curse of the Bambino

by achiappanza on Nov 20, 2009 9:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree

In that Missing Barry is spot on that Jack isn’t the one to be upset at. It’s Rowell for two reasons. First and foremost, Jackson didn’t deserve the extension if for no other reason than his age and the caveat that it needed to be longer than the current deal he had which had 2yrs left at the time thus requiring 3 year minimum extension. If Rowell had just waited until the end of last season for the extension then he would have only had to tack on 2 yrs to the deal instead of 3 yrs. This leads us to the 2nd reason for it being Rowell’s fault, which is by subverting Mullin in season it made him a lame duck GM. This crippled any chance the Warriors had of improving the team because it sent a message to the league that Mully was powerless for the rest of the season.

Again, to blame Jack for taking advantage and getting the best contract possible is just wrong. Obviously his antics in asking to be traded were bad but in the end we would have had easier time dealing with this if Rowell had screwed things up with the extension in the first place.

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by mcwalter44 on Nov 16, 2009 3:12 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

You're not making sense...

How can you say in once sentence we can’t blame jack for taking advantage, and then in the next sentence say he is wrong to ask to be traded. If he took the contract, and honored it nobody would be saying anything bad about jack, although still critical of Rowell for giving it to him.

But its those two things combined that are pissing people off. He took a deal, and didn’t honor it. Period.

Rowell might have said they’re gonna try to get this player or that but seriously, Jack knows as well as the rest of us nobody can guarantee that. Besides its not like that was actually written into his wonderful contract…

Again, he made a deal, and didn’t honor it. Simple as that.

by in for life on Nov 16, 2009 7:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

How can you say in once sentence we can’t blame jack for taking advantage, and then in the next sentence say he is wrong to ask to be traded.

This sounds reasonable to me. The second part is more along the lines of how he went about getting himself traded. All the acting up in public may not have been the right move, there were probably alternative methods that could have been used.

Again, he made a deal, and didn’t honor it. Simple as that.

Maybe some of his actions weren’t great and were in violation of his agreement, sure, but there is definitely some underlying issues that are understandable from his point of view. He was promised a different direction than the one we went, and he wanted out after that, to a team where he could win. How is that not understandable? If you want to say he handled the whole process in a poor fashion, there are definitely reasonable arguments, but ultimately it’s not that simple. You could say the same thing about the contract that you can’t guarantee Jack’s behavior or leadership, the things people are ripping on him for…

by Missing Barry on Nov 16, 2009 8:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sure he acted unreasonably by going public but even if he did it in private, it forces the team to do something they aren’t prepared for and essentially give up their best player for less in return.

And again, Rowell can’t really promise the team is going to go in a different direction, only that they will try… But still, as I mentioned just below, Jack knows better than us how that team works, he could see this coming even back then. However, jack signed a deal to play for the Warriors in return for the contract extension. So ya its understandable to want out, but committing to play for a team is a promise that’s a lot easier to keep then a general statement of ‘oh yeah, we’re gonna get a lot better.’

Jack was in control of his half of the deal and he backed out. Why should that be acceptable.

by in for life on Nov 16, 2009 8:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Eh, Jack’s just looking out for his own interests, just as I would expect anyone to do. The other half wasn’t doing what Jack expected to win, so he felt he needed to go elsewhere. I don’t see how that’s not understandable. It’s also the nature of sports that players move around – sometimes it’s not their choice, sometimes it is. Jack pushed for a trade, oh well. Happens all the time. Not in the manner it happened here, I’ll give you that, but simply asking out of a situation isn’t all that extreme…

by Missing Barry on Nov 16, 2009 8:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Its understandable to want to play for a winner. But he signed a contract, which means you agree to play for that team. Thats understandable right? Anytime someone wants to get out of a deal they agreed to they take some heat… And I don’t believe for a second Jackson thought this team would be a winner when signed. Its not like they were on top went on some huge skid since he signed…

by in for life on Nov 16, 2009 8:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

As I’ve said, there are certainly reasonable arguments against his actions, like you’ve been making. I just don’t see the need to act like somehow he’s this scum of the earth spoiled athlete when he’s acting like a lot of people would in his shoes. He got his money, things have gotten bad around here, and now he’s looking to play for a winner instead. At this point things have gotten to the point where he’s seemingly happy to go to the Bobcats just to get out, so clearly he’s not in a friendly/enjoyable work environment. I think he could have gone about the situation in a better way, but I can identify and empathize with his motives.

I don’t think he’s acting much differently than a lot of people would, and I guess that’s the disconnect I’m arguing against. He’s just a person like you and me, and even if you think he made a mistake (which you’ve made a good argument for)…well, we all make mistakes, it doesn’t mean he embodies the evil of pro sports or anything.

I choose to remember the good, because there was plenty of that. My Warriors fanhood starts basically at the beginning of the Cohan era, and Jack was a major part of the only year the Warriors have done anything worthwhile.

So, here’s to Cap’n Jack. Thanks for your accomplishments as a Warrior.

by Missing Barry on Nov 16, 2009 9:38 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Well said...

I never characterized him as the scum of the earth, but I also don’t think that just because his feelings are understandable on some level, that it makes his actions ok. I think when you sign a long-term contract especially with a team like Warriors, you sort of get what you ask for. Even if you go into it with all the right motives, which is questionable at best in this situation.

by in for life on Nov 16, 2009 10:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah you kind of came into the middle of a conversation that started out vilifying Jack and athletes in general with the stupid little “he is everything that is wrong with sports these days” cliche, so that was kind of the topic I was on…

by Missing Barry on Nov 17, 2009 11:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This is silly...

GSW didn’t just walk in and say Jack we love you, you have 2 years left on your contract, here’s a rediculous amount of money on top. He negotiated over weeks or more probably, and no doubt inititated the negotiation.

True he took advantage of Rowell’s ignorance but saying he was simply offered a great deal and took it doesn’t even begin to tell the whole story….

by in for life on Nov 16, 2009 7:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t see what that has to do with anything? Whether it took him a long time or a short time to get the great offer, when he got it, he took it. How does your point make it any different?

by Missing Barry on Nov 16, 2009 8:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m saying the offer didn’t just fall into his lap as you imply by saying he simply saw an offer and took it. By actually negotiating a deal he’s not just taking money that someone is offering him for no reason. He’s expressing a committment to do what the money is being paid out for: to play basketball for the warriors.

Keep in mind, this all after they traded J rich for Wright. After they let Baron, Barnes, and Pietrus go for nothing… After the drama between his friend Al and Nellie started. After Mullin had been hung out to dry. He knew how this team worked and what he was getting himself into. He said himself that the team had been going backwards since they were in the playoffs.

Going out and getting the best deal you can is one thing, but doing when you don’t intend to carry out your half of the deal another.

by in for life on Nov 16, 2009 8:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, if his half of the deal is play basketball, he did do that….

by Missing Barry on Nov 16, 2009 8:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Uhh...

The extension wasn’t supposed to start until next year… So actually he failed to do his half on two deals.

by in for life on Nov 16, 2009 9:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Eh, I don’t think that’s fair. He’s been traded now – it’s not like he stopped playing basketball at any point, even if he was being difficult.

by Missing Barry on Nov 16, 2009 9:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Word
I’m saying the offer didn’t just fall into his lap as you imply by saying he simply saw an offer and took it. By actually negotiating a deal he’s not just taking money that someone is offering him for no reason. He’s expressing a commitment to do what the money is being paid out for: to play basketball for the warriors.

Exactly so. Not just to play, but to play his best, be a leader and champion the fight against mediocrity, not foment it.

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- Pedro Martinez, asked about the Curse of the Bambino

by achiappanza on Nov 20, 2009 9:46 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I have to say, Jack swindled Rowell. It’s one thing to be dumb and naive. It’s another to be a douche and swindle a struggling franchise out of millions of dollars. It’s one thing if they offered it to you, believing you deserved it. However, Jack went behind everyone’s back and made a back room deal with the sucker, R.R., knowing R.R. didn’t know jack about basketball (pun.. sort of intended). At least, that’s how I see it. I think he actively sought out a known sucker.

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by Naticus2 on Nov 18, 2009 10:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think that’s a bit of a stretch. Obviously Jackson was an active participant in getting the contract he wanted. Rowell is the president of a multimillion dollar company, though, I don’t think it’s fair to make it out like Jack is some sort of con artist preying on people who don’t know any better. Also, the whole going behind everyone’s back makes it sound like Jack had other options to negotiate with that he bypassed. The franchise and management were in disarray, Mullin wasn’t really part of any process, I don’t think there were really any other people with the authority to negotiate a contract besides Rowell at that point, so even though the deal was kind of sketchy and came out of nowhere, I don’t think you can pin that entirely on Jack…

by Missing Barry on Nov 19, 2009 7:30 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It wasn’t entirely out of nowhere. I remember when Biedrins and Monta were getting their extensions Jax saying that he felt he should get one too, since he was such a big part of the team. I have no idea how much behind the scenes pressing he did with management to get the offer, but there did not appear to be a huge amount of resistance to the idea from Rowell.

I suspect that Rowell perceived a very valuable player and feared he’d lose the loyalty of that player and tossed money at him to buy loyalty. Rowell seemed to think that Jax was a much better player than he was, seemed to fall victim to all the same hype that the common fan does (Jax is what made us win!) and subscribed to the same limited view of what constitutes a quality player (he’s a 20ppg scorer!) and made a decision by those measures.

In the end, it bought a year of ‘loyalty’ on a team that wasn’t very good, in part because they were depending on a player (Jax) who was never good enough to depend on in the first place.

If there’s a lesson, I think that it’s fair to say that if you have to buy someone’s loyalty, it’s likely that the loyalty will run out long before you stop paying the bill.

by jae on Nov 19, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

True, and my out of nowhere comment was more along the lines of we, as fans, didn’t hear anything about the process and then all of a sudden he had a contract extension that our GM didn’t work out with him….so it at least came out of nowhere for me!

by Missing Barry on Nov 19, 2009 2:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The reason I say it was behind people’s back is because Nellie was in the process of warning Jack that it would be a rebuilding team, suggesting he might want to be traded. Nellie knew nothing of the extension. Rowell knew nothing of Jack just wanting money and having no real loyalty at all. It was manipulative, that’s all. Nellie knew nothing of a pending extension and R.R. got swindled, like a dope.

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by Naticus2 on Nov 20, 2009 12:42 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The thing you're forgetting to mention

Is when things went south Don Nelson told him : “Do you want to be traded? I will find you a trade, but its gotta be right for us as well”

What did Jackson do instead?

“IS THIS MIC ON? OK HELL YEAH, I WANNA BE TRADED YALL, I WANNA BE PART OF A CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM”

I’m sorry, you’re a team captain? Outstanding way to conduct yourself. Really. Because you know Don Nelson and the rest of his teammates woke up everyday thinking of ways to get hurt, play bad, and lose as many games as possible. Not the way they planned it, just the way it happened.

Look Harrington did the same thing, now he rides the bench in New York, still takes 12 3-pointers a game. They are just not as good as they think they are. Have you seen how he has been playing in Charlotte? lol. Volume shooter for sure. He will be canned out of there as soon as they can I’m sure.

Jackson held the contract for 3 months (he is his own agent, shocker that he doesnt trust anyone else like the rest of the world) and then he signed it. What changed? Nothing, besides the fact that he is a prick.

The real thing that set them over, was the team said they wouldn’t use the 7th pick and bring in a veteran player. Observe closely.

Did this happen? YES. If you watched the NBA draft, the trade was imminent and good to go, when the Timberwolves and everyone else passed up on Curry and he fell into the Warriors lap and Steve “I love da Spurs” Kerr decided he wanted Curry also on top of our entire team for Amar’e Stoudemire.

That is an insanity to ask, so of course the Warriors said no. Why? Because Curry has Chris Paul written all over him, why in god’s name would you trade him?

Naturaly right after that Jackson didnt want any of it. Instead of being a grown up and come to Nelson (who is the Team’s GM honestly" and say “ok go ahead and trade me”, he barks out loud, ruins the chemistry (the players wanted him out also by the way), and gets traded to the Bobcats.

Moral of the story is, because of his immaturity that has gotten him in trouble everywhere else, NO ONE WON. Warriors lose because yet ANOTHER trade, and Jackson loses becauses he goes to a coach that is going to break him in half, and possibly end his career, and a team that is 5x worser then the Warriors (yes its possible).

That is what I ment by that. I put myself in his shoes, Don Nelson’s shoes, the Warriors shoes, and he was wrong. Dead wrong. He knows it. Thats why he STFU when he got traded to the Bobcats, he knows he is on his last leg.

Dont believe me? Just go ask Allen Iverson. #4 all time PPG scorer in NBA history, NO ONE WANTS TO HIRE HIM.

Thanks

by sjboy on Nov 20, 2009 8:26 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Jack played hurt, and gave his heart and soul for the Warriors until he decided they didn’t match his passion and commitment. Is Maggette making 10 million and playing soft and missing games for small injuries not stealing? Or Monta’s moped injury? Or maybe Cohan refusing to pay to field a competitive team? Jack may have “stole” from ownership but that same ownership has stolen more quality basketball from this fan base than Jackson.

by gobigg415 on Nov 16, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thx Jax

I loved having Jax on the Warriors. But all good things have to come to an end.

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by mcwalter44 on Nov 16, 2009 11:13 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Thank you Sjax. You were funny.

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by Doctor Kajita on Nov 16, 2009 11:27 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'll say it again...

put this man on the GSoM staff. Great stuff as usual onlxn. Rec.

Thing 2

by olympicmike on Nov 16, 2009 12:19 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Let the Morrow Era Begin!

Thanks for the memories Jack. Good luck in Charlotte, so much for a contender haha.

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by Xero on Nov 16, 2009 12:53 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Lucky Jack

I am very happy for you that you got the hell out of this mess..Charlotte isn’t the best, but its so much better than this drama..Good luck to you..Thanks for the memories and glad your gone..

by The Sear on Nov 16, 2009 1:02 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Word up. East is weak, I hope he takes em to their first playoff appearance.

One of the few to have appreciated Cap'n Jax. Do well in NC, get that 8th seed!

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by ejdacanay on Nov 16, 2009 1:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't like the 09-10 Jackson

But I loved the Jackson we had on the WE BELIEVE team and the 07-08 season.

Sure, probably all of us don’t like him anymore, but we still should give him credit for what he’s done for us in the past.

Remember the Warriors in the upset they pulled off during the Playoffs? Baron led the team, but Jackson was the guy who shut down the league’s MVP on defense. How many times in recent history have you ever seen the NBA’s MVP get shut down? And the crazy thing about it is that the person who did it was Stephen Jackson.

Also, remember when everyone was talking about how valuable Stephen Jackson was to the Warriors? He got suspended for the first 7 games of the 07-08 season, and the team started off 0-6, even with Baron Davis playing.

Once Jackson returned, we went on a great win streak and won 11 of the next 13 games after the 0-6 start. In fact, if the season started after Jackson’s return, then the Warriors would have been the number one seed in the Western Conference. No one really noticed how good the Warriors were that year, because the West was so competitive that the 6 games they lost to start the season put them so low in the rankings. The Warriors and the Celtics actually had the best records in the NBA since that 0-6 start.

Jackson got a little spoiled in Golden State, but I understand why he’s mad. He’s mad because this team has been going downhill when the fact is that they were a legit playoff team when he first got here. At the same time, he shouldn’t be whining since he got the money he wanted and that he should appreciate the franchise that helped revitalize his career and reputation. Jackson wants to win, though, it just shows how much of a winning mentality he has. I mean, who wouldn’t get frustrated with the Warriors right now? There’s a reason why they haven’t made the Playoffs in 14 of the last 15 seasons.

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by Precise Films Productions on Nov 16, 2009 1:34 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

In fact, if the season started after Jackson’s return, then the Warriors would have been the number one seed in the Western Conference. No one really noticed how good the Warriors were that year, because the West was so competitive that the 6 games they lost to start the season put them so low in the rankings. The Warriors and the Celtics actually had the best records in the NBA since that 0-6 start.

For the record: this is false. Even if you erase the first six games (a rather arbitrary thing to do), the Warriors were not among the Top 7 teams in the league in 2007-08.

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by Sleepy Freud on Nov 17, 2009 7:37 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

thanks for pointing that out

I guess it wasn’t from those 6 games till the end of the season. It was more like starting from those 6 losses till around january or february. The team went downhill to end the season. Would you be able to confirm if that’s correct? I remember Bob and Jim saying something like that during the season, which surprised me a lot. Also, since those first 6 games, the Warriors haven’t lost back to back games till the last month or so of the season.

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by Precise Films Productions on Nov 17, 2009 11:25 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Jackson

Best of luck in Charlotte.
I hope the Bobcats become the worst team in the league.
You’ll want out again, but no one will take you because you’ll be older and you’ll still have the ridiculous contract you fooled us into signing.
I hope you retire as a Bobcat with nothing to show for your pathetic, selfish, whiny career.

by HireMeAsGM on Nov 16, 2009 2:47 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'm always going to be a fan of Jackson, no matter what happened this year

I hope Charlotte makes the playoffs, good luck to him. All of you haters are the one’s being selfish as he, and the rest of THAT team, made us actually exist within the rest of the nation for a good 2 years. We’re going to miss you Jack, and good luck in Charlotte my man

OWENS! OWENS! OWENS! OWENS!
- Joe Starkey

by 9ersDubsGiantSharks on Nov 16, 2009 2:57 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Lol at the party pictures

Monta and Buike look really out of place in the buttoned up shirts and Baron’s beard is bigger than usual…. Now that’s team chemistry

Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "You're a rookie"

by dubzfan on Nov 16, 2009 7:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Last

pic is by far the best! I’ma miss his crazy personality, and now it’s settling in that our team will be back down in the cellar for years to come. O Well, WE BELIEVE was a good month

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by The Dedication on Nov 16, 2009 10:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You will always be my captain

1 Dub.

The Warriors aren't playing like the Raiders.
The Raiders are playing like the Warriors.

- Precise Films Productions

by AR4 on Nov 16, 2009 10:58 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I remember his clutch 3 pointers against Kobe

When the Warriors beat the Lakers in LA. Great game, Warriors had swag! haha.

Formerly known as Five Ten Entertainment.

by Precise Films Productions on Nov 17, 2009 11:27 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I remember that too

Lakers where down big before the 2nd half and we got a third quarter collapse as always then Jack made a clutch 3 last second of the fourth. And it was a Easter Sunday! And the next day we play against the Lakers again. Ref made a bad call cost us a lost man that is history that could have been a deciding game. Good luck Jack with Bobcats hope you guys don’t make the playoffs haha!

Win Or Lose Warriors For Life.........

by mykelala01 on Nov 19, 2009 6:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

THANK YOU

for everything Captain Jack. I didn’t let the last few months taint my view of what he did for this franchise. Even though he was over-emotional at times, and chucked some ill-advised threes, I’ll miss him a lot. That pic with him & Baron standing there while Monta shoots a FT is pretty sad. 2 down, 1 (maybe) to go. We Believe is officially DEAD. So sad it ended way too soon.

Anthony Morrow's jumper is so pure, he has to cut it with baking soda.

by dindin on Nov 17, 2009 3:47 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Even though I hated him recently

I will always be a jack fan. He hated the FO, not us… Jack, I just hope you get the title your looking for.

Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "You're a rookie"

by dubzfan on Nov 17, 2009 10:50 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I can’t deny, I liked him on the basketball court much if not most of the time. He did things I didn’t like on the court, too. I didn’t really like him as a person, but I enjoyed having him here.

Welcome to the Pit of Despair! Don't even think about trying to escape.

by Naticus2 on Nov 18, 2009 10:52 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

i really appreciate jack because

he along with baron and harrington brought the fans back to the oracle and before the 07 playoffs nobody could care less about the dubz. Don Nelson is the main reason why all of the 07 players left ie, BD, Cpt Jack, Harrington, J rich, barnes, peitrus, bellinelli ..etc…Get rid of Nelson, he destroyed the team. We Believe is gone, but We Believe We Suck is back..here goes another 13+ years of garbage seasons from the dubz

DUBfan4life!!!!

by BayAreaKidd650 on Nov 19, 2009 10:30 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'll always remember

Jack’s clutch 3 pointers in the final minute of the Lakers game. Kobe nailing one, Jack hitting one, then Kobe, then Jack hitting the last one to silence Staples Center for GOOD (that night)…..best game I watched that season.

Farewell. You’ll always be one of our Captains.

by ryogahibiki on Nov 24, 2009 10:00 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

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