The Next Trade That Needs To Happen

by CSalMJS on Nov 16, 2009 5:47 PM PST Comment 28 comments

We all have read all the trade ideas multiple GSoMer's have thrown out there and I think my idea has been thrown around and I feel it needs to be done.

I stress this even more with the recent quotes of Ellis saying "I just wont do it" and "Im not going to be that player" or something to that degree. Now I have read a lot of responses saying "oh he didnt mean it like that" well I think he did. Ever since Monta signed his deal he keeps showing that you cant build a franchise around this guy. I think he is the next player that needs to go. I think Curry is your future at point along with Randolph at the 4 if he ever gets the PT.

I say you look to trade with the Utah Jazz. Jazz are talented club especially with Dwill running the show but I think they could use some much needed fire power and I think they would welcome to unload Kirilenko's contract. I think the Warriors should offer Ellis, Maggette, Claxton and George for Boozer and AK (worked on trade machine). Boozer wont be back with the Jazz next year and AK is owed 34 million over this season and next. Of course the Jazz would be taking on longer contracts but I think this trade will make them much more competitve as they are buit to win now. I mean I dont know you tell me but I think having a starting line up of Dwill/Ellis/Maggs/ Milsap/Okur is much better to try and get past Denver / L.A.

For the Warriors this will allow Curry to be the man at point and have a legit 4 while Randolph continues to grow. You could throw a rotation of

Curry / Watson

Morrow / Bell

AK / Buike / Vlad

Boozer / Randolph / Wright

Andris / Turiaf / Wright

I think this line up is worlds better then throwing out what we got now. I hope this can get forwarded to Riley and he has a clue to make something happen. All I have seen him do is trade a young 21 yr old shooter / defense man for garbage in George and getting 2 role players for Jackson (although we do get cap relief).

I know AK has a huge price tag but Warriors coud still save money if they decide not to resign Boozer plus next year having 23 Million in expiring contracts in AK and Vlad.

Tell me your thoughts. Plain and simple this trade makes us better on defense and on the boards..something we dont do at all.

But realistically this is only a pipe dream. Warriors cant make this happen. So I guess we can enjoy Vlad playing the 5 and our 25 win season.

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radmanovic + maggs+ claxton = kirilenko

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by Ramah71 on Nov 16, 2009 5:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

So you think.....

Magette is hindering the growth of Randolph?
Curry’s also had his chances numerous times to be the “man” at the point. Even if we trade for Boozer, he’ll most likely log up minutes at the 4 preventing Randolph from playing.
I understand why everyone is upset with Monta but calm down and see how the situation plays out.
There’s really no need to assume he wants to go. I’ll believe he wants to go when I hear him say so.

by Richboievans on Nov 16, 2009 5:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Randolph doesnt get minutes regardless

Nellie is playing Mikki Moore over him but I dont think Nellie is that brain dead to not use boozer if we had him. And we all know boozer can produce more then moore.

And how does 9 games into your rookie season qualify as giving the chance to be the man. If we hope for him to be the PG we all wish he needs to play 35 minutes a night end of story. People dont seem to understand that you will never know what kind of player you have unless you turn them loose.

by CSalMJS on Nov 16, 2009 6:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

So what exactly does this do for the future of the Warriors? Next year we lose Boozer, the year after we lose Kirilenko, and now we’re minus a talented young player in Ellis…

by Missing Barry on Nov 16, 2009 6:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

and we are in the runnin for MELO!

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by LostHawkGSW on Nov 16, 2009 6:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Jazz aren't in a position to do a trade that doesn't give them cap relief... Maggs, Ellis, Beans all out.

by Sricko on Nov 16, 2009 6:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

this is our team

get used to it. let the young guys develop.

by tjmax on Nov 16, 2009 6:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

+1

See how the team plays without Jack around.
If we win a few more game or give Boston and Cleveland some trouble, let it be.

by Richboievans on Nov 16, 2009 6:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Why does everybody want to trade our best player

one of our few potential all-star talents in years.

by Am22mO on Nov 16, 2009 8:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

People aren’t to keen to his attitude. Some people are upset from last season and some are upset from the beginning of the season.

by Richboievans on Nov 16, 2009 8:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

because warriors fans are conditioned to think future only

as of now curry is better than monta in the ‘future’

by tafkasam on Nov 16, 2009 9:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I rec'd it

The trade is a great one and it needs to happen.

Ellis and Maggette are the two most overrated players left on the squad. Their “me first” mentality towards basketball does not win games.

Their adjusted plus/minus ratings for the last two seasons are terrible: -4.56 (Ellis) and -4.21 (Maggette). Those are two worst ratings of the whole team (excluding fan favorites Mikki Moore and Devean George).

Their main contribution is efficient scoring, but that can be replaced with our remaining players and a coach that would actually run plays. They contribute nothing on defense. Take a look at the stat lines of whoever Monta guards; he routinely makes them look like All-Stars. They’re average rebounders for their size but are terrible for us at the positions they play. And, probably worst of all, they’re both black holes and can’t pass well.

Even if Boozer walked next season, it would still benefit us to make this trade. He’s a bit overrated too but at least his contract would expire.

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by YaHeard on Nov 16, 2009 8:37 PM PST reply actions 1 recs

i rec'd you

they do nothing to make others on the team better. but they try really hard every night to get there numbers.

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by Rach on Nov 16, 2009 8:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Utah would never take someone like Ellis

He has that “bad boy” persona or guy with attitude issues. When was the last time Utah has ever taken one of those guys? DeShawn Stevenson didn’t last that long with them

by Kid Curry on Nov 16, 2009 8:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

PLEASE TRADE TO THE KINGS!

They need a SF and since KMART is out and also they still play that foul game. MAGS WILL BE PERFECT for the Kings! Trade him for a scrub named Kenny Thomas. The only value he has is his contract ends this year. Both contracts are 8 mil. PLEASE DO THIS FRONT OFFICE!!!!

by goaldenstateboy on Nov 16, 2009 8:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

lol

So Monta goes from being the darling of the We Believe team who won “Most Improved Player”, and all of a sudden he’s become an evil cancer to the franchise.

Warriors fans are funny.

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by Precise Films Productions on Nov 16, 2009 9:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

If by "all of a sudden"

You mean the period of time in which he signed a large, long-term contract, hurt himself riding a moped, lied about it, publicly stated he doesn’t think he can play with the team’s first round pick, and seems to have regressed from his MIP year, sure, that’s all of a sudden. And now he says he doesn’t feel the need to do anything differently now that Jack is gone. You’re right. We Warriors fans sure are a fickle bunch.

Don't worry about me Thurgood, I'll be fine. The robbery is what's important now.

by the guy on Nov 16, 2009 11:36 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs

Yeah monta needs to go

http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2009/11/16/monta-ellis-doesnt-sound-happy/

by 123707THIZZ on Nov 16, 2009 9:38 PM PST reply actions 1 recs

Everyone read this article.

Monta comes off as well, stupid. He actually thinks he plays defense?

Don't worry about me Thurgood, I'll be fine. The robbery is what's important now.

by the guy on Nov 16, 2009 11:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Why would Utah need Ellis when they have D-Will? You just don’t trade players like Ellis, he is still the W’s best player. He’s not the best PG, not the team leader, but he is the best player on this team and if you trade him, the W’s are going to be worse than they already are.

Btw, why would you start Morrow? He is overhyped, yes he’s a good shooter, but starting SG? He hasn’t really done anything as the starting SG. I think he should come off the bench for awhile. Raja Bell, on the other hand, is a good SG who can actually play defense. He isn’t the best scorer, but he can shoot and play good defense, something the Warriors are lacking.

by DubsFan408 on Nov 16, 2009 9:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Actually, I think Ellis and Williams would be great together. Williams has great size for a PG to let Monta guard 1’s, he’s a great distributor and one of Monta’s biggest strengths is his movement off the ball. I don’t necessarily see Williams as a running PG, so that doesn’t complement Ellis, but other than that, I think they’d be a very nice combo…

by Missing Barry on Nov 16, 2009 10:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Stupid trade idea

Ellis should be built around. Stephen Curry isn’t even remotely close to finishing at the rim like Ellis can. Also what makes Ellis so great is that he can take a long rebound regardless of if there are two or three men back, he can get by them with ease with his speed.

When I hear the talk of Ellis needing t o be traded I can only laugh there is no way the Warriors trade Ellis unless they get a big name that will be sticking around for more than a year and when I mean big name I mean big name!

by Rocky63215 on Nov 16, 2009 10:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Uh Huh

Monta? the Darling of “We Believe” my ass, Monta sat and cried on the bench all through the playoffs of 07’, he’s a good player but nothing special!

by Brothaplease09 on Nov 16, 2009 11:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Boozer wont stay here….

I’m all for AK to come to town, but could do without Boozer. Need to give Randolph the PT for the future.

by Bellringer21 on Nov 17, 2009 6:29 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

I don’t like this trade, I looooove this trade!

And ya we need Boozer to make the salaries work and to have a go-to guy for once. monta’s the most overrated player in the history of mankind.

by RowellMustGo on Nov 17, 2009 6:43 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Boozer

Seems like a health risk. I have a funny feeling he will get a big contract from somebody and then you will never hear much from him again. I loved his game a couple season’s ago, but now I am not so sure. Bad knees make it awfully tough to rebound the ball.

Kirilenko is an interesting idea. His contract is awful, but he would definetely help us a lot. A glue-guy like that is exactly what we need. Still, I think Tayshaun Prince is the guy we ought to be targetting, and I think we could get him for expiring contracts.

Curry/Monta
Monta/Bell
Prince/Maggs/RadMan
Randolph/Radman/Turiaf
Biedrins/Turiaf/Randolph

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by Supafishal on Nov 17, 2009 8:22 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

prince over kirilenko any day

but I see a future of the warriors taking whoever they can get because no one wants to come here and no one wants what we have to trade. Our expiring contracts do not match up well with very many teams

by warriorsvictim on Nov 17, 2009 9:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs