RECAP: Warriors 108, Cavaliers 114 - A Victorious Loss
Despite the obvious loss tonight, I pretty sure I'd be hard pressed to find anyone who has been watching the Warriors this year who wouldn't be pleasantly surprised at the display we put forth. Usually, losses are pretty tough to write on. This is especially the case with the Warriors because losses are usually coupled with an excess of embarrassing preventable mistakes.
We knew we were outmatched in this game from the moment that we saw it on our schedule. Add to the mix the fact that the Warriors had to approach this game with only 7 healthy players (one of them suiting up in a Dubs uniform for the first time ever) and we had a recipe for a smack down.
But tonight, we saw something different. We saw one of the NBA elite teams look at each other in amazement, wondering why they couldn't extend a lead. We saw Ellis and Curry dishing the ball with flare. We saw Maggette hitting up the floor, fighting for boards and fighting through gauntlets for points. We saw Morrow draining tres in the face of the bewildered Cavs...
...we saw our boys play like Warriors.
Warriors vs Cavaliers Boxscore
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First and foremost, let's talk about the newest addition to the club. I have to say, I'm not all that dissappointed with Vlad's performance out there tonight! Is he going to be a point for point replacement for Stephen Jackson? No, probably not. But it was nice having a 6-10 shooter show some efficiency (at least in the first half) With enough training in Nellie's system, Vlad can trim down his shot selection and make a nice addition on both sides of the floor.Plus he's not crazy. That kind of goes a long way.
All said and done, we've only seen half of what this trade had to offer. Unfortunately, that's going to be the case for a long time. So hell with it, let's make some proverbial lemonade. Not too Vlad at all if you ask me.
Moving onto the game - it was nice seeing such a depleted roster come out with such a strong offensive start. One could only hope that this type of offensively display would be complimented by some defensive output, but sadly this was not the case. Despite some great shots (and a great drive by Steph Curry that is worth noting), LeBron and Hickson (hello Warrior Killer!) did a tremendous job tearing up the Warriors inside. By the time the quarter ticked down, the Dubs had 30, but found themselved to be down by 5.
Defense was certainly happening on the Cavs side however. The first half gave way to some incredible swats by Cleveland. Well, if you were the Warriors, change that "incredible" to "embarrassing". Right out of the gates the Cavs increased the lead to 11 and were well on their way to running away with this game.
Now this is when it happened. Ordinarily, the Warriors (especially the Warriors with a 7 man rotation) would have accepted their fate and begun the beloved ritual of hurling up long bricks. But that's not what we saw. It all started with Morrow heating up from beyond the arc, nailing 3 tres in the 2nd quarter alone. This was enough to prevent the Cavs from running away with the lead, but unfortunately, not enough to chisel into it either. Honestly, it was nice enough seeing us hang with a team at a notch above us. But how long could it last?
Third quarter. Where Morrow's shooting cooled, Mags started up on the hustle. Where Vlad's midrangers started bricking, Monta's took over. Only at the end of this quarter did LeBron take over enough to stretch the lead back out to 11. So this was it. LeBron was about to take over the game and finally put the Warriors in his rear view mirror.
Enter the fourth. As the fatigue set in for the Warriors, Anthony Randolph stepped in and completely turned his dismal game around. Scoring most of his 13 points in the 4th quarter alone, Randolph came out with a fire unseen in the previous three quarters. As the back and forth continued, the Warriors actually managed to chisel the Cavs' lead down to 1 off of a ridiculous three from Morrow.
In the end, LeBron did what LeBron does. A few timely dishes and scores padded the Cavs lead with the right amount of time on the clock and the Warriors came away with another loss. But the Cavs have to be wondering how 7 scrappers from the Bay had them on their toes for 48 minutes. I know I am.
All 7 of our players scored in the double digits. We out-rebounded the Cavs and dished out the same amount of dimes. Given our limitations, the Warriors were on form tonight.
Yes. A loss is a loss. No way around it. But in the chaos of this one comes a glimmer of hope. Maybe this team can pay together. There certainly was some inspiring ball movement that led to some pretty innovative scores tonight. Could they do this again? Does this have anything to do with the departure of Jackson's stop and pop style of play?
It sure would be interesting to see what this team does when it gets a little healthier...

Gotta go with Monta on this one. With 23 points and 8 impressive dimes, Monta was doing it from all ends of the floor all night. Where our other players suffered through hot and cold streaks, Ellis served as the go to guy to keep our offense flowing.
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The Warriors have been fun to watch lately...
… and that’s ultimately why I am a Warriors fan, but man, Maggette can’t be caught walking at such crucial times like that… and Randolph needs more minutes. He’s the Point Forward Nellie’s system thrives on, I don’t understand…
AR NEEDS MORE MINUTES.
by monta ellis on Nov 17, 2009 11:08 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
We need RAJA BELL
to continue to give speeches to Randolph…wow…Randolph seemed like a completely different player after Raja took him aside. I hope this is the start of Randolph’s real season right here! AR vrs KG tomorrow night, better represent AR!
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by LostHawkGSW on Nov 17, 2009 11:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Excellent Point
It can’t be stressed enough how important it is that we got Bell, a veteran leader. The only real veteran leader we had on this team was Jackson, and he was the opposite of a leader this year. Having a vet, who’s playoff tested, who values defense and unselfishness and the intricacies and nuances of the game, is priceless when you consider our youth. He is a key element, in my opinion.
by bradyk2 on Nov 17, 2009 11:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree
I love that we have a vet who has the intensity, the teamwork, the leadership, and the defensive mentality that can really help our young guys grow.
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
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by LostHawkGSW on Nov 17, 2009 11:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i think rajas a better leader than jack.
lol i bet jack would be like “share the ball!! make the extra pass!” and brick 2 some jumpers and drive to the lane and get a turnover
by GSWBALL on Nov 17, 2009 11:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We signed a veteran leader in the off-season.
Devean George, right? He was flown in from Cali… wait… he wasn’t even at the game again right?!? Didn’t they say they would fly him in and suit him up just to have the bodies?
If he doesn’t get paired in some sort of trade this season, what a complete waste.
Seriously though, Raja Bell is the man. I hope after his surgery he still sits on the sidelines every game and talks to the guys.
by samuraaaaiiiiiii on Nov 18, 2009 12:18 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Randolph seemed like a completely different player after Raja took him aside.
bell just told him to get the lead out or he was gonna personally clothsline him when he came back to the bench.
Standing on the moon
Where talk is cheap and vision true
Standing on the moon
But I would rather be with you
Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky
by Skeptic con Urquell on Nov 18, 2009 9:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
A point worth noting
People are chastising Monta for his lack of passing ability, and Nellie for playing a 2PG lineup. I know that this number doesn’t make complete sense, But with Monta and Curry sharing PG duties, they are averaging 9.4APG, or third in the league. Stats obviously don’t work like that, but lets face it – our starting PG is Stephen Ellis.
by bradyk2 on Nov 17, 2009 11:24 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Thank You for recap
it’s really nice to read something less or more positive these days
31 Y 6.5 ft 250 lbs 0 IQ
Fire Nellie! Fire Cohan! Fire Gregory! Fire David Stern! No need for explanations, just fire em all!
by Missing Barry
by Lat We N Trash on Nov 17, 2009 11:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
That's 2 games in a row
that the Warriors demonstrated ball movement, unselfishness, looking for each other, setting each other up. There wasn’t quite the hot potato passing found in the Bucks game, but somehow, the Nellie system has clicked in their minds, and it’s entertaining to see. Morrow and Curry seemed to have gained some newfound confidence. So did Randolph, after a Raja Bell pep talk. The overall on court chemistry was sizzling.
Quick gripes I can remember: Monta not hitting his midrange jumpers. Morrow can’t dribble. Randolph still looks lost on defense once or twice and making basic mistakes. Radman losing his shooting touch, though he might just be tired and not used to the pace. Maggette can’t be our game closer in the long run. But he’ll have to do for now, since it seems Monta doesn’t want to.
Bring on the Celtics tomorrow. And oh yeah. Here’s a message for you, Jack.
by IQofaWarrior on Nov 17, 2009 11:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Forgot to add
Boy did I really really really want that Morrow 3 in the 4th qtr to go in. You just know the Cavs players’ hearts skipped a beat when Morrow launched, because that would have tied the game.
by IQofaWarrior on Nov 17, 2009 11:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
About as good as we could have expected. Worth noting that the Cavs were playing without their starting four and five… there’s no way we outrebound them in this game if Shaq and/or Varejao plays. And more generally, they were pretty clearly in cruise control, hoping to save energy before flying to and playing in DC tomorrow. All that said, still a quite worthy effort by the Dubs under horribly difficult circumstances, and a nice demonstration of how little we’ll miss Jack on offense and the boards.
With all due respect to Hash, our best player tonight was pretty clearly Stephen Curry. He only had seven assists to Monta’s eight, but with reasonable luck would’ve had a dozen… he also shot well, unlike Monta, and wasn’t nearly as bad defensively as he’s been. Great stuff from him. Monta worked hard out there and did okay overall, but he really isn’t the ‘07-’08 Monta right now, and it’s not just that his shooting’s off… it seems like things aren’t coming as easily to him as they used to. Morrow did his usual thing and showed some nice chemistry with Curry. Fun stuff.
Maggette was a little slopper than he’s been in recent weeks, especially towards the end of the game. Still had an effective game overall, and nice to see him passing a bit, even if he’s not very good at it. Radmanovic… oy, Nellie’s gonna overplay him like crazy when we’re healthy and it’s gonna make me tear my hair out, but he did fine for a dude who just showed up yesterday. And while I still really, really hate Mikki’s game (twenty-seven minutes, three boards, zero blocks, very few even token attempts to challenge shots), if he keeps showing the soft hands he’s shown the last two games, he won’t be an outright disaster.
Randolph… huh. Randolph had a kinda bad game, but a strange bad game. His bad play earlier in the year was predicated on poor decision-making… that wasn’t a problem tonight, but poor execution was. Put another way, where before he was doing the wrong things, tonight he did the right things wrong. I’d rather see him have that problem, as it seems more easily corrected… more consistent playing time would probably help. (Not sure if I totally buy that Raja totally changed his game on a dime, but I do like the idea of Raja being on the bench… I sorta doubt he will be post-surgery.)
Really pretty good stuff all around… everyone clearly had marching orders not get in foul trouble, so it’s not a night where you can get worked up about some defensive lapses. The funny thing was that it was one of Nellie’s better coaching nights of the year, simply because circumstances forced him to play a normal-sized lineup that was far more effective. I hope he noticed that… I really doubt he did.
A team this shorthanded is gonna be completely gassed going back-to-back. If we’re competitive in Boston, it will be an achievement.
by onlxn on Nov 17, 2009 11:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
As much as I am on record for disliking the way Corey Maggette plays basketball, I’m starting to feel a little sorry for him. There were times in this game and in some of the previous games where he was clearly fouled, and it wasn’t called.
During the game, I was also thinking about how much the Cavs offense bothers me. You know that quick post play that we run for Maggette sometimes, where everyone is cleared out of the paint, and Maggette flashes to the middle about 5 feet from the hoop… Can you imagine running that with LeBron? He would just flash, catch, turn, and tomahawk it down. But they never seem to run anything that involves him moving without the ball…
by samuraaaaiiiiiii on Nov 18, 2009 12:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Circumstances forced him? How about the fact that he finally got a 6-10" four that fits his system?
Nellie played one of the tallest lineups in the NBA while in Dallas. Forced by circumstances?
by Feltbot on Nov 18, 2009 7:35 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, yeah, you’re right… it was smart coaching of Nellie to play crappy lineups for over a year until he got someone that fit his system. You certainly wouldn’t want your highly paid coach to adapt to the talent at hand!
by onlxn on Nov 18, 2009 8:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
“Conventional” really only applies to the heights of the starting frontcourt, not to the way those guys actually play. When RadMan is at the 4, the lineup is not “conventional,” it’s small ball in disguise.
Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!
by Supafishal on Nov 18, 2009 9:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It would be great if we could set all this drama stuff aside and focus in games, as you said a victorious loss no doubt. So let’s just hope that the celtics game is played in a similar way and we can start enjoying fastbreaks!
by atmtc on Nov 18, 2009 12:55 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Randolph needs to have the same 4th quarter for all quarters
AR is kinda looking slow these days…almost dumb on the floor. For a supposed heir to the Odoms and KGs in the league, all he does is jump, try to hang, and hope for a basket. He needs more moves like Jim said…or master the moves he has and keep it consistent.
He also needs to learn to use the board & angles when shooting.
by DubCurse on Nov 18, 2009 3:29 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
He was overthinking in the early part of the game last night, causing him to move slower. I really have no concerns about his athleticism or explosion. He hasn’t even grown into his body and yet he is still making great strides. He should develop a more polished post game as the season progresses.
Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!
by Supafishal on Nov 18, 2009 7:53 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know if there's any truth to this but if anyone knows...
feel free to share.
Is it true Monta WANTS to be traded? I don’t he had said it verbally…and plus the thought of Monta being traded is making me nervous.
Also, why did Raja Bell opted for a surgery over the Warriors when he didn’t mind not having the surgery as a Bobcat? I’ve heard people say he doesn’t want to play for Don Nelson and with Monta Ellis. But then again, I don’t know. And if those are true, then that just plain sucks. Like everyone said, we need a veteran like Bell and I feel like he’s not going to be playing for the Warriors at all.
Will this matter a year from now?
by girltothemax on Nov 18, 2009 7:31 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
He did mind not having surgery as a Bobcat
Bell said he made the decision days ago, before he got traded to the Warriors. He said he told Charlotte’s trainers he thought he needed to have the surgery because he was too limited by his injured wrist.
by IQofaWarrior on Nov 18, 2009 9:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Raja Bell vs. Jackson
This kept sticking in my mind watching the game last night, as Raja Bell was continually the first guy off the bench at timeouts, talking up Randolph and Curry, and generally doing what veteran leaders are supposed to do. All for a team he has never played for and with kids he probably has never even met just because he truly loves and respects the game of basketball. That is the epitome of class, and after skeezy, punkass Jackson, it is truly refreshing to see. Too bad he is having surgery but you can’t really fault him given the time in his career and the fact that he needs a contract next year. Anyway, all the best Raja, maybe we’ll see you in a Dubs uniform next season.
The other thing that flashed in my mind is that Mike Brown is not a very good coach and the Cavs will be lucky to make it the ECF this year. Their entire offense is Lebron. Granted, that’s a pretty good offense in and of itself, but as the poster above said, why not run him off the ball occasionally? It could be devastating. I recognize that the Cavs were sort of cruising last night (although they looked to be playing hard in the second half, and down the stretch) but I just don’t think they have the weapons to deal with the better teams.
Finally, Corey Maggette and Monta deserve props. This is their team now, and our only hope for a reasonably constructive season is that these two friends decide to put everyone on their backs. The last two games have been a very good start. Maggette in particular is playing a more complete game than I have ever seen from him.
Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!
by Supafishal on Nov 18, 2009 7:49 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Corey Maggette…
This is their team now
Monta-maybe but not Maggette.
Will this matter a year from now?
by girltothemax on Nov 18, 2009 7:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why not Maggette?
Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!
by Supafishal on Nov 18, 2009 8:00 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Maggete is good
But as always not at the end of regulation. He travel on the last possession that could cut the lead. But no he does what he does towards the end of fourth quarter a great turnover. But over all he is a good scorer but please Nelson dont let Maggete try to get foul specially when game is on the line. Because he is not Lebron and definitely not Kobe he probably cost us a turnover or miss the shot without the ref calling a foul.
Win Or Lose Warriors For Life.........
by mykelala01 on Nov 18, 2009 11:18 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s funny how Moore flies under the radar always…
I’m not going to blame the loss on him but he did mess up a couple of crucial plays that put the nail in the coffin last night. Late in the 4th quarter when Maggette’s pass was deflected and the ball went into the air, had AR been on the floor he would have rose up and grabbed it. Moore didn’t even have a reaction to the play and it caused a crucial turnover. Also, he didn’t rotate on Lebron which allowed Lebron to throw up an alley-oop late in the game that fired up the Cavs momentum. All I could think was THIS GUY SUCKS
by Throw up the Dub on Nov 18, 2009 8:42 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Anyone have the injury status on Beans and Turiaf?
by Oakland Warriors on Nov 18, 2009 9:26 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
There was a thought going through my mind after the last game
Lebron saw how good we played without our two best bigs and other starters and if he thinks about it how good of a team we would be with him in the lineup then he maybe considers even playing for us next year? I know I know I’m reaching far far in the dreamland but isn’t it obvious how guys like Morrow, Curry, Randolph would became amazing with him in the team. Morrow and Curry would have all the time in the world to shoot and Randolph would have at least 5 dunks a night. So let’s trade Monta, Maggette, Radmanovic for players that contracts expire next year and then go for gold.
Well man can dream.
by buky on Nov 18, 2009 9:55 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
guys like Morrow, Curry, Randolph would became amazing with him in the team
I don’t think lebron is interested in playing with a bunch of midgets. Why make it hard on himself?
Standing on the moon
Where talk is cheap and vision true
Standing on the moon
But I would rather be with you
Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky
by Skeptic con Urquell on Nov 18, 2009 10:00 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
because Anthony Randolph is clearly way too short to play any position on the court
Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!
by Supafishal on Nov 18, 2009 10:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
because Anthony Randolph is clearly way too short to play any position on the court
there’s all kinds of midgets…. height, weight, and mental
Standing on the moon
Where talk is cheap and vision true
Standing on the moon
But I would rather be with you
Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky
by Skeptic con Urquell on Nov 18, 2009 10:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
good recap
I really enjoyed our first game post Jack. The ball was moving around, all the young guys were getting minutes and we seemed to be efficient in shot selection. Once we get a healthy roster, we will be fine. Oh also, Monta is shooting the ball way too much. 9-23. 23 shots? really? Way too many jumpers, needs to drive and kick more. IMO if he was to get traded it wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world.
by bayareaballa on Nov 18, 2009 11:15 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Missed the game and just now xchecked out the Box Score
The one thing that really struck me was that Curry and Morrow finally got to play real minutes together and it looks like Morrow did well. Is this accurate?
If Bochy coached the Warriors Bengie Molina would start every game at PG.
by cybermaldonado on Nov 18, 2009 12:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Also, why does Monta seem to get a ton of assists when he plays a lot of minutes with Curry? Some sort of competition maybe?
If Bochy coached the Warriors Bengie Molina would start every game at PG.
by cybermaldonado on Nov 18, 2009 12:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
this was a very interesting and fun game to watch. for starters to see the opening handshakes and see the body language and looks on the warriors faces. they looked like a weighed down and dejected group. game starts and they hit their first 5 shots and you could see a weight be lifted and almost like it sank in that the jackson drama was gone and they could just play. and what an effort they put in given the circumstances. another big plus was that it was great to see Randolph for the first time not look like he was in obvious pain due to the shoulder injury that he has had since the end of pre-season. you could see the frustration with him even though the effort has been there. they have had to limit his minutes because of the injury and the foul trouble. now that he is looking healthier, they will be able to start extending him more. and once Beidrins gets back they can extended him even more and get him back to starting like the initial plan was before the injury.
by dannyschmanny on Nov 18, 2009 12:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I don't how you guys are happy
I seriously don’t understand you guys, we LOST THE GAME, it doesn’t matter how we lost, a loss is a loss. If we only win 20 games, I am sure some of you will say well at least we put down some effort. Wow, seriously we need a change and we clearly need to move Ellis to improve this team.
I rather have two players averaging at least 12 pts a game with solid defensive capabilities than having Ellis. We need a big Shooting Guard since Bell is out for the season and strong Small Forward that can rebound, score and hold his own ground. I just think that a lineup with Curry and Ellis starting together would always result with us losing, we too small to defend, too weak and we lack the team defense required to overcome our weakness. We clearly need personal change. I would like to see AR start at the four position, give him the ball early in the game and he will play motivated the whole game instead of seeing him start playing in the fourth quarter. Hope Beans is back soon.
Suggestions
Ellis for Lee and Nate Robinson
Ellis for Mike Miller and McGee
Ellis for Josh Howard and Ross
Ellis for Camby and Butler
Ellis for Outlaw and Webster maybe add Howard then cut him to go back them
Ellis for Ginobili and Blair
All these options gives us a better lineup and more contribution then just one player who doesn’t fit playing with Curry. Curry is the future PG for this team, part ways with Ellis and get proven players in his place.
Waaaarroirs
by puffylove on Nov 18, 2009 1:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
WTF....
Monta is a proven player.
I guarantee he won’t leave for a while. He’s of to much value to all the fans in the Bay.
Also, we can win with a small lineup. We just need our bigs back so we can have a presence down low during games.
by Richboievans on Nov 18, 2009 1:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Hope to see you around in April especially if no changes takes place, oh wait, you will blame our loss cause we lost BW, Buike and Bell. We will lose even if we got our bigs back, the personal we got can’t compete with the high ranking team, we might compete with Kings, Memphis and other lousy teams but no way would we win 40 games with this roster. Period.
Waaaarroirs
by puffylove on Nov 18, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Did you even watch the game?
The Curry/Ellis backcourt looked pretty good defensively.
by WheresMyChippy on Nov 18, 2009 3:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else have trouble recording the game?
I haev AT&T Uverse and set the game to record. When I tried to play it back I got an error message. I recorded 3 hours of nothing.
by warriorsvictim on Nov 18, 2009 1:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
ya
i had the same problem kinda with comcast…just stops workin half way through
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
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by LostHawkGSW on Nov 18, 2009 3:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
IS IT NELLIE OR DON NELSON?
this has happened b4 with dallas and now with the warriors. we made the playoffs and beat dallas. the guys on the team were j richardson, b davis, al harrington, s jackson, matt barnes, bellini, mt. french.and chris mullin. non of these players are on the warriors. this was a playoff team.monta sees this and says im out of here. so my question is , don nelson or nellie doing this with upper management? the we believe t shirts are gonna say we dis believe or get nelson out of here!
finally i have direct tv and a dvr and no problems with taping the game or watching it!
by sports with steve on Nov 18, 2009 2:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

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