Monta Ellis and the Warriors Frustrated Brandon Roy and the Trail Blazers
Golden State Warriors roster Trail Blazers vs Warriors recap
The original article that I wrote can be found here Monta Ellis and the Warriors Frustrated Brandon Roy and the Trail Blazers.
Coming into tonight's game the Golden State Warriors had put up tremendous efforts against the Cleveland Cavaliers and the Boston Celtics. On most nights that kind of play would have gotten the Warriors a victory, but when facing two of the better teams in the East it's hard to come away with a victory especially with only playing eight players.
Flash forward to tonight's game and you saw an incredible effort by the Warriors. In the first quarter though it looked like the Portland Trail Blazers were going to take care of business.
One of those reasons was the size advantage that the Trail Blazers have on the Warriors and that showed in the first quarter. The Trail Blazers shot 68 percent in the first quarter and put up 37 points to the Warriors 29.
From the rest of the game it was all Warriors and Monta Ellis was the main reason why playing all 48 minutes scoring 34 points, 8 assists, 2 rebounds, 2 blocked shots, and 6 steals. It was Ellis's defense on Brandon Roy that was the most impressive aspect of his game.
Once of the best examples of how Ellis frustrated Roy is that he played physically but more importantly was that Ellis was able to stay in front of him. Ellis even was able to draw a charge on Roy just because Ellis was able to move his feet.
Looking at Roy's night he struggled going 6-17 from the field, with 17 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists, and a steal. Roy's frustration boiled over to the referees where he was assessed a technical foul.
Beyond that though in the second quarter the Warriors were able to get the Trail Blazers big men LaMarcus Aldridge and Greg Oden in foul trouble and with the two removed from the lineup until half time the Warriors took advantage.
This allowed the Warriors specifically with Ellis and Stephen Curry to attack the basket and either dish off to open teammates for layups or too Anthony Morrow knocking down threes.
As mentioned the Warriors defense came to play and held the Trail Blazers to just 15 points in the second quarter because of the defense the Warriors erased that eight point deficit taking a four point lead into half time.
Starting the third quarter for the Warriors was recently signed big man Chris Hunter from the D-League. He was the unsung hero of tonight's game while most of the credit will go to Ellis and Curry for their games, Hunter made a huge impact on the defensive end especially against Oden.
Hunter also made an impact on the offensive end hitting a nice little jumper on the wing and a nice little jumper in the lane. On the night he had four points, three rebounds, a block, and a steal.
Also, with Hunter you can see he knows how to play basketball. He didn't look nervous at all in fact he looked like he belonged out there. In essence he played under control.
With Randolph you see that he has a ton of energy, but rarely is Randolph ever under control. I believe with Hunter around you'll see Randolph develop into being a more controlled player.
Besides that you won't see in the boxscore is the fact that while he was on the offensive boards he was able to bother the Trail Blazers rebounders enough that they were not able to grab the board and instead the ball went out of bounds staying with the Warriors and earning them extra possessions.
As for the third quarter the Warriors were able to keep that same effort and were able to get the game to a double digit lead. The Blazers did answer with a few runs getting the game close within six points on a couple of occasions, but the Warriors were able to make plays, never allowing that lead to get under six after gaining the double digit advantage.
The play that Curry made to hit Anthony Morrow for a wide open three, which was buried. It was a fast break, Curry was able to get past the defender and see the open court. He had two options Anthony Randolph who was running towards the basket or Morrow on the same side of the court but just past the three point line.
Curry made the pass to Morrow and as soon as the shot was released you knew the ball was going in.
In the fourth quarter as mentioned before the Blazers did have opportunities to get the game within reach, but the Warriors made plays. One of those plays was Ellis's move on Roy which earned Ellis a three point play because Roy tried taking a charge, but was clearly moving.
That took the wind out of the Blazers sails and the Warriors pushed the lead up to 20. With just over two minutes remaining in the game, the Warriors had held the Blazers to only 11 points in the quarter.
At the end the Warriors got a little sloppy turning the ball over and missing shots, which allowed the Blazers to reach 19 points for the quarter. Even with that the Warriors were still able to keep the Blazers from scoring 100 points which is the first time all season the Warriors have been able to do that.
It was really hard to find anything negative to say about the effort of the Warriors tonight. The only thing I'd mention is Maggette needs to find the open man more. There was a possession in the game where Maggette took a difficult shot, but if he had looked he had Curry and Morrow with wide open looks for a three pointer.
One other note is the fact that hopefully Ronny Turiaf, C.J. Watson, and Andris Biedrins can come back soon because Morrow and Curry can't play 48 minutes a night and Curry won't be able to play 45 plus minutes a night either.
Overall this was clearly the best effort the Warriors have had so far this season, hopefully they can keep this kind of effort up!
This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!
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I’ve taken too many shots to read all those letters.
by insanenthemembrane on Nov 20, 2009 10:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Unless you're Steven Resnick, this is straight plagiarism
by IQofaWarrior on Nov 20, 2009 10:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
oh
then you should put your name in your profile somewhere. If it looked like plagiarism to me, it could look that way to a mod, too.
by IQofaWarrior on Nov 20, 2009 11:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Feel free to add a link...
in the main post to avoid confusion.
Thing 2
by olympicmike on Nov 20, 2009 11:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely!!!
I haven’t been feelin’ Monta lately becuase of his Lil b**th a** Jackson-esque attitude. But tonight he looked to me like a leader. He took control of the game when he needed to, always stayed looking for the open man, and the best part of all to me is that he looked liked he was haivng a good time and enjoying the company (Us the viewers, the crowd and his teammates) around him. Keep it up and I hope this leadership I se coming from him continues,
by GSW_GANSTA on Nov 20, 2009 10:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
April 1, 2009
Monta Ellis had 42 points, 9 rebounds and 9 assists in a 143-141 overtime win against the Kings. I think that was his best performance.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 20, 2009 11:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
That was his best performance offensively
I think tonight was his best all around performance
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by disguy on Nov 20, 2009 11:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Rebounding
That’s defense.
Also, that came in an overtime win.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 21, 2009 10:41 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
well if you put it that way
are you saying an OT win over the Kings is better than a decisive win over a playoff team?
by ceterisparibus on Nov 23, 2009 10:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe not trade Monta
LOL. I’m losing my mind with this team and with Monta. This past week, I have been saying “yeah, trade this guy too.” Now, I see he’s got the right attitude and more importantly, leading by example and being a true captain. He’s gotta play this way every game. I think he’s trying. He’s got to focus and keep his mouth shut. Listen to his coach and take everything in stride.
Confident Marco Belinelli supporter
by Doctor Kajita on Nov 20, 2009 11:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
The thing with Monta is...
If he wants to stay, then he can stay. If he wants out, then he should get out. Curry is the PG of the future, and Monta is showing that he is capable of defending 2’s to make this backcourt legit… Monta might end up being the go-to guy in the crunch, but for running the offense I prefer the ball to be in Curry’s hands.
by samuraaaaiiiiiii on Nov 20, 2009 11:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I actually prefer Ellis to have the ball
The reason being is that Ellis you have to respect his ability to finish at the rim, with Curry no so much.
by Rocky63215 on Nov 21, 2009 1:07 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
At least not yet.
Confident Marco Belinelli supporter
by Doctor Kajita on Nov 21, 2009 8:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
I think Curry can finish around the rim as good as the average guard. I’ve seen him finish very nicely.
Ellis is much better at it, and is one of the best at it that the NBA has ever seen. Curry is not bad at finishing around the rim though.
by freerandolph on Nov 21, 2009 10:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
A couple of observations
Hunter is great, we need to keep him. I mean I was there and people were going crazy for him. They wanted him to stay in and at one point Nellie had him and AR out there at the same time. Monta and Curry can work, they are really starting to get a good feel for each other. Lastly the team played much better when Maggs was out, Maggs played ok but I think it is worth noting. This is Monta’s team and tonight he showed it, everyone followed his lead and he was great. Monta can and will be and is our leader.
Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "You're a rookie"
by dubzfan on Nov 20, 2009 11:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Looks like he's earning respect back from W fans
Including me, but is this too little, too late?
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by ejdacanay on Nov 20, 2009 11:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
The only way that happens
Is if the Warriors trade him. Then you have to question was it just for show?
by Rocky63215 on Nov 20, 2009 11:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
but is this too little, too late?
No, still very early in the season. Us Warrior fans are conditioned for failure and a 3-8 start doesn’t help change that. But, we are very forgiving and like to go with the flow.
Go Warriors! Hopefully Monta will put his “soldiers” on his back and carry us to a better than expected season.
Confident Marco Belinelli supporter
by Doctor Kajita on Nov 20, 2009 11:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We need to use this game to get some momentum. It’d be good to at least be fighting for .500 rather than fighting to not be the 2nd worst team in the league.
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by Naticus2 on Nov 21, 2009 12:07 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
DFiB recently posted two pictures of Monta in a discussion on his quickness. Seams the bigger Monta does not get pushed around as much and he is developing an all around game on both sides of the ball. If he has lost a step he makes up for it in toughness and craftiness.
Curry looks like he belongs and if Ellis can hang with bigger 2s then our back court could be set for years to come.
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by qin on Nov 21, 2009 8:50 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Really good cover Steve. Rec'd.
It was really good to see the Warriors play well together as a team and I was happy with their defense effort.
There was one possession in the game when the Warriors were on defense and I was really impressed with Stephen Curry. He helped cover three Portland players with weakside help and double coverage. He was just all over the court and I loved to see it.
Although many argue that we should have drafted Brandon Jennings, I really wonder that if we did, would he tolerate Don Nelson’s mind games and would he even get along with Nellie? I would think most likely not with the swagger and pride Brandon holds.
The comparison between Stephen Curry and Brandon Jennings will always be there, (for me I still would favor Brandon Jennings as the better) but I really like what Curry has provided this team in all the games (including some clips of summer league) I have seen so far. He has the right attitude, is a very good facilitator, and seems to really put a high emphasis on playing defense. We all know this kid can score if requested to.
I feel like Curry is going to end up being a really good player like 5 years down the line and beyond. Plenty of upside for him. Keep it up Curry.
Before last night’s game, I was texting my friends that Chris Hunter would drop 20 points and grab 20 rebounds. Of course I was joking but I really hoped Hunter was going to get some run and I hoped he was going to be a very effective impact with our front court. He was and I hope he continues to get some run. I hope this is this case and I hope Turiaf doesn’t return until Nov. 28th. I want a 100% healthy Turiaf back. (same goes with Biedrins but it sounds like he may be out for awhile)
The true test with this Warriors team is when we host the Lakers next weekend. Can’t wait.
Go Warriors still.
Romes Mac Mojous
by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Nov 21, 2009 9:05 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
agree about Curry
while Jennings probably was (is) more NBA ready
Curry definitely more Nellie ready than anyone from last draft lottery
31 Y 6.5 ft 250 lbs 0 IQ
Fire Nellie! Fire Cohan! Fire Gregory! Fire David Stern! No need for explanations, just fire em all!
by Missing Barry
by Lat We N Trash on Nov 21, 2009 9:18 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ya. That's the key thing. Being "Nellie's guy". So dumb.
Regardless of all the stupid Nellie favoritism crap, I am happy we have Curry on our team. Especially how he has the best chemistry with A-Mo and AR(on & off the court), and now with Monta and him developing a good chemistry on the court.
Romes Mac Mojous
by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Nov 21, 2009 10:06 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good article – you should try being positive more often. :)
Seriously, it was a great game by the Warriors, I’’m happiest that after a complete performance like this from Monta, on both ends of the floor, hopefully it puts some of the ridiculous “Monta sucks, trade him now!” stuff to rest. Hunter was a nice development, he can provide mroe than Mikey Moore, that’s for sure.
I guess the only negative thing I have to say is Monta continues to back up my assertion that he looks half retarded dribbling with his left hand. Is anyone else noticing how bad he looks when they force him to use the pick and roll with his left hand? If he can’t bring it back to his right after 2 dribbles it really becomes apparent. The good news is all it takes is some hard work to improve this skill substantially…
by Missing Barry on Nov 21, 2009 9:23 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Also, hopefully this is a step in the right direction from Monta in terms of putting the past where it belongs – in the past, and moving on with the Warriors.
by Missing Barry on Nov 21, 2009 9:24 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ya. Good observation.
I love Monta’s game (he still is one of my favorite players on the team and I am also of the few that does not want to trade him), but his ball handling makes me nervous at times.
I notice he carries the ball a lot and some of those carries are the obvious ones when he carries the ball up over the height of his head.
Romes Mac Mojous
by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Nov 21, 2009 10:20 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I think how high he dribbles directly leads to his borderline carries. Not only does he need to be able to handle the ball primarily with his left hand (something he can’t do right now), he needs to work on getting his dribble lower.
by Missing Barry on Nov 21, 2009 10:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL yeah i was noticing that….he dribbles up to his shoulder on almost every dribble.
by Rob Kurz blocks Yao Ming on Nov 21, 2009 12:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Monta's
defense was impressive. That’s how you lead a young, undermanned, undersized, under-talented squad. Props to Monta – If he starts actually leading this team instead of saying “I’m the leader” then we have a shot at being respectable by the end of the year. All we ask for is professionalism – stop whining when you’re a millionaire.
BTW – I guess this game shows that Don Nelson can’t coach – right?
John 8:44 -Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.
by triplesix on Nov 21, 2009 10:03 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Not sure about the other Nellie Haters...
But for me I never said he can’t coach. He still has those wins under his belt and he did get those wins for a reason.
I just feel he is VERY OVERRATED as a coach and he never even made it to an NBA Finals so he shouldn’t EVEN be included with conversations of coaches like Phil Jackson, Greg Popovich, Jerry Sloan, Larry Brown, etc. Not even close.
Yes he deserves to be a Hall of Famer for his accomplishments But HAIL NO should he be considered one of the greatest coaches of all time.
All the speculations on him point in the direction of TRUE, but I don’t even want to get into that. I thank him for all the good things he has brought to the Warriors, but he needs to know when to leave and now is the time. History is repeating itself and it’s pissing a lot of fans off because although we don’t know the actual truth, we all can read between the lines and we know Nelson has been a big part of the break up of the We Believe team.
We have an over abundant supply of 6’3 point guards. Hmmmmm I wonder why??
It is so easy to give someone else the FULL blame and I’m sure Nellie loves every bit of it that all we can do is accuse and play the guessing game.
I give him credit for taking PART of coaching last night’s win, but his overall decisions as a coach still disturbs me.
Yes I shall bring back the past of 2007 against the Jazz where I blame him for not giving that team a proven reason of a loss. I still feel like we had a chance if Foyle and Josh Powell contributed even 10 minutes a game to the rotation. Ya we would have got killed by the Spurs but it seriously bothers me that putting in Foyle or Powell wasnt given a proven chance to be right or wrong.
Gaught. Whatever. Love nellie all you want. I’ll be waiting patiently for him to GET OUT AND STAY OUT. Don’t become our GM or I will be seriously PISSED OFF.
Moving on.
Go Warriors still.
Romes Mac Mojous
by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Nov 21, 2009 10:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Eh, it’s easy to say Nellie never reached the Finals – it’s just as easy to say he never had Jordan/Pippen, Shaq/Kobe, Stockton/Malone, Duncan/Robinson/Parker/Ginobili…the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.
I also don’t think it’s fair to criticize Nellie for our roster construction. Maybe some of its his influence, but we have been adding big men every year since he got here…I also think we had no chance against the Jazz. As good a matchup as the Mavs were for the Warriors, the Jazz were equally bad. Their front line is just so big, there wasn’t much we were going to do. And any help that Foyle or Powell would have given us they would have easily given back by being not very good at anything else….
by Missing Barry on Nov 21, 2009 11:25 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You said...
it’s just as easy to say he never had Jordan/Pippen, Shaq/Kobe, Stockton/Malone, Duncan/Robinson/Parker/Ginobili
I can easily say that Jordan would have thought he was an idiot and got him fired, Shaq & Kobe would have thought he was an idiot and got him fired, everybody else I’m not sure what they would have done. I know they would have been unhappy having Nelson as their coach.
And any help that Foyle or Powell would have given us they would have easily given back by being not very good at anything else….
I am fine with your argument there. My biggest issue is “prove it to me”. Make me moded for thinking this way.
Just as a lot of people say Belinelli sucks. or Ike Diogu is a bust. blah blah. Give me 15 years in the league of mediocre play as opposed to Nellie’s 30 years or so of coaching and you have a valid point.
Romes Mac Mojous
by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Nov 21, 2009 11:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think I was fair in the first point – I acknowledged that the “great player” thing probably isn’t the whole story, but it certainly is a significant factor. I’m not sure how you “know they would have been unhappy with Nellie as their coach”? Even taking it less literally – you suspect, based on Nellie’s history, that they wouldn’t have gotten along or something. I’m not sure why you think this, and why so strongly? What players have ever thought Nelson was an idiot and gotten him fired? Obviously the Webber thing sucked, but other than that…?
As for your last point – fair question. Foyle – he can block some shots, not a bad post defender, not a great rebounder but an acceptable one for sure. Also terrible offensively. Never even averaged double digit points per 36 minutes a single time in his whole career. Under 1 assist per 36 for his career. Awful shooting efficiency. Foyle just doens’t provide much overall as a player. Even with Foyle in (I’m assuming he would guard Boozer?), you’ve still got Kirilenko and Okur to worry about – both tough matchups for the Warriors. Powell is basically the exact same, except he doesn’t even block shots or rebound as well. Little bit better on offense, overall, just not much of a player. They would not have made a difference for us. As a team, they were just too big (and too built around their size) for us to match up with.
by Missing Barry on Nov 21, 2009 12:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You're right.
I don’t know for sure they would be unhappy. These are just opinions of what I suspect.
The thing is, Don Nelson has a power trip. Don Nelson coaches by leaving grey areas and playing mind games. This is where I feel Michael Jordan wouldn’t take his crap and demanded he get fired.
Kobe or Shaq would be the same.
For the record, the Webber deal was the only player that got him fired. My question is this. If Nellie apologists want to favor him as the good guy and every body else just has attitude problems, why is there such a long list of players who have had issues with him? I could understand if it were 2 or 3 players in his career, but the list goes on and on with players he just couldn’t get along with.
Ike Diogu, Adonal Foyle, Troy Murphy, Baron Davis, Monta Ellis, Stephen Jackson, Al Harrington, Jamal Crawford, Pietrus, Marco Belinelli, Chris Mullin and yes…J-Rich. (there might be more, just cant think of any right now.)
I am sure there was a lot of drama between Don and J-Rich (just as Jamal did) that didn’t go public. J-Rich has class and is very professional. So does Jamal. So does Chris Mullin. I could recall that after a game in the 2006, J-Rich had some words with Don Nelson and just walked away pissed off. It was just his body language that I sensed something wasn’t right.
But its cool man. If you love Nellie. Go ahead. Love him. I don’t need to convince you to dislike him. This is just what I feel and observe, and if I were the Warriors Owner or GM, I sure as hail wouldn’t get rid of star-potential or very good players just to keep Don Nelson on our team. It’s just idiotic to me.
As a team, they were just too big (and too built around their size) for us to match up with.
You are absolutely right with that. It just goes back to my point in “Prove me wrong” for my outlandish thinking. We had 7 players running out of gas. Even if Foyle or Powell sucked caca in there, all I was asking of Nellie was to put them in for 10 minutes to the least to give our studs of the team a breather. To give them fresher legs and extra stamina.
It just bothers me how Nellie absolutely needs his bigs to be able to run the floor. Why the hail for? That’s what Baron is for. That’s what the PG does. Every player has different skill sets and strengths. Nellie ignores that if a certain player doesn’t meet his criteria.
Blah. whatever. In Don Nelson we trust. Yay.
Romes Mac Mojous
by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Nov 21, 2009 2:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Even if Foyle or Powell sucked caca in there, all I was asking of Nellie was to put them in for 10 minutes to the least to give our studs of the team a breather.
For sure, and he shoulda been doing it all season to strengthen the team so it would be better able to match up with the utah’s of the league. Nellie is just too inflexible to get the most out of players that don’t suit his narrow ideas.
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Standing on the moon
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Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
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At this crescent in the sky
by Skeptic con Urquell on Nov 21, 2009 3:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not trying to argue a Nellis is infallible type thing, here, I just think these specific points are a bit embellished. Play long enough for a coach and you’re going to have disagreements, it happens. Phil Jackson has had disagreements with players, too, including guys like Kobe and Shaq. I think you’re just pointing to little things (in everyones case except Webber, basically) that aren’t that uncommon across all coaches. Sometimes a coach, like a parent, has to give tough love and the person they’re trying to make better for it won’t like it – so what, the point isn’t to be buddies, it’s to make the person better at whatever the issue is.
I sure as hail wouldn’t get rid of star-potential or very good players just to keep Don Nelson on our team.
No disagreement there, I’m still bitter the choice was to get rid of Webber to keep Nelson (but then get rid of Nelson shortly after). You build around Webber, if something goes wrong with the coach – you have to keep the talent around.
by Missing Barry on Nov 21, 2009 3:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with:
Play long enough for a coach and you’re going to have disagreements, it happens
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Here’s the thing. When typical disagreements happen with coach and players, they learn to squash it and the coach should point out the reasons why he was hard on the player, which is usually to better the player. My speculation is Don Nelson has a power trip because the players who he usually has disagreements with usually end up leaving the team. The worst part of it is when these players are key pieces to this Warriors Team.
Has Kobe left the team because of Phil Jackson? Has Tony Parker left the Spurs because of Greg Popovich? Deron Williams leave the Jazz because of Jerry Sloan?
My point is these coaches work with their players to help better the player for their benefit.
Romes Mac Mojous
by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Nov 21, 2009 4:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the players who he usually has disagreements with usually end up leaving the team
This is where my disagreement is, who are all these players leaving the team? Someone like Baron left, sure, but does that have anything to do with Nelson? Probably not, after all, he did sign an extension (which was nixed by ownership). Jack is gone now, but was it because of disagreements with the coach? No. Webber is the only player this really applies to, that I can see…
by Missing Barry on Nov 22, 2009 10:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
nellie's a loser
and you conveniently neglected to mention harrington, jrich, askew, ellie, sarunas (none were stars but that was not a criterion in this argument).
by nelliehater on Nov 26, 2009 3:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
undersized? yes…..undermanned? yes…. undertalented? Hell NO!
by crab dribble cocktail on Nov 21, 2009 10:20 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Warriors vs Blazers
That was a great game.
Chris the Hunter – comes from the D-League and makes a big impact. His stats weren’t impressive, but he provided a presence and helped stopped Greg Oden (Randolph was getting killed).
Monta Ellis – was great.I saw some ball movement and finding open teammates. He played excellent defense on Brandon Roy and scored a lot of points. He did a lot for the Warriors, hope he keeps doing well. He still needs to get his efficiency up since he takes a lot of shots, but overall, great performance.
Stephen Curry – had a great game also. I saw A LOT of ball movement and sick assists. I still think he needs to take more shots and hopefully he does in the future. You can tell by the game that Stephen Curry is growing up and developing as a true PG.
Anthony Rudolf – Randolph grabbed a lot of rebounds and stayed inside the paint a lot. His dunks were amazing (the super dunk in the 2nd? quarter) and the hustling was there too
Anthony Morrow – this was his best game. He helped the Warriors win the game with his sharp shooting. He seemed confident this game and he rebounded well also.
Corey Maggette – did well as the PF. He got Oden and Aldridge in foul trouble, good stuff.
To me, this is the W’s best game, better than the T-Wolve’s game. I think without Jackson, these guys are doing better and starting to have more chemistry (no offense to Sjax).
by DubsFan408 on Nov 21, 2009 11:18 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Randolph was doing well fronting Oden, actually. He was having more trouble on offense, getting stuffed and losing the ball. I liked his hustle, though.
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by Naticus2 on Nov 21, 2009 4:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Randolph was doing well fronting Oden, actually.
Not in the first quarter. He had no vision on the ball, and he got caught halfway a couple times trying to get around the big man at the wrong time, only to find himself on his hip and sealed out of position with no play on the ball.
To his credit, he did a better job keeping vision on the ball later in the game, and that helped him to be more effective. But early on he was getting killed. The best thing he did against Oden IMO was drive at him on offense and help to get him in foul trouble actually.
Thing 2
by olympicmike on Nov 21, 2009 4:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ellis got Oden in foul trouble in 5 seconds.
Maggette only got Aldridge in trouble
by Am22mO on Nov 21, 2009 4:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Here's the problems as I see it.
Monta obviously functions by feeding off direct competition. I doubt he was playing defense against Roy to be a leader. Rather, Ellis played great D against Roy because he wanted to outplay Roy. Will Monta play with the same intensity against lesser players whom he’s asked to guard?
Another interesting result of Monta’s competitiveness: he seems to be in competition against Curry sometimes as to who is the better PG. When Curry gets a lot of assists so does Ellis.
Also – I’ve said this before – it’s easy to be a leader when things are going good. I want to see Monta be a leader when everything is going bad…
If Bochy coached the Warriors Bengie Molina would start every game at PG.
by cybermaldonado on Nov 22, 2009 7:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Will Monta play with the same intensity against lesser players whom he’s asked to guard?
It’s called stepping up to the competition. He dominated Brandon Roy. Straight up. Even had the coach calling off double teams. I don’t care who you are but that’s impressive.
When Curry gets a lot of assists so does Ellis.
Umm… the reverse is also true. Maybe Curry is competing with Ellis. Either way, we get more assists and more teamwork. So, what, exactly, is the problem? And seriously, the guy took 28 shots and got to the line a few times as well.
I want to see Monta be a leader when everything is going bad
What part of this season hasn’t been bad? I don’t understand your comment at all. Did Monta turn on his game after we started coasting? (Hint: We were never really coasting) You seem to be saying: “It’s easy to look good in a win. It’s easy to be a leader in a win.” But when you create that win off your own play, you’ve made it look easy by doing something hard: Singlehandedly dominating an all star on both ends of the court.
So, if we’d lost, Monta’s overall and defensive efforts would have been lessened somehow? You think his “leadership” would have been more meaningful if the team had lost instead of won? Please. Monta went out on the court before that game in the middle of the current dismal Warriors season, after they’d shipped out his best buddy for cap space. What’d he do? He submitted his best defensive effort, one of his better floor games, and his best scoring effort in the team’s first win against a good team. And you want to discount this? Seriously, there are plenty of things that Monta does not do well. This game is evidence of something good.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Nov 23, 2009 1:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
glad you two agree
I’m not rooting against Monta just pointing out truths.
Will Monta play with the same intensity against lesser players whom he’s asked to guard?
It’s called stepping up to the competition.
It’s actually called “stepping up to outplay the superstar competition”. That’s a good thing. But, Monta won’t be playing against superstars everyday and has to show that he can bring defensive intensity even against lesser players.
What part of this season hasn’t been bad? I don’t understand your comment at all.
Of course. But Monta wasn’t the team leader until Jack got shipped. Monta has been showing good leadership for how long? 3 games? Give the guy a chance to settle into the role for a while before you all start judging him.
When Curry gets a lot of assists so does Ellis.Umm… the reverse is also true. Maybe Curry is competing with Ellis. Either way, we get more assists and more teamwork. So, what, exactly, is the problem? And seriously, the guy took 28 shots and got to the line a few times as well.
Quite simply, no. Curry has shown a willingness to look assist first since he joined the team. Ellis has not other than on occasions which often happen to fall on the same days as when Curry is dishing nicely. I never said I had a problem with Ellis getting assists: that’s a rather strange notion.
If Bochy coached the Warriors Bengie Molina would start every game at PG.
by cybermaldonado on Nov 24, 2009 5:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But Monta wasn’t the team leader until Jack got shipped
Wrong. Jax was still around for the “Monta, sit down” episode. Monta was given the role of a captain. Monta has been trying to be a leader the whole year. Just because Jax was around doesn’t mean Monta wasn’t a leader.
The Monta/Curry comparison is stupid, and my comment there was a little tongue in cheek. They’re both players on the same team who have the ball in their hands a lot. If you’re taking 28 shots, you better have plenty of assists or you’re really hogging the ball. Monta may not have the court vision, but he’s got the ball in his hands a lot (as evidenced by tonights 29 shots, 8 assists, and 11 turnovers). He’ll pick up the assists as long as that’s the case. My point is that he’s not competing with Curry.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Nov 24, 2009 9:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I could be the best defender in the league if I was allowed to hack people all night while holding their arms on every possession like monta was able to get away with. Disgusting that you think that was good defense. I guess thats what passes for shut down D on a team like this. Enjoy your gimmick, flopping, hacking win, as well as the lottery for the next 10 years
by Truth. on Nov 24, 2009 2:42 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Love the picture! That's what most Trail Blazers fans are....
by Rocky63215 on Nov 24, 2009 8:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Toothless?
"Oden is a man among cub scouts."
by Tyrusmancrush on Nov 23, 2009 9:08 PM PST
by Sabonis4Ever on Nov 26, 2009 11:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I could be the best defender in the league if I was allowed to hack people all night while holding their arms on every possession like monta was able to get away with.
For some reason, i don’t even believe you could be…
by Missing Barry on Nov 24, 2009 7:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
I have to admit, I’m kinda curious what kind of person would root for a good team and go out of his way to visit the fans of a sad, pathetic team and attempt to begrudge them of their first tiny morsel of happiness in ages. Somewhere between a scrooge, a douche, a tool? A “Scrouchetool”?
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Nov 24, 2009 5:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Touchooge?
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Nov 24, 2009 9:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I feel like a Spurs fan
Having our opponents’ bloggers complain about holding and getting away with stuff.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Nov 24, 2009 11:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Having our opponents’ bloggers complain about holding and getting away with stuff.
Haha, It might have just been the NBA wanting to prolong the portland oracle curse? Now more folks will tune in next year. Wait till we play somewhere else with different refs before celebrating the new defensive era. I kinda doubt that Montay got that much better and ROY that much worse overnight?
Standing on the moon
Where talk is cheap and vision true
Standing on the moon
But I would rather be with you
Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky
by Skeptic con Urquell on Nov 24, 2009 12:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The difference between Roy and Ellis
Ellis is tough he will take a hit and attack the rim. Roy is much better at getting to a spot and pulling up. On occasion Roy will drive and make a great move, but it’s not on a consistent basis.
by Rocky63215 on Nov 24, 2009 8:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Roy is much better at getting to a spot and pulling up.
I know a guy, circa Feb-April 2007/2008 that’ll have a few words with you on that comparison. Hopefully he gets that deadly jumper back…
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Nov 24, 2009 9:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thats why Roy has the 10th most freethrows in the NBA this season
Most in the 4th quarter.
"Oden is a man among cub scouts."
by Tyrusmancrush on Nov 23, 2009 9:08 PM PST
by Sabonis4Ever on Nov 26, 2009 11:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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