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The Warriors have found the big man they've always wanted.

Chris Hunter, formerly of the D-league as of earlier yesterday afternoon, started the second half of the Warriors win over the Portland Trailblazers and shutdown Greg Oden.  This definitely secured the win as without Hunter's defensive presence in the paint, the Warriors might have been down by as many as a dozen or more like the first quarter where Oden dominated and helped the Trailblazers race out to an early lead. 

The Warriors haven't had this stellar of a debut by a big man since Marc Jackson, jokes Atma Brother #1.

Hunter's defensive presence, however, reflected a larger team effort from the whole dubs squad where defense might have been as important, for once, as scoring.

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Chris Hunter is now part of a proud line of D-league studs that have found their roots in the NBA through the Golden State Warriors academy of basketball.   Like those before him, Hunter shows a surprisingly steady game and solid fundamentals.  The Warriors, surprisingly, ran an isolation for him against Oden, which he hit an open jumper on his first shot attempt, a fadeaway over Oden's Mr. Fantastic stretched arms.  He then hit a cutting Curry with a nice bounce pass into the lane which led to a wide open jumper in the corner by Morrow.  Within his first 6 minutes of playing, you would have thought this guy had been playing with the Warriors for a while.  Or maybe this is really suggestive of how skimpy the Warriors playbook is?  At any rate, I'm seeing some nice things from this University of Michigan alum.  This might be might be the proudest I've ever been for that school, which I and R.Dizzle currently attend.

Anyway, our new #31 is a far cry from our old #31.

But things weren't looking that great.  From jump, I thought this game was about to be a disaster.  Maybe it was ominous clouds and stormy weather all day.  But before tip-off, things already didn't feel right.  Usually, coming to the Oracle Arena is equivalent to hitting up the hottest club in the east bay.  Good looking women decked out in the voluntary dress code of Warriors gear, fly sneakers or heels, and a beer.  The quality that we're used to was not quite there...yet.  Oh yea, and then there was that Greg Oden guy too.


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Anthony Randolph looked completely helpless against him on defense.  Steve Blake was even tearing into the Warriors, backing down Curry repeatedly on the block or shooting over him. 


As if this wasn't insulting enough, the Dreyers ice cream up in club 200 cost $6.00 a cup.  That's exactly two times the price of the Loards ice cream across the street from my house.  The ice cream was good, but this was just reflective of all the ugliess at the Oracle - on and off the court.  Damn you Cohan.

Luckily, things changed quickly in the second quarter.  Oden in foul trouble paved the way for the Warriors to, intelligently, attack the basket.  Monta Ellis did what he does amazingly, which is getting to the hoop.  Stephen Curry did what Warriors SHOULD do more often, which is getting Anthony Morrow involved the best way Morrow knows how: hitting open jumpers.  The steady balance of inside outside definitely kept the Warriors in the game during the second half.

You know who also kept us fans in the game?  The Warriors Girls.  Susan Hovey (choreographer and dance director) looks like she's assembled the best line-up since 2003-2004. The WG's rockin' their white-on-white booty shorts and crop top/sports bra get-up was a nice touch.  Susan Hovey is finally promising us what she originally came here to do: establish more "Pussycat Dolls" type entertainment.  The cheering stinky dudes sitting dudes next to me hogging the arm rests wildly cheering attests to the fan appreciation of Hovey's efforts on her end (Riley could learn a thing or two).  Also, yesterday was Hovey's birthday, so everyone please wish her a happy birthday if you can via GSoM. 

But it seemed that the Warriors last night lived and died by Dennis Rodman's wise words from Double Team: "Offense gets the glory, but defense wins the games."  As awesome as Monta's and Morrow's offensive stats looked last night, it was really the collective hustle on the boards (sans Oden on the floor), smart help defensive by Vladimir Radmanovic, and Monta's man-to-man defense on Brandon Roy that helped seal this victory.  Radman was all over the place on defense, but not like Randolph (we'll get to that in a second).  You could see him doubling down in the paint when necessary.  He was often the first person to try to defend a wide open man.  He was even crashing the boards when Randolph struggled to get position against Pryzbilla.   The best thing about Radman?  He shot .500 and not one of those attempts was a 3-pointer.  Talk about efficiency. 

Maybe playing with Kobe back in the day actually paid off?

As the second quarter came to an end and the Warriors raced out to a short lead, Oracle started looking like the hot spot for good looking people that I always knew it to be.  Maybe they showed up late.  Or maybe I was just in a better mood.

Anyways, the third quarter featured Hunter and his ability to contain and frustrate Oden in ways that Randolph and MIKEY clearly weren't able to, which proved to be the difference maker, in my opinion. 


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Monta showed me (and Atma) a defensive side of him that he wants everyone to know. He clearly put his back into it for once -- a new defensive stance perhaps?  Of course, in the process, he manages to publicly and passive aggressively diss his teammates:

"It definitely gets overlooked," Ellis said. "I hear people say Monta can't play defense, but if you go back and look at the tapes, you don't see Monta getting burned. I can do that day-in and day-out." (Yahoo! recap)

We would like to see that.  And more of that impressive court awareness that led to 6 steals, several off intercepted passes either cross court or on the break. 

But sometimes I can't tell whether Monta's offensive dominance just means he's a glorified Ben Gordon.  Meaning, a lot of times it just looks like Monta has some major tunnel vision and already knows he's going to shoot it before he even gets the ball.  Monta's game has grown a bit on both ends of the floor, and I wonder if there is more to come as the season progresses. 

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And Hunter's ability to play steadily clearly highlights Randolph's inefficiencies and mental lapses as a young player.  His two offensive fouls calls on wild drive to the hoop don't quite capture the problems of his game like when he battled Stephen Curry for a rebound to the point that he knocked the ball out of bounds off of Curry.  After a tremendous defensive effort by Randolph to prevent the Blazers' second chance points, which had hounded him throughout the first half, Randolph managed to tap the ball out away from his opponents.  You have to love his hustle to try to corral the ball in.  But plays that make you groan and wonder if this kid will get it together or if he's just regressing into bad habits.  I won't get into it much more, but Hunter's 2-2 from the field reminds you, or possibly makes you want to forget, Randolph's 4 bricks all within half a foot from the basket.  This guy needs to learn some tips on how to finish in the paint, quickly.

The Warriors lead hit twenty deep into fourth quarter and when the buzzer rang, you would have thought the Warriors just won the championship with the confetti falling from the sky.  Why make the janitors' job more difficult?


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Tonight's Warrior Wonder has to go to Chris Hunter.  While the obvious choice is probably Monta or Morrow, I chose Hunter based off his ability to step in and make a difference instantly in his limited minutes.  He was so good that the crowd gave him a standing ovation.  Can we expect him to start the next game?  

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Warrior Wonder

Clearly, Mikki Moore was overlooked with him contributing four assists and three fouls in five minutes of action.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 21, 2009 10:40 AM PST reply actions  

plus he raised our dreds-to heads ratio exponentially

Play hard, then rock out even harder.

by TheBigLeburnski on Nov 21, 2009 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Biggest reason we’re missing Turiaf.

by Missing Barry on Nov 21, 2009 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Great win

Hunter was good, lets keep him.

Radman will only get better in our system as he learns it better. Plus he’ll have good chemistry with Turiaf since they were teammates two years ago.

Ball movement is excellent without Jackson. Trading him away really WAS addition by subtraction.

Overall, while the team still has a long way to go, this win was a big step in a great direction. :)

by ryogahibiki on Nov 21, 2009 10:49 AM PST reply actions  

Bottom Line: The Trend Continued.

Curry played well and the Warriors followed suit. As goes Curry, so goes the Warriors.

If Bochy coached the Warriors Bengie Molina would start every game at PG.

by cybermaldonado on Nov 21, 2009 10:54 AM PST reply actions  

turnovers were down too

I think AR had the most, but that is expected. He needs to work on that

by mosdl on Nov 21, 2009 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

+1

ADDITION BY SUBTRACTION

by GSW_GANSTA on Nov 21, 2009 10:54 AM PST reply actions  

What is the timeline...

On Beans and Turiaf’s return? Does Anybody know?

by GSW_GANSTA on Nov 21, 2009 10:56 AM PST reply actions  

Biedrins and Turiaf

Biedrins will be reevaluated on Monday and Turiaf is day-to-day.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 21, 2009 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

For what it's worth

Beans talked to a friend of mine last week, and he said he would be fine after the 10 days elapsed. But that was just his opinion, not the medical folks.

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by worldblee on Nov 21, 2009 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Playing like a team again.

Monta and Curry with 8 assists a piece is a beautiful thing.

by Run Dubz on Nov 21, 2009 10:57 AM PST reply actions  

Keep the stud

They gotta figure a way to keep Hunter.

by John Will on Nov 21, 2009 11:19 AM PST reply actions  

Monta's a beast

I don’t know why you guys over exaggerate his “attitude problems”.

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by Precise Films Productions on Nov 21, 2009 11:36 AM PST reply actions  

er because he has them....

We just got rid of a cancer that seemed to have the largest “attitude problem” of personal greatness….and we are now playing considerably better basketball as a result…

Monta has a key decision right now to make…. join these guys and become part of a new team of guys that have great chemistry… or…

Keep pointing out to everyone how great you think you are….a classic example is his quote that he can play that style of defense all day long….

My answer would be…. “well where the hell has it been for the last 18 months (injury notwithstanding)” ….

A little more “humble” is what young Ellis needs to become and to embrace the concept of “team” rather than “I”… there have been some nasty “Jacksonesque” marks left on Monta and now it is time for him to decide whether to be the man we all “hope” he is…rather than the self opinionated a$$ we all “fear” he might be/become….

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by BritWarriorGSW on Nov 21, 2009 11:44 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Keep pointing out to everyone how great you think you are…

Worked for the greatest player ever to play the game. He kept pointing it out to the “doubters” up until his HoF induction ceremony earlier this year… just sayin’.

I still don’t get how he dissed his teammates in that comment after the game. He’s just dissing people who’ve bashed his for his defense. If anything, it’s bashing the coach who has never put any emphasis on defense. Regardless, I’m glad to see that people bashing him for defense has made him express his frustration/anger in this way… by improving his defense.

Roy is exactly the litmus test we’re looking for right now. He’s a little bigger than Monta, he’s a cross between a 1 and a 2, and he’s a semi-star. If Monta can frustrate Roy (6’6", 211) to that level, he is be capable of playing the 2 defensively. Sure, K-Mart will still probably own him, but there are bad matchups for everyone. If he can hold his own against the Brandon Roy’s of the NBA, he’ll be alright. Especially once he gets his jumper back (not expecting Feb 2008 every time, just maybe halfway between that and where it’s at now).

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by Dubs fan in Boston on Nov 23, 2009 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Well we did pay the guy 66m...

We can’t have our franchise player “wanting out” and not wanting to step up.
I guess since Jackson left,Monta has changed his attitude because now he’ll be the man.

by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Nov 21, 2009 12:01 PM PST reply actions  

monta was clearly the WW

He played the best all-around game of his career against one of the top players in the league.

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by LostHawkGSW on Nov 21, 2009 12:20 PM PST reply actions  

+10000

Hunter was awesome, and his arrival was perfectly timed against the big bad Blazers, but Monta won this game. He doubled up Roy, played 48 minutes, and hit some key jumpers at the midway mark in the 4th to seal the win. This is the first time in his career that I have seen him go toe to toe with a bona fide stud like BR and get the best of him on both ends of the floor. I would go so far as to say this was the best game of his career and possibly the turning point at which he becomes The Man. On a side note, can we all take a moment of silence to reflect and enjoy the fact that Stephen Jackson is a Charlotte Bobcat? They scored 68 points last night against the Bucks! Bwahahahaha!!!!

Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!

by Supafishal on Nov 21, 2009 1:37 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Completely unexpected, decisive win

The storyline was that the Blazers hadn’t won in Oakland in 8 straight games. With only 8 players available, one who was still somewhat new to the team (Radman) and one who just arrived from the D League (Hunter), you’d think we had no shot. And it sure looked that way after the 1st qtr when we played at their pace. After Nellie chewed them out at the end of the 1st qtr, the Warriors started to run, but the Blazers kept fouling in the 2nd qtr and killing the fast break. I guess they ran out of fouls or something because they stopped fouling while we kept running. That led to a 17-2 run late in the 2nd qtr, with an Anthony Morrow 3 that gave us the lead that we never let go. A 15-3 run in the 4th pushed the lead up to 20 and sealed the game.

It looked like overall, our smaller quicker guys befuddled the Blazers and took them out of rhythm. They had no idea where to go with the ball, they fumbled it, they couldn’t hit their shots. So, make that 9 wins in a row vs the Blazers in Oakland.

Monta’s defense was amazing last night. He was quick in staying in front of his man, he held his ground, and forced his man into tougher shots. I think his man was Roy most of the night. His defensive performance was capped off with a terrific steal of Roy that left Roy sprawled on the floor. He was so good against Roy, Nellie actually called off the double team on Roy. That speaks volumes on Monta’s defense last night.

Welcome to the NBA and the Warriors, Chris Hunter. Your first task, guard that large man, Greg Oden. He looked pretty good for his first day on the job. He managed to slow down Oden, calmly hit a couple of shots, and looked like he understood what was going on. It’s certainly the opposite of Randolph, who often times looked lost and out of control. Of course, Hunter is 25, so he has the benefit of having more maturity and experience. We picked him up just in time, too. Moore had ZERO CHANCE of stopping Oden.

Speaking of Randolph, once again, he showed that he may have athleticism, his brain is still in development. He looks good when the play requires hustle, like fighting for rebounds or trailing a fast break. But when the play slows down and he has to think, forget about it. I can remember 2 out of control drives that resulted in a charge or a turnover, and 1 dumb foul when Oden had a point blank dunk, resulting in the 3 point play. AR still needs lots of refinement, especially when you see the way Hunter plays.

Great to see Morrow go off. I think this was because the game was much faster, so he had easier shots in transition before the defense set in. Hmm, turns out Maggette was playing through a sore hamstring. Well, we didn’t need him to be heroic tonight. Still a little sloppy in the end after going up 20, but we kept defending to the end.

by IQofaWarrior on Nov 21, 2009 12:31 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Good recap

Monta had an outstanding floor game, Chris Hunter looks like a nice find (seems to know his stuff, calm on the floor, hit his jump shots, played some D), and the Warriors moved the ball well. It helps not having a black hole on the floor, and the rest of the team works harder knowing that Jax is not always going to be the one taking the shot. And there’s more room for Monta to do what he does. AR’s game is still extremely raw—more so than you’d expect for a second year pro, even if he is only 20.

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by worldblee on Nov 21, 2009 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Reconsider Warrior Wonder award?

Monta was even better than the old Monta against Portland. He was signing autographs. His body language and commitment to lead was evident. The admiration of Hunter is a nice side story, but Monta put our future on his back last night.

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by eshock on Nov 21, 2009 12:39 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah, but it’s easy to be a leader after a great win. I want to see him lead when things are going bad.

If Bochy coached the Warriors Bengie Molina would start every game at PG.

by cybermaldonado on Nov 21, 2009 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

No offense

but Nelson starting Hunter in the second half was genius. As much as I like Randolph he is so frustrating with missed layups and running into the chest of defenders. Stay within yourself young man!!

Goes without saying that this is the best the Warriors have looked this year. How does that happen when you supposedly trade your best player?

John 8:44 -Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.

by triplesix on Nov 21, 2009 12:52 PM PST reply actions  

I have a sense that Hunter’s arrival might be good for AR in that it could take a lot of pressure off of him to perform like a veteran and guard guys like Oden. Now the question us whether Nellie will play them together. We can only hope…

Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!

by Supafishal on Nov 21, 2009 1:43 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Nelson starting Hunter in the second half was genius.

Yep. You have to give credit where it’s due. As much as it has seemed like he’s mailing it in for much of the season, the guy still has a brilliant strategic mind when it comes to basketball. I’m just not sure if he’s motivated to continue to coach as well as we know he can. The guy just looks worn out to me.

Thing 2

by olympicmike on Nov 21, 2009 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I was wondering how his coaching would change did with the removal of Jack. Nellie had basically been using Jack as a proxy coach on the floor, hoping he’d steer the boat on both offense and defense. It was lazy, and stupid, to boot… Jack’s not that level of player, nor that level of leader. We’re past that dark chapter now, thankfully. With Jack gone, Nellie has no excuses; now he has to actually coach this team.

Thus far, I’d say the results are somewhat heartening. Injuries have made it hard to tell what substitutions he’s making out of strategy as opposed to necessity, but there has been more evidence of an attempt to strategize, with some double-teams and some adaptations to what our opponents’ strengths are. To me, the best thing about last night wasn’t that Nellie played Hunter, as Nellie is always going to bat around a new shiny toy for awhile… the best thing was that Nellie didn’t go back to Mikki. Giving big minutes to a crappy veteran no matter how much he’s hurting you is the kind of rote, lazy coaching Nellie did last year (see Crawford, Jamal). Last night, Nellie realized Mikki wasn’t an asset and pulled him. There’s nothing ingenious about realizing Mikki Moore sucks, but it’s progress.

Having said that, I think it could still go either way… Nellie could get excited about this young roster and really start putting energy into coaching again, but he could also continue to mail it in as he’s generally been doing since Baron left. And if I had to guess, I’d still guess the latter. You never get the feeling that Nellie has a spark in his eye when he talks about this team… he just doesn’t seem all that enamored with many of his best pieces (Monta, Maggette, Randolph, Biedrins). The two guys he seems most excited about are Curry and Morrow, and a breakout game from Curry or monster night from Morrow might get his juices flowing a little. But really, Nellie just seems bored by this team. Most of his substitions and lineups seem more like attempts to shake things up for the hell of it than real thought-out strategic decisions. It’s kind of hard to see what would shake him out of that.

So yeah, I’m not too optimistic… I’d still be pretty happy to see Smart take over and have the Nellie baggage disappear. But the last four games have seen Nellie’s best and most energetic coaching of the season. It’s still not all that good or all that energetic, but it’s something.

by onlxn on Nov 21, 2009 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

now he has to actually coach this team.

As much criticism as he gets – I think this is exactly what Nelson wants to do. I think it’s why he plays players that he knows are unproven (read D-leaguers) – their NBA careers/playing time depends on how well they listen to him. With the primadonna millionaires (and some first round draft picks) – they don’t have to listen to him and he loses patience with them. I have never believed that Don Nelson has an evil plan to destroy teams or ostracize rookies – he is just old school and if they won’t listen then he stops talking to them or in a rookies case won’t play them. No coincidence that all of a sudden Nellie is having problems with Monta – Monta just got paid and doesn’t have to do what Don says any more. In fact Monta said as much during their tiff.

I believe Don has said that so far this year “this team is proving very difficult to coach.”

John 8:44 -Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.

by triplesix on Nov 21, 2009 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

The idea that he’s just “old school” doesn’t account for his issues with Webber, let alone Monta. Is Nellie the only coach in the league who has to handle millionaire prima donnas? No. Is Nellie the only coach in the league who has abdicated half of his professional responsibilities? Yes. Is Nellie the only coach in the league who has an assistant lead timeouts and sometimes entire games, rather than do it himself? Yes. Is Nellie the only coach in the league who is rumored to play Frisbee with his dog while the team practices? Yes.

I’m sure that it’s difficult for coaches to get players to listen to them. But Scott Skiles has that problem, Erik Spoelstra has that problem, Paul Westphal has that problem… every coach in the league has that problem. They’re paid a lot of money to solve that problem. And right now Nellie’s doing a bad job of solving it, for the same reason that he’s doing a bad job period: he’s not working very hard. It has nothing to do with what “school” Nellie’s from.

by onlxn on Nov 21, 2009 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

old school is not really a school.

BTW – The triangle offense was created by an assistant coach and Phil Jackson called Kobe an uncoachable baby. But he’s not a bad coach is he? Coaches have assistants for a reason – some are offensive minded – some defensive.

Also, Webber recently said he could have and would have done things differently if he was more mature.

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by triplesix on Nov 21, 2009 6:53 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

The guy just looks worn out to me.

Seriously though – for Don this has to feel like the longest first 12 games of his career.

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by triplesix on Nov 21, 2009 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Some thoughts...

…last night was at various points a head-slappingly brutal game for Randolph, but Nelson let him play through it, which is what I’d been hoping for all season. Despite the clear struggles, he did manage to pull down 11 boards in 30 minutes, against a crushing frontline for the Blazers. On a night where every rebound came at a premium, Randolph proved valuable even surging through the oft ineptitude, and I think that’s worth noting. Thanks to Don Nelson for giving him that burn.

Furthermore, I agree that Hunter looked like a very solid big. I had been complaining a couple weeks ago that I wanted Riley to dig around in the D-League for a center, my presumption being that you’d find somebody who’d be more worthwhile than Mikki Moore. In Chris Hunter, at least based on the cool and confident demeanor he showed last night, we may again have cemented ourselves as the premier franchise for mining D-League talent. Hats off.

That said, the Warrior Wonder most certainly has to be Ellis. He played like a king tonight, absolutely busting his ass on every possession, and stuck it to Brandon Roy on both sides of the court. He provided a whole game of what I used to see in flashes- that certain competition and drive Monta can have that really does make him seem like a leader on the court. Even the most cynical analyst of our situation would likely concur, Ellis has been giving it everything he has now that he’s the top dog, and against all odds, he gave me a ray of optimism about the Warriors that’s been absent for a long time.

by Zack Vank on Nov 21, 2009 12:52 PM PST reply actions  

I love

how even the refs gave him the benefit of the doubt on that Oden hack. When you come in and play well and in control sometimes you get respect.

John 8:44 -Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.

by triplesix on Nov 21, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

WHAT A GAME!

Just watched it this morning… loved it from start to finish… they kept that ball movin’ and everybody was lookin’ good! Okay, back to Sarah Connor Chronicles season 2! LOL…

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by Tony.psd on Nov 21, 2009 1:14 PM PST reply actions  

lol

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by LostHawkGSW on Nov 21, 2009 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

"loved it from start to finish"

that’s because you knew the Warriors came out with a win. I was praying to all gods possible, that if they win, i’ll be good for…well good.

Bob keeps scaring me and saying that Roy could get them out of the game…

by Shells on Nov 21, 2009 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

if you guys liked last nights performance....

vote our guys into the all star game on the all star ballot on NBA.com.

by Richboievans on Nov 21, 2009 1:15 PM PST reply actions  

How is Monta now WW?

And how you said he always dissed his teammates., why can’t you look at him and say " he played like an all star"? Hunter should get an honorable WW. Too many Monta haters are narrow minded.

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by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2009 1:31 PM PST reply actions  

lol

and too many Monta lovers think he’s god.

although I can’t say that I love Monta, but since he’s a big media guy, sometimes the things he say, well needs to be thought out first.

by Shells on Nov 21, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

He sounds uneducated, when he’s on the radio. I wish he would’ve gone to college… easier for people to respect you.

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by Naticus2 on Nov 22, 2009 11:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Seriously...

Monta played the best game of his career. Why downplay his performance AND give Chris Hunter most of the credit for this game?

by believe on Nov 21, 2009 2:06 PM PST reply actions  

Well, part of the reason is probably the 1st quarter. Portland showed us what would happen if we let Moore or Randolph try to guard Oden. Oden had 11 points in the first quarter, along with forcing 3 fouls on Moore. We were set up for a 3rd quarter collapse if we tried to defend Oden the same way that we did in the 1st quarter. Hunter completely nullified Oden on the offensive end, making the time until he picked up his fouls no better for the Blazers than any of the time they played without Oden on the floor.

I like to this of the Warrior Wonder as more of a “Wow, I didn’t see THAT performance coming” award, and nobody in their right minds could have expected Chris Hunter to look so good out there.

by samuraaaaiiiiiii on Nov 21, 2009 2:17 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Warrior Wonder should be "This guy really stepped up and helped us to the win"

It really should go to Monta, but Hunter’s defense was also clearly instrumental, and Monta’s efforts may have been for naught if Oden had been allowed to continue abusing Moore and Randolph (and subsequently Radman and Maggette, potentially marking the first time in league history that a team couldn’t put 5 guys on the floor due to foul trouble).

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by Dubs fan in Boston on Nov 23, 2009 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Monta

is our leader, this is his team now. The best part of all last night was watching him really take on that role, lets all hope he continues to mature his game and his character. LGW!

by Aware1 on Nov 21, 2009 2:15 PM PST reply actions  

Awesome game. And I agree with the crowd that Monta was the clear Warrior Wonder. When a guy plays forty-eight minutes, scores often and efficiently, hands out eight assists and shuts down the opposition’s superstar, it’s probably time to stop analyzing post-game interviews and give him some credit.

It’s easy to make too much of the arrival of Chris Hunter… most of us had never heard of him yesterday, and now we’re anointing him the savior of the team. Still and all, though, he has the feel of a player that Nellie will like: can hit an open jumper, willing passer, doesn’t seem to try stuff he can’t do.

If Hunter sticks, it could be a big help for us, just in the sense that Nellie will have another big he actually likes to play. Part of the reason that Nellie’s been so over the top with smallball for the last year-plus is that he just doesn’t seem that enamored with the games of guys like Biedrins and Wright… he’s real quick to pull them and get shooters on the floor, no matter what it costs us (and it costs us plenty). But Hunter seems like a guy who might not trigger any of Nellie’s worries, a guy who might get some minutes even if he struggles at times. If Chris Hunter’s presence means we’ll see smallball even a little less often, this team will be much, much better for it. At the very least, if Hunter replaces Mikki in the rotation (as he essentially did last night), we’ll get a boost.

Bigger lineups, shutdown defense from Monta, less Mikki, even a few strategic moves by Nellie… yep, last night felt pretty good. I wouldn’t expect a win out of our doubleheader in Texas, but it does feel like the team is past the nadir of the Clippers/Kings blowouts. This now feels like a team worth rooting for.

by onlxn on Nov 21, 2009 2:21 PM PST reply actions  

Monta’s best game as a pro, but it would have been all for naught without Hunter’s ability to reasonably defend Oden 1 on 1. The other guys just kept letting him catch the ball with both feet in the paint, resulting in giving him dunks or fouling him. I think the W’s are the only team in the NBA that makes Oden look like an offensive force. In 4 games, he averages like 21 & 13 per 36 min while shooting 67% against them.

In the 10:42 that Oden played without Chris Hunter, he had 13 pts w/ a 100% FG% (5-5), 2 assists (both lay ups) while drawing 4 fouls.

In the 13:30 that Oden faced Hunter, he had 3 pts on 33% shooting (1-3), 0 assists and drew 1 foul.

Suffice to say, if Oden went up against AR & Moore, that 13:30 probably produces #‘s similar to the #’s he put up in 10:42 and the game is a lot closer, if not lost.

by homer simpson on Nov 21, 2009 11:20 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Randolph was effectively fronting Oden, making it difficult for them to get the ball to him. With AR’s length and athleticism, good luck getting the ball over him. No way AR can keep him out of the paint, though. Still, AR was active and intimidating on defense.

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by Naticus2 on Nov 22, 2009 11:56 PM PST up reply actions  

At the same time

If we went without Monta and his 34/8/2/6 and excellent defense on Roy, the game certainly would have been lost. It’s a toss up. I’d still give it to Monta though, because it’s much, much harder to shut down Roy than Oden. I understand that Hunter was necessary (so were Morrow and Curry, BTW), but you’re overlooking how necessary Monta’s whole game was. He was our primary scorer/initiator and shut down the opponents’ primary scorer/initiator. Without Monta, we lose big. Without Hunter we probably lose, but it’s close.

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by Dubs fan in Boston on Nov 23, 2009 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

if Hunter replaces Mikki in the rotation

This possibility makes me happy. This would be an enormous help to us. Hunter can play badly and still outplay Moore, I predict.

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by Naticus2 on Nov 22, 2009 11:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I still think that Vladimir made the differences when he first came in the 2nd Q. (it was still a slug fest)

And the last few minutes of that Q carried on. At least we didn’t have a 3rd Q collapse. And in the end we came out with the win.

And I do agree that Monta do deserve the WW. Although, Curry and AM should also get it. 48 minutes is something to be not over look. Even Corey, since he put LeMarcus on the bench.

I suppose team work = a win. What Jim said is correct. What did he say again? That even if we don’t have best players, we could win it we play smart? With our small guys? Oh something like that…

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by Shells on Nov 21, 2009 2:28 PM PST reply actions  

Vlad got some lucky rolls and non-calls

But he was active in keeping misses in play and helping on D. He doesn’t seem to mind coming off the bench too

by mosdl on Nov 21, 2009 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

He is a good defender for Nellie's system

He goes for steals rather than being a great straight-up defender—his hands were busy on D and it helped the W’s several times.

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by worldblee on Nov 21, 2009 4:44 PM PST up reply actions  

being undersized

we have to force turnovers.

by mosdl on Nov 21, 2009 6:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I noticed Vlad’s contribution. He’s a great addition to this team so far.

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by Naticus2 on Nov 22, 2009 11:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Monta do deserve the WW. Although, Curry and AM should also get it.

 The whole warriors team except I guess Mikie deserve it for their hustle but NateMcMillian is the honorable mention, his game plan sucked. They shoulda pounded the ball into the paint and attacked Curr-bury to foul him out sooner instead of diddling around out on the perimeter most of the game. All in all the portland collapse made it a hard game to enjoy.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Nov 21, 2009 3:15 PM PST reply actions  

Hard to enjoy?

C’mon man… there was a team play and spirit last night that just …..worked…
That in itself was a joy to watch…most satisfying of all though… is for Stephen Jackson to have to hear how the 8 man Warriors are taking the fight to other teams and just beat a team they had no business beating at face value….

That alone must make Jackson sick as a dog…knowing that everyone now knows how much of a detriment he was to us this year after he threw his toys out the pram… in short…. HE MADE A BAD CHOICE THIS SUMMER!

So yes for me…this was a hugely enjoyable game to watch….I just wished I could have stayed up last night to watch it live… but 10 tonne eyelids and alchohol said…buenos noches!

Very enjoyable game as I dont think the Blazers collapsed…they just didnt have a clue how to react to the high speed express train that is Run n Gun basketball…… EPIC FUN!

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by BritWarriorGSW on Nov 21, 2009 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, that was an amazing game to watch. it just felt good. the whole team was working and fighting and playing as a unit. no need to rain on this parade, skep. grind that axe elsewhere.

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by cap'n hack on Nov 21, 2009 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

no need to rain on this parade,

  I enjoy games where both teams play their top game. I think the refs ruined portland’s game by calling fouls on Oden and Roy and not on our guys when they reached in for steals. The first quarter was the most interesting to me as I liked to see how our small guys were gonna handle portland’s bigs, but then they had to take them out due to fouls so it lost the excitement., watching one team run and the other not able to do their thing gets boring fast.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Nov 21, 2009 7:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the refs ruined portland’s game

The Blazer fans blamed Nate more than they did the refs.

http://www.blazersedge.com/2009/11/21/1167757/at-what-point-do-we-admit-we-are

It is kind of odd to limit your players to 2 fouls in the 1st half. Playing Aldridge 6 minutes in the 1st half b/c you’re worried about a 3rd foul is kind of conservative.

by homer simpson on Nov 21, 2009 10:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Playing Aldridge 6 minutes in the 1st half b/c you’re worried about a 3rd foul is kind of conservative.

 yeah, I guess he wasn’t planning on us being so lucky with our shooting percentage so the game just got out of hand? They seem like they never really wanted to win it, I’m surprised they didn’t drive more and draw fouls, seems like they just wasted time passing aimlessly around the perimeter?

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Nov 22, 2009 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

The only thing that made it hard to enjoy for me was the amount of foul calling.

by Reverend_Randy on Nov 21, 2009 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I am digging Hunter...

composed and played within his game in his NBA debut. Somebody AR can learn from.

but he’s wearing my boy’s jersey number… that 31 should be retired in the warriors franchise.

by we want foyle on Nov 21, 2009 3:30 PM PST reply actions  

Thank you Jackson!

with you gone we are a better team. guys play with more confidence and freedom with you gone. nelson decides to coach with you gone. the young guys don’t just defer to you, with you gone. the ball movement that we need to have for any chance of winning happens with you gone. thanks for making an ass out of yourself and getting traded so we can start winning, with you gone.
good luck with bobcats!

by tjmax on Nov 21, 2009 6:30 PM PST reply actions  

I did not know you guys were at U of M! I thought I was the only Warriors fan over here, as all my friends are always making fun of me :(

by jjj111 on Nov 21, 2009 8:25 PM PST reply actions  

Highlight

Was watching the7 min highlight from youtube and most (if not all) of the plays in it does not involve maggs

I will always be your fan JRich. Good Luck

by chili01 on Nov 22, 2009 12:46 AM PST reply actions  

Chris Hunter didn't shut down Greg Oden.

Nate McMillan did. But you guys still whooped us good.

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by bforsythe on Nov 23, 2009 6:55 PM PST reply actions  

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