Warriors Web: Warriors 97, Lakers 130 - Grrr...
by IQofaWarrior on Nov 29, 2009 12:31 AM PST
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PrintLast update: Nov 29, 9:00pm - Rusty Simmon's final update
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Associated Press recap: Lakers rout Warriors 130-97 for fifth straight win
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Rusty Simmons: Game 15: Lakers at Warriors (final)Postgame Links
- Rusty's title says it all. We were beaten, beaten, and beaten again.
Rusty Simmons: Star-struck, lifeless and left for dead
- Usually the duty of Stephen Jackson to guard the opponent's best players, that job now falls on Monta, and he had a couple of moments on Kobe.
Rusty Simmons: Ellis relishes new role of top defender
- Once again, we were beaten, beaten, and beaten again.
Marcus Thompson II: Warriors blown out by the Lakers
- With Monta being a vocal leader now and asking for the challenge of guarding the best, and actually playing defense, it's pretty hard pull the trigger on a Monta trade.
Marcus Thompson II: As Kobe can attest, Ellis makes strides on defense
=== Added Nov 29, 4:00pm ===
- Mike Massa with some trends and perspectives about the 33 point loss.
Mike Massa: Bigger, better Lakers hand Warriors 33-point loss at hom
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Pregame: None found so far.
Postgame Videos
Highlights by orangino. (Yes, we had a few.)
Kobe on Stephen Jackson
Early in the 4th qtr, Jim said this on the telecast:Jim: I never told you this, but when he and Stephen Jackson got into it in that exhibition game down in LA, at the Forum, Kobe, after the game told me, he said, "I'm going to make you look good on television. I'm going for FIFTY when I play against Stephen Jackson the first time at your arena." He was serious, too.
Bob: That'll be in Charlotte. That won't be here.
Jim: Well, let's watch it.
<Bob comments about the game...>
Jim: Those were his words. He said, "I'll make you look good on television. You go on before the game and tell him that I'm going for fifty."
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by Atma Brother ONE on Nov 29, 2009 12:42 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I was watching postgame and Monta implied again that other people need to help him
He’s right. Maggette is the 2nd guy on the team and he kills the flow of the game, Curry is not his sidekick. He’s just not that type of player, Morrow relies on other people way too much to be a sidekick. AR? If he went back to end of last year AR yes but now? No, he needs to get used to game speed. CJ? Ronny? Hunter? MOORE?! We need someone to come in and help him. He wants a sidekick and we should give him one. Either as a FA or through trade, it should be a player that can take a load off him. Preferably at small forward and someone who can score and play good D.
Other thought, even though AR may not be ready Mikki is still starting! And Vlad is still getting heavy minutes! The only way AR will get his confidence back will be from playing more, not sitting on the bench pouting.
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by LostHawkGSW on Nov 29, 2009 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
Did anyone else see what I saw
During the 3rd quarter, Monta was guarding Kobe near the W’s bench, and Kobe pointed at Monta and said something to the warrior bench.
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I didn’t see that, but I really don’t like that.
by Reverend_Randy on Nov 29, 2009 4:02 AM PST up reply actions
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This game is the perfect training video for our young Warriors. They need to watch this tape…over and over and over and over and over….until their eyes and ears are ready to bleed.
Why? Because they were just schooled in perfect basketball and there is much they can learn from this game AND most importantly…it shows them that the thing they lacked in this game was the thing that completely destroyed Dallas and Portland…
SPEED…..
Without the ALL-STAR lineup the way we compete with a team like the Lakers is speed. If you watch any our our past wins over the Lakers, our shooting was spot on and the outlet fastbreak through the likes of Monta, Barnes, Pietrus, from Baron….was something that the Lakers could not defend against back then.
Even with all their stars now….if you watch the orangino clip on Youtube in the main game review thread, you can see how swift penetration to the hoop can frustrate even Kobe…there is simply nothing you can do against a fast team that plays to its strengths and breaks fast…..
So….yes it was a loss…. but they CAN take something very useful from this and learn what makes a great team great. Every Warrior player should know every single play of that game off by heart by Christmas…if they are at all serious about improving their own personal skills.
Now….
Onto my next question….. Keith Smart……
As I have said before….all those who have been clammering for Smart to take over from Nellie….can you now see and understand why I truly dont think much would change with Smart in charge? He has been such an integral part of the coaching for the last year and a half that all you have is a younger version of Nellieball.
I have no issue with Smart running the offensive plays, but we are in desperate need of a proper defensive assitant coach who can shake things up. AND RUSS TURNER…..you NEED to do a better job with Randolph and FAST!…. If Russ is not getting the job done with Randolph which he clearly isnt….then get rid of him and get someone in that can coach our most raw talent…to craft him into the player many of us THINK he can be!
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The Warriors do not have the offense that the Lakers run
Sorry, but that’s not going to work. The only thing that the Warriors should take away from the game is how well the Lakers moved the ball to open teammates. Other then that throw the video away and move on, there’s no reason to dwell on this loss.
I also don’t want the Warriors to become a whiny team like the Lakers, Pau Gasol deserved the technical for hanging on the rim, how many three second violations were not called on either Gasol or Bynum?
How many times could the Lakers reach in and hack a Warriors player? Did you not see Bryant push Ellis? Sorry, the Lakers are a team that the Warriors should not want to become.
What the Warriors need to do to be effective is to attack the basket!
Hmmm lets hope you dont ever coach the team...
The only thing that the Warriors should take away from the game is how well the Lakers moved the ball to open teammates. Other then that throw the video away and move on, there’s no reason to dwell on this loss.
You miss the point. There are a 1000 points that can be learned from how the Lakers played that game and only a tiny part of it is the offense plays chosen by them. The be-all and end-all of basketball does not stop with Offense you know?
The point is….there is a huge amount they can watch, learn and MOST IMPORTANTLY STUDY! so that the next time we play them, we have learned and come up with ideas of how to stop the Lakers on our next visit with them.
Or would you rather they simply turn up and play the Lakers exactly the same way and “hope” we do better, which with your idea of throwing the tape away, would tend to suggest.
All great coaches/managers take lessons from losses and then take that game and do what they can with the players to ensure that such a loss does not occur again.
The only way you do this…is by watching the game over and over again. If nothing else, the players will start to see typical traits and favourite plays that certain players make. The next time they face them they might remember…“ahhh you always like to fake to your left…so I actually going to force you left”.
In short, what your saying is a mindset that is so very wrong with many of today’s sports pro’s i.e “I’m great, hey we lost….oh well….on to the next game, where I get paid the same amount…so I dont really care”.
It should matter this loss, because the Warriors were outclassed and outplayed and outcoached. Homework needs to be done and HOURS in the gym recreating plays to understand how better to defend against them.
DEDICATION is a great word… and I would suspect, one of the few players on our team doing his homework right now…is Steph Curry. This kid seems to be an information sponge, you tell him something, it seems from the outside to stick and he makes the changes. THAT is great Basketball IQ.
So to answer….YES there is much to dwell upon…IF this team has any intention of getting better and its from the losses that you learn the most.
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by BritWarriorGSW on Nov 29, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
and that is why I am a rookie with blockquote....LOL
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by BritWarriorGSW on Nov 29, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
I think the momentum clearly went away for the Warriors
Is when the Warriors had cut the lead by the Lakers to nine. Ron Artest had the ball on the three point line with Corey Maggette guarding him, Artest then swung his arm out and hit Maggette in the face, no offensive foul and instead a drive to the basket by Artest for a three point play to push the lead back to 12. The Warriors never recovered from that.
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by LostHawkGSW on Nov 29, 2009 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
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what else would you expect? I did like AR getting into it with Gasol and I wish Smart would have left him out on the court, we need a little fire burning in our bellies.
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Did any one of us actually think that the dubs could play with the champs? Well that hasn’t stopped me from trash talking lakers fans, but I’m gonna catch hell now…
So I guess, not surprised is how I feel about this loss… but if you’re looking for proof that Don Nelson can do something, I don’t think he’d have the dubs lose by this much.
by Lew Ghost on Nov 29, 2009 2:48 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
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