Miami Interested in Stephen Jackson Trade
by GSWDownUnder on Nov 9, 2009 5:44 AM PST
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A recent headline from Hoopshype.com stated
Ric Bucher: League sources: Add Miami to the teams interested in Stephen Jackson. And, according to a Jackson source, add Miami to his preferred list. Twitter.com
As much as I would love to laugh at the idea of Jackson getting traded to somewhere like Charlotte where he can really think about what a fool he has made himself out to be here in GS, I also see the mutual benefits of a trade with Miami.
For Miami they get a seasoned vet in Jackson who knows how to win, when motivated, and is a consistent player as well as defender, again when motivated. D-wade and Jack both have rings and both want more. When you look at the current SF in Miami, Q-Richardson, the need is definitely there for improvement. I really think that teamed up with an uber-scorer like D-wade, Jackson would truly help the Heat get deep in the playoffs.
As far as the salary goes, Miami has no worries. Next year they are only paying out 24 million, and have loads of room to sign free agents as more than half of there team is on expiring contracts. Absorbing Jackson's 3 year deal would not be that bad, especially, if it helped them draw other talent next year in the "Free Agent Blitz-Summer of Lebron and Friends." Who knows maybe Lebron, Dwade, and Jackson might play together in Miami next year, haha.
As for Golden State, we could really use an expiring contract and some help down low in the rebound department. I know that there have been injuries, and Randolph has yet to be unleashed, but we are seriously lackiing in low post help. The last two games have been brutal and I am not sure how much longer I can take it. WE SUCK AT REBOUNDING.
I looked up some trades on the The Mighty Trade Machine of ESPN and the most attractive one I found actually seemed realistic.
Stephen Jackson for Udonis Haslem Str8 up! http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ko962o
We are trading a starting SF for a back-up PF with an expiring contract, as Haslem is due 7 million this year. Even if it does not work out in GS after this year Haslem can re-sign with the Heat to play with Lebron, Dwade, and Jackson ;) And we are 7 million dollars closer to signing an All-star.
For the rest of this year however, we get someone who can rebound and score, but more importantly teach our guys how to rebound. Even if the Haslem deal doesn't happen I truly think there are a number of deals Miami could work out with GS that could benefit both sides.
I would be extremely happy with any expiring contracts to give us some space for next year when I convince Lebron (and Dwade) to come play with his friend Stephen Curry here in Oakland. That way I can still laugh at Jackson when he is gone ROFL [sweet pirate voice] "Keep watch for hurricanes down there Captain Jack, I here they aRRRRRe mighty destructive in da Caribbean." You know like your mouth and your ego!
-GSWDownUnder
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Not sure about the Heat getting rid of Haslem….we might have a better chance at Q-Rich instead. Haslem is an important piece down there….espically since Beasley isnt dependable.
by Bellringer21 on Nov 9, 2009 5:54 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well anything is better than Jackson at this point.
They are both expiring contracts and I think either would be an improvement. As of now I feel like Jackson is cancerous to the whole situation and the longer he stays the more damage he is doing to the team. Marcus Thompson from the CCTimes was just describing Jackson’s ability to completely disregard wide open teammates so he can try and drive for a turnover… ummm I mean shot, sorry.
But maybe I am just being too impatient, and the best deal is coming later in the season. It just hurts knowing something is malignant and needs to be removed, but not being able to do anything about it.
Is there a cure for Rowell-Cohan Syndrome? Anyone….? Help!
by GSWDownUnder on Nov 9, 2009 6:03 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Haslem is an "important piece"
Because he’s part of a massive pile of expiring contracts that will allow the Heat to pursue LeBron and Bosh, while hanging onto Wade. Indeed, given their appealing location — fun city with great nightlife, warm in winter — the Heat look to be in pole position in the race to pair a couple of franchise-types and become the next NBA dynasty. They’d have to be out of their minds to gum up their cap situation with an aging disgruntled mediocrity like Jackson.
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Nov 9, 2009 6:07 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
It's So Crazy
It Just Might Work ;)
by GSWDownUnder on Nov 9, 2009 6:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep,
can’t see any reason why Miami would want to do this deal. Even with a ‘happy healthy’ SJax, they still can’t run down the big three in the East. They should save their cap space and make a bid for Bosh next year. Bosh, Wade, and Beasley will be frightning.
Thing B
by warriorsscore110 on Nov 9, 2009 8:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Bosh, Wade, and LeBron even more so. I think they actually have the space for it (assuming no silly mid-season acquisitions like Jax). They could put Acie Law and DJ Mbenga at the 1 and 5 and win multiple consecutive titles…
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Nov 9, 2009 8:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
they definitely have room for it when LeBron says things like “I don’t care about a max contract.” I don’t really expect him to not take a max deal, but its kinda fun to think about
Thing A
by sam23 on Nov 9, 2009 10:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
NO
Cmon, whats that expiring gonna get us? 5 mil under the cap? We already unloaded crawford for a bag of nothing. Granted Crawford had to go, but unless there is some plan to use these expiring, whats the point? John Wall sweepstakes? Another combo guarD?!
by tafkasam on Nov 9, 2009 8:38 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well if you want to get instant gratification from expiring contracts,
then yes, getting expiring contracts for this off season won’t make us a Western Conference power next season. However if you want to get rid of the vets and go all in witht he youngsters and stock up draft picks, and wait till 2011 or 2012 to make a big time free agency grab then getting exprings make sense.
I am sure you are aware that right now we would have a salary of 40 million in 2012-2013 in just 4 players right? And none of those guys are named Curry, Randolph, Morrow, or Wright. Thats alright if this is your championship window. Not alright if we are trying to figure out if we are 12th, 13th, or 14th best team in the Western Conference.
Thing B
by warriorsscore110 on Nov 9, 2009 9:59 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
thats EXACTLY my point
we don’t have enough talent. expiring jackson’s contract and signing no1 will only leave us with less talent. I’m simply not sold on players we have. I don’t care there age. I saw a sacramento team play 5 players under 23 and wipe the floor with our ‘young guns’ curry, monta, morrow, biedrins etc. etc. We simply aren’t that talented.
by tafkasam on Nov 9, 2009 10:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Just tried this on Trade Machine:
Ellis
Jax
Wright
Claxton
for
Beasley
JO’neal
Welcome to the Warriors, Stephen Curry, the 2009 NBA Rookie of the Year.
Panda's and Curry in the Bey Area. Who would've known?
Conductor of the "We're Back!" Bandwagon!
by ejdacanay on Nov 9, 2009 11:04 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Beasley/Randolph front court
We’d for sure go to final 4
by tafkasam on Nov 9, 2009 11:13 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
haha don't know if that was sarcasm
But a 23 Million dollar expiring contract is extremely valuable and is the reason why I’d do this trade
Welcome to the Warriors, Stephen Curry, the 2009 NBA Rookie of the Year.
Panda's and Curry in the Bey Area. Who would've known?
Conductor of the "We're Back!" Bandwagon!
by ejdacanay on Nov 9, 2009 11:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Can someone correct me if i'm wrong?
I thought I say Wizards on the list too….. Mike Miller + Blatche 4 Jack +turiaf?
by tafkasam on Nov 9, 2009 11:14 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
how about...
Jack and Turiaf for Haslem and somebody.
by Jagz8 on Nov 9, 2009 11:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why not Trade ellis?
I don’t see him actually making a huge difference for us and I think we could trade him for some serious talent, maybe to a team with a great defender at the 2 or 1 and monta plays the other. Something like Ellis and Jackson to Charlotte for Diaw and Bell Maybe.
Or Maybe this trade for the ages……
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ydlcw4y
Turiaf
Ellis
Jackson
for
Raja Bell
Gerald Wallace
Boris Diaw
Wow that actually sounds legit but maybe I am being effected by the bad vibes of the start of this season. haha
What do you think about this trade
by GSWDownUnder on Nov 9, 2009 6:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Captain Jax for D-Wade straight-up?
The foundational Western philosophical quote; "I think, therefore I am..." applies to everyone except Booby "the joke" Crozby
by MMunoz33 on Nov 9, 2009 8:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Miami wants cap space more than Jackson
Miami wants cap space more than Jackson, so if we send him there it will have to be for Daequan Cook and James Jones + someone we actually want. You can get Haslem if you send them Claxton with Jackson, but even that increases their payroll commitment next year by a couple million. Unless someone else has a player option that I’m not aware of – or they give up on Beasley prematurely – we’re likely not getting something we want back for Jackson from Miami.
by toddaverth on Nov 10, 2009 12:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Do you really believe that by trading our best, most experienced player we will increase our chances of signing an All-star??? Do Brand and Arenas tell you anything? Why would an All-star with choice of where to go sign with us? We are not close to contending for a championship and getting rid of Jackson for nothing but cap space will not get us closer to this.
by gobigg415 on Nov 10, 2009 5:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Best thing for the Dubs to do is stay cool and not panic.
Stephen Jackson’s best chance to get out of town and be traded is to play like he did against the T-Wolves last night. STFU and play good basketball, tell your agent to “STFU or you’re fired!”, and be a professional while collecting a fat paycheck.
Most of all, “STFU and be professional!”. The Dubs will be better served by dictating the situation. Screw Stack Jack if he thinks he is in control. Ain’t gonna happen, yo! In the end, they will be better served to be patient and look for the best deal possible.
Go Warriors!
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by mrod on Nov 10, 2009 10:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Stephen Jackson is not our most experienced player. Corey Maggette is.
Moreover, Stephen Jackson is not our best player. He is not our second-best player. He is not our third-best player. He may not be our fourth-best player. If you take basketball analysis seriously, you will be forced to conclude that Stephen Jackson is somewhere between our fourth and seventh-best player. It has nothing to do with his attitude… it has to do with the shots he misses, the rebounds he doesn’t get to and the turnovers he’s prone to. (And the “brilliant defense” that he doesn’t actually play.)
Cap space will likely not net us an All-Star… I wouldn’t expect any top guys to want to sign with us. But cap space can net us something better than Stephen Jackson. Stephen Jackson just isn’t all that good.
by onlxn on Nov 11, 2009 11:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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