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RECAP #16: Warriors 126, Pacers 107 - The Evolution of Monta Ellis, he's getting the superstar calls!

 

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(Monta, while diving for loose balls, makes a plea to the fans to vote for him for this year's all-star game)

Monta Ellis is making me eat my words.  And it has never tasted so good. 

I have blasted Ellis time and time again for being a one-dimensional player his first few years in the league: Ellis lacks a left hand.  Ellis is a terrible dribbler and passer.  Ellis only knows how to drive in straight lines.  Ellis doesn't help little old ladies cross busy streets. And the list goes on and on.

But for the 5th night in a row, we're all witness to Monta's phenomenal evolution from "potential" to leader, lockdown defender, and a very strong candidate for an all-star appearance this year.  Monta's incredible 45 points paced the Warriors tonight and his 7 point outburst in less than a minute during the beginning of the fourth quarter reminded me of that dominance that I only see from...dare I actually say it.. superstars like MJ, Dwayne Wade, and Lebron James?  And I say this ALSO because he went shot 16 free throws meaning he's getting those superstar calls, like a superstar!  Or Kevin Martin to say the least.

Okay, I know this may sound ridiculous to say.  Almost as ridiculous as say all the weirdo love for 49er QB Alex Smith and his solid play against the worst above .500 team in the NFL.  The Warriors win over the Pacers could be of an equivalent battle of suckiness.  But Monta's ability to rally the rest of the troops in a very surprising come-from-behind win and trusting his teammates to make plays shows us a lot of his evolution as a player.  Disposing of crappy teams is a step in the right direction for Monta and the rest of the Warriors, right?

Final Boxscore: Pacers vs Warriors boxscore

For the Pacers perspective of the game: Indy Cornrows

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From jump, this game looked bad.  Dunleavy's tenure with the Warriors bad.  Missing wide open shots, mishandling the ball on passes and off the dribble, and a few pretty embarrassing posterizing dunks by Dahntay Jones and company on our weird ensemble of Warriors, which Jim Barnett mentioned at one point during the game, had only 1 drafted player.


It was so ugly that Dunleavy in his second game back from his career-threatening injuries was able to score an extremely efficient one point per minute in the first half and he had 10 points by half time.  The Pacers moved the ball well and the Warriors scrambled to cover the open man.  The Warriors, on the other hand, moved the ball, too, except into the hands of the Pacers.  I learned a valuable lesson in this first half, spin moves in traffic, with three to four players surrounding you, will most likely leave you picked.

But Monta  continued to pace the Warriors, or at least keep them from getting blown out completely.  Stephen Curry is going through some growing pains right now and his shaky handle lately makes me wish Monta will handle the ball handling duties full-time (that feels weird to say).  Plus, he had no chance of staying in front of TJ Ford (and Ford seemed to know that), which illuminates the struggles that Curry tends to have right now staying in front of smaller quicker points or anyone at that.


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(Morrow respects the game as he worships the basketball itself.  Or he's employing some under-hand shooting techniques of Rick Barry)

VladRad looks great on defense and on the boards, but like Morrow, a lot of times looks best as a spot up shooter.  But even with all the offensive inefficiencies in the first 24 minutes, Monta, like Moses, "parted the red sea," as Barnett kept referring to the Pacers poor defensive execution against the driving Monta. 

As the offense sputtered, Monta took the situation into his own hands and continued to attack the basket to get some easy buckets from the foul line (14 out of 16) even as they packed the paint. 

But it wasn't just his amazing offensive display (23 points in the first half) that was so impressive, but his ability to accumulate steals (5 total and nearly averaging 4 per game in the last 5 games) and stay in front of Danny Granger.  It's definitely this growing commitment to defense that makes me think that Monta is more than just a scorer on a terrible team.

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(Monta had Granger's number all night... literally!)

In the third, Monta finally got some help from his bench as CJ Watson picked up some of the scoring load.  CJ Watson showed us some of his all-around game, too, creating turnovers and scoring opportunities for teammates.  Watson shot a blistering 70% from the field but also had 6 assists to go with it.  Just goes to show how good the Warriors can be when they pass.  But just as important, the three steals that Watson had, somewhat problematically, shows how reliant the Warriors offense can be when it relies a lot of times on fastbreak points.   

Watson's scoring seemed to create defensive havoc on the Pacers as they struggled to cover two scorers.  But this seemed to open everything up for the rest of the Warriors as Morrow finally found his shot and Corey Maggette finally found a way to score.


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(TJ Ford tells his teammates during the game: "Monta is GOOD! I can't defend him at all!")

But what was probably most exciting about the Warriors play in the second half was the increased amount of ball movement and willingness to distribute.  As much as the players, beat writers, and even fans have been suggesting about the improved team-work, this game was emblematic of this new "culture of sharing" that the Warriors have slowly begun to embrace.  I almost laughed seeing Maggette go scoreless in the first half with several times not even looking to shoot the open 10 footer, instead trying to feed his teammates with the hot hand or wide open look.  As CJ Watson began to take over midway through the second half, it was a pleasant surprise to see Monta take a back seat and trust his teammates to pick up the scoring slack.  I'm sure he welcomed the burden off his shoulders as well. 


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(Warriors defense at it's finest)

So is there any bad news? 

Well, we all know about Anthony Randolph's sprained ankle, which he injured away from the ball as he tried to plant himself for a rebound.  Let's hope he heals quickly.  But honestly, what's up with Randolph's inability to stay off the floor?  By off the floor, I mean he's constantly falling down getting out muscled by the big men in this league.  OR his footwork on offense is so terrible that he's always falling down after a spin move.  OR getting knocked over when his weak shots are blocked on layups or dunks.  Honestly, this guy, as Atma Brother #1 mentioned several times, needs to work on his core.  Or maybe, he needs to do some yoga like Antawn Jamison.   

The first half exposed some of the worst parts of Warriors basketball and the inconsistencies of this young team that at times looks like it really is nothing more than d-league studs.  This isn't to say that we don't need Chris Hunter's help on the interior.  He is by no means the solution to all our rebounding woes, but his big body and thunderous dunks with the two hand slaps on the backboard give this team a little swagger that it's sorely missing.  Also, why doesn't Chris Hunter smile at all during the game?  Even when he has tight dunks during a momentum upswing?  Perhaps worried he might be back in the d-league in a quick minute?  Or perhaps Poland or Belgium for that matter?  At any rate, I can confidently say we all appreciate Hunter's current role on this team.


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Warrior Wonder for today is a no brainer.  Monta Ellis accounting for one-third of the Warriors points on 50% shooting is phenomenal.  Warrior Wonder #2? CJ Watson.  Having another scorer and playmaker opened up the game for everyone.  But honestly, what's up with his haircut right now?

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Nice recap

I think this is the first time playing against TJ Ford where he didn’t have to leave the game hurt. It seemed like everytime he started against us, he went down with an injury. I’m pretty sure it has happened the last two or three times (when he was with the Raptors).

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by disguy on Dec 1, 2009 12:10 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

One thing that made me warm up to Hunter even more

was the fact that he smiled after he came up with some big plays. I really enjoy this guy who seems to have soft hands (love the free throw ability)

Is there no shot at the Dubs keeping him since we have guaranteed contacts 1-15?

My icon is a testament to the Dubs ability to play defense.

by JR Repertoire on Dec 1, 2009 12:33 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Is there no shot at the Dubs keeping him since we have guaranteed contacts 1-15?

I really hope we do. I hope we can just buyout Mikki Moore’s sorry ass and pick up Chris Hunter. At this point, Hunter is rebounding better, boxing out better, and going ater every rebound. All the things I’d wish Mikki Moore would do, but doesn’t. But if he did, we wouldn’t even need Hunter, now would we? Hunter>Moore, start the movement!

WARRIORS BASKETBALL!!! Patiently waiting for a title...I may be waiting for a long time...

by JustSomeName on Dec 1, 2009 12:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Why not get rid of Speedy or Devean George

Seems like keeping Mikki Moore would be a little better, we should get rid of Speedy or Devean George for sure as they aren’t even playing

by Jose V on Dec 1, 2009 1:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You're right.

Just looked at the salary numbers. George and Moore are about the same with George making about 300K more, not big of a difference. And Moore IS more useful than George at this point. The thing with Claxton though, he’s making 5-6 mil this year and since he’s injured, insurance is paying for his contract, so he’d be more worth to keep as an expiring than the other two. So I guess if we had to choose, I’d choose to buyout George (who is basically getting paid by the Raptors due to the Belinelli trade) and pick up Chris Hunter. But will Cohan/Rowell be willing to dish out even more money? I believe that’s the bigger obstacle here in trying to keep Hunter.

WARRIORS BASKETBALL!!! Patiently waiting for a title...I may be waiting for a long time...

by JustSomeName on Dec 1, 2009 1:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Did anyone watch pregame stats?

When Barnet and Fitzgerald were showed our stats in games with and without Stephen Jackson? Can somebody explain to me why we are averaging less assists without Jackson even though the ball movement looks alot better? Also, our FG% 3PT% and PPG are all lower without Jackson. Makes no sense..

WARRIORS BASKETBALL!!! Patiently waiting for a title...I may be waiting for a long time...

by JustSomeName on Dec 1, 2009 12:39 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

important stat: 3-4

vs. 6 playoff teams, 5 on road.

by tafkasam on Dec 1, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Can we officially say

that it isn’t Nellie’s “handling” of AR which accounts for his struggles – but rather his lack of a real NBA game.

John 8:44 -Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.

by triplesix on Dec 1, 2009 12:45 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

+1

I always thought giving him freedom in games would help develop him. But I now understand that its not Nellie, but AR himself, that needs to calm down. And play within himself and calm himself down in games and not try to do too much. Like someone said on this site somewhere, AR has not seen a drive into multiple defenders he didn’t like.

WARRIORS BASKETBALL!!! Patiently waiting for a title...I may be waiting for a long time...

by JustSomeName on Dec 1, 2009 12:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

He actually looked control though until he got injured

Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "You're a rookie"

by dubzfan on Dec 1, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

yup, 12 points in 11 minutes... not bad.

remember the crossover, stop, back pivot, step back he nailed? awesome.

by NaturalBornBaller on Dec 1, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Remember the 360 spin move in front of four defenders that turned into a turnover? Not so awesome.

WARRIORS BASKETBALL!!! Patiently waiting for a title...I may be waiting for a long time...

by JustSomeName on Dec 1, 2009 2:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not really his fault he was under control but it was just a good play by them on that

Overall he had a good game in limited time

Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "You're a rookie"

by dubzfan on Dec 1, 2009 2:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

True

He has slowly gotten better and has done less head scratching things on the court. But he still has a long way to go from anything close to being consistent.

WARRIORS BASKETBALL!!! Patiently waiting for a title...I may be waiting for a long time...

by JustSomeName on Dec 1, 2009 2:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah his post offense looked real good

And was under control the whole time

Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "You're a rookie"

by dubzfan on Dec 1, 2009 2:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

As the offense sputtered, Monta took the situation into his own hands

This is what was most impressive. Some comments noted that he only had 1 assist – but he was passing to guys in the first quarter and they weren’t finishing. All of a sudden we are down double digits and he just had to start scoring to keep us in the game.

Now 7 TO’s is another story – he has got to lock that down and it’s nice to hear that he even admitted to sloppy TO’s in the post game; but he now leads the league in that category.

John 8:44 -Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.

by triplesix on Dec 1, 2009 12:51 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

And that's why assist numbers aren't a great way of judging passing
but he was passing to guys in the first quarter and they weren’t finishing.

Exactly. Because assists only count when the shooter makes the shot. We need an “assist attempt” category.

by IQofaWarrior on Dec 1, 2009 4:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Much like Jax’s assist numbers right? Jax seemed to always hold onto the ball each chance he got so that he could either shoot the ball, or pass it so that he would get the assist.

by Badly Browned on Dec 1, 2009 4:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

I don’t think there’s an official stat that can really tell the story on ball movement.

by IQofaWarrior on Dec 1, 2009 4:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Did anyone see how barren/ unused/ unfrequented the INdy SB site is?

Thank you Warriors fans for keeping the discussion lively and interesting. At least we know we’re in this together.

by NaturalBornBaller on Dec 1, 2009 1:08 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Ssssshhhh....

You will upset the tumbleweeds….

GSOM Blog Beast!

by BritWarriorGSW on Dec 1, 2009 4:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Monta isn’t even getting the superstar treatment yet! No way Kobe, Wade, or LBJ fouls out on that horrible charging call on a night they set a career high for points. Just wait until the refs start to respect game.

We are in desperate need of a solid perimeter defender/rebounder. Somehow, someway, Riley needs to get Gerald Wallace onto this team.

Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!

by Supafishal on Dec 1, 2009 1:55 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'd G-Force......

Or if possible, Iguodala. He’d be a perfect fit for the team.
Nice defender, very clutch, likes to push the tempo and can dish tha ball nicely.

by Richboievans on Dec 1, 2009 4:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

At this point, they should just let Mikki go and keep Hunter

Moore isn’t too terrible but he’s quite old in NBA years and isn’t 100% healthy too at the moment. A guy like Hunter can help the team as he’s a big body like the W’s desperately need and he knows he has to prove his worth every minute he’s on the floor or he might be back in the D-League.

Win the inning.

by Scooter Ellis on Dec 1, 2009 2:06 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Worth a shot

does anyone doubt that MM would not have finished those plays that CH did last night.

John 8:44 -Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.

by triplesix on Dec 1, 2009 2:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

But as I posted above you. I’d rather keep Moore (and Claxton for that matter) than George at this point.

WARRIORS BASKETBALL!!! Patiently waiting for a title...I may be waiting for a long time...

by JustSomeName on Dec 1, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ahhh...Devean George, the oft-forgotten man

I know they traded for him as an expiring contract but I don’t think he’ll ever see the court this season and if he does, I doubt he’ll contribute much.

I haven’t been following the W’s cap room for 2010-2011 but do they have enough for a superstar player given the free agent class this upcoming summer?

Win the inning.

by Scooter Ellis on Dec 1, 2009 3:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes and no.

But paying somebody 10-15 mil will not simply solve all our issues. For one, if this superstar is hypothetically getting paid more than Monta, it will cause some more chemistry and locker room issues. Another thing, if we do sign this hypothetical superstar 10-15 mil, we would not have the money to resign our younger players in Wright, Randolph, Azubuike, etc, etc. I agree that we are in dire need of a 2nd option to play next to monta and to take some of the pressure off of him, but how we get to that is another question…

WARRIORS BASKETBALL!!! Patiently waiting for a title...I may be waiting for a long time...

by JustSomeName on Dec 1, 2009 3:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We already resigned Wright and Randolph. I am clueless on how contracts go, but with Buike out for the season he can’t ask for too much can’t he? So really it comes down to resigning Morrow.

by Badly Browned on Dec 1, 2009 4:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We don’t have any cap space this summer. As of now we have $53M committed for next season – the cap is projected to be somewhere between $51-54M or so.

by Missing Barry on Dec 1, 2009 7:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice call on C.J. Watson's haircut ...

I couldn’t tell if he wanted to go with the flat top or if he was going with a really wide Mohawk. Very odd stuff.

Interested to know if you guys would rather see Hunter out there in Moore’s place? After watching last night’s game I walked away wondering what Hunter could do with more minutes and couldn’t figure out why Moore played at all.

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by Nate Timmons on Dec 1, 2009 2:19 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

easily swayed

one decent game doesn’t make up for all his past ills, and is no great indicator of future performance. i think we should temper our praise for monta until the all-star break. he certainly has a lot more freedom now to do what he wants since jax is gone, so let’s see if this trend continues, as we all certainly hope it does.

Also, PLEASE GET MORROW INVOLVED EVEN MORE. thanks.

by Davidlu on Dec 1, 2009 3:21 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Ummm....

Hi, welcome to GSoM. Clearly, you have not been watching Warriors basketball for the last 2 weeks. He’s been playing above his head for a solid 6 games including defensively shutting down Brandon Roy and Danny Granger, as well as averaging 35ppg on 25 shots and setting 2 career high scoring totals in his last 3 games. It’s not “one game,” it’s a few games and all indications are that he’s playing much, much, much better than he was before Jax left.

You have been DFiBrillated.

by Dubs fan in Boston on Dec 1, 2009 3:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

well, that is still a pretty small sample size in comparison to his entire career, but the early returns are very encouraging.

heart of a champion, will of the warrior.

by cap'n hack on Dec 1, 2009 4:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We've seen offensive brilliance and efficiency from Monta before

I have every expectation that he’ll get at least somewhat back towards that. The difference now is that he’s the main guy. He’s not deferring to Jax, he’s not deferring to Baron. It’s Monta’s team. He may tail off a little, but I think it’s fair to expect something around 25ppg on 50% shooting from him going forwards. It’s less efficient than he was in 07/08 but higher volume. He seems to be trying harder at defending, but we’ll see how that continues.

You have been DFiBrillated.

by Dubs fan in Boston on Dec 1, 2009 4:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

the defense is what has me so excited about this stretch. he’s not exactly scottie pippen out there, but he looks a hell of a lot better than what we’ve come to expect.

heart of a champion, will of the warrior.

by cap'n hack on Dec 1, 2009 4:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

They need to start being agressive more then 5-10

minutes on defensive end and everything will be much easier with much more easy points and open space for Morrow, Monta & Curry to operate. It was so obvious last night that the Pacers were on the plate waiting for the Warriors to eat them. We started to be more agressive and they just surrendered.

by buky on Dec 1, 2009 3:57 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'm still mad he didn't get 50

It may be one of the only chances he will get and everyone wanted to see it happen but a blown call ruined. So sad.

Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "You're a rookie"

by dubzfan on Dec 1, 2009 4:00 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

ruined it*

Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "You're a rookie"

by dubzfan on Dec 1, 2009 4:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think it'll be one of his only chances

to try to get to 50. They do get to play the Timberwolves another two times this year. He normally goes off against the Grizzlies too.

But yeah, he would have easily eclipsed 50 last night. If the call went the other way, he’d be at 48 if he converted the and 1. Damn ref…

This is Kristin Kreuk, now zip it. - GTTM

by disguy on Dec 1, 2009 4:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

and

the last second of the 2nd quarter…he shoulda been at the foul line shooting 2
and there was a layup that barely spun out and corey got it and got fouled…ellis shoulda has 2 more there

52 point game!

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by LostHawkGSW on Dec 1, 2009 4:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

LET'S TRADE MONTA!!!

yeah, eat your words up.

by vinchenzy on Dec 1, 2009 5:27 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

LET'S TRADE MONTA!!!

  Yeah probably the best time is when everyone thinks he’s good and will give us top dollar for him. Who do you have in mind? I’d say a big smart two who can play with Curr-bury.

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Standing on the moon
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At this crescent in the sky

by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 2, 2009 8:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Open Thread

You should put a makeshift one up until the real one appears, if it does appear.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 1, 2009 5:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

5 minutes to go

so i’ll do that now

by IQofaWarrior on Dec 1, 2009 5:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

IQ needs to get to 15,000!

This is Kristin Kreuk, now zip it. - GTTM

by disguy on Dec 1, 2009 5:43 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

i like watson's hair

reminds me of barnes

by dso on Dec 1, 2009 5:52 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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