GAME THREAD #23: Warriors @ Pistons - Diagnosing and Curing The Suck
by Atma Brother ONE on Dec 12, 2009 10:00 AM PST
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Golden State Warriors at Detroit Pistons, Dec 12, 2009 4:30 PM PST
Thank the hoops gods the O.G. Bay Boys aren't around to destroy the Warriors tonight.
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Warriors: 7-15
Pistons: 7-13
Tip-Off: 4:30pm
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The Pistons are coming off a nice, impressive win. see Injuries, What Injuries? Pistons 101, Nuggets 99 [Motown String Music]
The Warriors are not. see RECAP: Warriors 91, Bulls 96 - Brick!
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.318 = 4th Worst Team in the League
Warriors homers, apologists, and mismanagement like to paint us as being negative for saying this, but the truth is this basketball team straight up sucks. The Chicago Bulls had lost 9 out of 10 coming into last night's matchup and a perfect throwback to the Leastern Conference of this decade. That was not a good team the Warriors just lost to.
Not at all.
Newsflash: The 2009-2010 Golden State Warriors are not a good team.
Thank goodness we got jokes.
Diagnosis + Cures
The Warriors are a flat out mess. Here's a few of the major issues and a few solutions. Please add yours in the comments.
Diagnosis: Horrible assist to turnover, turnover, turnover ratio. see Polling GSoM: Will the Golden State Warriors lead the league in turnovers this season?
Cure: Last night's game notwithstanding the biggest culprit has been the Warriors wannabe All-Star Monta Ellis (more on his empty meaningless numbers on a garbage team later). The limited, low hoops IQ guard Chris Mullin/ Robert Rowell foolishly decided to blow up WE BELIEVE for and build around is currently leading the league in turnovers by a wide margin at 4.5. It's not like he's a high volume assister either at 5.3.
Is it all his fault?
Of course not.
Part of it is his teammates just aren't playing very good basketball right now and simply aren't creme de la crem of the NBA talent-wise (apologize if you thought they were with their mythical, untapped upside).
Another part of it is coaching and management. Why this team continues to force him into a point guard role and primary ball handler makes no sense to me.
He's simply not that (point guard) guy.
So many sharp Warriors fans have known this for years. It's not that difficult of a concept to grasp.
The cure is simple. Move Monta off the ball more... a lot more. Make Stephen Curry the primary ball handler and distributor. Sure there's going to be a lot of rookie mistakes early on, but let's see what he can do. We already know what Monta can do.
Make Curry the distributor and Monta the scorer.
Diagnosis: The Warriors can't buy a bucket at the end of quarters.
Cure: See above. Get the ball out of Ellis' hands. I can't say that enough. If he was coming off the ball I bet he'd have a much more impressive scoring rate on those last possessions.
Diagnosis: The Warriors are getting beat on the glass every single night.
Cure: I don't think he'll make the biggest impact on this team's win total, but when Andris Biedrins comes back this shouldn't be as big of a discrepancy. I'll have to dig deeper a little though.
In the mean time I'd like to see Chris Hunter and Anthony Randolph playing more over Mikki Moore. Not that I don't appreciate MIKEY!'s professional attitude. Not that I don't think MIKEY! is a decent 3rd or 4th string center for this team. Not that I don't think MIKEY! isn't trying. Not that I don't think MIKEY! hasn't had some good moments for this team this year.
It's just that giving him all this playing time is somewhat pointless.
I know Coach Keith Smart isn't that big of a fan of Hunter, but hey- it's not like playing MIKEY! so many minutes is producing all that much. Hunter has been pretty solid and has earned some PT in my book.
I know Randolph can be a complete disaster most of the time and he seems like exactly the wrong young guy to gift wrap playing time too, but hey- it's not like MIKEY! has really earned all that PT this season. I do understand the decision to start MIKEY! over AR to position Randolph against backup players and prevent him from picking up early frustrating fouls though.
Diagnosis: I'm fairly certain that unless there's a major shakeup this team is not making the playoffs... again. That means that between 1994 and 2010 the Warriors have only made the playoffs ONCE. Pitiful.
Cure: Sell the team Chris Cohan. (Sorry if it seems like I'm repeating this ad naseum. I guess I am.) From what I've gathered the past 2 years from various folks Cohan is looking to sell, it's just a matter of time and for what price.
Well hurry up already!
This franchise needs an owner that will give Don Nelson a talented veteran team for a last grand finale. I'm confident Larry Riley can steer the ship in the right way given the resources. Unfortunately we might never know.
Predictions
- Monta Ellis scores 25+ points but has 5+ turnovers
- Aside from the Ellis turnovers, Ben Gordon's statline looks eerily like Monta's.
- Anthony Morrow aka Mr. GSoM Night 8 snaps out of yesterday's shooting funk. Chocolate rain ya'll!
- Tonight's Warrior Killer: I give you none other that Swedish product Jonas Jerebko
- Warriors by 1
"Whatcha Gonna Do?"
Hopefully not lose to another bad team... again.
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I don't see a win in the cards for us
mostly due to fatigue and the grind that has been this early part of the schedule. Can’t wait for the January schedule, 7 game 2 week home stand.
I'll be at the game tonight
Not expecting much, but I’ll still be rocking my early 90s warriors cap. My boyfriend is taking me for my birthday, so LGW!
Wow yee with little faith
The Warriors should have definitely beat the Bulls last night handily, the problem was that the Warriors were missing shots that would most of the time be made. Specfically Anthony Morrow he had at least three threes last night that looked like they were in, but just wouldn’t stay down.
I don’t see another bad shooting night for Morrow, I see him having a big game against the Pistons.
Also, if the Warriors want to win this game Keith Smart has to make better decisions with his substitution methods as well. Give Monta Ellis some rest in the first and second.
Damn my Photoshopping is so FLY
It’s a lovely day out here in MI – a good sunny 30 degrees. I wish I could go to the game, but alas, other things are getting in the way of my fun for the weekend.
Do I think we can win this game? Heck no. We’re playing like trash, we should have won last night, but our “fearless leader” isn’t really ready to lead the team. Sure he’s got the stats, but at the end of it all it doesn’t matter if he doesn’t close out games.
I’m pretty sure we should have won last night’s game in the 4th but instead, Number 8 came up weak.
Hooray for another loss!
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I would say
That the game was lost in the third quarter when Mr. Smart didn’t put back in the lineup that had gotten them the lead. Meaning Watson, Randolph, and Maggette should have been out on the floor.
Game Predictions
- The Detroit Pistons defeat our Golden State Warriors, 106-102.
- Anthony Morrow leads the way with 24 points.
- Stephen Curry collects five steals.
- Warrior killer: Will Bynum has a huge night being a former Warrior and all.
- Someone gets a technical foul.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 12:34 PM PST reply actions
Yes, Randolph looks 'awful' to the tune of 18.81 PER
He blocks shots and gets boards. He’s played WELL, dammit. Stop with the Nellie brainwashing, the lineups are inexcusable. Every NBA writer (Pelton, Dwyer, Hollinger, Thorpe, Simmons) thinks he should get more PT on this laughingstock.
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Ya seriously
His rebounding per minute played is ‘awful’. LOL
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Tonight's Warrior Killer: I give you none other that Swedish product Jonas Jerebko
I bet that prediction will be dead on. Jerebko is the worst kind of player against the Warriors, he both hustles for offensive rebounds and shoots threes.
by samuraaaaiiiiiii on Dec 12, 2009 2:03 PM PST reply actions
Tip off time?
DTV says 4 30. This says 5 30. When is the game?
Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "You're a rookie"
eastern time zone
Mi is the state furthest west that lies entirely in the eastern time zone—though its upper peninsula extends well into central zone territory. Ind, Ken, Tn all get to enjoy having their states split between the two zones.
Liar
It’s 4:19 p.m. right now!
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 4:19 PM PST up reply actions
4:30pm Start Time
My bad. Thanks for pointing that out guys.
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by Atma Brother ONE on Dec 12, 2009 4:27 PM PST up reply actions
This Pistons team is kinda underrated
Even when they lost 7 straight a lot of those were close games and they’ve really come together in the last week or so winning 4 of 5 (including a close one in Denver). They’ve gotten used to playing without Rip and Tayshaun and even with Ben Gordon out, Will Bynum and Rodney Stuckey have picked up the scoring with a little help from Jonas Jerebko and Charlie Villinueva.
Pistons by 7.
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we’ve been in most of our games too last time we were blown out was i think against Denver. Are we underated too?
by Loveisforfree on Dec 12, 2009 2:45 PM PST up reply actions
Have you won 4 of 5? Did you beat Denver?:
If so maybe
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by Wasabi Steak on Dec 12, 2009 4:30 PM PST up reply actions
damn
hope Will Bynum don’t do these type of ankle breakers on us.
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by 24k state fan since 87 on Dec 12, 2009 2:33 PM PST reply actions
oops
meant rodney stuckey
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by 24k state fan since 87 on Dec 12, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions
Little of topic but
I think Rudy Gay won’t stay in Memphis next year so would this be a good deal for both teams??
Warriors get: Rudy Gay
Memphis get: C.J. Watson Kelena Azubuike
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Rudy Gay
To say he doesn’t pass is a lie. The guy can score from anywhere on the court with great size and speed. He rebounds at a high rate and will definitely contribute defensively. He’s better than Azubuike in every aspect of the game, basically, except for maybe three-point shooting and Gay can make that up.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 3:42 PM PST up reply actions
Continuing
Also, I know it’s early, but Gay is only 23 who is averaging a career-high or is currently tied for a career-high in points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks and field goal percentage. The guy has only begun to scratch the surface.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
Ummmm
1.7 assists per game for his career! 5.5 rebounds per game, come on Ellis almost average as many rebounds as Gay. Defenisvely he’s above average, but his offense is stagnant.
Stats
20.3 points, 6.6 rebounds, 2.0 assists, 1.7 steals, 1.0 blocks and 47 percent shooting? Yeah, I’m generally opposed to those kinds of players that are also only 23 years old.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
Yep
Look at his per 36 minutes, look at the fact he plays 40 plus minutes a night, if Azubuike got that he’d be averaging near those numbers maybe not in the steals, but before he went down Azubuike was average 1.4 blocks per game.
No
You’re a moron if you think Azubuike can average those numbers if they played the same amount of minutes. You just don’t get it. You don’t watch Gay play basketball. Gay can score against any defender, can hit turnaround jumpers from the wing and can take anybody off the dribble. Azubuike doesn’t have his offensive ability and Azubuike’s rebounding numbers won’t necessarily match Gay’s if they were to play the same amount of time.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 4:37 PM PST up reply actions
No
The Grizzlies won’t want to rip themselves off.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
Obviously
It doesn’t take a brain surgeon to figure out which player is better right now and which player has a ton of potential still remaining.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
So what player is better right now? and what player has a ton of potential still remaining? are you saying the Azu doent have a ton of potential? because i think we can say the same thinkg about Azu not scratching the suface
by Loveisforfree on Dec 12, 2009 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
Please
Don’t even try to argue that Azubuike has Gay’s potential or is even as good as Gay is right now. Save yourself the embarrassment.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
You make it sound like rudy is this god and Buike is a scrub.
by Loveisforfree on Dec 12, 2009 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
No
You obviously don’t know what I’m saying. If you get that little conclusion from me saying that Azubuike doesn’t have Gay’s potential, you’re a biased homer. Gay is clearly better right now. Gay clearly has more potential considering his success right now as a 23-year-old. If you think Azubuike is better or will be better than Gay is in the future, you don’t know a single thing about basketball.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 4:23 PM PST up reply actions
I don't see anything that says
that Gay is significantly better. I see that Gay plays more minutes and takes more shots, and that’s the only difference.
Funny
I see everything that says Gay is clearly better and clearly has more potential.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
He actually does has his potential no homer
by Loveisforfree on Dec 12, 2009 4:48 PM PST up reply actions
Potential
Gay has more. It’s that simple.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 4:49 PM PST up reply actions
that might be true
but buike is not that far behind, and you have to be a homer to admit that azu is good
by Loveisforfree on Dec 12, 2009 4:59 PM PST up reply actions
Homer
You don’t have to be a homer to admit that Azubuike is good. You have to be a homer to think he’s better than Gay or that he has more potential than Gay. I know that Azubuike is a good, solid player.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:00 PM PST up reply actions
Azubuike vs Gay
Career per 36 minutes
Azubuike 15.6 points per game, 6 rebounds per game, 1.7 assists per game, .9 steals per game, .7 blocks per game, and 1.4 turnovers per game.
Shooting wise 45.9 percent, 40.9 from three point land, and 77 percent from the free throw line.
Gay’s career per 36 minutes numbers are 17.8 points per game, 5.8 rebounds per game, 1.8 assists per game, 1.3 steals per game, .9 blocksper game, and 2.4 turnovers per game.
He shoots at 45.2 percent from the field, 35 percent from three, and 75.7 percent from the free throw line.
Before Azubuike’s injury his per 36 minutes numbers were well ahead of Gay’s this year.
Also, just because Gay is 23 doesn’t really mean much considering Azubuike is only two years older.
Also
Let’s not forget Gay is a small forward and Azubuike is a shooting guard who averages per 36 minutes more rebounds then Gay is.
Sorry
I don’t judge players based on 36 minutes of playing time. I judge players on what they do. Gay averages 20.3 points, Azubuike doesn’t. Gay averages 6.6 rebounds, Azubuike doesn’t. Gay averages 1.7 steals, Azubuike doesn’t. Gay can score from anywhere on the court, Azubuike can’t. Gay can take anybody off the dribble and get to rim, Azubuike can’t. Also, yeah, Gay being more than two years younger Azubuike means something.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 4:33 PM PST up reply actions
You really are something
If you beieve that Azubuike can’t score from anywher eon the court. Who’s the better shooter I’ll give you a hint it’s not Gay.
Azubuike
He can’t hit those turnaround jumpers like Gay. He isn’t taking people off the dribble like Gay. He isn’t finishing around the rim like Gay. He isn’t as quick as Gay.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 4:38 PM PST up reply actions
That's funny
Azubuike can finish at the rim just as if not better than Gay. So Gay has a turnaround jumper, a low percentage shot. Azubuike has the three point bomb in his repertoire, which Gay does not.
Gay
Just because he doesn’t shoot as well from downtown as Azubuike doesn’t mean he doesn’t have it in his arsenal. Gay can hit the trey.
Gay doesn’t only have the turnaround jumper. He takes people off the dribble a lot better than Azubuike.
Azubuike can play 40 minutes like Gay does in Memphis, but he’s not going to average over 20 points a night and nor will he average 6.6 rebounds and 1.7 steals.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 4:44 PM PST up reply actions
He might get those rebounds, and maybe steals.
40 minutes is a long time to play.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 12, 2009 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
Just did some quick math
Using the last 16 games of the season (where he averaged 39+ MPG, and he started), he got 6.2 rebounds per game.
Less than one steal a game. (about .7)
18.6 PPG during this period.
Rudy Gay is definitely the better player, and we all kinda knew that. With similar minutes, Buike could probably put up similar numbers.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 12, 2009 5:11 PM PST up reply actions
We're not making the playoffs..
So why are we playing Mikkie, Vlad, CJ (who won’t be here next season) over Hunter, Randolph and Curry who all have some potential?
Why wouldn’t you be playing Hunter more to see if he is worth re-signing after this season? Especially since we have NO big bodies active besides him..
Richard Hamilton is back tonight. Pistons by 22
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there's got to be something Smart sees in Randolph that's keeping him from playing more than Moore
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 12, 2009 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
I've yet to hear/read anything, and I in my infinit wisdom cant think of anything really
so no, there’s nothing
i haven't read anything either so I'll speculate.
Perhaps Smart needs Moore out there as a “communicator” on the floor to call out screens or give tips or whatever. I’ve read that he is emerging as “a leader”, certainly a vocal guy. Randolph doesn’t have that right now. Perhaps Smart is waiting for Randolph to “accept” and “own” the position of backup center, to know all of the plays smoothly without needing to think about it. Perhaps Smart is waiting for Randolph to show consistent play and production from the backup center spot.
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 12, 2009 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
2, though, it was only 2 shots
I cant understand not just telling him you dont like those shots, and sending him back out
that was my guess two
particularly with those 2 airballs. When I rewatched his last stint, those two shots looked like OK shots to take, but AR airballed them both. Perhaps Smart was worried that Randolph was forcing those 2 shots, and worried that AR was tensing up under the pressure of the game.
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 12, 2009 4:41 PM PST up reply actions
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Going with the Pistons for this tonight, my bad folks..
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Bynum not playing
Thank god..
And in before 100 FT’s for Stuckey.
Wallace
He took the first shot of the night? I would never have guessed it.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 4:44 PM PST reply actions
lolwut
Mickey what are you doing, you are not Monta
Doubtful
Moore is already back out there.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 4:47 PM PST up reply actions
Curry
After getting swatted, he missed it totally flat.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 4:48 PM PST reply actions
Sigh..
that’s how we played in 2nd half yesterday
Stuckey!
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Radmanovic
That was a bad shot.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 4:49 PM PST reply actions
More losing by choice
That’s what Nellie and Smart do. No Randolph, Vladdy chucking, no rebounding
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Maxiell is eating them babies early
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Lolwut?
so if somebody pushes you out of double team it’s a travel?
retards..
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Play stopped because Mikki has a stream of blood dripping from the corner of his right eye. Chris Hunter thought he was going in, but …
… Abdenour got the blood stopped in time and Mikki usurped his authority. It prompted a playful robotic walk back to the bench by Hunter
pistons style extremely half court
not good for us
question: Has smart played hunter?
@Mavs, 0 minutes
@Spurs, nearly 10 min, i think that was garbage time
@Denver 26 minutes, but that was a blowout
@Thunder 7:30, probably garbage time
@Nets, 0 minutes
@Bulls, 0 minutes
i think i read that hunter's still trying to learn the plays
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 12, 2009 4:56 PM PST up reply actions
yes, i know
i have no idea why smart doesn’t play hunter. i can only speculate what’s going through smart’s head
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 12, 2009 4:59 PM PST up reply actions
oh i see, that rip hamilton 10,000 record was specific to detroit pistons
i thought it was career total
im so tired of how scared the warriors look when they face any team
that shows aggression. They need to grow som you know what at attack. They always look like they want to bow down and get punked.
Start for us in the absence of our starters
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 12, 2009 4:57 PM PST up reply actions
still makes no sense.
AR should be playing 35 min a night. he’s never going to do anything here if they continue to sit him like this.
Definitely
I was just remarking that they aren’t really our starters.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 12, 2009 5:00 PM PST up reply actions
I would love to see one or more Warriors playing defense
Also, executing a play in a halfcourt set would be nice to see.
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curry from the baseline, just missed it
nice play to get himself free
Hamilton
Defense isn’t his strong suit.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 4:59 PM PST reply actions
Normally it is
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by Wasabi Steak on Dec 12, 2009 5:00 PM PST up reply actions
morrow needs to learn from Ray Allen and Rip City on the benifit
of moving around to get your shot. I wonder if any of the coaching staff is even thinking of teaching that skill.
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i asked him that before game. Smart said “you’ll see him tonight.” @shaunakmorrow22 what the heck is up w/ smart not playing hunter AT ALL.
Smart said it was a flow issue. I think he thinks Hunter doesn’t fit uptempo @shaunakmorrow22 does he not like Hunter? whats REAL reason?
I assume by 'flow'
Smart means the steady progression of opposing players dribbling to the basket for dunks and layups. Hunter could slow down that ‘flow’.
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Maggette
I blame him.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:02 PM PST up reply actions
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Morrow is 0-for-2, making him 6 for his last 24. Mikki Moore is 16-for-20 on the road trip so far. Go figure
Say "WE SUCK" if you think Anthony Randolph needs to be in this game right now
Coach SMART, needs to GET SMART
Free Agent
He signed there before the season started.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:05 PM PST up reply actions
Skin Condition
He can’t grow hair. He doesn’t even have eyebrows.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:07 PM PST up reply actions
Curry
I like that finish with the opposite hand.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:07 PM PST reply actions
CJ is easily my favorite Warrior the past few games
Unassuming but fairly deadly.
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 12, 2009 5:08 PM PST reply actions
well, that's one way to close the qtr
get fouled on that screen
Daye
That dude may have been able to benefit from staying at Gonzaga for a few more years.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:09 PM PST reply actions
Stuckey
I thought he was going to hit that.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:10 PM PST reply actions
you think correctly
no turnovers so far
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 12, 2009 5:11 PM PST up reply actions
I honestly have no clue, they're not bad
just so incredibly bland. It’s like a couple librarians are doing play by play
But George Blaha is one of the best announcers as far as regional commentators go
“Count that baby and a foul”>>>>>>>
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by Wasabi Steak on Dec 12, 2009 5:13 PM PST up reply actions
Nice run for the Dubs
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Warrriorrrsss.....
DE-FENSE!
* clap-clap *
DE-FENCE!
* CLAP-CLAP *
A Chris Hunter sighting.
A-mo…get hot. get off that cold streak. Move around!
Put in AR!
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by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Dec 12, 2009 5:13 PM PST reply actions
interesting stat
Bob says Warriors holding opponents down to 40% fg on opponent initial shots, but get killed on second chance shots
Maggette
Gosh, he forced Villanueva to miss and then he grabbed a rebound on the offensive end. He’s terrible.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:16 PM PST reply actions
Maybe
We’ll see.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:17 PM PST up reply actions
I think you've made posts like this in every thread I've seen for the past day.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 12, 2009 5:18 PM PST up reply actions
Cool
Would you like a trophy?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:19 PM PST up reply actions
Only if
it has Maggette committing stupid travels on top.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 12, 2009 5:19 PM PST up reply actions
Maggs is a slightly better than average NBA player
Not perfectly suited to the Warriors, but the W’s also play him out of position a lot. Like at center.
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I know that
You don’t need to tell me.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 12, 2009 5:20 PM PST up reply actions
When did the Warriors trade for Kwame Brown?
He’s helping us out a lot.
by samuraaaaiiiiiii on Dec 12, 2009 5:16 PM PST reply actions
No
The winner hasn’t been announced yet.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:18 PM PST up reply actions
We're playing great
We usually play good in the 2nd so we can disappoint everyone in the 3rd
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Where is Randolph?
Seriously, I think hes been playing great and under control lately. I never thought he would get more time under Nelly than with Smart
by thebeatlephil97 on Dec 12, 2009 5:21 PM PST reply actions
wait till our other bigs get healthy
we’ll never see him again
by Loveisforfree on Dec 12, 2009 5:22 PM PST up reply actions
That exactly what I'm thinkin
If he can’t get PT with no bigs, hes screwed when beans is back. I hate our management.
by thebeatlephil97 on Dec 12, 2009 5:23 PM PST up reply actions
Nah, he'll see plenty of time at the 4
It’s Mikki Moore who won’t see any playing time. And Chris Hunter, not that’s he’s getting much now. AR will back up Radmanovic at the 4.
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I just dont undersand
as unhealthy as we are especially our bigs, why hes not playing atleast 30 mins a night
by Loveisforfree on Dec 12, 2009 5:26 PM PST up reply actions
Dunks
They made Shaq look like a record-breaking shooter. What’s your point? Dunks make everyone’s percentage go up.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:22 PM PST up reply actions
i was just thinking about the argument
that maggette is an efficient scorer, and that’s why fans shouldn’t boo him. And it occurred to me that those stats treat dunks and layups the same as long shots. The fans are booing maggette for his long shots, not for his dunks or layups. Stats won’t show that.
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 12, 2009 5:23 PM PST up reply actions
Fans
They boo Maggette because they need someone to piss on.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:24 PM PST up reply actions
I know right
the fans are all just spiteful, angry people.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 12, 2009 5:25 PM PST up reply actions
Booing
They’ll boo Maggette and only Maggette.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:26 PM PST up reply actions
"LOLWTFBBQ"
Yeah.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:25 PM PST up reply actions
Age
Yeah, let’s bring that into the equation from the guy with “thizz” in his user name that is the one actually talking like the kid.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:28 PM PST up reply actions
aw nah
you did not just diss the movement
by Loveisforfree on Dec 12, 2009 5:29 PM PST up reply actions
Whoa
No, son. Dog, I ain’t be dissin’ the movement.
This one is over your head. This has nothing to do with “a movement.”
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:30 PM PST up reply actions
Wait, you're really 15?
No wonder you don’t understand statistics or know how to argue.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 12, 2009 5:29 PM PST up reply actions
and has to insult people
in order to make a point
by Loveisforfree on Dec 12, 2009 5:30 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry
I didn’t insult 123707THIZZ. He insulted me. Learn how to read.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:31 PM PST up reply actions
You also called Rocky a moron
And i’m pretty sure you insulted me. You don’t have to get angry little bro
by Loveisforfree on Dec 12, 2009 5:33 PM PST up reply actions
Insults
I called him a moron for thinking Azubuike was better than Gay. Me calling him a moron wasn’t the sole point. I’m not angry. No one is yelling here, bud. Stay out of this conversation since it never really concerning you.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:35 PM PST up reply actions
sure kid you're not angry
thats why you have to be the last one to reply on every you post right?
by Loveisforfree on Dec 12, 2009 5:40 PM PST up reply actions
Anger
That’s not what it’s called, dude. It’s called replying back.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:41 PM PST up reply actions
Wow
That was an insult? Well, if you say so.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:35 PM PST up reply actions
Yes
I heard it was nice to have subject lines. I learned it on the A’s blog.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:39 PM PST up reply actions
No
I’m actually 12 and I do understand statistics. I’m actually criticized by some on the A’s blog for reading too much into them sometimes. I understand that Gay is better than Azubuike. I also do understand how to argue. It’s how I won the argument last night concerning Maggette thanks to an assist from Homer Simpson.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:31 PM PST up reply actions
Also, RRS represents for Raiders, A's, and Warriors
He’s a solid kid and a pleasure to have around on all the SB sites.
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California
Don’t forget about the Golden Bears.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:35 PM PST up reply actions
Ouch
Are you a Stanford guy?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:58 PM PST up reply actions
no, they're booing because he misses long shots terribly
i mean, you can hear the crowd tell him not to shoot when he’s around the perimeter. It’s his long range shots that the crowd gets restless about.
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 12, 2009 5:27 PM PST up reply actions
Obviously
It’s his long range shots that the crowd gets restless about.
Only Maggette’s range gets questioned.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:29 PM PST up reply actions
only maggette's shot keeps missing terribly, or airballs,
or hits the side of the backboard. It has happened enough times to be noticeable and drain the patience of fans.
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 12, 2009 5:30 PM PST up reply actions
the "flow" isn't right for AR, according to Smart
by randolphforpresident on Dec 12, 2009 5:23 PM PST reply actions
that shouldn't matter.
he’s some of the only size we have and he’s shown consistent hustle when he’s in.
im not going to blame Randolph when he walks from this team and becomes a star elsewhere.
get him some burn Smart. jeeze.
Someone should start a "www.PlayRandolph.com" website. that would be pimp.
by thebeatlephil97 on Dec 12, 2009 5:25 PM PST reply actions
Sure. Give me $80 to get it started.
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 12, 2009 5:26 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry
It’s a worthless cause.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:27 PM PST up reply actions
Is saying "gift of a superstar" really that difficult to say?
Even Fitz was having trouble saying that.
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 12, 2009 5:25 PM PST reply actions
I always thought he was able to do that
Pre-Moped era.
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 12, 2009 5:28 PM PST up reply actions
It was as much as the call on the Monta shot on the other end
If we’re talking about the same call.
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Is anyone else losing hope in Smart as well?
by thebeatlephil97 on Dec 12, 2009 5:29 PM PST reply actions
We should start a petition to have Barnett coach
by thebeatlephil97 on Dec 12, 2009 5:31 PM PST up reply actions
Petitions
Yeah, they’re really effective!
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:32 PM PST up reply actions
he contradicts himself too much.
i dont quite know if he wants to be a grind it out coach or run n gun.
It's not Smart.It's everyone..
Don’t even start pointing fingers.
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Dec 12, 2009 5:30 PM PST up reply actions
Smart
He’s just filling in right now. He isn’t the long-term answer, of course.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:33 PM PST up reply actions
Tom Thibodeau
I hope he’s the long-term answer.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:36 PM PST up reply actions
that would be sweet.
someone who teaches D would be nice.
Something is probably going on behind the scenes...
Who knows.Why would Smart want to hurt the Warriors.
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Dec 12, 2009 5:33 PM PST up reply actions
not hurt them. i just dont think he knows what he's doing.
thought he would give Randolph quality time.
A lot of people have said that
Since day 1.
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 12, 2009 5:31 PM PST up reply actions
Ive said forever that the dubs need new blood and not anyone that has
been here with nellie’s influence. We need to clean house and im talkin bout the coaching staff and not the players.
Gotta get rid of Nellie first
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by Wasabi Steak on Dec 12, 2009 5:33 PM PST up reply actions
argh, touch foul
that should be a hard foul
YES! Finally something worth watching! Minus Monta of course
by thebeatlephil97 on Dec 12, 2009 5:34 PM PST reply actions
The Immortal Kwame Brown...
"Don't wait till im gone to say I was the best"-NaS
Certified Kristin Kreuk obsessive...
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
Randolph mistake there
not recognizing the play, not running towards the basket so he can receive a dish off
Curryyyy *shakes head*
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that's an example of how Moore plays ahead of Randolph
Moore probably would have recognized the play and ran in to receive the pass and dunk
Gosh
“Moore is the worst player in the world, though! He’s tied with Radmanovic!”
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:38 PM PST up reply actions
the main point is that these are the elements that we don't see
but coaches do that drives them nuts
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 12, 2009 5:38 PM PST up reply actions
I think you can still bring the blame back to the coaches though. Monta probably would have finished that play at the rim, whereas Curry looks to pass. The problem is, we switch who is playing point guard every other game.
by samuraaaaiiiiiii on Dec 12, 2009 5:39 PM PST up reply actions
good point.
don’t think he was expecting to be passed to there. they seem to ignore him on offense from time to time.
were just fundamentally an awful defensive team besides Curry.
coaching scheme is trash and players lose focus on D too often.
Randolph played more then he would have that instinct by now playing with curry
dont blame him, blame the system and the coaching. Prime example of their poor structure.
Oooooh that was vicious Charlie V
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Well, Vlad was "guarding" him
Anyone would be excited about that
by Bellringer21 on Dec 12, 2009 5:41 PM PST up reply actions
Here come the Pistons
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pissing us off..
seriously, we don’t care about pistons
Fine
Ignore the person, then. That person can comment however he or she pleases.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:43 PM PST up reply actions
What? Im not cheering, but they stormed back
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by Wasabi Steak on Dec 12, 2009 5:44 PM PST up reply actions
You spelt it wrong b..
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by Wasabi Steak on Dec 12, 2009 5:45 PM PST up reply actions
Who's that girl?
you always have the same girl with different pictures
by Loveisforfree on Dec 12, 2009 5:46 PM PST up reply actions
Morrow
He’s really struggling.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:42 PM PST up reply actions
Could relate to the death in his family...
He hasn’t played well since that happened.
by samuraaaaiiiiiii on Dec 12, 2009 5:43 PM PST up reply actions
he's more than just spot shooter.
havent seen it yet.
bigger players really seem to bother Morrow
by randolphforpresident on Dec 12, 2009 5:52 PM PST up reply actions
Stephen Curry
Sucks, I’m sick of his pathetic turnovers! 99.9 percent of them are on him! Keep him on the bench where he belongs unless he learns how to take care of the ball. For a player who’s dad was in the NBA he sucks at fundamentals and proves why he should have stayed at Davidson
lol really?
Complaining about turnovers when Monta leads the league.
by samuraaaaiiiiiii on Dec 12, 2009 5:44 PM PST up reply actions
Awesome
I, too, love to judge players on whether they’re not good just two months into the season.
While you’re at it, fire Bob Gregory!
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:44 PM PST up reply actions
And the winner for worst defensive coordinator in the Pac-10 goes to.....
Bob Gregory for the pathetic defense Cal had! Coming in runner up Washington State’s defensive coordinator, but hey at least Washington State had an excuse they’re rebuilding, Cal has no excuse.
Morrow = Barnes 2.0
Played well until a family death now that it’s his contract season we’re not gonna re-sign him and he’ll play for another team.
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That's where he's effective
If he keeps doing it, he’ll go back to being a foul-drawing machine.
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important note: Maggette is playing at the 3 right now.
by samuraaaaiiiiiii on Dec 12, 2009 5:46 PM PST up reply actions
good point
if we had biedrins/turiaf/wright/randolph all available in the front, maggette would be back at the 3
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 12, 2009 5:48 PM PST up reply actions
Ok, Ok
Corey is having a nice night. More of this please Corey.
that's new
the last play went to maggette, almost lost the ball to a steal, but got bailed out because he did get fouled
Interesting
For some reason I didn’t realize you can call a time out in between free throws.
In a way it’s like calling a time out right before a field goal. Disrupts flow.
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 12, 2009 5:48 PM PST reply actions
Halftime
We’ll definitely take a 55-49 lead at the half.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:49 PM PST reply actions
up by 6 at the half
i’ll take it, even though we had a mid qtr collapse
sigh, yeeaaaahhh, sigh
or a 4th qtr close out crash
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 12, 2009 5:51 PM PST up reply actions
4th qtr close out crash
i like it haha.
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why dont we have second half thread?
these full games trhead really lag
by Loveisforfree on Dec 12, 2009 5:51 PM PST up reply actions
i don't know
i guess it has always been this way, having only 1 thread for the whole game
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 12, 2009 5:52 PM PST up reply actions
well, don't go pestering the mods to add a 2nd half thread feature
you know who they’ll assign to open the 2nd thread every game: ME!!! because i’m always here.
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 12, 2009 5:54 PM PST up reply actions
so for god's sake, don't go asking for a second thread!!!
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 12, 2009 5:56 PM PST up reply actions
I'm actually going to personally request you ;)
to open a secon half thread
“Can iq make a second half thread? he said he’d be happy to do it”
by Loveisforfree on Dec 12, 2009 5:59 PM PST up reply actions
I wonder what’s going on with Morrow? I wonder if that death in the family really affected him, like it did Barnes?
It could be that
he isn’t quite back in the rhythm of things.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 12, 2009 5:51 PM PST up reply actions
Steinmetz is right
Monta is very under control tonight. Love to see it.
Jinx
We’re going to win in blowout fashion.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:54 PM PST up reply actions
ESPN
They’re giving the Heisman out right now.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:54 PM PST reply actions
Alabama
It’s hard to believe that they have never had a Heisman winner until right now.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:57 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks for the heads up
I forgot it was on
by Loveisforfree on Dec 12, 2009 5:57 PM PST up reply actions
GS will choke in OT again tonight..
If Bochy coached the Warriors Bengie Molina would start every game at PG.
What makes you say that?
They don’t seem to be playing anywhere near the way we played against the bulls.
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 12, 2009 5:58 PM PST up reply actions
I actually failed to reply to the post above about not jinxing the 3rd or 4th quarters.
If Bochy coached the Warriors Bengie Molina would start every game at PG.
by cybermaldonado on Dec 12, 2009 5:59 PM PST up reply actions
Anthony Morrow is on NBA TV's "All Textbook Team"
Steve Smith says he’s the best shooter in the NBA
Best "young" shooter
I’m pretty sure that’s what he said
by Richboievans on Dec 12, 2009 5:58 PM PST up reply actions
Recognition
That’s good.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:58 PM PST up reply actions
USC
Tell me about it!
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:58 PM PST up reply actions
Defense
It isn’t his game.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 5:59 PM PST up reply actions
Wha?
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by Wasabi Steak on Dec 12, 2009 5:59 PM PST up reply actions
i
hate those teen drinking commercials. they act like its cool for adults to get that drunk but teens its not its hella funny.
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by 24k state fan since 87 on Dec 12, 2009 5:59 PM PST reply actions
How does it imply that it's cool for adults to get drunk?
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 12, 2009 6:00 PM PST up reply actions
well
its more like there are so many commercials for beer and hard liquor and everyone is having fun. but once your daughter does it its like oh noo!
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by 24k state fan since 87 on Dec 12, 2009 6:03 PM PST up reply actions
Haha I suppose, but that's somewhat unrelated
of course alcohol companies will try to make liquor and beer sound fun.
But there’s plenty of commercials about drinking and driving and a lot of news about checkpoints and whatnot. And trust me, those commercials suck just as much.
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 12, 2009 6:09 PM PST up reply actions
Drinking
Adults tend to be more mature.
Also, teenage drinking is out of control. I’m in high school. I know.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 6:00 PM PST up reply actions
+ There's plenty of commercials about adults drinking and driving.
Not to mention it’s party season.
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 12, 2009 6:01 PM PST up reply actions
adults
to be more mature? you have not been to a club and bar yet.
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by 24k state fan since 87 on Dec 12, 2009 6:02 PM PST up reply actions
Adults
They’re more mature than teenagers, yes.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 6:03 PM PST up reply actions
Adults are SOMETIMES more mature
But then again. Adults don’t have a curfew and won’t try to drink and get home before 11.
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 12, 2009 6:04 PM PST up reply actions
well
with drinking i notice it. drunk adults get rowdy fight or will try to have sex with next thing they see. kids just act hella funny and say stuff but thats mostly from what ive seen.
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by 24k state fan since 87 on Dec 12, 2009 6:05 PM PST up reply actions
Keep drinking for a few years
You’ll change…lol.
haha
go to the depressed drunk stage.
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by 24k state fan since 87 on Dec 12, 2009 6:08 PM PST up reply actions
Sad how it happens
Back in HS/College, everyone had so much fun when they drank. Now, they just drink.
Teen Drinking
Has always been out of control. And it always will be if the age remains at 21.
Drinking Age
Lower it to 18 and then you’ll have kids buying Bud Light on the way to school, having them buying it for younger siblings who are in middle school and so on.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 6:05 PM PST up reply actions
In Europe, kids can drink and for the most part, they handle it
It’s culture as much as age.
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Totally off topic
But you must be crazy. And I never said lower it to 18. How about abolish it?
Okay
Beer for everyone, then?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 6:07 PM PST up reply actions
For a sec I took that as abolish alcohol
Because that sure worked in the 1920’s ;)
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 12, 2009 6:09 PM PST up reply actions
HAHA
I guess that’s one option, but as you noted, it didn’t work so good. So, how bout the other extreme?
I don't know about that
Countries with less formal drinking age have less trouble with kids getting really drunk and doing stupid things. It’s a tradeoff between that and more adult alcoholics.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 12, 2009 6:07 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed
Those commercials suck. And I think they imply that adults can handle their liquor more than teens (which may or may not be true), and that teens will get sick when they drink (which is sometimes true).
Drunk
Legally, for the most part, it’s legal for adults to get drunk.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 6:03 PM PST up reply actions
Im flicking between that and the Nas/Damien Marley live panel and this game
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by Wasabi Steak on Dec 12, 2009 6:08 PM PST up reply actions
Looking at the standings
I hate being behind both Sacramento and the Clippers, injuries or no.
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monta scores more points in the paint than howard
so monta is a better center than howard! Har har har
hmm, smart is STILL not playing morrow
i guess morrow’s outmatched against the pistons
damn
they now making ellis rules? like jordan rules
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by 24k state fan since 87 on Dec 12, 2009 6:12 PM PST reply actions
we need AR
we need a shot in the arm on both sides
Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "You're a rookie"
hahaha
down goes the cheerleaders
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by 24k state fan since 87 on Dec 12, 2009 6:13 PM PST reply actions
Ellis tried to help
And ended up smashing on some hos too.
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 12, 2009 6:14 PM PST reply actions
er,
that was monta RECEIVING the pass ahead
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 12, 2009 6:15 PM PST up reply actions
RIPs gonna heat it up
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Soo.... Moore with 2 horrible plays and no sub
by randolphforpresident on Dec 12, 2009 6:17 PM PST reply actions
Will
they finally figure out Mags is only good in the middle of quarters and sucks in the beginning and ending.
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by 24k state fan since 87 on Dec 12, 2009 6:19 PM PST reply actions
AR will want a trade soon if this continues
Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "You're a rookie"
lol
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by Wasabi Steak on Dec 12, 2009 6:22 PM PST up reply actions
I like that defense where we let the Pistons throw the ball away
We should run that D all the time.
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Moore screen? Nah...
haha, it was on Morrow
LOL... there's a Warriors Game today?!?!
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Jinx
We’re doomed.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 6:26 PM PST up reply actions
http://rwbsports.com/ch2.html
But it lags like crazy
by SigEpWarrior on Dec 12, 2009 6:26 PM PST up reply actions
stop complaining atkins
morrow got a crappy call too
Morrow 3 fouls in like 1 minute
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AMMO
missing a open corner shot what is wrong with him?!
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by 24k state fan since 87 on Dec 12, 2009 6:27 PM PST reply actions
Ellis
That was tough.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 6:27 PM PST reply actions
i hope ammo doesnt get the barnes issue
loss in family than struggles
Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "You're a rookie"
Lol at 3 ex-warriors players on top players of the day
Arenas with a triple double
Jamison 30-10
Morrow
Needs to get something going at the bucket.
Either that or the beginning of the season was a mirage.
he tried to go to the basket
got an “offensive foul” call
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 12, 2009 6:30 PM PST up reply actions
I wouldn't go that far.
People have shooting funks every once in a while. He’ll get it back
by SigEpWarrior on Dec 12, 2009 6:30 PM PST up reply actions
Fourth Quarter
It will probably decide the outcome.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 6:31 PM PST up reply actions
Randolph's minutes
seem to have gone down in each successive game that Smart has coached. This is so depressing/
by randolphforpresident on Dec 12, 2009 6:30 PM PST reply actions
Dont worrry guys...
I havent turned on the TV!
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http://www.tonypsd.blogspot.com/
what's your record so far when you show up to the open thread?
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 12, 2009 6:32 PM PST up reply actions
4-2 LOL when I watch
Beyond Golden State of Design... and than some!
http://www.tonypsd.blogspot.com/
that's pretty good
i was hoping for some sort of 0-6 or something. I could have used that in the my post game links title if we lost tonight. :P
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 12, 2009 6:39 PM PST up reply actions
Missing in action
Works killin’ me!
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No
He was taken 12th, I believe.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 6:33 PM PST up reply actions
Detroit Basketball!
:’(
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by 24k state fan since 87 on Dec 12, 2009 6:33 PM PST reply actions
yeah i know
once that happened, i imagined the pistons winning the tip and launching a long three, and hitting
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 12, 2009 6:39 PM PST up reply actions
i used to be for maggette
now im for his waiving. he just really hurts the team no matter what. I mean whenever he gets good stats he still hurts the team.
im confused what happened to his shooting.
He was shooting 38% on 3’s as a clipper, and now he is airballing mid range jumpers.
Get rid of this guy.
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i'm not quite that far yet
but i’m in the middle though. I WANT him to do well, but his screw ups are pretty ugly
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 12, 2009 6:41 PM PST up reply actions
morrow might need some therapy
if he’s really bothered by that family death
He kind of looks like Curry
i’m not saying either one of them is cute tho
by Loveisforfree on Dec 12, 2009 6:43 PM PST up reply actions
wow
that sucked
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by 24k state fan since 87 on Dec 12, 2009 6:43 PM PST reply actions
Nice
It’s back to one just like that.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 6:44 PM PST reply actions
maggette does know how to flush it down, though
nice leak out on that fast break
ok
who thought mags was gonna miss that dunk? i kinda did haha
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by 24k state fan since 87 on Dec 12, 2009 6:44 PM PST reply actions
CJ Watson should totally be starting over him
Curry always passes up those corner threes.
by samuraaaaiiiiiii on Dec 12, 2009 6:45 PM PST up reply actions
odd, but he's better off the bench.
then again, i don’t think we have the Monta, CJ, AM, Vlad, and Moore combo yet
Eh
He’s not really playing point guard.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 6:46 PM PST up reply actions
It's lagging for me to.
I think some guys are watching it on their local TV stations.
by Richboievans on Dec 12, 2009 6:45 PM PST up reply actions
can i say
ive always hated watching this walk the ball up the court and chunk up contested shots east coast type of basketball.
i thought this era was over once d’antoni and nelson came back to the nba. i guess detroit will always play this way
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ok, just came back from the bathroom
to see a bunch of fat guys on my TV, wtf?
i
almost just threw up and will never look at tires teh same way
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by 24k state fan since 87 on Dec 12, 2009 6:47 PM PST reply actions
Villanueva
He is a scoring machine. He has only about two inches on Maggette, though.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 6:48 PM PST up reply actions
monta nice double team, steal
great bounce pass too
Maxiell
I think he squashed Curry.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 6:48 PM PST reply actions
even if you get morrow a shot
i don’t trust him shooting tonight
OMFG
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Mags
wow! that was embarassing
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by 24k state fan since 87 on Dec 12, 2009 6:50 PM PST reply actions
ok we need maggs out and too get AR n ammo more involved
Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "You're a rookie"
That was the icing
walking slowly back up the court, allowing an easy layup
by randolphforpresident on Dec 12, 2009 6:52 PM PST up reply actions
Totally
Other players haven’t missed layups tonight!
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 6:51 PM PST up reply actions
i can handle maggette's first missed layup
that was kinda hard going thru 2 guys. But on the second chance, UGH
You kinda see why Maggs is never on a winning team
by randolphforpresident on Dec 12, 2009 6:51 PM PST reply actions
Winning
Good luck winning when you play for the Clippers and Warriors.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 6:52 PM PST up reply actions
Maggette
He’s killing us with his 7-for-11 shooting.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 6:53 PM PST up reply actions
What's with him having hte worst +/- on the team?
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 12, 2009 6:54 PM PST up reply actions
Tonight
Curry has the worst.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 6:55 PM PST up reply actions
the sad thing is
statistically, maggette is “shooting” 60% right now
my point exactly
even when his stats are good, hes actually playing crap
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Skin Condition
He can’t grow them.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 6:53 PM PST up reply actions
and when I mean rage so hard
I mean I’d go out for blood
Yes
Because it’s Maggette, right? But if it’s someone else, it’s all good, right?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 6:53 PM PST up reply actions
Obviously
It’s because he’s Maggette.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 6:54 PM PST up reply actions
Maggs tries...really hard, haha.
I give him props just for the effort
He has not right hand at all
So all you have to do to defend him is take away his left hand.
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I'd rather have Charlie V than Corey, I think
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 12, 2009 6:56 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe
It’s pretty close, I think.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 6:57 PM PST up reply actions
I like his length, and he is more of a natural PF
but it is close. They are similar in quality
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 12, 2009 6:58 PM PST up reply actions
HaHA
Not even close, you gotta be a moron to think Corey is anywhere on the level or Charlie V
by Loveisforfree on Dec 12, 2009 6:58 PM PST up reply actions
No
Villanueva averages 0.3 points more and 0.1 rebounds more.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:00 PM PST up reply actions
I was just messing with you
I would trade Corey for charlie straight up tho
by Loveisforfree on Dec 12, 2009 7:04 PM PST up reply actions
Villanueva
We have nobody that can guard him.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 6:55 PM PST reply actions
imagine
what the score would be if corey was not a dumb butt
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by 24k state fan since 87 on Dec 12, 2009 7:00 PM PST reply actions
Game
it is over :/
another good game by Monta, another waste.
come on, maggette
STOP SHOOTING THAT THREE! We’re down by 7, take a GOOD shot
Stuckey
He’s legit.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:01 PM PST reply actions
Radmanovic
He’s just had a terrible, terrible night shooting the ball.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:02 PM PST reply actions
yes, it was the shot to take
just wish radman had a more reliable shot
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 12, 2009 7:03 PM PST up reply actions
he puts so much arc on it
I’m not surprised that it isn’t consistent.
by samuraaaaiiiiiii on Dec 12, 2009 7:04 PM PST up reply actions
that's it.
this team SUCKS. lottery here we come.
who?
you mean the pistons? but they were bad because of injuries. i heard they won 4 out of the 5 games…or something like that
Game Over
Vlad at center. Warriors give me no reason to watch their games. I might be done for the season. Judging by the 22% drop in Oracle revenue, I’m not alone.
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Told y'all this new faced Pistons team is better than people give them credit for..
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Pistons
They’re not that good, dude. They’re below average.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:05 PM PST up reply actions
11-12
I think they’re below average.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:06 PM PST up reply actions
Injury-riddled, but people are coming back, and they've won 5 of 6
They could make some noise
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by Wasabi Steak on Dec 12, 2009 7:08 PM PST up reply actions
They're a darkhorse squad in the lower seeds of the East.
Lotta weapons
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by Wasabi Steak on Dec 12, 2009 7:07 PM PST up reply actions
Playoffs
If they even make it, they’re getting waxed by Orlando, Boston or Cleveland. They aren’t a “darkhorse.”
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:09 PM PST up reply actions
They face Orlando its a problem for Orlando, as a Magic fan I dont wanna see them
Even with no Rasheed they have a history of bullying frontcourt players that stifle Howard. Swept us in the season series last year and handed Orlando their first loss this year
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by Wasabi Steak on Dec 12, 2009 7:11 PM PST up reply actions
Duh
That’s not saying a whole lot, though.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:13 PM PST up reply actions
Honestly
Maggette doesn’t deserve this kind of treatment from us.
He’s trying to find his place on this team and he tries every night.
I haven't been hating on him.
He does what he does. If everyone else were hitting their shots no one would be pointing at him for bringing the team down.
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 12, 2009 7:06 PM PST up reply actions
he's one of our highest paid, oldest, and minute grabbing players...
yet he is not role model type of player, does not pass consistently, takes terrible jumpers for no reason when all he can do is drive. he’s crap. can see why Dunleavy wanted him out of LAC.
does anyone remember Maggette's nickname?
"Bad Porn."
Why? There’s penetration and scoring, but are you really happy with what you’re seeing?
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Draft
I’d probably look at a small forward.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:06 PM PST up reply actions
what's the point?
SG-Bell/Morrow
SF-Azubuike/Maggette
we don’t need anybody unless we trade.
Bell
He’s gone.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:07 PM PST up reply actions
Montejunas
Look him up he’s a 7 footer from Europe tha can shoot the 3 and is a tough player, I saw him in the Nike hoop summit game USA VS the World. hes the top european prospect and i think he’s projected as the overall number 10 pick
by Loveisforfree on Dec 12, 2009 7:09 PM PST up reply actions
No
When has someone from overseas, other than Nowitzki, ever worked out? This guy is Andrea Bargnani at best or worse.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:10 PM PST up reply actions
Gallinari, Jerepko, Caspi, Luis Scola.
I’m telling you, you’ll be hearing about him when he gets here
by Loveisforfree on Dec 12, 2009 7:37 PM PST up reply actions
Wow
Those players are all worthy of a top pick, no?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:39 PM PST up reply actions
No
He isn’t a top 10 pick.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:42 PM PST up reply actions
Yes he is
Get lost you dont know anything about basketball
by Loveisforfree on Dec 12, 2009 7:43 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry
I like my big men to average more than 0.3 blocks if I take them inside the top 10. They should also be pretty dominant post scorers.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:46 PM PST up reply actions
Show how much you know
Donatas Motiejunas would be perfect for our system, he can spread the floor and would be able to play PF for us. so just save yourself embarrasment and stop acting like you know what youre talking about
by Loveisforfree on Dec 12, 2009 7:49 PM PST up reply actions
Subject
Well, thanks for changing it!
I’ll stick with Biedrins, Turiaf, Randolph and Wright inside and rather focus on a position of need like small forward. At guard, we can have Ellis, Curry, Watson and Morrow. At small forward, we just have Azubuike.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:52 PM PST up reply actions
Pau Gasol? Ginobili? Parker? Olajuwon? Mutombo? Ben Gordon? Yao? Biedrins?
by homer simpson on Dec 12, 2009 7:40 PM PST up reply actions
Rephrase
Let me make it more clear. When was the last time someone from overseas was worthy of a top 10 pick in the last six seasons?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:42 PM PST up reply actions
i technically don’t disagree with your overall point. he’s only listed at #10 on draftexpress anyway and probably won’t be picked until the teens.
as to the last 6 drafts Bogut, Calderon, Marc Gasol in hindsight are probably top 10 picks in their drafts. Horford & Deng if you count foreigners who played in the NCAA. i’m probably missing some.
by homer simpson on Dec 12, 2009 7:50 PM PST up reply actions
Overseas Players
I’m not saying they aren’t good players. I was just saying that players from overseas taken inside the top 10 don’t really work out.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:52 PM PST up reply actions
Lets just drop it
you’ve obviously never seen him play. i was just telling you to check him out.
by Loveisforfree on Dec 12, 2009 7:56 PM PST up reply actions
Motiejunas
If you like him, you like him. I’m not saying I don’t. I guess he’ll get playing time with Biedrins, Turiaf, Randolph and Wright on the team as well, right?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:59 PM PST up reply actions
i know, i agree with your overall point.
by homer simpson on Dec 12, 2009 8:01 PM PST up reply actions
Donatas Motiejunas
I’m serious about this dude we need to start a bandwagon to get him.
by Loveisforfree on Dec 12, 2009 7:53 PM PST up reply actions
I hope we loose every single game this season
by insanenthemembrane on Dec 12, 2009 7:06 PM PST reply actions
Reason
It’s probably John Wall.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:07 PM PST up reply actions
yes! something drastic has to happen…clean house…but than again how long have we been hoping for this to happen?
by insanenthemembrane on Dec 12, 2009 7:07 PM PST up reply actions
yes! something drastic has to happen…clean house…but than again how long have we been hoping for this to happen?
by insanenthemembrane on Dec 12, 2009 7:07 PM PST reply actions
No matter what pick we get..
The players not gonna be a difference maker with Nellie as coach.. We should trade our pick
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this is last season all over again....
not competitive, healthy or good enough. little chemistry. poor D. no improvement. little direction going forward.
game over
all you can do now is practice your end of game plays
it's odd that CJ is at 50% in FG, but he shoots so little
is he trying to up his unrestricted FA next year?
No we can't come back.
One of the worst SFs in the NBA is playing center. This team is run by actual crazy people. The game is over, so is the season. Glad I didn’t get season tickets.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:10 PM PST up reply actions
When he makes a move to the basket
He stops and looks to pass even when he can make it through the defense.
He needs to toughen up and take it in
by Richboievans on Dec 12, 2009 7:12 PM PST up reply actions
It's just you
Perhaps you’re getting lost in his hazel eyes.
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 12, 2009 7:12 PM PST up reply actions
ya i really remember him being such a contributor on that squad. lol.
must be why they traded him for cap space and scraps.
They traded him the year after. How quickly we forget. He started 41 regular season games that year. If he was a career loser he would have taken them down with him, true?
Basketball is a team game. If your team sucks, you can only do so much. People love to think that if you were good your team would win, but look at Kevin Garnett. On Minnesota (except the year he had help with Cassell and…Sprewell? I forget), he played on losing teams. A career loser. He gets traded to Boston, has some good players with him, and now he wins a championship and is a playoff lock.
actually KG has only played on 4 losing teams in his career (his 1st 2 seasons & his last 2 with Minny) and his 2nd yr team was 40-42. So that’s 11 winning seasons.
by homer simpson on Dec 12, 2009 7:37 PM PST up reply actions
Damn, really? I just remember the years that led to him getting traded. Alright bad example. But the point remains. Danny Granger, is he considered a career loser? Cause I don’t think he’s taken his team anywhere. Or do we attribute it to his team’s being bad?
I want to know the criteria for what makes some players career losers, while other players are in unlucky situations.
Okay
Take away eight points and put them in his assists category. Yeah, that was the difference in the game. Just keep blaming him, though.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:12 PM PST up reply actions
but his TO are from traveling!
he certainly needs to make adjustment. blame it on the youtube video, where he traveled 6 (?) times
Turnovers
They’re equally as bad whether or not they come from traveling, bad passes or offensive fouls.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:15 PM PST up reply actions
not really.
to be honest, if him pass the ball and have a TO, at least he’s looking to pass. traveling and offensive fouls are selfish plays. it’s on the player.
Wow
Turnovers and offensive fouls are “selfish” turnovers? Making mistakes are signs of selfishness? Okay, I get it now.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:20 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks
I now know that mistakes stem from selfishness. This blog has made me smarter.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:23 PM PST up reply actions
no buddy. if someone is trying to sneak a tough high risk/high reward pass into someone and gets a turnover, that is a much “better” turnover than getting called for traveling.
by randolphforpresident on Dec 12, 2009 7:22 PM PST up reply actions
Travelling is pretty not okay
In general, you shouldn’t get one or more per game.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 12, 2009 7:23 PM PST up reply actions
No
There’s no such thing as a “better” turnover, really. A “high-risk, high-reward” pass can be argued as a bad pass because if it’s tough, don’t take the risk.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:24 PM PST up reply actions
Okay
Take away eight points and put them in his assists category. Yeah, that was the difference in the game. Just keep blaming him, though.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:12 PM PST up reply actions
he was a -11. worst plus/minus on the floor.
which translates to he’s a ballhog that does not help the team despite his stats.
Right
I, too, am in favor of blaming individuals. It’s a team game. You win as one and you lose as one.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:16 PM PST up reply actions
you can find it in most boxscores for each game.
nba.com (http://www.nba.com/statistics/plusminus/plusminus.jsp) has season comparisons as does 82games.com
by homer simpson on Dec 12, 2009 7:30 PM PST up reply actions
technically Morrow’s -8 in 18 minutes is worse than Corey’s -13 in 30.
by homer simpson on Dec 12, 2009 7:29 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not putting any blame on him.
But he has his contract and he could care less whether we lose or not.
Caring
Maggette doesn’t care? He doesn’t show up and play hard?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:15 PM PST up reply actions
Wow
He tries to get his own numbers? You’re basing that off of his high number of points and low number of assists? The guy pretty much plays power forward and center. I didn’t know he was supposed to get five assists a night.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:17 PM PST up reply actions
I've seen him play center
only a couple times this year.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 12, 2009 7:18 PM PST up reply actions
Positions
Maggette plays out of position more so than he does in position.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:19 PM PST up reply actions
So?
He plays SF more than he does center, but plays PF more than both of those.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 12, 2009 7:20 PM PST up reply actions
Power Forward
That’s where he plays most of the time. What’s your point? My point was that these people want Maggette to dish out assists like Nash and think his not doing so is the reason why we lose.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:22 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, my point was that he doesn't play much center.
I was correcting you in your other post.
I don’t know why you’re going off about assists on me, I was just saying he doesn’t actually play much center.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 12, 2009 7:27 PM PST up reply actions
Assists
God, I’m not going off on assists with you. I mentioned it twice. The first time, it was a reply to someone else. The second time, it was me explaining my point to you.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:28 PM PST up reply actions
K, I took no issue with the assists thing
I didn’t say anything about his assists. If you didn’t have an agenda to your posting, you could realize what I said.
I only said that he doesn’t play much center.
14% at SF, 30% at PF, 4% at C. That 4% at C is so small that it’s barely larger than a sample error.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 12, 2009 7:33 PM PST up reply actions
Positions
Yeah, I said Maggette played more power forward and center than small forward. That is true based on those statistics. It looks like 34 percent to 14 percent.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:34 PM PST up reply actions
But that's dishonest
Sure, it’s true, but hardly any of his minutes are at center. It’s a rhetoric tactic, not a debate tactic.
You know that he’s actually better at PF and C than he is at SF?
Heck, he’s +5 points at C, while he’s -30 at PF and -52 at SF.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 12, 2009 7:36 PM PST up reply actions
Garbage
Maggette is better at power forward and center than at small forward? Wow, I’ve heard it all.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:38 PM PST up reply actions
I'm just posting numbers from 82games
Of course, the center numbers aren’t true (no big statistical pool), and the PF numbers have him being worse defensively than he is at SF, but better offensively. See- he isn’t very good at defense. It’s counterintuitive, I know.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 12, 2009 7:40 PM PST up reply actions
Defense
He isn’t very good? Well, he fits right in.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:43 PM PST up reply actions
We don't have to look at his numbers.
The guy puts a stop to our offensive flow when he is in the game. It’s either in the post or on the wing. Pump fake, 20 foot jumper which rarely goes in, or travel. If he decides to drive, he puts his head down and RARELY finishes the 3 point play or even the layup because he relies so much on the refs to bail him out.
It’s not as if he makes the pass that leads to another that gets the assist. He just doesn’t pass period.
Maggette
Yeah, it’s all his fault. The ball never goes in! Blah, blah, blah! He doesn’t do this or that! Let’s continue to cry over how he is the reason why we have a bad team.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:27 PM PST up reply actions
No
I don’t want to take the time to make one. It’ll be pointless. Morons like you will still criticize him for everything.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:39 PM PST up reply actions
Yup
Guys, let’s Corey Maggette is the best player on teh team. He does no wrong.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 12, 2009 7:43 PM PST up reply actions
Yes
Oh, you’re talking now! I hope he wins the MVP this year.
Yeah, because I said he was the best player on the team, right? That would actually even out the extremes. Actually, no, it’s still be bottom-heavy.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:45 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry
You act like a moron. I said you criticize him for everything and now I act like a kid born in 1991?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:44 PM PST up reply actions
Nice
You have racial insults, too? Age and race, huh? Let’s go after religion next.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:45 PM PST up reply actions
Are you a female
Is it that time of the month? why have you been so jumpy lately?
by Loveisforfree on Dec 12, 2009 7:47 PM PST up reply actions
No
It’s called a debate, not being jumpy.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:47 PM PST up reply actions
it's not a debate when people are putting down other's opinions.
if people really want others to listen to them, they really need to stop insulting other people’s opinions.
but i’m just saying.
Opinions
I insulted someones opinion? You’re just going to show up and make that accusation? Get lost.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:50 PM PST up reply actions
well i wasn't necessarily talking about you ONLY but...
if you wanna take EVERYONE’S opinions personal, then let me continue on about the rage you’ve been on for the whole game.
calling people morons because their opinions don’t agree with you?
hilarious. completely ignoring the fact that you’ve been calling people morons throughout the whole thread.
Morons
People can’t be called morons? If someone says Matt Barnes is better than LeBron James, that person isn’t a moron?
I’m not taking anyone’s opinions personally.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:55 PM PST up reply actions
ummm...
well when i made the initial post, i was really referring to not just you, but everyone in this thread who have been arguing for the lamest reason, but you decided to respond in a sense that i was ONLY referring to you. so, yes, you are taking people’s opinions personally.
Okay
so, yes, you are taking people’s opinions personally.
How? I responded to you, so that’s why?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 8:01 PM PST up reply actions
i guess you missed the
other 50 or so posts that you made bashing other people’s opinions because they didn’t agree with you.
it’s not the fact that you responded to me. it’s the fact that you responded in such a defensive manner that shows me how personal you’re taking my comments.
sure you may know more about basketball than the average person, but to act like a knowitall, where everyone who disagrees with you is a moron is just stubborn and sad really.
Sorry
Bashing other people’s opinions doesn’t mean I take them personally. I’m the one who was attacked personally, but you probably missed it and that doesn’t surprise me.
If I come across as a know-it-all, it’s because I feel strongly in my opinion. It’s not sad. It’s confidence. This doesn’t even concern you, so yeah. I don’t know why you got yourself involved.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 8:17 PM PST up reply actions
Funny
You know that I’m a male, but you think it’s cute to call me a female and make racially-motivated insults. If that’s the life you want to lead, alright.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 8:00 PM PST up reply actions
Ha
I just realized you defended someone for using a racial insult. That’s the way to be, man.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:49 PM PST up reply actions
aside from the 2nd (where he had what? and 3rd Q, and some of the 4th
Corey at least did try to drive to the basket. Or made jumpers within 15’
However, i do agree. because he is so predictable when he’s on the floor, that’s why our team suffer, even if he can score and is attempting to get those boards. his game hasn’t changed much from last year.
I probably can write a scatter report for Corey.
Uh
Not sure where you’re getting this from. He is already on his last big contract, probably last contract altogether.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 12, 2009 7:18 PM PST up reply actions
well that pretty much sums up my point right there.
team is not a priority to this bum.
That’s just pure speculation. You guys need to stop saying this like it is fact, I think you are starting to believe it.
na. its really not hard to figure out. when people have been saying the same thing for years.
even with the Clipps he was the same. he plays for stats and then cashes in and doesnt have motivation to score or improve.
I don’t care what people say. It doesn’t make it true. If you want to tell me he is a bad jumpshooter, and you have stats to back it up, I’ll believe you. If you want to tell me he doesn’t play hard, well you can’t back that up. I think he plays extremely hard, so why is my point of view less valid than yours?
i disagree
he looked pretty frustrated when he missed those 2 layups. I think he does care, and i think he wants to play well, but his decision making and shot selection is very infuriating.
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 12, 2009 7:18 PM PST up reply actions
lets just say he's not a guy that is going to make this team a good one.
nothing about the way he plays has shown that team ball and being unselfish is in his mind.
looking at the boxscore
Mikki put up a goose egg in rebounds again
by samuraaaaiiiiiii on Dec 12, 2009 7:12 PM PST reply actions
Coach
In case you haven’t noticed, ours is sick.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:14 PM PST up reply actions
Ummm I know that
Sometimes I wish he was here :(
by Richboievans on Dec 12, 2009 7:15 PM PST up reply actions
interesting comment from bob
the lack of turiaf and biedrins has forced the guards to learn better defense
it's funny that they say the wings are better at battling people, BUT they can't out rebound the oppositng team
which is one thing that has hurt us
I fell asleep...
first game I missed due to falling asleep during the end of the 2nd quarter.
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Dec 12, 2009 7:15 PM PST reply actions
I'm glad I have Monta Bryant and Corey Nash on my fantasy team
But I’m not glad I have Corey Maggette on my team.
Can't wait for the postgame
Let’s hear more justifications for totally insane coaching decisions! I feel like the Warriors could go out blindfolded and some fans/broadcasters would talk of how they play better sans vision.
ES
this guy didn't spell "corey" correctly
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 12, 2009 7:19 PM PST up reply actions
Credibility
It’s in question.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:21 PM PST up reply actions
He's been shooting pretty poorly
He had a 4th, but it was taken away as an offensive foul.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 12, 2009 7:21 PM PST up reply actions
Azubuike...
God I miss him…
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Keith Smart is a F***** Disgrace
He shouldn’t be allowed an NBA position in any capacity except for maybe being head of the janitors, but then again knowing Smart’s ability to lead they’d probably miss a lot of things like cleaning the toilets, etc…..
You can't fairly judge someone as an interim headcoach.
That being said, I’ve never been a huge fan of his and I don’t think he’d be a good coach.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 12, 2009 7:26 PM PST up reply actions
you don't think it's the players?
i mean, we’re using the end of the bench (for the bigs) and except them to produce starter minutes. as for guards, aside from Corey, everyone is under 30. and the other (except Vladimir) are under 25. that’s a young young team no?
There's no way in the world
That Anthony Randolph should have gotten 14 minutes. There’s no way that Mikki Moore should have been starting, with Chris Hunter available.
I realize this is a young team but this is twice in a row that the substitution methods of Smart have cost the Warriors victories. How hard would it have been to keep Ellis, Watson, Maggette, Randolph, and Hunter on the floor?
They were the ones that at got the lead back up to six before half time!
I wasn’t
If Bochy coached the Warriors Bengie Molina would start every game at PG.
by cybermaldonado on Dec 12, 2009 7:47 PM PST up reply actions
George
He’s a shooting guard. I want someone that can play small forward. George, who weighs 190 pounds, can’t be a small forward.
I’d rather have someone like Al-Farouq Aminu.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:33 PM PST up reply actions
Fresno State
That’s the reason why, right?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:31 PM PST up reply actions
Small Forward
George can’t play there.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:36 PM PST up reply actions
WAC
He plays in a conference that isn’t a major one, so I am not surprised he can play small forward at that level.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 12, 2009 7:41 PM PST up reply actions
He's only 190 lbs
It’d be like if Kevin Martin tried to play SF.
Also- he’s expected to be drafted around #20.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 12, 2009 7:42 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, huh.
You never know with these things. Michael Beasley was listed 6’10" in college, but we know how untrue that is.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 12, 2009 7:45 PM PST up reply actions
So … are you suggesting that this 210 lb swingman currently putting up solid-but-unspectacular numbers for a crappy college team in a third-rate conference is the answer to the Warriors’ problems?
Or are you just passing time?
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Dec 12, 2009 7:46 PM PST up reply actions
A guy who’ll be lucky to have a career as an NBA benchwarmer?
Then again, we are talking about the Warriors…
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Dec 12, 2009 7:54 PM PST up reply actions
… John and Ringo…
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Dec 12, 2009 7:32 PM PST up reply actions
Just landed
in Oakland airport baby!…didnt get to watch the game but i see we sucked!
well…at least am not in Santa Barbara anymore….
Hi everyone…
Can we trade maggette for a keg or Hefeweizen? or is that asking for too much?
by insanenthemembrane on Dec 12, 2009 7:58 PM PST reply actions
Can we trade maggette for a keg OF Hefeweizen? or is that asking for too much?
by insanenthemembrane on Dec 12, 2009 7:58 PM PST up reply actions
too high of quality
we would have too settle for busch
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