I for one think that it was worse last year. At least we are playing hard (other than last night). I don’t understand Randolph not playing more nor do I get why Monta is trotted out for 45 minutes a night. The lineup choices when we actually have a lead don’t make much sense in particular. Still, I see a lot more hope than I did last year when it looked like we were heading for 4 years of Jack/Maggs and two more seasons of Crawfish. At least we have some cap flexibility now.

On the 1 hand if we can get a viable Big under contract (I’m not even talking Bosh or Amare, but say Brook Lopez or Al Hortford, Marc Gasol? etc, young guys who have shown a lot more, and have all star level talent) you have to do it ASAP.

On the other-hand I question what we can REALLY get for him. Sure he makes a lot of highlight real plays and has unreal athleticism for a guy of his size. If you are a GM with a quality Big under contract, would you trade him for Randolph? I am guessing no, unless your hand is forced or they r older and you want to rebuild (which doesn’t benefit GSW).

I still can’t get why we don’t see him 30 minutes a game @Center at least. I realize he makes a lot of mistakes but it’s not like mikki moore is better. I don’t care if Randolph starts or not, but lack of PT when we have 8 healthy players, 2 of whom are Mikki Moore and Chris Hunter is really discouraging and if anything makes me wonder what commitment this staff has to the long term health of warriors.

I don’t understand. This team is always in “rebuild” mode. Right when we get a few decent players and we start to think, “hey, maybe this team has a chance”, something happens, and we get rid of the role players, or someone demands a trade. Lately, it’s been injuries… and that’s going to happen when you’re playing a Monta Ellis 45 minutes a game. That’s going to happen when you’re big guys are 40 pounds less than the guys they are defending every night.

As far as Randolph, I think a lot of it has to do with the speed of the game. I think it’s too fast for him right now, especially playing on a fast paced run and gun offense. Combine that with the fact that he has gained a ton of weight/muscle, he is probably trying to learn how to play with all that extra muscle. It weighs you down and tires you out a lot faster, and it limits mobility… so you have to make adjustments and learn how to play with it, and let your body naturally get accustomed to playing like that. In the summer league, he didn’t have to play against veterans every night, who know how to pick on young players and get them to commit a foul. In the summer league, Randolph was the big guy, so he was able to push others around a little bit.

That and the fact that Nelson always needs a guy to ride on. It’s usually the rookie, but he likes Curry, so he has to revert to last years rookie, especially when he makes so many mental errors.

The last thing I can think of is how much gas does he have left in the tank? Dude worked out three times a day. I think I’m good when I can muster up the time and effort to workout 3 times a week. He could just be tired and need some time off.

They have to keep some players, because no one will want to play here if we are constantly trading guys away. Some players like stability… and this team has never really had that. Mullin tried, but he failed more often than not by giving the wrong players big contracts.

I can guarantee he will be star somewhere else. It’s obvious he will be a star in a couple years whether its here or somewhere else like the other stars we traded away. Its ridiculous that Mikki Moore and Vlad get 30+ min. a night and Randolph is lucky to get 25. Come on, are either of those guys really a part of our future? What are we trying to prove when they start and both give minimal contributions? Look, this is obviously another lost season, it is time to play Morrow, Curry, and Randolph 35-40 a night and let them do their thing, make their mistakes, get their highlights, let them learn the game firsthand and finish with a good shot in the lottery, I am sick of sucking all year and ending up with the 7,9, or 11th pick in the draft. I want a shot at a top 3 pick. Sure Randolph makes those bonehead plays sometimes but he is still 20 years old! Still the youngest on our team and one of the youngest in the league. We hyped him up too much this season saying he was gonna be an all star already and lead us to the promise lands. Now it is time to give him the ball and tell him to go play. I’m sure as heck not ready to give up on Randolph.

Oy.

Like the rest of our team, Randolph is by no means untouchable, but also nowhere near his maximum possible trade value right now. If you want to trade him, at least start him and get his counting stats and notoriety up. I doubt he goes anywhere, but if the team really is dangling him in trades right now, they’re even dumber than I thought.

Does anyone actually think a trade is going to turn this franchise around? No. We need to give our young players big minutes this year and hope for a top 3 draft pick.

Of course Randolph is touchable. No one on this team warrants “untouchable” status. I don’t see a reason to actively shop him, but if someone wants him enough to give us an offer that we think brings more value than we trade away, of course we have to accept.

It may be that Randolph continues to grow and becomes an all-star. That’ll take a LOT of work on Randolph’s part, though. We have an incomplete picture of what goes on with the team. Reporters are only allowed in at the end of practices. Is he putting in all the extra time he needs to develop his game? If not, is more playing time going to solve everything?

When I hear reports of players coming in early or staying late, it is always Morrow, Curry and Watson. How much of player development happens on the court, and how much in practice? There is a lot of unknowns about Randolph, and it is a bit disturbing that work ethic seems to be one of them.

It may be the coaches don’t want to give him all the extra time available on the court right now because he hasn’t “earned” it. Even though I agree he is clearly the best option, maybe they are hesitant to reward a young player who isn’t putting in all the extra work they think a young player should.

would you pull the trigger on beans/curry/pieces for amare now? trading potential for superstars is a good deal in every case. banking on potential like we have done for the past decade is the sign of a team that is obviously looking for a way to keep fans in their seats without spending big money on bonafide superstars. this team cares about us as much as george dubbya cares about black people.

Personally I just think its another feeble attempt by mgmt to get people talking but ultimately do nothing in terms of a trade to get a legit superstar to come play for thie organization. The only way that I would trade AR would be to get someone like CP3 or a Bosh w/ an extension but that isn’t going to happen. The FO would rather have the fanbase on pins and needles waiting for something to happen as opposed to going out and making something happen. That way people still goto games and spend money with minimal effort and virtually no pressure from the fan base to make the front office do anything.

All the talk about the Warriors being in discussions is just that talk. What happened to the big moves that were supposed to be made in the off-season and the “beef” that we were going to be acquiring. Instead we get a bunch of hurt players and expiring contracts that most likely won’t be used. Then once we land with the 7th pick again in the draft next year (B/c our organizations karma doesn’t have the luck to get the #1 pick to draft a John Wall or even if we did the FO would find a way to screw it up) we will all start hearing the talks about supposed Moves that are going to be made and will end up giving Michael redd 5 yrs/ 60 mill or something dumb like that and then we are back at square one with no legit superstar and a roster full of guards.

BUY TIX everyone next year SKY’s the limit!!!! Especially once we get Biedrins and Turiaff back b/c not having them is the only reason we are not contending in the west!

They would say that Pablo Sandoval doesn’t take enough pitches so instead we are going to make Rich Aurila our starting 3rd baseman.
I don’t know how you can say Randolph has regressed; has even gotten a chance? He played a great game against Orlando only to find himself on the end of the bench the next night. He played great against New Jersey (turned the game around) only to be benched the rest of the road trip. He was the youngest player in the league last year. Why don’t you give him some consistent minutes to see what you got before trading him? Thompson is 3 years older and gets consistent minutes.
Bosh/Garnett played 37 minutes a night their 2nd years

The minute Raja Bell is available to be traded how about a Raja Bell for Andre Miller swap? Blazers get Bell for playoffs plus expiring contract. The Warriors get Miller to play in the backcourt with Monta. Millers size would make it a backcourt similar to with Baron since Miller has size and could defend the off guard.

my 26 years of Warrior fandom is officially done, stick a spork in it. I will become a fan of whichever team is smart enough to call the warriors and grab randolph. I go with Anthony. (I hope it’s not the Lakers)

If he stays POTENTIALLY great, and they don’t let him play much, then he may be a more valuable asset to trade. If he does start over Moore, against first string centers and struggles a lot – harder to trade him.
I’d trade him in a heartbeat for Al Horford or JThompson. We need solid role players who can defend, rebound, and play tough in the post. When Beans and (eventually) Wright return we will have our quota of lean pogo sticks.
Who cares if he becomes a star elsewhere? With our coaches and front office its probably better for his growth to leave. If we get a solid young PF in return who actually plays like a PF it will be best for the makeup of the team.

We are the team that let bulls say they won 2 out of their last 10 instead of 1 out of their last 9. We are the team that ended the 76ers 12-game losing streak. Even if we somehow bring our healthy bodies back, do a complete 180 and start winning games, we aren’t going to make the playoffs with the way this team is being coached. We can look at the bright side of the fact that buike and wright are out and use these extra minutes to gorge our young “potentials” with pt. they need game-time experience, and playing 15-20 minutes a game is not going to give it to them.

AR, morrow, and steph should be leading our offense. Who cares if we lose like that – we’re losing with monta playing 48 and scoring 25 a game anyway. We should we using this season as 82 live practices for the young guys so that we can finally see their “potential” that we keep talking about. nellie shouldn’t be worried about winning because too bad for us it’s just not in the cards this year – he should be maximizing the development of all this “talent” we’ve invested in. NO to trading AR. potential or not, if we let him go I swear he’s going to end up like every other ex-warrior “that got away”.

People think we can just become instantly great if we trade away 5 young guys for some superstar. News flash, Amare has Steve Nash on his team and is having his worst season in years. Chris Bosh arguably has a better supporting cast on the Raptors than we have, and his team has sucked 2 years in a row now. What do you think we will get from 4 months of these guys? Nothing. It’s not worth it.

Don Nelson says: “Oh crap, we’re not even on pace for me to get the All-Time wins record this season! We better put all our future talent on the block so we can get some veterans, so I can win now and so I can get my retired ass back to Maui ASAP!”

I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Anthony Randolph really was traded. I have no faith in this organization.

if we’re gonna wear anyone out, it shouldn’t be monta – it should be AR trying to smooth out his post game/rebound/defense, it should be Arrow finding a consistent shooting stroke. We’ve all heard nellie say that he’s “one of the best shooters i’ve ever coached” – then LET HIM SHOOT. curry has to troubleshoot his passing game and shooting as well. mikki is old, maggs is old, DG is old – these guys have no untapped potential. giving them more PT than the young guns is completely mind-blowing ESPECIALLY when the old guys who are getting PT don’t seem to play any more D than the rooks and sophs

He can’t stay on the court very long cuz he’s always jumping into fouls trying to contest jump shots. Stay on the floor, Randolph!

This team will be a bottom feeder for the foreseeable future! AND don’t blame the players…

The problems are obvious, and they ain’t goin no where!

I mentioned this in the fanshot but I’ll put it here. Tthis summer’s market is loaded with star players, the economy is bad, and the salary cap is going to get lowered.

We should pull this trade off and get Bosh to sign a 2-3 year extention for ~18-20 mil a year.

Sure we wont have any ‘true’ centers on the team, but I think given our system, BW, AR, and especially Bosh are definitely serviceable at the center spot. There are 98 minutes a game split between the PF and C spots. If we keep to a rotation of AR, BW, and Bosh that means they would each get 32 mins a game. If one or more get into foul trouble, or injured, we’d still have Vlad and we could easily resign Mikki.

Its true that something needs to be done, right now the only players we have that would start on a top10 NBA squad would be Monta, Buike, and Biedrins. We need to up our talent, making this switch for Bosh really improves our team.

Monta
Morrow/Curry
Azubuike
Ar/BW
Bosh

with Maggette as a 6th man is legit. Buike and Maggette would probably get the majoity of time at the wing positions, but Curry and Morrow will still probably get around 20 minutes a night, and if one of them gets their shot going they’d probably see more time.

Is Biedrins, Ronny, and our lottery pick enough to get Bosh outta Toronto? I know they love those foreign players!

AR says he is open to being traded. Can’t say I blame him. Sheeesh. Just when I thought thinks couldn’t get worse. Now, even if we do keep him you wonder how he’ll react to the effort to ship him out. He seems more mature than last year but he’s still awful young.
Sorry no link to espn post – not sure how to do that