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Decision time: upgrade our talent or wait for ours to develop?


I've come to the sad realization that we do not posses the talent to be a successful NBA team (I mean in terms of wins not dollars, Cohan!). Not just now, when everyone is injured, but even 100% healthy we'd only be able to manage to get swept in the first round by the Lakers. So this post is about a decision that our front office is in the process of making. Upgrade our talent or wait for ours to develop.

Looking ahead to next year, barring any trades or free agent aquisitions, our team is fairly solid. I'd say Andris, Buike, and Monta are the only players we have that would start on a top 10 NBA squad. That is a problem, a big problem. We do have an excellent 6th man in Maggette, Turiaf is also a great player to have coming off the bench, so are Randolph, Wright, Morrow, and Curry. The problem is that 2 of them have to start. I believe if Wright can stay healthy, he will be better than Randolph next year. He is in a better place mentally, and he also understands the limitations of his game better than AR. Brandan could be a wild card for us, he has an efficient offensive game, and he plays solid defense. Even assuming that Brandan lives up to these expectations, and no one misses significant time, we'd still only manage to get about 45 wins tops. That's probably an 8th seed, maybe the 7 spot. Which means we would be playing the Lakers, Nuggets, or Rockets with Yao, any of those teams would sweep us.

However, we do have a collection of really young players witha lot of potential. We can hold on to them and see what happens with that potential, or we can use that potential to try and aquire one big piece. Many trades have been suggested, Boozer, West, Bosh, and Amar'e have all been mentioned. Bosh is the only one of them I could see as a great fit for this team. There is also the free agent market next summer that has a lot of really good players available. The one player that would best help us, and that we also could realistically sign, is Joe Johnson.

Most people around this site and those in the know with the Warriors seem to think that our biggest upgrade needs to come in the frontcourt, I disagree. As established, Buike, Monta, and Andris are starters on a top level NBA team. Ronny and Corey are great 6th/7thmen on a top level team. So that leaves us next season with Curry, Morrow, AR, Vlad, and BWright. Out of those 5, BWright is the best at what he does, and he is our best low post scorer, which is something we need. Monta, Steph, Buike, A-Mo, and Corey are our only guards, and Nellie would never use Corey as anything but a forward. Our frontcourt has AB, BW, AR, Ronny, and Vlad, we could also easily retain Mikki. When you consider that Buike's contract is up after next season, and we need another all-star player who can take over a game to help Monta, Joe Johnson seems to bee the perfect fit. Nellie would continually start Monta, Joe, and Andris, our collection of other players would allow him to play mismatches as he sees fit. This also gives Morrow and Steph time to develop, since they don't seem capable everyday starters yet, and they're probably a year or 2 away as it stands now. Plus Johnson is a solid ball handler, he passes well, excells in the up tempo style, and he plays good defense.

So that's my solution, as painful as this year will be, that seems to be the most logical solution going forward. Just the same the ticket sales are down. Us fans are sick of losing, and we're only more likely to avoid the oracle as this gets worse. Plus there is a feeling that we're waisting Monta. The pressure is there this season for them to fill seats, but the injuries have also ruined this season. What would you do?

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Pretending that this FanPost is going to be read by the Warriors front office, what is your message to Larry Riley regarding the personnel of this team?
Keep this team together andtry to get a free agent this summer (Joe Johnson or other, please specify below
53 votes
MONTA NEEDS HELP!!!!!!! Try and get another superstar here ASAP!!!!
62 votes
This team is screwed, are the Kings still coming to San Jose?
23 votes

138 votes | Poll has closed

This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!

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The thing is management is 100% NOT committed to rebuilding

Otherwise they wouldn’t have traded a young player like Belinelli. They wouldn’t be shopping Randolph for ‘proven stars’. and they certainly would be playing the young guys MORE than currently, instead they play mikki moore and vladrad as much as possible

by tafkasam on Dec 17, 2009 4:33 PM PST reply actions  

Disagree

The FO wants to win, they are just completely incompetent at doing it.

by Badly Browned on Dec 18, 2009 8:59 AM PST up reply actions  

They want to win, but their #1 priority is money. Cohan/Rowell are always more concerned with the money they are making right now than trying to rebuild via young players. That means deals to save money (Crawford & Belinelli – not that he’s all that great, but he’s better than George) and deals for stop gap players like Mookie, Caffey, Cliff, Speedy, Dale & Corey Maggette in order to eek out enough wins to keep the suckers coming.

by homer simpson on Dec 18, 2009 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m all for developing the youth, but Don Nelson is not the person fit for this task and simply trodding all the young’ns out there for 40 minutes a game isnt going to help their progress as much as everyone believes it will.

WARRIORS BASKETBALL!!! Patiently waiting for a title...I may be waiting for a long time...

by JustSomeName on Dec 17, 2009 5:00 PM PST reply actions  

There is too big of a drop off in talent from Monta and the rest of the team. As much as I am a homer and love to see a bunch of these kids turn into all stars one day, we need to give somebody up to get Monta some help. Of the three “budding stars” in Curry, Morrow, and Randolph, I wouldn’t mind trading Morrow away when his stock his high along with others to entice somebody to send us over somebody that can actually help Monta out in terms of scoring and defending. Monta can’t score 40+ every night and expect us to play .500 ball.

WARRIORS BASKETBALL!!! Patiently waiting for a title...I may be waiting for a long time...

by JustSomeName on Dec 17, 2009 5:04 PM PST reply actions  

exactly

Monte needs help!!!! I hope dubz get rid of randolph and some others for a great powerfoward. Randolph will be great, but its just that us dubz fans want to win NOW and not later. Im sick of rebuilding and i miss our 2007 roster: BD, captJack, harrington, jrich, barnes, pietrus, etc..

DUBfan4life!!!!

by BayAreaKidd650 on Dec 17, 2009 7:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Bosh is perfect

But I have no idea what do have to do to bring him over here

by A2mm2o on Dec 17, 2009 7:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Unfortunately, it’s probably a deal that starts off with Monta.

by homer simpson on Dec 18, 2009 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Is it just a coincidence that the entire team is shooting poorly since Monta and Maggette started dominating the ball? I think not. We’ve turned into Allen Iverson’s 76ers of the late 90’s.

"We Deserve"

by YaHeard on Dec 17, 2009 8:12 PM PST up reply actions  

At least those Sixer teams made the playoffs.

Difference is they had good defenders in Mutumbo, Ratliff, and McKie and a Pg in Snow so Iverson only had to worry about scoring.

"Monta is the MAN." -Bob Fitzgerald

by WarriorForLife on Dec 17, 2009 9:41 PM PST up reply actions  

+1

If Curry stops fouling and hits open shot he can be the point, AR can be a good defender and Ronny can at times. If Wright bulked up maybe he’d be a good defender.

Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "You're a rookie"

by dubzfan on Dec 17, 2009 11:09 PM PST up reply actions  

shots*

Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "You're a rookie"

by dubzfan on Dec 17, 2009 11:09 PM PST up reply actions  

The league was also much worse back then as well. Expansion and the aging/retiring of the old guard of superstars (Malone, Stockton, Jordan, Pippen, Ewing, Barkley, Hakeem, Robinson, etc.,.) had not yet been filled by the 03-05 draft with Lebron, Melo, Wade, Bosh, Dwight, CP3, DWill and the influx of overseas talent was just beginning to compensate for expansion after Dirk came aboard in 99-00.

by homer simpson on Dec 18, 2009 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

are you serious? Morrow isn’t going to get you anybody good and his salary is $700K.

Even the recent talks have Randolph as a sweetener to a deal (supposedly b/c GMs aren’t impressed and he’s only 2 yrs away from pay day. Curry is in the same boat. His present value and his contract is too small to bring in a frontline player.

People talk about Amare for Curry, but they forget that Andris was the main piece in the Amare deal b/c of his production & reasonable contract and that Kelenna, BW & Marco were also desirable contract filler b/c they are young and have good contracts.

by homer simpson on Dec 18, 2009 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

We do not have cap space to sign a free agent this coming offseason. I cannot emphasize this enough, because people keep bringing it up. No cap space. No free agent. Also, Joe Johnson isn’t that good. (More like he’s good, but likely to be overpaid, he’ll get worse over the course of the contract, and he’s not the type of player that can take us to the next level.)

by Missing Barry on Dec 18, 2009 1:13 AM PST reply actions  

Also, Joe Johnson isn’t that good. (More like he’s good, but likely to be overpaid, he’ll get worse over the course of the contract, and he’s not the type of player that can take us to the next level.)

I disagree. He is certainly good enough to take the team from the bottom 3 in the West (13-15), to the next level of 10-12.

by homer simpson on Dec 18, 2009 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

I go with C. Bosh..but Warriors have no cap space.

I would love to have Bosh in the Bay but i dont think it will happen.

by Khizin on Dec 18, 2009 4:04 AM PST reply actions  

Well if we trade our first rounder along with Biedrins and Turiaf for Bosh

we would have 22 mil or so coming off the books aftrer this season. Biedrins and Turiaf together are worth 15 mil, Raja is 2, Speedy is 5, and George is around 2 I believe. We would keep Randolph, Wright, Radmonovic, and we could easily re-sign Mikki as a third center.

I just don’t know if AB, Ronny, and a draft pick are enough to do this

by myk on Dec 20, 2009 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

How about neither of these options...

Because thats what I think the front office will do. They won’t wait for ours to develop, that’s for sure, they currently actively working on getting a trade, but out organization is laughable to the point that we’ll only get pennies on the dollar for the talent and potential we’ll be trading away…whether it be Randolph, Curry, Morrow, Wright or Monta. Either way, we get a quick upgrade, that isn’t worth the sum of the players we’ll shell out. No development, no upgrade on talent.

by esco41510 on Dec 18, 2009 8:36 AM PST reply actions  

Really dude

Back in the 2007 playoffs, The “We Believe” year, honestly how many of you guys thought we would even come close to beating the Mavs. If we did face the #1 seed in a few years, you have to give us more credit, it might even go to a game 7. It really depends on if Monta stays and if he does, how he plays, or if we get that big man that we need so badly that can take over games

by the bay area on Dec 23, 2009 1:31 AM PST reply actions  

idea

apparently its the popluar idea now that monta should go so the warriors should…

1. trade monta and someone(s) else for a position of need (PF, SG, possibly C).

2. make a splash this offseason and take advantage of possibly the best free agent class ever. they should do their damndest to sign an all star like bosh or amare. if they dont do big things this offseason ill lose all hope.

3. draft john wall or someone who will work with curry on the court. curry can shoot damn good making him a SG/PG and wall is a true point but can do anything, any time.

4. or do the exact same thing and trade curry instead of monta. after all monta is 7th in the league in scoring…

by nhlogan on Dec 23, 2009 8:51 AM PST reply actions  

"make a splash"

Here’s the question:

What can the Warriors do to make themselves an attractive destination for one of the top free agents? Remember that ALL of those guys will command the max salary, so we’re not going to beat out other teams by overpaying. We will only beat them out by being a more attractive destination.

And right now we’re one of the least attractive destinations in the league, because of our front office situation. (How many other teams have antagonized player’s agents to the point where we sometimes have a hard time getting players to come work out for us?)

by Ronaldinho on Dec 23, 2009 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

maybe

new uniforms will help! assuming were actually getting some and thats wasnt just a bs rumor. but i swear it makes a huge difference. professional sports are biased based on things such as star power, location, look, etc.

by nhlogan on Dec 23, 2009 9:58 AM PST reply actions  

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