GAME THREAD: Warriors vs. Wizards - The Battle of the W's
by R Dizzle on Dec 18, 2009 12:48 PM PST
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PrintWashington Wizards at Golden State Warriors, Dec 18, 2009 7:30 PM PST
Man, times have changed.
Warriors: 7-17
Wizards: 7-16
Tip-Off: 7:30 pm
TV: CSN Bay Area and ESPN
Radio: KNBR 680
Blog Buddy: Bullets Forever
Take a look at the win-loss column for both teams. We're both at 7. Can you even believe that? 7 WINS? That's it?
With all the talent on these two teams, you'd think things would be different. But as this ESPN Insider Article (one of the few we're ever going to get from them) points out, both teams have tremendously different paths to those 7 wins.
For the league's three "W" teams, 2009-10 hasn't produced many W's. The Warriors, Wizards and Wolves are a combined 18-56, with all three falling short of what already were fairly modest expectations this season.
That kinda...sucks. 18 wins between three teams? Technically speaking, the team's name in Minnesota is the TIMBERWOLVES, but we'll leave that to Hollinger to think about.
In Golden State, it appears the decision may have already been made. The Warriors have made everybody on their roster available in trade discussions, even young pieces like Anthony Randolph and Stephen Curry
That also really really really sucks. I know this has been discussed plenty on the front page, but I have yet toss my thoughts down (seeing as though all you really care about what I think...)
I understand Randolph has not been "living up to his potential" but this is exactly what you get for hyping up the man so much in the offseason. 42 points in Summer League? So what? All that means is that the man has potential. No one's disagreed with that from day 1. His numbers are unreal and the sky is the limit.
BUT, he clearly is not comfortable on the court. Something's missing and I would venture to say it starts with his balance. He ends up on the ground so many times a game, you would think he was in trouble with his parents. Sure they Just Don't Understand, but stay up man! (Gotta love that Fresh Prince reference!)
Should we trade him now? N to the O. Waaaayyyy too much to give up on and too early to even try.
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RUMOR: Anthony Randolph like every Golden State Warrior on the trading block
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Anthony Randolph- Hope Beyond the Hype :: 2009-2010 Golden State Warriors Player Recaps and Previews
Stephen Curry? Why his name even mentioned? We've had him for what..3 months? Just because he didn't put up 55 points in a game like B-Jennings doesn't mean we have the worst player in last year's draft. No need to jump to conclusions, no need to act like we might not have our future point guard. Keep the man!
- Stephen Curry: Let There Be Hope
Of course, further trades wouldn't satisfy Bay Area fans -- with just one playoff appearance in the past 15 years, they're hoping the next rebuilding project starts with owner Chris Cohan's selling the team and continues with the exit of team president Robert Rowell and the front office, all the way down to coach Don Nelson.
I'm done talking about that. Really, I am. We all feel the same way about Cohan's ownership and Rowell's wheelings and dealings. That's that.
At 7-18, it's clear that this season's group isn't going anywhere in the hypercompetitive West, but the Warriors still have a lot of talent on the roster.
Didn't your mom every tell you that if you didn't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all? Meanie...
Playoffs are out of the picture (unless someone wants to come up with some ridiculous trade proposal and then some ridiculous run that we would have to go on to get to WE BELIEVE 2 status...) and this season is out of the picture. Why? Blame it on the injuries, blame on the young guns, blame it o the ownership, blame it on the a-a-a-a-alcohol?
Whatever...throw in the towel for the season cause of Rob Rowell.
At his best, Monta Ellis is an electrifying scorer, leading all guards in points in the paint while averaging 24 ppg.
Now Monta's a funny one. I feel as though I've gone through the same love/hate relationship that Philly fans have gone through with Allen Iverson. One minute he's this "electrifying" scorer, going sky high, making these insane drives and pulling out 360-reverse-no-look-behind-the-back-under-the-legs-layup. Next, he's on a Moped destroying our hopes for a season and questioning his maturity (didn't your mom ever tell you not to lie?) and destroying his ankle. Then he starts saying things like "I can't do it" and acting a bit too much like Stephen Jackson. THEN, his buddy leaves, and somehow he becomes our great leader scoring over 30 points 5 games in a row.
BUT...is that really a big stat on a team that runs and plays no defense? Is that REALLY a great number considering out top scorer was recently traded? As someone said to me after I argued SJax put up LeBron type numbers last year in the month of January...doesn't SOMEONE need to score those points? It just happens to be Monta. Are those numbers really all that great considering he's leading the league in turnovers? What kind of point guard does that?
I don't know man...
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Polling GSoM: Will the Golden State Warriors lead the league in turnovers this season?
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RUMOR: Monta Ellis wants out of Golden State and Warriors looking to trade him
- Monta Ellis: Back in the Saddle
Forward Corey Maggette takes flak for his contract but has one of the league's highest per-minute scoring rates and shoots a solid percentage.
Ok look, I know Corey's usually the scapegoat and everyone's mad about his contract and his lack of whatever for it, but you can't get mad at him for it. That's Rowell's fault. Maggs comes out every game, plays hard, plays with heart, and is a straight professional.
Stop with the boos already. He's one of the last people to deserve it that's part of this organization.
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Polling GSoM: Do Warriors fans need to stop booing Corey Maggette?
- Corey Maggette: The 6th Wonder of the Oracle
And center Andris Biedrins, who has played only four games this season, is a talented 23-year-old center with a 60.5 percent career shooting mark.
I'm sick of hearing about Andris and his "talent." He's a great guy, he was putting up double-doubles when he played, but where is now? 4 games in the season so far? I know you can't help injuries, but this is the 2nd year in a row! We payed him that kind of money for...this?
I'm not mad at him necessarily but I am mad at the Amar'e trade that almost hapened. ALMOST HAPPENED. What was the main argument that was used for why we shouldn't bring on Stoudamire?
INJURY PRONE.
Are you kidding me? Andris isn't? BWright isn't?
- Andris Biedrins: The Forgotten Warrior
- Brandan Wright: Injury Prone
- Phoenix Suns: Who knows?
Those four players, along with the ridiculously accurate Anthony Morrow (46.9 percent career mark on 3-pointers)
If we're keeping one guy on this team, I hope to the basketball Gods it's Ammo. 47% 3-pointers CAREER? Who does that? The talent's there, no doubt, but I think the best part about Chocolate Rain is that he knows NOW how to play within his game. He understands his role and brings it hard every night.
He's been in a slump lately, ever since he took some time off for the death in the family. I hope he comes back to form sooner rather than later.
- Anthony Morrow: Ammo + Chocolate Rain
As a result, the Warriors are pretty much in the same place we find themselves in every season: with too many one-on-one scorers and far too little of anything else. They have the assets to remedy the situation; they've just never shown any willingness to do so.
One very very very VERY simple way to fix this. GET NEW OWNERSHIP.
Moving on...
Wizards fans might rightly argue, however, that Golden State is in much better shape than their team
I feel so sad for Wizards fans if this is truly the case. We're terrible and one road victory is like winning the NBA Finals. Can't imagine how it would be for Wizards fans.
they have one genuinely horrible contract in Gilbert Arenas' six-year, $111 million deal that still has four seasons to go after this one. Yes, the Warriors have a couple doozies on their roster, too, but nothing of this magnitude. Arenas is giving them midlevel-caliber production at a superstar price, and it will be virtually impossible to trade him given his history of knee problems and middling production this season. Not even the Warriors would take the bait on that.
Ha ha ha Hollinger. "Not even the Warriors would take the bait on that"? Is that supposed to be a low blow or something? I distinctly remember we did offer a silly and comparable contract to Agent 0, only to get "laughed at" and denied.
It's sad to say, but it's time to turn over Gil because he's done. All these injuries have added up and he ain't the same. It's sad to say, but the Wizards would be better served elsewhere.
Washington should also look into finding a new home for 29-year-old Caron Butler; dealing him for an expiring contract could shave another $10 million from next season's bill. That might be done more easily, however, if Butler would make some shots. He's having his worst season since his second one in Miami, shooting only 41.4 percent from the floor and shedding four points from his 40-minute scoring average.
How bout...Devean George, Speedy Claxton, and Vlad Rad for Butler? No receipt necessary. K, thanks.
Guy that's not making his shots? Hey, we've got plenty of those anyway. At least Butler does those cool NBA Cares commercials. I'd love to have a decent fellow on this team.
Otherwise, it's a veteran team, with the decision to trade the No. 5 pick in the draft for Mike Miller and Randy Foye only exacerbating the Wizards' increasingly tilted age profile.
This is by far the hardest part of the Wizard's story. They decided to make a "Celtics" move and trade their future for a "win-now" mentality. The thought of a healthy Areneas-Jamison-Butler combo was a good enough to consider as a "Big 3" and justify getting some role players for that #5 draft pick. Kinda crazy in a loaded draft like last year's...but they did it.
Now look.
These teams are both a mess and there's no way around it.
R Dizzle's Predictions
- Warriors by 10
- Gilbert does NOT get warm welcome by fans at home
- Vlad Rad and Maggs get booed
- Monta Ellis with 30 points
- I'm excited to watch the first 20 minutes of the game, but then I cry at the disaster that is called "basketball" the rest of it
But hey, at least I get to have fun! Yes, today is the 2nd Annual GSoM Holiday Party and we're all excited to hang out, chill at the game and enjoy a "Great Time Out!"
Recaps, pics, and analysis to come tomorrow....
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I don't think Maggette is going to get booed
unless he starts jacking up long range shots that have little chance of going in. I HOPE Radman doesn’t get booed, but that depends on whether the crowd knows that HE knows he’s in the worst shooting slump of his career.
Let’s hope Morrow’s back on track. Perhaps a couple of days here at home with his family is what he needs to settle himself, especially if he’s grieving inside. Remember, the Warriors have been on the road for a week since Morrow returned to the team. He hasn’t been home to see his family yet until the Spurs game.
Beyond that, I’m rooting for a win. Never give up, never quit, keep coming back no matter how down you are.
Seriously
Not bringing in Amare was stupid. Now trying to trade for people that aren’t even close to Amares status is stupid. And its funny to hear people say this and that about his defense/rebounding. A star is a star… Stupid FO.
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Take a moment to ponder what an ignorant statement this is. A star is a star? Is this a popularity contest? Who cares about defense and rebounding? Oh, I dunno, people who like winning basketball games.
Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!
by Supafishal on Dec 18, 2009 1:36 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
meh. would you still feel the same at the end of this season when Amare leaves and the W’s end up with nothing but $12-14 mill in cap space and sign another Maggette?
Amare would have been typical Robert Rowell thinking. A 1 yr band-aid to boost ticket sales.
And with hindsight, would they have even been a playoff team? Houston is currently 8th and on pace for 46 wins. using WS, the remaining roster is (based on history) at worst projects to be a 31 win team and at best projects to be 44 win team. so basically most metrics say that Monta would have to be as efficient as 07-08, Amare would have to revert to his 04-05 & 07-08 form and Jack would have to rebound from last season’s drop just to get a chance at the playoffs.
those 3 are nowhere near that productivity, but let’s just say they get a 9th seed, Cohan lines his pockets and Amare bolts for greener pastures. would that satisfy you? if that would then you’re justified in saying it was stupid. but i bet you’d be bitching about how they ended up losing Andris, Kelenna, Wright, Marco & Curry for nothing.
by homer simpson on Dec 18, 2009 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
yup. which is the sad state of being a Warrior fan.
by homer simpson on Dec 18, 2009 2:01 PM PST up reply actions
Monta
Curry
Morrow
Azubuike
Wright
Randolph
Turiaf
Biedrins
+ only one bad / hard-to-trade contract (Maggette)
+ (likely) a high first round pick and a puncher’s chance at John Wall.
I’d take that over what at least half the teams in the NBA have. The only thing really not to like about what we have now, AFAIK, is Cohan/Rowell/Nelson. Which, granted, is a lot … but which we’d be stuck with either way. Indeed, abjectly sucking for a little while (rather than marginally sucking, as we would if we had Amare) probably increases the chances of a wholesale change at the top.
Cheer up, friends!
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Dec 18, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
=(
Losing brings the worst out of all of us
by bojangles408 on Dec 18, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
Let's trade AR for Tracy McGrady.
Romes Mac Mojous
by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Dec 18, 2009 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
We need D and rebounding from our bigs. Amare brings in scoring sure but remember he has Nash to feed him. He does not rebound or D up well. What we should have done was pull the trigger for Tayshaun Prince.
by Badly Browned on Dec 18, 2009 4:00 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
The same Tayshaun Prince
Who turns 30 in two months and has back issues? Who’s almost certainly overrated because, like BJ Armstrong and Derek Fisher before him, he has a ring? A solid defender and decent perimeter shooter, who’s also a bad rebounder, doesn’t block shots or force steals, and can’t really create his own shot, get himself to the line, or set up his teammates? And who would have stolen minutes from Kelenna and Wright, both of whom (if healthy) are already more productive players, with some actual upside?
Who on our team would you have given up for this glittering prize?
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Dec 18, 2009 4:54 PM PST up reply actions
There was a rumored deal
involving Stephen Jackson for Tayshaun Prince, instead of extending Jackson.
I assume that is what he was talking about.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 18, 2009 5:46 PM PST up reply actions
Whoops
My bad. I forgot about that rumor. If it was a straight Jack-Prince swap, I would have been pretty happy with it, if for no other reason than Prince’s shorter contract. But I’ve always felt Prince’s hoops skills were pretty overrated.
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Dec 18, 2009 5:50 PM PST up reply actions
I kinda figured you were just forgetting that
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 18, 2009 6:08 PM PST up reply actions
D’oh (again) … I just realized you wrote “instead of extending Jackson,” not “after.” In that case, I think I would have rather hung onto Jackson’s expiring contract and held out for something better than Prince.
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Dec 18, 2009 6:18 PM PST up reply actions
I blame it all on the loss of our mascot.
by samuraaaaiiiiiii on Dec 18, 2009 1:25 PM PST reply actions
Fitz just said...
He’s trade Maggette + Randolph 4 Caron Butler
and with this trade
we begin the fight to be a 30 win team!
Yeah
It seems like Caron Butler is already starting to taper off a bit, and is not worth giving up Randolph. Maybe a Maggette and Wright trade, but even then we might be giving up too much for a guy who looks like he’s coming out of his prime.
but he would be great for a team that needs a premiere SF
He would bring so much to the warriors even if he can’t score as efficient like he use to.. passing/defense/post presence
by bojangles408 on Dec 18, 2009 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
at least we'd get rid of maggs contract
I’d rather have wright in that trade than AR though
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UGH. Butler is, quite literally, a worse version of Maggette right now. Don’t get me wrong — we should do Maggette for Butler straight up in a heartbeat, just to dump the extra years. But you do not pay Anthony Randolph for the right to downgrade Corey Maggette.
Fitz sorta nauseates me, but in some ways I do find him impressive… it’s not easy to toe the line for a company that is this incoherently stupid.
Ladies and gentlemen, your Golden State Worriers.
Pretty much agree, but...
admittedly I haven’t watched him all that closely lately, but Butler is from what I’ve seen a way better defender than Maggette.
Fitz sorta nauseates me, but in some ways I do find him impressive… it’s not easy to toe the line for a company that is this incoherently stupid.
That made me laugh.
"I could be chasing an untamed ornithoid without cause."
While Butler is surely the better defender historically, he’s sorta been phoning it in on that end lately, a good bit more than Maggette. Corey’s defensive effort has actually been pretty solid this year, considering the huge guys he’s asked to cover. If Butler still has an edge on that end, it’s not a big one, not nearly as big as the gaps in their offensive performances. Butler has slipped badly over the last two seasons… there’s a reason he’s the guy they’re looking to dump.
Slight tangent: at some point, I hope more people realize just how good, consistent and low-maintenance Maggette has been for us since arriving. We’ve made him play a position he’s not suited for, we’ve made him a bench player, we’ve dramatically cut his minutes; the organization has basically acted annoyed about his presence ever since he signed him. In return, he has played well and without complaint, and is maintaining his level of player far better than many guys his age.
Warriors fans should really like this guy. If we ever hope to have some great players again, we need to learn to appreciate the pretty-good ones when they come our way.
Ladies and gentlemen, your Golden State Worriers.
(apologies for the mumbly mistakes in there)
Ladies and gentlemen, your Golden State Worriers.
UGH. Butler is, quite literally, a worse version of Maggette right now.
Dunno about that. sure maggette is a more efficient scorer, and definitely this year (cause butler doesn’t fit the system). Butler is a much better and much more willing passer. And a miles better defender. But no i wouldn’t do it for randolph
While Butler is surely the better defender historically, he’s sorta been phoning it in on that end lately, a good bit more than Maggette. Corey’s defensive effort has actually been pretty solid this year, considering the huge guys he’s asked to cover. If Butler still has an edge on that end, it’s not a big one, not nearly as big as the gaps in their offensive performances. Butler has slipped badly over the last two seasons… there’s a reason he’s the guy they’re looking to dump.
Slight tangent: at some point, I hope more people realize just how good, consistent and low-maintenance Maggette has been for us since arriving. We’ve made him play a position he’s not suited for, we’ve made him a bench player, we’ve dramatically cut his minutes; the organization has basically acted annoyed about his presence ever since he signed him. In return, he has played well and without complaint, and is maintaining his level of player far better than many guys his age.
Warriors fans should really like this guy. If we ever hope to have some great players again, we need to learn to appreciate the pretty-good ones when they come our way.
Ladies and gentlemen, your Golden State Worriers.
Fitz has got to be one of the biggest idiots I’ve ever listened to
by randolphforpresident on Dec 18, 2009 5:55 PM PST up reply actions
How quickly we forget the Bush years… ;-)
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Dec 18, 2009 6:19 PM PST up reply actions
The Wizards an older version of our 02-04 teams
Wizards: Arenas, Butler, Jamison
Warriors: Arenas, Ricahardson, Jamison
I like our old trio better
major difference
They got those players in prime of there career… and even then it was a 4th or 5th place team in east. AKA in west they’d be an 8 seed in that time period
I really don't see us winning this game tonight.
Please, Dubs, make me eat my words.
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
Have a side of fries with that also.
What beverage would you like as well?
Romes Mac Mojous
by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Dec 18, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions
I’ll take a Blue Moon. With an orange slice to garnish. Mmmmm.
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
Word. That sounds good as hail right now.
I hear ya on not knowing if we get this win tonight or not.
Regardless. this should be a very entertaining game to watch.
Keyword: should.
Romes Mac Mojous
by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Dec 18, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
it seems we say this too much. they “should” win this game, they “should” win that game… we both know what the outcome usually is.
but yes, nevertheless, it WILL be entertaining.
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
What was the main argument that was used for why we shouldn’t bring on Stoudemire?
INJURY PRONE.
I can only speak for myself, but that was far from my “main argument” against the deal. The fact that he appeared to be in serious decline (esp. in his rebounding), had never played a lick of D, had no concept of sharing the ball, and had never been his team leader, on the floor or off, were much bigger concerns. And based on his performance so far this season (1:3 A:TO ratio, least valuable regular player on the Suns) those concerns have been entirely borne out.
Thing is, it wasn’t just about “bringing on” Stoudemire. I’d still love to “bring on” a guy with his elite offensive skills as a third or fourth banana, on a reasonable Biedrins-type contract that took him up to age 27 or 28. But, in addition to liquidating our a big chunk of our cheap young core, we were likely looking at chaining ourselves to this declining one-dimensional role player with a max or near-max extension that would have taken him well into his 30s. And all this is ignoring the injury concerns, which, healthy 20-game stretch notwithstanding, still exist.
This is by far the hardest part of the Wizards’ story. They decided to make a “Celtics” move and trade their future for a “win-now” mentality. The thought of a healthy Arenas-Jamison-Butler combo was a good enough to consider as a “Big 3” and justify getting some role players for that #5 draft pick. Kinda crazy in a loaded draft like last year’s…but they did it.
Very well said. Which is precisely why you don’t throw all your cheap young talent at whatever flavor-of-the-month so-called “star player” the ESPN-addled star-hounds are clamoring for (be it Amare, Artest, Iverson, Jermaine O’Neal, Z-Bo, Jefferson, Boozer, etc. etc.) It’s like Hearts — if you’re going to try to shoot the moon, you better have at least some shot at success. A true top-tier both-ends-of-the-floor stud like Garnett gives enough of a real shot at championship contention to make it totally worth the risk. The only “shot” third and fourth tier guys like Randy Foye and Amare Stoudemire give you is the kind you put in your foot (or maybe your head).
There will be no extra point!
yep....
everyone forgets Jamison came in 2004 (when he was 28) for stackhouse laetner and a 1st. That 1st turned into Devin Harris. but it could have easily been Iguodala, Biedrins, Josh Smith, jameer nelson or al jefferson…. heck ariza in 2nd round
Not to mention the fact that he probably wouldn’t have extended here, anyway. I can’t claim innocence here… I had a few stretches where I was tempted. And if Andris doesn’t come back healthy (seriously, WHAT is going on with that), it might be that it would’ve worked out okay in a depressing “crap in, crap out” sorta way. But there’s no question — Amare is not a max player right now, let alone one you sell the farm for. The Sleepys of the world has this one pegged.
Ladies and gentlemen, your Golden State Worriers.
Blame the injuries,
If it wasn’t for key injuries, we wouldn’t be on this big of a slump.
-Maggette … i rather have Buike back, that adds to 3 Point shooting, Passing, and rebounding.
-Randolph,… he’s struggling and bickering with Nellie, I don’t blame him since he has too much fire in him… I rather have Wright in for him, Solid post game( Hasn’t shown much but I’m sure it’s better than Randolph)
And of course our 2 Centers.. So shouldn’t be too upset that we’re going downhill, we have injuries to blame.
If we had a full roster, and we suck like we do now, THEN it’s okay to groan about sucking. IMO, with a full roster, we’re a playoff team.
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Well, we're a lot better team, anyway
Not a playoff team in the West even with our ‘A’ roster, though. But I’d love to see Wright, AB, and Buike in our rotation. Hopefully we’ll get AB back soon.
@worldblee on Twitter.
The key player tonight?
Oracle Arena.
These are two dumb, misaligned, depressing teams, both very capable of losing for the slightest and silliest reasons. In the past, the energy of the Oakland faithful has been enough to carry us to victory on nights like these… even in our darker years, we’ve shown an unusually large disparity between our home and road records. A hot crowd could provide the slight gust of wind that we need.
The question is, have those hot crowds finally left the building? Attendance is down, and enthusiasm seems down ever more; the abject disappointment of this franchise may have finally erased the Oracle magic. It’s not clear yet. But tonight’s game should provide a clear test. If we win, it will be at least in part because the hometown crowd still, against all odds, cares. If we lose, it may reveal that even more is broken than we’ve realized.
Ladies and gentlemen, your Golden State Worriers.
This.
I agree with you. Some games The Oracle hot crowd is there. Some games they arent there.
The worst is when the hot crowd isnt there when we play the Lakers.
I know as an NBA player, it shouldn’t matter what environment is out there, but it definitely does help to have the hometown support. Especially with this team and especially when these players say “Booing them” doesn’t help the cause.
Yes it would be nice for each player to be on fire and cause wreck as a team, but eh, they are also human and sometimes they’ll be off.
The game on Wednesday, the hot crowd wasn’t there. I mean there were maybe a good crowd of 30% enthisastic folks there, but I miss when it used to be 100% Roaracle heads amped up and rockin.
I hope the Roaracle wakes up from their nap tonight.
Romes Mac Mojous
by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Dec 18, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions
I was the loudest fool at the game
“It’s a party up there” – Davis
by bojangles408 on Dec 18, 2009 5:56 PM PST up reply actions
On the bright side...
We’re luckier fans than a lot of teams.
Imagine being a fan of the Pistons right now. They’re in contention for the 5th seed in the east, they’re hovering around .500. Seems better than the warriors, right? nah. they have no chance of ever winning more than 45 games, they’re loaded with boring veterans who aren’t ever going to be better than they are currently, and they have absolutely zero potential guys.
Give me the Monta, Randolph, Ammo and Curry, even if they’re 0-82, any day of the week over a team that’s permanently stuck in mediocrity.
Many people will disagree with that. But we have potential. I see hope. It may not be soon, but I see some things that make me smile, make me remember why I’m passionate about basketball, and make me think that by the time I can afford season tickets I’ll be looking at a fun to watch, solid playoff team.
Would I get that being a Detroit fan? hell no.
Word to Stuckey and Daye.
More of a Stuckey fan tho.
Romes Mac Mojous
by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Dec 18, 2009 4:02 PM PST reply actions
Main reason Amare was not wanted is because he is a malcontent.
Remember a guy name Stephen Jackson?
What was the main argument that was used for why we shouldn’t bring on Stoudamire?
INJURY PRONE.
Are you kidding me? Andris isn’t? BWright isn’t?
Comparing Amare and the max contract he will demand to those guys just isn’t fair at this point.
Speaking of which: Here in Phoenix, on local sports radio there is a daily segment called “Amare’Can Idol”. During this segment, the judges decide whether Amare played like a max contract player or not. He hasn’t done very well so far with a record of 13-13. http://www.ktar.com/index.php?sid=1239126&nid=788
BTW.. Great Post. Thanks!
If Bochy coached the Warriors Bengie Molina would start every game at PG.
13-13
Is actually better than I would have expected. I’d guess that number is being inflated a fair bit by the aura of good feeling that results from the Suns winning games — something due more to Nash’s sublime (and distinctly un-36 year-old) play than anything else.
As Nash starts to show his age, the setting Suns inch ever closer to .500, and fans start to realize their team is not even in the same universe talent-wise as the top teams in the NBA, that cloud of good will is going to evaporate pretty quickly. Unless Amare picks up his numbers substantially (not impossible) I would imagine the ranks of Suns fans who want to sign Amare to a max deal are going to thin rapidly.
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Dec 18, 2009 5:10 PM PST up reply actions
This is going to be the first game that I’ve attended this season. I’m hoping I can muster up a little enthusiasm tonight. It’s been a pretty rough year….
"I could be chasing an untamed ornithoid without cause."
The problem with mustering enthiusiasm for this team is that no matter how well they play and how excited you get, that lingering suspicion that the other team’s 20-2 run is just around the corner is always there.
Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!
by Supafishal on Dec 18, 2009 5:03 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I've been thinking about the Radman boos
Did the boos come when he was taken OUT of the game, or put back IN the game? If the boos came when he was put back IN the game, then the boos weren’t on Radman, but on the DECISION to put back Radman. Which would mean the boos are on Nellie, not Radman.
I know for sure it happened when he was put back in
but I think it might have happened other times as well.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 18, 2009 5:54 PM PST up reply actions
Nellie must love D'Antoni's coaching style
Galinari was coming off the bench (coming back from injury) until he took 15 3pt shots last night. That was enough for D’Antoni to put him back as a starter. lol. Harrington was slacking off and only took 13 3pters last night as a starter, earning himself a trip back to the bench.
Although… D’Antoni doesn’t seem to like Nate Robinson, a guy whom I have a feeling Nellie would love.
If Bochy coached the Warriors Bengie Molina would start every game at PG.
Man, I wish Nellie coached like that… at least shooting an insane number of threes has a possible upside. D’Antoni is the coach that Nellie used to be: offensively minded and offbeat, but with enough basic logic to hold it all together. There is no purer indictment of Nellie’s recent coaching than the fact that D’Antoni’s Knicks are four games better than Nellie’s Warriors since the beginning of last year, despite a roster that couldn’t hold a candle to ours.
Ladies and gentlemen, your Golden State Worriers.
Um, Let's Go Warriors!?
I am not going to say this is a winnable game. Don’t want to jinx the home team.
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Game Predictions
- The Washington Wizards defeat our Golden State Warriors, 110-102.
- Monta Ellis leads the way with 28 points.
- Anthony Morrow gets his shot back tonight.
- There is a funny sign in the crowd relating to our team.
- Gilbert Arenas, Caron Butler or Antawn Jamison scores a career-high point total.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 18, 2009 6:08 PM PST reply actions
Gilbert Arenas, Caron Butler or Antawn Jamison scores a career-high point total.
Wow … so either Gil gets 61+, Antawn gets 52+, or Caron gets 39+?
I’ll take the under… ;-)
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Dec 18, 2009 6:24 PM PST up reply actions
Sure
I’m feeling lucky!
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 18, 2009 6:28 PM PST up reply actions
The way Gilbert is shooting, he’d have to take like 98 shots to reach 61 points.
Hey, it could happen…
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Dec 18, 2009 6:30 PM PST up reply actions
LGW
hope we can get a win tonight and the Anthonies and Curry have big games
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Can't wait until GS wins a championship!!!
We're due for a win. Let's go Warriors!
I’ll even sport my Sprewell jersey at home tonight haha.
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 18, 2009 7:25 PM PST reply actions
Don't tie the game Jennings! Let the Warriors play.
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Dec 18, 2009 7:31 PM PST reply actions
I was about to ask the same thing.
I think I’m gonna watch it on ESPN for the most part. Just to get a different experience.
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 18, 2009 7:38 PM PST up reply actions
Upside to having game on ESPN
Monta- 23ppg 6 apg 4 rpg
+
Ammo - 15ppg 3 apg 5rpg
+
AR- 19 ppg 9 rpg 2 apg
+
Currry- 13ppg 6 apg 4 rpg
+
Beans - 12 ppg 12 rpg
+
Maggs off the Bench =
8th SEED BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
morrow!!!!!
Monta- 23ppg 6 apg 4 rpg
+
Ammo - 15ppg 3 apg 5rpg
+
AR- 19 ppg 9 rpg 2 apg
+
Currry- 13ppg 6 apg 4 rpg
+
Beans - 12 ppg 12 rpg
+
Maggs off the Bench =
8th SEED BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
morrow IN AND OUT on that running transition 3
but that’s pretty close, looked good
it's quiet in here
is everyone at the game?
I thought so too
Which is odd because ESPN announcers said “Warriors always have a great crowd”
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 18, 2009 7:46 PM PST up reply actions
haha 8-1 Warriors.
How are you gonna start a game w/ one point
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 18, 2009 7:45 PM PST reply actions
Warriors are makin a good impression on national television...
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Dec 18, 2009 7:49 PM PST reply actions
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Oh, by the way, Mikki Moore out a minimum of three months after successful surgery today.
Arenas and Jamison may be getting a cold reception
But wait until Earl the Pearl enters the game, instant pop.
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No one is stopping Curry apparently...
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Dec 18, 2009 7:51 PM PST up reply actions
box score says morrow missed 2 3's
The first miss was a transition 3 that was in and out. Did you guys see the second miss? How close or bad was the miss?
i'll have to assume so
it seems like hunter can make those, based on the limited minutes we’ve seen
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 18, 2009 7:54 PM PST up reply actions
Our gameplan is to run the Wizards off the floor...
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Dec 18, 2009 7:53 PM PST reply actions
Can I call a Curry career night?
gettin’ too excited here but it’s good to see Curry shooting the ball at this rate.
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Dec 18, 2009 7:55 PM PST reply actions
they say monta's handling the ball less
you guys see the same thing?
I think this is a tad too helter skelter
Even for us. We’re not the same team we used to be just a few years ago.
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 18, 2009 7:56 PM PST reply actions
Hunter
Yes, he’s worse than Moore.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 18, 2009 7:57 PM PST reply actions
Not even,at least he's visible.
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Dec 18, 2009 7:57 PM PST up reply actions
refs suddenly loving curry
giving him a late foul call
AR at least looked unter control there
that’s not a mistake that’s worth getting the yank
What is Randolph doing?
One game he looks so good then the next he gets hard-headed.
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Dec 18, 2009 7:59 PM PST reply actions
it's hasn't been tried all that often with AR
but i guess there’s not much else Nellie trusts AR with offensively right now
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 18, 2009 8:02 PM PST up reply actions
Hello all.....its ya friendly Brit here
A little drunk…. and looking for a stream… ;)
"Better a Has-been than a Never-was. But better a Never-was than a Never-tried-to-be"
just a little...lol
"Better a Has-been than a Never-was. But better a Never-was than a Never-tried-to-be"
by BritWarriorGSW on Dec 18, 2009 8:02 PM PST up reply actions
thank you sir
"Better a Has-been than a Never-was. But better a Never-was than a Never-tried-to-be"
by BritWarriorGSW on Dec 18, 2009 8:02 PM PST up reply actions
it's a little strange that AR can make FTs
but not those mid range shots
He's gotten pretty good at the elbow jumper
but not much else.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 18, 2009 8:02 PM PST up reply actions
i think that's part of it
the other part might be to keep AR’s gameplan simple until he’s consistent with it. I don’t exactly trust AR to drive every time.
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 18, 2009 8:04 PM PST up reply actions
10 points already....damn
Arenas telling Curry…. “got ya plane ticket yet kid?”
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Another block taken away
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I'm glad we don't have the Wizards jersey.
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 18, 2009 8:07 PM PST reply actions
Neither really.
They’re rather clueless. When the game started they seemed high on them and now they’re just sorta like oh uhh… Curry and Arenas sure are swell.
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 18, 2009 8:11 PM PST up reply actions
I remember them saying earlier
That we’re doing so well we didn’t need Monta to score. I’m sure they’re eating their words now.
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 18, 2009 8:13 PM PST up reply actions
JVG like Monta’s move on Foye.
they commented that he must have worked on his post game.
by homer simpson on Dec 18, 2009 8:55 PM PST up reply actions
None at all actually
Unless I missed it.
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 18, 2009 8:12 PM PST up reply actions
they made fun of him for the inbound.the broadcaster mentioned how Nellie said AR gets a bad rap but hasn’t had proper coaching (3 high schools, 1 yr in college had coaching turmoil). Mark Jackson said that still doesn’t excuse AR.
JVG said AR should be benched for letting Haywood dribble from 12 ft out in for a dunk.
by homer simpson on Dec 18, 2009 8:53 PM PST up reply actions
that's exactly what happened to AR
he was pulled for Maggette
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 18, 2009 8:54 PM PST up reply actions
They were talking about how Curry is a natural born shooter
Obviously they haven’t noticed that he passes a whole lot.
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 18, 2009 8:11 PM PST up reply actions
JVG said he’s shocked when Morrow misses.
Jackson said Monta can get his whenever he wants.
they love Curry’s passing skills.
JVG said he likes Andris’ game.
JVG said Maggette doesn’t pass, he drives with his head down to score (and said that’s not a bad thing). then when Maggette made a drive & kick, he apologized to Maggette.
However, mostly they’ve been pointing out all the defensive mistakes both teams are making.
by homer simpson on Dec 18, 2009 8:58 PM PST up reply actions
nice try at a monster dunk, maggette
but that’s one way to finish the qtr, maggette drawing the foul
i liked it
he looked for the finish not the foul
absolutely
that’s his strength. there should be no boos on him tonight
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 18, 2009 8:09 PM PST up reply actions
not to mention that was a QUICK maggette move
lull your defender to sleep, then STRIKE
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 18, 2009 8:10 PM PST up reply actions
Maggette has to finish that...
the dunk was unnecessary,just lay it in!
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Dec 18, 2009 8:08 PM PST reply actions
good d maggs
arenas wasnt gonna pass that, great help
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Nellie going to pull his hair out tonight on the center spot
AR was pulled out for Hunter late in the qtr. I don’t know which one Nellie can rely on.
oh never mind
that switch happened with 10 sec to go, so it could be to protect AR from foul trouble
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 18, 2009 8:12 PM PST up reply actions
Ggreat pass
Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "You're a rookie"
by dubzfan on Dec 18, 2009 8:15 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Oddly enough
I really feel like ESPN was expecting the Warriors to dominate. Right now they seem confused as to how we’re losing.
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 18, 2009 8:15 PM PST reply actions
AR
Why in Nellie’s scheme does AR have to initiate his own offense? He should be doing everything but initiate his own offense.
er, make that with his RIGHT hand
got my left right confused in real time
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 18, 2009 8:18 PM PST up reply actions
That's what AR should be doing...
Fillin the lane
no
i’m not. when we had the road games, smart played them together. aside from Corey’s TO, they did very well together. thus, it’s odd that nellie’s not playing corey.
wow, monta showing off his no look over the shoulder shots during practice/pregame
but how many did he miss?
Hate to see my man Jamison down...
but that’s a plus for us.
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Dec 18, 2009 8:22 PM PST reply actions
when Curry plays with confidence like this...
I can see why peple compare him to Nash. Sure he’s a LONG way off… but i see the potentia
yeah, this is some great curry confidence tonight
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 18, 2009 8:24 PM PST up reply actions
he makes smart decisions
i forgot what that was like
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Antawn is on the ground writing in pain after a collision with Curry. It was Jamison’s injured right shoulder
My bad. Left shoulder. Jamison hurt it at Sacramento on Wednesday
Interesting
Looks like he ran into Vlad first and then when he hit Curry he reacted.
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 18, 2009 8:25 PM PST reply actions
Q FOR ALL: Are you watching on ESPN or Comcast?
I’m on ESPN. Nice to get national perspective as opposed to soviet russia-like fitz propoganda
ESPN
But they don’t seem to know much about Warriors in their current state.
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 18, 2009 8:29 PM PST up reply actions
Turnovers & missing wide open shots..
Warriors ball baby!!
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by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 18, 2009 8:28 PM PST up reply actions
I'm way taller than him
I’m a sure thing!
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 18, 2009 8:30 PM PST up reply actions
*high five*
Center for the Warriors!
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 18, 2009 8:30 PM PST up reply actions
Monta Ellis is unbelieveable...
I wonder how it feels like to be an opposing fan watching him play.
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Dec 18, 2009 8:28 PM PST reply actions
Curry was wiiidddeee open on the wing..
Might have been better not to pass to him though, Curry only makes contested jumpers haha
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Boykins is not getting the ball...
maybe his teammates can’t see him.
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Dec 18, 2009 8:29 PM PST reply actions
CURRY!
if randolph or anyone could learn to run a pick and roll, I think Curry can run it
WOW...
Boykin’s head is on Randolph’s crotch level.
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Dec 18, 2009 8:30 PM PST reply actions
Randolph YOU DONKEY!
"Better a Has-been than a Never-was. But better a Never-was than a Never-tried-to-be"
:)
Ahhhh yes…it worked so well there
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by BritWarriorGSW on Dec 18, 2009 8:35 PM PST up reply actions
Randolph is exactly like Odom...
they both can have a total mental breakdown.
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Dec 18, 2009 8:33 PM PST reply actions
AR bad defense
gave up the open lane to haywood
Here comes maggette!
my fantasy team needs this
Wow
All these Wizards games have been very close.
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 18, 2009 8:35 PM PST reply actions
BREAK OUT OF YOUR SLUMP OLD...YOUNG man!
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Dec 18, 2009 8:36 PM PST reply actions
Horrible shot...
way to kill the momentum Ellis.
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Dec 18, 2009 8:36 PM PST reply actions
Radman playing nice ball
"Better a Has-been than a Never-was. But better a Never-was than a Never-tried-to-be"
pick your poison
AR can’t keep haywood away from the hoop, but no AR means no rebounds
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 18, 2009 8:38 PM PST up reply actions
sadly monta is shooting 35% from 3pt range
making it more efficient than his midranger
And way better than him making a turnover
I don’t mind if he takes some dumb shots. His dumb shots are better than a lot of other W’s good shots.
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ESPN announcers finally realized Curry is a play maker
Not a shooter.
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 18, 2009 8:38 PM PST reply actions
eh... he's still more of a shooter
but he’s got it in him to be a playmaker
Well they were comparing him to his father earlier
Who was apparently a pure shooter.
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 18, 2009 8:41 PM PST up reply actions
hahahaha
that’s why i prefer bob and jim. more inside knowledge
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 18, 2009 8:40 PM PST up reply actions
Adverts for erectile dysfunction......
Hmmm alcohol seems to have the same effect…. :)
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hmm, morrow wears contacts
wonder why he looks like with glasses on
wouldn't that be awesome?
puts on glasses, hits 6 3’s!
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 18, 2009 8:42 PM PST up reply actions
GREAT PLAY MAGGETTE
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Maggette atlethic finish...
Decent half.
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Dec 18, 2009 8:43 PM PST reply actions
morrow's shot seems better tonight, closer to making it
i think that’s 2 in-and-out misses tonight
Its funny....
IF MAggette was on a 5 year 25 mil contract, he’d be everyones fav. but since he’s paid 50 we think he sucks.
I don't know about favorite
He’s still pretty excruciating to watch.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 18, 2009 8:46 PM PST up reply actions
but i have to give credit to the coaching staff
i think they changed his game, perhaps after hearing those boos, perhaps out of necessity from the injuries, and he’s doing his thing again.
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 18, 2009 8:47 PM PST up reply actions
Yes but his effort is much improved....
for that he gets my respect….
"Better a Has-been than a Never-was. But better a Never-was than a Never-tried-to-be"
by BritWarriorGSW on Dec 18, 2009 8:47 PM PST up reply actions
i'm not sure if it's effort so much as his game plan
he’s not taking many mid shots any more. He’s back to driving, drawing fouls.
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 18, 2009 8:48 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed....that be true I believe
"Better a Has-been than a Never-was. But better a Never-was than a Never-tried-to-be"
by BritWarriorGSW on Dec 18, 2009 8:55 PM PST up reply actions
agreed
+1
"Better a Has-been than a Never-was. But better a Never-was than a Never-tried-to-be"
by BritWarriorGSW on Dec 18, 2009 8:46 PM PST up reply actions
Let's call his agent to see if he'll go for it
“But we’ll make your client into a fan hero!”
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Yep holy crap...FIVE teeth lost..
an some in Dirk’s elbow….EEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwww
"Better a Has-been than a Never-was. But better a Never-was than a Never-tried-to-be"
by BritWarriorGSW on Dec 18, 2009 8:48 PM PST up reply actions
Seriously...the ESPN guys just said....5 teeth lost...
and acouple stuck in Dirks elbow….
"Better a Has-been than a Never-was. But better a Never-was than a Never-tried-to-be"
by BritWarriorGSW on Dec 18, 2009 8:50 PM PST up reply actions
I hate Kobe
But he did put up 42 points the other night with a broken finger.
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that's because it wasn't against the magics
not saying that the Buck isn’t good, just not good as the Magics.
Kobe probably be on the bench, crying with a broken finger.
Avery Johnson – “on the flo,I mean on the floor.” haha
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Dec 18, 2009 8:49 PM PST reply actions
curry has not rested yet
monta got 40 game seconds of rest
Yeah, don't insult us with that 4th quarter collapse crap
We can collapse faster than that.
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LOL very funny
"Better a Has-been than a Never-was. But better a Never-was than a Never-tried-to-be"
by BritWarriorGSW on Dec 18, 2009 8:59 PM PST up reply actions
Hunter got a start? Looks like it didn’t turn out too well from the box score?
by Badly Browned on Dec 18, 2009 8:59 PM PST up reply actions
Curry was HOT early, then Wizards went on a run, in the 2nd qtr, we came back against their bench. Randolph did well until he had to guard haywood. Monta looked like he was letting others get into the game in the 1st, then got into his game in the 2nd. Maggette doing his usual thing driving to the basket. Morrow’s shot looks closer to hitting now. He had 2 in-and-out misses. Radman hit one shot and had 1 fast break dunk. Still doing his thing on defense.
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 18, 2009 9:01 PM PST up reply actions
don't remember how hunter did
i was eating and not paying attention to the game as much
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 18, 2009 9:03 PM PST up reply actions
terrific fast break!
nice energy to start the 3rd
SIDNEY MONCRIEF.........
PLEASE….come back…..
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Far out.. GET THE BALL!
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when AR goes for the monster block, it takes him out of rebounding position
very much like turiaf
That looked like an odd pass
But it worked.
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 18, 2009 9:09 PM PST reply actions
BEAUTIFUL PASS
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What time does the bandwagon arrive?
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Dec 18, 2009 9:11 PM PST reply actions
Unofficial statistic of the game:
Randolph has more assists tonight than Amare Stoudemire has … in his NBA career.
There will be no extra point!
I said “unofficial”…
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Dec 18, 2009 9:13 PM PST up reply actions
Haha. This a game thread, right?
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Dec 18, 2009 9:15 PM PST up reply actions
Hey its my face...dont be Horseist!
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by BritWarriorGSW on Dec 18, 2009 9:16 PM PST up reply actions
ok. morrow's back into his slump
that was morrow’s shot, too
AR bad block/goal tend
it was going to miss
Hop on the bandwagon quick!it's leaving.
next stop,3qc.
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Dec 18, 2009 9:16 PM PST reply actions
Hey, I should be able to use my ticket for a transfer!
No fair trying to charge me again.
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3QC at it's finest!
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LMAO....+1000
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by BritWarriorGSW on Dec 18, 2009 9:20 PM PST up reply actions
Curry liking the ESPN spotlight
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It hurts to watch the Warriors gets outrebounded...
Especially when you know you have 3 big bodies out.
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Dec 18, 2009 9:20 PM PST reply actions
+/- fun
CJ is the best +/- so far at +10, radman at +7. Everyone else is in the -.
that's why +/- shouldn't be taken too seriously
CJ and radman were both in that 2nd qtr run that got us back into the game. That was also against their bench.
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 18, 2009 9:21 PM PST up reply actions
great pass AR
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Tafkasam is still not impressed.
Randolph’s assist:turnover ratio is three times better than Amare’s.
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Dec 18, 2009 9:23 PM PST up reply actions
CSN late to get back to the game
or mistimed because of the ESPN broadcast
Randolph playin like a little guy.
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Dec 18, 2009 9:23 PM PST reply actions
Thank goodness the defender didn't just sit on his left hand
If you’re dumb enough to go for a fake to the right, you deserve to get schooled.
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AR sick
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Arenas owning Ellis
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i think it was because the Warriors couldn't offer as much money to Gilbert
because of some rule about 2nd round picks back then
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 18, 2009 9:25 PM PST up reply actions
It was a weird technicality.
The Warriors tried to keep him.
They’ve since fixed the technicality.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 18, 2009 9:25 PM PST up reply actions
Monta's playing alot in the post
dunno how i feel about it.
This game has a Houston/Orlando like feel to it..
Horrible memories
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Monta needs some lessons from Hakeem Olajawon on how to post!
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Dec 18, 2009 9:25 PM PST reply actions
I was channeling Rocky…
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Dec 18, 2009 9:28 PM PST up reply actions
Why does Monta not go to the basket????????????????????????????????????
Anyone have any idea? this boggles my mind to why he gets braindead and just stops, i dont believe it has naything to do with fatigue, what is it????
trying new things, perhaps
perhaps if he keeps driving to the basket, then everyone knows and keys on him
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 18, 2009 9:28 PM PST up reply actions
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Randolph on the iso, making Haywood look slow. I got a feeling Hunter’s done for the night
i don’t agree w/ him. that was a tough running hook and Haywood’s blown by AR at least 3 or 4 times.
by homer simpson on Dec 18, 2009 9:29 PM PST up reply actions
i agree with you
if we had more bigs, AR would be pulled for someone who can stop haywood
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 18, 2009 9:30 PM PST up reply actions
i just blinked
how did haywood get a clean drive to the lane?
Monta almost had a steal, somehow ended up in his hands
by Badly Browned on Dec 18, 2009 9:29 PM PST up reply actions
Good, Haywoods off lol
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Too many turnovers... I count this is a 3QC..
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Is it coaching?
Why do we consistently come out of the half poorly? Obviously the other teams will make adjustments, but we never seem to be able to make adjustments ourselves…..
that's because Monta missed most of his shots
and Arenas was unguardable. otherwise, we did better than most 3rd Q
Far out Ellis...
At least shoot it.
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i think it looks like the Warriors got confused on the play
monta almost ran into radman there. I see monta talking to radman afterwards.
may i ask, why do Monta always get to handle the ball on the last possession?
AND, why don’t the coach call a time out for the last play?
excuse me, but last I've check
this is a NBA game. then again, I think Nellie is coaching. Oh wait, he is.
Only?
And also he takes it in the 4th too.
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 18, 2009 9:35 PM PST up reply actions
Probably to make him happy
Let him know it’s “his team”
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 18, 2009 9:35 PM PST up reply actions
ellis sux on last posessions
Monta- 23ppg 6 apg 4 rpg
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Ammo - 15ppg 3 apg 5rpg
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AR- 19 ppg 9 rpg 2 apg
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Currry- 13ppg 6 apg 4 rpg
+
Beans - 12 ppg 12 rpg
+
Maggs off the Bench =
8th SEED BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that wasn't on monta
i think radman misunderstood the play or something, because monta almost ran into radman
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 18, 2009 9:36 PM PST up reply actions
My God is Radmanovich worthless or what?
He had Arenas cutoff then he moves out of the way to open the sea for him. What’s even more pathetic it’s more than likely going to end up resulting in another loss spoiling the great game of Curry.
I also don’t get why Ellis isn’t attacking the rim the Wizards can’t guard him. The last possession it happens the ball slips, but Ellis should have been driving.
No, Devean George is worthless, Rad is a 10minute guy at best.
by Badly Browned on Dec 18, 2009 9:37 PM PST up reply actions
i dont like monta's body language tonight, driving is his bread and butter
and he is not going to the rim, he looks unsure, WHY?
wow it clear....
we’re trying to trade monta. Nellie is literally shopping him and giving him all the spotlight to trade him
Thats a bunch of garbage
I love how they talk about Ellis’s turnovers when Nash consistently leads the league in turnovers.
Nash also usually leads the league in assists
or is at least up there.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 18, 2009 9:42 PM PST up reply actions
Nelson is drunk every night
this explains nothing
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 18, 2009 9:39 PM PST up reply actions
Radmanovich new to team
not sure how to play basketball. new experience for him in america. americans not understand how he feel.
Were you watching the play?
There was another player underneath him. Rule states you can hang on the rim until that player is out of the way.
AR
Way to be aggressiveeeee nice!
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I DUB AR:
Stealth Jet. or something like that. He comes outta nowhere sometimes.
If Bochy coached the Warriors Bengie Molina would start every game at PG.
Game Over.
Boring game.
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Is the Jackson punking Morrow?
If Bochy coached the Warriors Bengie Molina would start every game at PG.
Saying he was a punk for challenging Reggie to a 3pt contest.
If Bochy coached the Warriors Bengie Molina would start every game at PG.
by cybermaldonado on Dec 18, 2009 9:43 PM PST up reply actions
My interpretation anyway.
If Bochy coached the Warriors Bengie Molina would start every game at PG.
by cybermaldonado on Dec 18, 2009 9:44 PM PST up reply actions
He was talking about how Morrow challenged Miller to a shooting contest
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 18, 2009 9:45 PM PST up reply actions
morrow would have beaten him 2 weeks ago
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 18, 2009 9:46 PM PST up reply actions
Exactly. And they weren’t talking trash 2 weeks ago. They wait till he’s down.
If Bochy coached the Warriors Bengie Molina would start every game at PG.
by cybermaldonado on Dec 18, 2009 9:47 PM PST up reply actions
PUUHHLEASE
I want the best for Morrow and am a huge fan but Miller would light his ass up! Miller makes 3s in his sleep – covered or not. AR may be great down the road but unless you hit the three on the regular and demand the ball and take more than 3 shots in 35 minutes(like spurs game) then not even close!
Its not just about a great shot and perfect from, its about character and heart and desire!
Pretty classy dissing a guy for missing shots after a death in the family JAckson.
If Bochy coached the Warriors Bengie Molina would start every game at PG.
by cybermaldonado on Dec 18, 2009 9:43 PM PST up reply actions
I love how people stops supporting when we're struggling.
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Dec 18, 2009 9:43 PM PST reply actions
What the heck
You continue to see why the Warriors are pathetic. Caron Butler is on fire. Don’t leave Morrow on him one on one! As soon as Butler gets the ball double team him! It’s not that hard of a concept!
Ugly... Just ugly
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Who?
Jeff Van Gundy and the rest of the crew. The Warriors deserve the hate. The Warriors are the most pathetic franchises in all major sports.
Even more pathetic then the Detroit Lions!
Who let this guy back in?
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by BritWarriorGSW on Dec 18, 2009 9:47 PM PST up reply actions
another jamison airball
shoulder must still be bothering him
It's our usual lock-down defense...
OBVIOUSLY!!
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go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket
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lol wtf
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We are lucky they aren't getting passed +12
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 18, 2009 9:50 PM PST reply actions
In a way
I was being positive haha.
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 18, 2009 9:51 PM PST up reply actions
Doesn’t help when we keep getting out rebounded by double digits.
by Badly Browned on Dec 18, 2009 9:52 PM PST up reply actions
PICK UP THE DARN BALL
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THANKS CURRY
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monta great defense
maggette knows how to FINISH a fast break
go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket
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Ellis totally out of position there, only Curry’s 2 TO surprisingly.
by Badly Browned on Dec 18, 2009 9:56 PM PST up reply actions
coaches coach
but players play – dubs need to man up
i was about to post NELLIE PUT IN A CENTER
THEENNNN I realized
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS?
SERIOUSLY, THIS IS PATHETIC
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Typical Nelson coached 4th quarter
3 point guards, no defense, no rebounding. yada, yada, yada…
Again we see plays that have to be made that are not
Randolph has to get to the rebound on Curry’s three. That’s what separate the good teams from the bad teams.
stupidest team in the whole league, not even close, I love em, but
they are just airheads who just go blank during the game, i have never seen this before
I guess you've never watched the Warriors before.
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Dec 18, 2009 9:57 PM PST up reply actions
Currys three could have brought the lead to 2
But no, he misses and now we’re down by friggen 9
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Sign Baron Davis to a 4th quarter contract..
We need someone late in games.
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you know what they need to do, but they dont do....................
go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket Go to the basket we are such a stupit team foe not going to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket go to the basket
PLEASE STOP SPAMMING
we heard you the first time
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 18, 2009 9:59 PM PST up reply actions
I just wanted people to get my point bratha! did you get it
or do you need me to explain again??, cuse i can………..
by ineemoney21 on Dec 18, 2009 10:03 PM PST up reply actions
you can if you want to be an annoyance to everyone else here
other, stop it
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 18, 2009 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
yes sir, i dont want to be the ONLY annoying one here,
cause we are not used to that at all huh?
by ineemoney21 on Dec 18, 2009 10:06 PM PST up reply actions
Until he missed those 2 FT just now. lol
If Bochy coached the Warriors Bengie Molina would start every game at PG.
by cybermaldonado on Dec 18, 2009 10:02 PM PST up reply actions
Not what we have 2.1 seconds left.
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 18, 2009 10:02 PM PST up reply actions
FUUUUUUUUUU%^#%^#^%^#^#^#$^#^K!
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That was great recovery defense by AR a minute ago
He is good at that. It’s playing D in front of his man he’s weak at.
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The one weakness for Ellis
Free throws! With the way he can get contact and get to the line he should be at least an 83-85 percent free throw shooter.
These Sprite Slam Dunk commercials
Sure does makes me want a 7-Up
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 18, 2009 10:04 PM PST reply actions
CJ nice rebounding effort
please make your FTs!
good effort cjz
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maggette taking a bad shot there
low % shot
We are the most pathetic team in the 4th
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It's just passed 5pm here...
I have a party to go to tonight and I’mma be pissed off all night now ::::
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when is the last time Curry has even taken a shot
for whatever reason, he seems to go long stretches without one
by randolphforpresident on Dec 18, 2009 10:09 PM PST reply actions
I mean
Can the PG/PG/PG/SF/SF lineup ever work? What a joke.
Yeah that's smart..
Put in Morrow for three point shooting then have Ellis chuck up a three… I’m sure that was the game plan
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Randolph had the shot that time
should not have passed
morrow, YES, 3 pt
hope that gets him out of the slump
We've had more injuries this year than last...
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by WarriorForLife on Dec 18, 2009 10:13 PM PST up reply actions
That;s because we had Jackson who could hit some big shots....
Now we have no closer, no big guys (injuries)….
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past tense?
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Dec 18, 2009 10:15 PM PST up reply actions
game over
nice try, Warriors, no experience, no bigs, no win
you don't think the bigs plays the biggest factor? I would be so tired
of second chance points all the time.
Cause this game is on ESPN and is national, I bet that all these media fools
that never watch the warriors are going to write how curry is the man on the warriors, ellis is his “sidekick” (marc jackson already said that earlier) and curry is a better shooter than morrow, what fools they are.
yeah, that's national writers for you
they take one game, or they take the stats only, and write up stories about it
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 18, 2009 10:18 PM PST up reply actions
This loss is on Stephen Curry
he can’t do anything right and hasn’t lived up to his draft position at all.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 18, 2009 10:16 PM PST reply actions
lol wtf
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you forgot “omg”
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Dec 18, 2009 10:18 PM PST up reply actions
Curry was actually better today
if anything, it’s on AR. he had some lazy passes. (at the top of the key and passing to the small guard) and not driving to the basketball. and those jumpers!
then again, everyone had problems tonight.
Curry was fantastic
I was being sarcastic, and mocking a specific user.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 18, 2009 10:22 PM PST up reply actions
despite curry's great night
it surprised me to see that monta outscored curry, monta 30, curry 27
I think I'd take Curry's statline over Monta's
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 18, 2009 10:18 PM PST up reply actions
i still can't believe Monta has 8 turnovers
i don’t remember any of them.
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 18, 2009 10:19 PM PST up reply actions
Curry, easily.
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AR was actually good tonight
that one move against haywood was pretty good. His D was ok. We just need more body in there. Arenas and Butler killed us.
yeah, and i think it helped that he was further out of the paint than most centers on that move
gave AR more room to work with.
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 18, 2009 10:22 PM PST up reply actions
too bad
it seems that the plan was for him to take those “free” perimeter shots from the top of the key. I think given the chance he can be effective against slower PF of SF close to the basket facing up not back to the basket.
yeah, but remember, that only happened once
the other times, his inside shots fell short, some looked forced or were tough and had no chance of going in. Still got work to do as of right now.
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 18, 2009 10:26 PM PST up reply actions
Randolphs got post moves
And handles.. He just needs some muscle to be able to use those moves consistently against bigger bodies.
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The only qtr we won was the 2nd qtr
and that’s because they had their bench in there
So how about that Chris Paul?
30 points, 19 assists, 9 rebounds
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 18, 2009 10:30 PM PST reply actions
I hope this ends all those complaints about Randolph not starting
Hunter started, but only played 8 minutes. Nellie will play the guy that best gives him a chance to win.
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