A treatise on Corey Maggette in two parts

efficiency typically goes down when you take a lot.

There is no such general relationship in order to call it ‘typical’. Efficiency declines for some, but increases for others with more attempts. In most cases though, it’s doesn’t change that much.

What’s next? Somebody brings up D. George’s 100% 3 point shooting and shows his PER 48 and proclaims him the next MJ?

see: trading fan favorite after our first playoff appearance EVER in ownership to save money

I don’t think this supports your point. We’ve discussed this at length, obviously, no need to get into it again, but as someone who supports that trade, I just want to point out that in my view, it was a good trade without taking any luxury tax implications into account…

And it’s not a difficult theory conceptualize, especially if you’re a GM. Anyone with half a brain should understand the big money needs to be spent on cornerstones, building blocks; whatever you want to call them and you put “fillers” (which Maggette clearly fall under) around them. Not vice versa. This is what seems to perpetually haunt the warriors. They sign good "fillers" / "complementary players prematurely and subsequently expect them to over perform.

You need elite all star to have a championship team in this league. There seems only two ways to get one. 1) Trade, 2) draft. The former appears to be more common than the later. See, Tim Duncan, Chris Paul, Kobe, Dirk, D Will, etc. Most of these elite all stars still play for the same team that drafted them. There are a couple of instances when teams where able to acquire the talent via trade, i.e. Detroit in their day but, for the most part the higher ratio of successful ascension in the league is via the draft. We conceptualize trades all over this site until we are brain dead but as thought provoking as it is, it’s highly unlikely our franchise drastically improves (to title contenders) via a trade.

Once a team has their "franchise guy", aka elite all star, the objective is to fit the right guys around him. If your all star is not a three point shooter it may make sense to pay a guy like Morrow more than he’s actually worth (as an example) to BALANCE a team. Maggette was clearly not the "all star" or right filler for this team. Here again, the Warriors did it backwards.

For years they mixed young talent with old veterans at an attempt to compete, but that doesn’t work, didn’t work, and will never work, unless your young talented players are elite all stars. Adding decent/ average or even above average vets actually hurts the progression of the team. So all these years we’ve had 30 something win seasons really just prevent us form getting higher draft picks and (over a long period of time, say the ownership of Cohan) decreased our chances of landing the Elite All Atar we’ve desperately needed. As an owner, a decision to tank rather than live in denial and accept that you are going to have a terrible season means less ticket sales and does hit Cohan in his wallet. But living in denial and trying to over sale us fans on "fools gold" or the inferior product the Warriors FO has compiled is very penny wise pound foolish. Maybe Cohan can argue NPV but I highly disagree with that mentality and would argue over time the hypothetical increase in the value of a winning team would vastly out way NPV of any fractional, albeit compounding values.

That being said, I hope to see Randolph get all PT he can get. We’ll know better who is he as a player or trade asset and although we may lose games by mental lapse or inexperience, that would be best for this team. I’d love to see Bosh in a Warrior jersey but It’s almost as likely as landing the #1 pick in the NBA lottery from the 10th to 14th position.

In summary yes, this was a big rant but, extending Steven Jackson, and signing Maggette (both filler type players) was foolish, and devastating to the long term success of this team and a selfish decision by Cohan. The FO should be accountable, and ultimately fired for these decision. I’m looking at you Rowell. Stand up Cohan and take a bow.

One of the biggest problems with the Maggette signing is it just didn’t make any sense from a timeline standpoint.

That, I certainly agree with… in fact, I’d call that the biggest problem with the signing. But the criticism most often leveled against the signing is that Corey Maggette isn’t worth anything near $50 million. I’m just pointing out that that criticism tends to be overblown. Corey Maggette’s not worth $50 million, but he’s probably worth $40 million. And if we’d been able to sign him for that, he’d probably be tradeable enough so that it would have been a decent value signing, if an oddly timed one.

And I see his logic… he saw maggette as a super efficient scorer. He also was 1 of the biggest backers of Monta as a PG. Nellie was a big fan of harrington has a mismatch 4 (I recall he said harrington was his most disappointing player because he thought he could be a star like dirk and he couldn’t get it out of him…). You gotta realize we weren’t THAT young before the signing. Jack was 30, harrington was 28, we had turiaf. biedrins and Monta ere young but also proven NBA starters. I see what he saw in maggette to add to monta, jack, and harrington (and AB). I think he thought the addition of maggette + developement of guys like Monta, AB, Buike, BW (who he loved) could get us into playoffs. Can’t say i agree w/ it, but then again he was also off his best year of his career (he hit 38% 3s!?)….

Sure it was an overpay and now we live w/ it. But Mullin’s philosophy has always been overpay to make your players happy and team attractive. It’s not a BAD philosophy when you’re not an attractive club to the league as a whole.

Maggs has been shooting the ball better, scoring more efficiently, and rebounding better than he has for most if not all of his career. He hasn’t regressed significantly in any area as a result either. I have noticed better, albeit not great, defensive effort and results from him. Problem is that he should not be the team’s PF or C, and he’s played those parts more often than he’s played the 2/3 that he’s more suited for. Part of that is injuries. Part of that is poor design by the coaching staff.