60 Minutes Interview w/ ex-NBA referee Tim Donaghy- Must See Hoops TV
This Sunday's 60 Minutes episode on CBS featured a long interview with NBA-banned and disgraced referee Tim Donaghy. As you would expect from a 60 Minutes interview it's extremely high quality and incredibly intriguing. Particularly striking was the bit about the refs conspiring against Allen Iverson.
The entire video segment after the jump.
Part 1
Part II
Web Extra
Special Treatment- Former NBA player Doug Christie had to be careful when he played against Kobe Bryant!
Thanks to our man Peter Bean for the heads up on SBNation.com's NBA section (seriously bookmark and check it on the regular).
Let's put aside Donaghy's personal drama and broaden the scope here (not that his story isn't pretty jaw dropping). Whether it's right or not there's no other major sports officiating that gets the widespread and constant censure that the NBA does. Part of me is willing to give NBA refs the benefit of the doubt. It's a fast paced game and to put it simply- refin' ain't easy. What looks so obvious in the replays isn't always obvious in real time.
But then part of me just can't forget that Game 6 of the 2002 Western Conference Finals between the LA Lakers and Sacramento Kings. There's just something funny about that game that will always leave a funny trace in my memory. Even Ralph Nader thought so. Come to think of it Game 7 of that series felt a little funny too.
What are your thoughts on officiating the NBA? Is it unfairly getting a bad rap? Or is there something shady happening around the association beyond just Donaghy?
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Meh. Conspiracy Theories.
It’s always been like this, generally, the premier teams and players get their calls, the less known organizations and players do not. Goes for all professional team sports. Conspiring against teams? Naw. Conspiring for teams? Hell no.
It’s just the way it goes ranging from Jerry Rices catch in the 98 Wild Card Game to the “Brady Tuck Rule” to Michael Jordan’s push on Bryon Russell in the 98 Finals, Maradonas “Hand of God”, and countless more. Without drama from officiating crews, there will be alot less drama in sports, no drama means less excitement.
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Maybe the refs are just like us.
They hate Chris Cohan.
by samuraaaaiiiiiii on Dec 7, 2009 12:57 AM PST reply actions
well
that explains a lot.
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by 24k state fan since 87 on Dec 7, 2009 1:25 AM PST up reply actions
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wonder how the NBA would go if it was played playground style no refs just call your own foul?
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by 24k state fan since 87 on Dec 7, 2009 1:26 AM PST reply actions
lol
corey is always terrible
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by 24k state fan since 87 on Dec 7, 2009 5:03 AM PST up reply actions
The game would never end
Kobe: Foul.
Duncan: Foul on me? No way!
Kobe: Yes way!
Duncan: No way!
Kobe: Yes way!
Duncan: No way!
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i used to play in a lot of playground style games and if you ever have then you know call your own foul doesnt work…LOL…The game usually stops for at least 5-10 minutes every few times down the court while 2 guys argue about a foul that usually didnt happen….Now times that by 10 with these NBA players and egos…would be great T.V. though
Yeah that's how people play these days at the courts...
You learn to shut up and just let them have their foul.
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Dec 7, 2009 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
problem
i actually mostly see are violations like traveling, or goal tending and out of bounds. but i do get what your saying with the 5-10 min but hey at least if they feel like they got fouled there would be a foul, and I think with NBA players it would even out because they will notice that one player is calling shady fouls than than that shady player will get attacked back and get fouled. I think the game would be more fair in the long run. This does not work in the playground because if i remember their are no foul outs in street ball.
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by 24k state fan since 87 on Dec 7, 2009 2:31 PM PST up reply actions
Corey Maggette will suffer lots of injuries...
because there are no hard fouls now:]
They can do whatever they want to him and it’ll just be a normal foul.
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Dec 7, 2009 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
I have to say....
I dont know if it is shady…..but the officiating just seems to have gotten progressively worse in the last couple of years? anyone else feel this?
They seem to be making some TERRIBLE calls and when they clearly get a call hopelessly wrong near the end of a critical game, and pretty much the entire arena is up in arms about it….THAT is when they should go to the video and double check it… there is too much at stake for many teams now to let crap ref decisions affect games at critical moments.
If they get it wrong…they should be hand in the air and say….sorry ….we got it wrong….other team has the ball/reverse the point/call the foul/whatever…. the technology is there….USE IT MORE! Or do as many sports do now and have a 4th official linked to the main official on the court via radio and if the 4th see’s something he does not like, like an elbow thrown or something he can call stop to the play and they can deal with it..
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That would definatley help correct the obvious blown calls, as well as possesion calls that the refs on the floor seem to be clueless about the majority of the time.
I can’t see the NBA creating a system that allows the refs to stop the game and check replay on every possesion, but it wouldn’t hurt having the extra set of eyes glued to a monitor to make sure that more calls are made correctly.
Conspiracy theory time
Now that I think about it, remember how crappy the refs were in our playoff Game 2 vs the Mavs? In that game, both Baron Davis and Stephen Jackson ended up getting ejected after being frustrated with the foul calls. The Warriors eventually lost that game and the series got tied 1-1.
Makes you wonder now if the refs got a memo to tighten up the calls against the Warriors so that the 67 win Mavericks don’t fall into an embarrassing 0-2 hole.
I'm not convinced the refs conspire against specific teams...
But it’s obvious they follow certain guidelines and won’t necessarily make the same call on two identical plays. For example, when the home team is losing, they are way more likely to get calls (not just fouls) in their favor.
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P.Diddy said it best…“Its all about the Benjamins baby”! Thats it and thats all….The teams that have the most star players and make the most money get the calls and the teams like the Warriors dont. How many times has Monta Ellis drove to the bucket and gotten hammered with no call?? But yo breath and Kobe and Lebron and its an and one every time…Dont kid yourself people cause we all know its all about the money. Nobody except us Warriors fans wants to see the Warriors (or any other low market team) in the playoffs over a bigger market team. Just how it is. Thats why the “WE BELIEVE” team and year was so great because we broke the mold! We werent suppose to be and then to beat the #1 seed that year cant get any better than that!…
3 Things
1) The Warriors are indeed a big market team which makes Cohan’s streak of incompetence all that more impressive (or maybe I’m looking for the opposite word).
2) The Warriors were 3rd in the league in foul calls drawn and 2nd in the league in free throw’s attempted last season. So far this year they’re about middle of the pack in getting to the line and 4th for fouls drawn. To say the Warriors aren’t getting any respect from refs in general is ignoring the numbers.
3) The Warriors suck-ness has ZERO to do with NBA officiating.
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by Atma Brother ONE on Dec 7, 2009 8:58 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
100% true
I do think that the refs get tired of calling foul, after foul, after foul though because it slows the game down too much and turns the game into something else entirely.
Monta, Kobe, whoever cannot get every call they want. It would ruin the game, especially in the 4th quarter.
One call I would deem questionable this year is Watsons foul against Brooks at the end of the game. There was no foul there in my opinion, but the ref may have been expecting a foul even if he wasnt sure one actually occurred. This is an example of bias against a team and is something the NBA needs to get rid of.
How many times do you see a call against a player who is new/newish to the NBA that would not be a foul against a veteran?!
by warriorsvictim on Dec 7, 2009 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
One call I would deem questionable this year is Watsons foul against Brooks at the end of the game. There was no foul there in my opinion, but the ref may have been expecting a foul even if he wasnt sure one actually occurred. This is an example of bias against a team and is something the NBA needs to get rid of.
Maybe they pull out an Iverson towards Watson. I wonder if Watson threaten one of their co-ref. But Kidding aside if it was Kobe or Lebron or even Fisher challenge Brooks they wont call that a foul just to decide the outcome of the game. The Rockets won we got a couple of bad calls towards the end. Do I smell fix here.
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That's wrong
Warriors are 18th in the league in Free throw ratio and were 25th last year.
It’s not how many but when the fouls are called that can change a game.
I don’t think there is a conspiracy against the Warriors, we fall way under the radar and Watson did foul Brooks at the end of the game so that’s only ourselves to blame.
That being said if they were going to rig games it would be far and few between. Like calling fouls more against the Lakers on national TV when they are playing a top tear team just to keep the score close and people interested. Watching the commercials all the way through instead of tuning out a 30 point blowout, things of that nature.
Is this in fact happening? Hard to tell, but sense there is such a large number of fans that think so or at least wouldn’t put it past Stern, there needs to be an independent panel of people not associated with the NBA looking at live games and game tapes just to prove or disprove it. (Like Bigfoot).
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Warriors vs Wizards
wasn’t donaghy involved in the call that gave nellie a T AFTER time ran out, so a game the W’s won, they lost AFTER time ran out.
can’t really remember so i’m actually asking…
Found that game
play-by-play
NBA Official Defends Referees
It was one of these 3 refs: Jason Phillips, Derrick Stafford, Tony Brothers. Based on that article, I think it was Brothers who T’ed up Nellie.
The Warriors were up by two. The refs gave Gilbert Arenas a foul with 0.1 seconds to go. Nelson got upset, got a T.
So with 0.1 seconds, Arenas shot and made the T, then shot and made both FTs to basically win the game.
And then we went on our 16-5 run.
Oh THAT game
Recap: Warriors 106, Wizards 107 – Yo Mama… (March 4, 2007)
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by Atma Brother ONE on Dec 7, 2009 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks for posting this Atma...
IMO this is something that isn’t discussed enough. None of us want to have to question the integrity of the game we love. We spend way to much time following this sport to believe that the NBA hardwood is not a level playing field. It’s for that reason that I try not to think about this aspect of the game much. I understand and live with the fact that in this league the “stars”, the players chosen by the league as the ambassadors of the game which are heavily invested in (in the form of millions and millions of advertising dollars), they just don’t play by the same rules as everyone else. It’s accepted, but is it right? I think that “star treatment” is probably the most widely accepted corruption in sports. Most of us seem to live with it, only complaining when it costs our team a win.
But is that just the beginning? How far does the league go to influence the game? Was that Kings v Lakers series truly manipulated by the refs due to a league directive? None of us can be sure.
Do refs not only allow their bias to effect their performance, but embrace and encourage unfair treatment of certain players? Again, it’s really hard to say.
As much as we’d like to continue to think of the NBA as a distraction from the real world, we have to realize that the NBA is big business, and big business is rarely devoid of corruption. We can only hope that someone somewhere (whether it be in the FBI, or in the commissioner’s office) is working to keep the highest level of basketball competition as pure as possible. But let’s be honest, I just don’t see a crusader on the horizon willing to make the integrity of the NBA his life’s cause. More likely, business men will continue to act in their own financial best interest.
Now as for the interview, I actually found Donaghy’s story to be rather compelling. He seemed to take responsibility for his choices, and honestly I didn’t find his claims against the league and against his fellow officials all that outlandish. It seems that he found a way to profit off of human nature. He identified the biases of his coworkers and he capitalized on them. I’ll take it with a grain of salt considering he wrote a book which he is now trying to sell, but I think that his claims do seem plausible.
Now that I’ve tossed in my two cents I’ll happily put the blinders back on and try to ignore this aspect of the game. I enjoy watching basketball too much to let this invade my consciousness as a fan.
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by olympicmike on Dec 7, 2009 1:05 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Actually...
for 60 minutes standards, I thought the interview was pretty weak. True, Donaghy’s story sort of tells itself but I thought the interviewer could have dug a lot deeper into how many other ref’s do the same thing, more on how the Mob got involved, and more about his gambling in general. Its hard to believe he just did this in a vacuum whether as a gambling addict or ref. I think there has to be a lot more to this story and the interviewer seemed content to just ask unimaginitive questions.
I also find it frustrating that the NBA hasn’t been more public in its condmenation of what happened, and with the results of its investigation into it. It makes me think they just wanted to bury it as fast as possible. Its hard to believe that Donaghy was acting alone, or that he’s the only one. I also don’t like that the NBA has basically dismissed his claims that other ref’s deliberately work to favor certain teams actually winning games. Favoring certain players is one thing, and it may or may not really affect the outcome of games. But Ref’s conspiring to actually favor a win by certain teams is something totally different and the NBA should be out front and aggressive in its efforts to eliminate this behavior.

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