RECAP: Warriors 88, Thunder 104 - More of the Same.
by Hash on Dec 7, 2009 10:10 PM PST
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PrintWhat a depressing display. This Warriors team is getting tougher and tougher to watch. Every time they show us a glimmer of hope in one form or another, they offset it by 2 debilitating actions. There is no two ways about it; we are moving backwards. Our players can't stay healthy, what's left of them can't string plays together; we are giving ourselves no chance to form any sort of team cohesiveness.
With the way the Thunder played tonight, they shouldn't have beaten us. They came out with a pretty poor game by most standards, yet they beat us by 16 points? Things are upside down in the world of the Warriors. Up. Side. Down.
Warriors Web: Collapsed after Maggette's ejection
Polling GSoM: Will the Golden State Warriors lead the league in turnovers this season?
Freakin' wingspan of a pterodactyl on this guy...
Let's make this short and sweet. Hit the jump and let's take a look at some of the factors that led to another disappointing loss.
I have to say, the first half of this game really wasn't that bad. Granted, I might be jaded because the stink of the second half is still in my notsrils, but in the beginning the Warriors did a pretty solid job on the defensive end. This is something we simply don't see from this team, so it was refreshing to see our boys in the paint, knocking the ball lose and actually guarding jumpers. In the first quarter alone, the Warriors forced 9 turnovers and, despite a bucketful of turnovers ourselves, managed to close out the quarter up one point.
As we made our way into the second; that's when things really started to turn ugly. Amazingly enough, the strong D still maintained, but our offense melted away into the all too familiar one on one stop and pop shots. With our lethargic offense taking center stage, the Thunder tore off on a 14-0 run.
Our improved defense was the classic example of the Warriors putting something good on the table in exchange for 10 things bad. Today, where our defensive cylinders were firing, the Warriors gave up a ridiculous amount of points off of turnovers and allowing the Thunder to grab offensive boards. It was only by the good graces of their poor shooting that we ended the half down by only 1.
The third and fourth quarters? Man, I don't even want to talk about them. That might have been the Warriors at their worst (offensively speaking at least). It literally got to the point where Monta and, to a lesser degree Curry were the only two who could seem to score buckets. There were enough bricks from the Warriors in these two quarters to build a 3 story house. Add to that equation Maggs getting himself ejected for no reason and we ended up in the worst possible position in this game.
You think I'm talking about losing by 16, don't you? No. I'm talking about putting in Devean George. If that's not a white flag, I don't know what is...
If not Ellis, then who? While his game wasn't it's finest, there's no denying that Ellis was the only one who got things moving on an offensive side. And trust me, I do have conflicts about doling out the WW to someone who got 9 turnovers. So I'll at least tip my hat to Curry for dropping in a solid 22.
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Is Curry hurt?
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No comment on the officiating Hash?
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From MT2
Curry landed hard on his left elbow after a layup late in the game. He played the final seconds favoring his left arm but afterward said his left elbow, which was iced, will be sore but fine.
Curry out for the rest of the season!
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Dec 7, 2009 10:17 PM PST reply actions
Don't joke like that...
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
I agree he shouldn't joke like that...
But I still gotta admit it was pretty funny. After the initial 0.3 second shock.
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 9, 2009 9:13 AM PST up reply actions
There was a game today?!
I just pulled a 8am-9:45pm shift… I hate work
Beyond Golden State of Design... and than some!
http://www.tonypsd.blogspot.com/
I missed the game too.
Got home at 7:45pm. Had to do OT and i usually get home around 5pm.
Sucked. but i was able to listen to some of the game on the radio.
Tough loss to “hear” but I think it woulda been easier to watch if we had Anthony Morrow.
As BritWarrior said, why couldn’t cohan get a private jet for Morrow? A-mo shouldn’t have had to deal with flight delays.
Doesn’t he realize Morrow is an important part of the team? Especially with this team that is undermanned?
oh well moving on. go warriors still.
Romes Mac Mojous
by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Dec 8, 2009 9:20 AM PST up reply actions
Like Randolph the season
The warriors have sadly been putting the “down” in “upside down”
not the “upside”…
can't find anything on mags ejection
what was it about? justified? he’s been getting the iverson treatment lately.
"We're Menudo," -BB
Two Technicals
Randolph made a block on a guy and then landed on him…the call went against the Warriors and Maggette had a few choice words of disagreement with the officiating chaps….
ERGO….early shower time…the ref’ing was yet again disgustingly bad in this game….
GSOM Blog Beast!
by BritWarriorGSW on Dec 8, 2009 3:08 AM PST up reply actions
Maggette was called for a blocking foul. The Thunder replay showed that Maggette indeed hip checked him (Westbrook?).
by homer simpson on Dec 8, 2009 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
Maybe our
officials watch too much 60 minutes, and read the book Personal Foul
Win Or Lose Warriors For Life.........
I don't get all of the complaining about Ellis in this game.
He was ballhogging it, yes….but who else was stepping up to score? Mikki Moore is good for 10 Points a game maximum, Radmanovic was consistently bricking open shots, C.J. Watson was smothered by Sefolosha, and Maggette and Curry both got in their scores. Maggette had less than usual because of his unceremonial departure, and Curry is someone who creates for himself. Look, I’m not usually a Monta defender….I’d be happy to see him leave the team. But he was pretty much the only thing the Warriors had going tonight besides Curry and Maggette. And when Maggette leaves, you’re pretty much left with two people the Thunder know they have to guard, so they guard them well. And 10 of Curry’s points came in 4th quarter garbage time.
Monta also defended Durant extremely well. Durant was held to 10 points before Corey Maggette got fouled, and both Green and Westbrook were outscoring him at the time. He eventually racked up a lot of points near the end, when Monta was tired, on a bunch of fast-break dunks. I’m rambling a bit, but the point is, if Monta Ellis didn’t play in this game, it would have been over in 5 minutes
You know what I think? MONTA ELLIS DID GREAT UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES.
There, I said it. I can’t believe it, but I did.
Tony.psd = Da Man
Manger of Welcome to Loud City
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Were we watching the same game??
Monta Ellis did great under the circumstances?? Are what circumstances was that? Was he on the floor by himself or something?? When Monta learns to pass the ball when the lane is crowded and 3-4 people are trying to guard him then and only then will the Warriors be a better team and will Monta Ellis become a complete player…Driving into 2-3 defenders and turning the ball over 9 times is not gonna get it done at any level of basketball. You have to trust your teamates to win in the NBA….
God Willing...
The only bother me about Monta
is when he try to finish a quarter he always try to drive to basket and usually end up with a turnover or brick a layup because he was doing a 1 on 5. Why don’t he try to drive and kick and trust his team mate to make the final shot of any quarter.
Win Or Lose Warriors For Life.........
We did do a horrible job at the end of every quarter
We got it off in time for a 2 for 1 situation, but when you miss both opportunities, it doesn’t really matter.
Tony.psd = Da Man
Manger of Welcome to Loud City
#1 Warriors, Thunder, and Adonal Foyle Fan
The Circumstances being
That none of his team was helping out on offense, and that as a result, he had no one to pass to.
Tony.psd = Da Man
Manger of Welcome to Loud City
#1 Warriors, Thunder, and Adonal Foyle Fan
You know what I think? MONTA ELLIS DID GREAT UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES.
Yes he did, having to deal with being the focus of the defense is not easy. In fact the whole team and coach Smart did great considering the injuries and the players available.We are losing because we should lose now, when everyone is healthy and gets some time together we’ll win plenty. I’m also impressed by the way Curr-bury has handled the pressure of being put into the spotlight as a rookie and being forced to play due to injuries. These guys might not be winning games but they are earning respect .
Hey Z, must be great when the warriors come to town, you win no matter which team wins?
Standing on the moon
Where talk is cheap and vision true
Standing on the moon
But I would rather be with you
Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky
by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 8, 2009 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
Monta is the least of this team's problems right now
He’s the only guy the other team is worried about it. Definitely needs to be thinking pass more when he drives it though. I think it would go a long way to cutting down on the turnovers which is a must.
His defense on Durant was impressive though. Would love to see Durant’s numbers from last night when Monta was on him. Anyone know where you can find that sort of thing?
Harden abused Curry.
I was surprised how unimpressive Westbrook was last night.
Westbrook’s foul on Curry was impressive….He somehow made the refs not call it a foul…
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
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Yeah, the refs were questionable at best tonight.
Tony.psd = Da Man
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Also Agreed
For as well as Curry did, Harden did that much better. Both had impressive numbers, but Harden was the clear victor.
Tony.psd = Da Man
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Word.
These games are a very special time for me, and I love knowing that my team will come out on top no matter what! And I’m also impressed by Curry’s performance.
Tony.psd = Da Man
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PATHETIC EFFORT !!
Pathetic effort,no heart,no pride,no defense.
This team is atrocious ! Games like this make me sad to be a W’s fan !!
Where was Morrow?
Dr. Jeff
What Can you say at this point?...
Another Warriors loss. A bad loss at that. We cant lose to the Thunder by double digits and really say anything good about any player on the floor. Yes Monta Ellis scored his points but he also gave up a lot of points on his 9 turnovers! Is Monta gonna lead the league in turnovers?? Wow just Wow is all I can say…I had to stop watching after the 3rd quarter and I always finish watching the games….Yes it was that bad plus MNF was on but not like i was rooting for either team
God Willing...
No Jumpers for Corey Petition...
I would like to start a petition banning Mr. Corey Maggette from ever shooting a jump shot again unless we are up by at least 15-20pts. Anybody else down to sign it???
No Im serious…
God Willing...
I would
He’s a liability when he doesn’t drive.
The more I see and hear Monta, the more I want him traded!
This guy is a pre-madonna and I have been calling for his trade for the past 1 1/2 years since his infamous lie and cover-up (scooter-gate). He will never be a top player since he cares so little about correcting his playing ailments like – selfishness, poor passing, unforced turnovers, poor attitude, etc… He appears stupid too when he talks, if you call what he regurgitates as talking. It sounds like he needed a few more years in school to refine his speech.
prima donna
just saying
"Hold it. The Schwarzenegger Library?" - John Spartan after hearing Arnold became President, from Demolition Man
by 61st Amendment on Dec 8, 2009 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
… and it really must be said when the poster in question is ripping Monta for “appearing stupid.”
Glass houses, stones, etc.
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Dec 8, 2009 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
Pre-Madonna
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pre-madonna&defid=1201473
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Madonna
Golden State of Mind: Unstoppable Baby!
by Fantasy Junkie on Dec 8, 2009 9:36 PM PST up reply actions
You mean like this guy?
Monta doesn’t rebound nearly well enough. And Rodman was still further out there than Agent Zero in a half time shower.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Dec 8, 2009 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
Curry the diaper dandy
needs to stop chewing on his toddler pacifier too. Curry will be taken more seriously as an NBA man when he does!
Monta shouldn't pass it to anyone
Did anyone watch the game? Vladimir Radmanovic was 1 for 9. Monta easily should have had 10 assists if he had more support. What good comes out of passing it to guys like Mikki Moore on your team. Yea, Mikki Moore, haha. Let’s blame it all on Monta. Elton Brand and Kevin Garnett couldn’t do it by themselves. Why would you expect Monta to do it all by himself?
Elton Brand and Kevin Garnett couldn’t do it by themselves.
Kevin Garnett had 6 seasons in MIN where he averaged 5 assists per game, as a PF. Monta is basically playing PG all game, has the ability to get around any player in this league, and he is at 5 assists per game.
Elton Brand played for the Clippers with Corey Maggette.
by samuraaaaiiiiiii on Dec 8, 2009 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
Why would you expect Monta to do it all by himself?
um. what grade are you in? reread. no one expects him to do it by himself. but that’s exactly what he’s trying to do. yes, Monta is the best player on the team and should get about 20 shots a game – but he’s been getting in that 25-30 shot range and has been averaging 7+ turnovers to boot.
this is not working and will not work – the one man show has been tried by better players than Monta and has failed. part of this is the coaches fault for overplaying Monta. it’s not like he doesn’t have Maggette (who for all his faults is still doing what he does). 7 shots for CJ? Monta ignored him even though he was continually open on the baseline.
just b/c you like an athlete doesn’t mean you have to defend everything he does. don’t be like them Kobe fans that defend his ref whining, flailing arm flops that injure the guy guarding him or his off court behavior.
by homer simpson on Dec 8, 2009 8:21 PM PST up reply actions
Corey
The best thing that happened in the game was Corey getting tossed. When he’s playing like he did last night, he is more useful in the shower than on the court. Immediately prior to the ejection, he threw a lazy bounce pass to Vlad in the post, but since it was such a bad pass, Vlad had to take an extra step away from the basket, and this forced the miss. Then Corey played his usual “defense” where he stood in the lane with hands to his side and slid toward the driving Westbrook, which resulted in the obvious blocking foul. Then he freaked out on the ref. I was the happiest Warriors fan when Fitz screamed “He’s gone!”
Some of you stats guys can quote all the dumb offensive “efficiency” stats you want, but until Corey becomes a better fundamental basketball player and learns how to dribble, pass, shoot, play D, and actually try to score rather than just draw a foul, those stats are useless.
More ejections please, Corey!!
ummm did u watch the game last night
the game was tied before maggette got ejected, and in the 2 minutes after we were down 10 already. I cant say that that was a good thing for the team. Maggette was the only other person besides monta that was actually contributing and had a +/- of -3 with him and -13 without him…im having a hard time seeing the beneficial parts of maggettes ejection
TBH
I was flipping back and forth between MNF and the basketball game, but I saw enough of the usual Corey: The lazy passes, the horrible D (4 fouls in 19 MIN), the usual driving into the lane just to get the call rather than score the basket, the complaining to the refs when the calls don’t all go his way, and so on. Can you say you saw something different?
Just because the Warriors fell apart after the ejection does not mean the two have any correlation. Right before the ejection, Corey was solely and completely responsible for a huge 6 point swing (the bad pass which resulted in Vlad’s miss, then the foul at the other end, then the first technical, and then the second) in the game. That swing turned the game, not Maggette’s absence on the court.
OK
maybe I got too fired up after last nights loss (what with the cursing warning from GSOM and all) – but after sleeping on it I still can’t believe Monta had ANOTHER 9 TO‘s last night. And also, when the game is clearly out of reach and we are emptying the bench or when the offense has no flow – which was like all night – can we give Monta a rest on the end of the bench please. If anytime is a good time to GO BIG it’s then.
John 8:44 -Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.
OH
and what about the disappearance of AR – way to follow up the greatest game of your young NBA career with a lackluster performance. This young man should have seen from the bench that we needed someone with energy to help out with the scoring. It’s not like he was going up against Dwight Howard last night.
John 8:44 -Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.
nd what about the disappearance of AR – way to follow up the greatest game of your young NBA career with a lackluster performance.
He landed wrong on one jump and probably tweaked himself a bit. He’s not the type of guy who will voluntarily sit when hurt so unless the coaches know he’s hurt he’ll just keep playin at a less effective level.
Standing on the moon
Where talk is cheap and vision true
Standing on the moon
But I would rather be with you
Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky
by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 8, 2009 3:32 PM PST reply actions
Tough One
Tough game…. Lets hope we bounce back with a win in New Jersey!
by Dawn Callahan Kettlewell on Dec 8, 2009 10:33 PM PST reply actions
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