Is a win over the New Jersey Nets the start of a three game winning streak?
by Rocky63215 on Dec 7, 2009 11:03 PM PST
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With another loss the Golden State Warriors have dropped to 6-14 on the season. Luckily for the Warriors their next game is against the New Jersey Nets, the worst team in the NBA. I'm hoping that the Warriors can find some confidence and beat down the lowly Nets.
The one thing that the Warriors are going to have to do is rebound the basketball against the Nets. The Warriors did not do a job rebounding against the Oklahoma City Thunder. With Brook Lopez manning the middle for the Nets the Warriors need a big man who defend him.
Instead of Mikki Moore starting at the center position, Chris Hunter should get the start. He's proven that he's the best interior defender that the Warriors have healthy right now. Moore isn't going to be effective at all and will likely pick up two quick fouls.
Another issue for the Warriors is that they need to keep Devin Harris from getting to the rim. He plays a lot like Monta Ellis, but nowhere near the shooter that Ellis is. So, basically the Warriors just need to play back off of him and let him shoot jumperes and make sure to control the glass.
Ellis has to play more in control and stop playing so fast. His turnover numbers are getting ridiculous, although not all of them are his fault. Ellis also need someone to step up and hit some jumpers, that's why I would like to see Hunter in the lineup he has shown the propensity to knock down a 15 foot jumper better than Moore.
I think that Anthony Morrow returning will give a boost to the starting lineup because right now the Warriors are missing their best three point option, so the Nets won't be able to send three defenders after Ellis unless they want to give up a wide open look to the best shooter in the NBA.
Vladimir Ramdanovich needs to start playing more consistently along with Anthony Randolph. Radmanovich against the Thunder shot horribly and missed way too many easy looks, while Randolph didn't seem to put as much of an effort that he did against the Orlando Magic.
One thing that Keith Smart does need to do is not start C.J. Watson at the small forward position. The starting lineup on Wednesday against the Nets should be Stephen Curry, Ellis, Morrow, Radmanovich, and Hunter. Watson should be used though to rest Curry and Ellis.
It's time for the Warriors coaches to stop playing Ellis 48 minutes every night. There are two other guards that can handle the ball for a few minutes while Ellis rests. I get the fact that right now Ellis is the most consistent scorer on the team, but eventually another player is going to step up and start scoring as well.
I would also like to see Curry do a better job of when Ellis drives to get to a corner so he can shoot the three. If Curry becomes deadly from the corner then teams will have to respect Curry as well as Ellis's drive which means it's pick your poison in a layup by Ellis or a three pointer by Curry.
I'm predicting a win for the Warriors over the Nets, but more importantly is looking at the schedule the Warriors could build a little winning streak against some of the weaker Eastern Conference teams. The Warriors then head to Chicago a team that just got blown out by Toronto, Detroit a team struggling with injuries, and Philadelphia who tonight just lost their 10th game in a row.
After those games the Warriors play San Antonio in San Antonio which has been a house of horrors for them, so no win there. Yet, after the San Antonio game the Warriors then play Memphis, which should be a team that the Warriors are able to beat.
Meaning in the next five games the Warriors should be 4-1. That means their record should improve from 6-14 to 10-15.
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As long as Nelly is coach
Smart will use his lineups. That’s how it goes, if Nelly was fired Smart would probably have a different system and sets.
Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "You're a rookie"
on what basis do you form this opinion?
Personally I think this is the chance for Smart to cleverly start to show a little about how he would make certain changes and style of play….so far….I have not seen anything remotely like that.
I ant to see them start:
Ellis
Morrow
Radman
Hunter
Randolph
With Curry and CJ coming off the bench…George to rotate in with Randolph….Magette to come in for Radman… Moore to be used for simply some rest for Hunter….
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by BritWarriorGSW on Dec 8, 2009 3:18 AM PST up reply actions
Good lineup
But I base this off of what coaches do in the NBA. If your not the head coach but your acting as one you tend to run the same offense since your not the coach. Like Avery Johnson, when Nellie was their he probably had to run his offense, but look what happened when Nellie left. I’m just saying that assistants don’t always think the same as the HC.
Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "You're a rookie"
Yeah true...
I am just not yet convinced that Smart is one of those ‘surprise’ HC’s just waiting to come out. dont get me wrong, I think his press conferences are superb, 50 times better than Nellie, but I just dont see him trying any little things yet….but who knows, this trip may do that…
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by BritWarriorGSW on Dec 8, 2009 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
+1
I’m not sure who we could bring in who wouldn’t want to blow up our young core for players they like better. I would be fine if Smart never becomes the HC, but I don’t want anyone who wants to lose Curry or Ellis for a bigger guard or AR.
Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "You're a rookie"
Good Idea...
…unfortunately, we simply lack buckets. Aside from Ellis, there aren’t any CONSISTANT scorers on this team.
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I wouldn’t call Ellis a consistent scorer at this point. More like a consistent shooter (as in, consistently shoots a lot)….
by Missing Barry on Dec 9, 2009 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
Ellis is definitely the most consistent
scorer on the team, when you’re averating over 30 points the last five or six ball game it really says something about the lack of scoring from the Warriors.
It also didn’t help when Monta did get someone who stepped up their scoring, Nelson put him on the bench for most of the fourth quarter.
I LIKE IT !!
Ellis
Morrow
Radman
Hunter
Randolph
Let’s try it,they couldn’t be worse! We’re getting killed on the boards,why not try this??!!
Dr. Jeff
Which Randolph is this?
Spazzy Randolph that picks up fouls and turns the ball over like he’s being paid by the other team or Solid Randolph who rebounds extremely well, plays at least somewhat within himself, and makes a few spectacular plays a game with his athleticism?
If you can get Solid Randolph out there, I’m all for it (and so are Nellie and Smart). But if Randolph is still determined to be a spaz, he’s gonna stay rooted to the bench while you and the national media bash Nellie and Smart for keeping his sorry behind where it belongs: on the bench.
Arguably, he’s only turned the ball over twice in his last 3 games in 60+ minutes, and hasn’t been fouling at an atrocious rate… maybe Spazzy Randolph is on his way out.
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by Dubs fan in Boston on Dec 8, 2009 1:06 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
+1
People forget that AR is still only 20 years old. There have been players in the past that came straight out of high school that had immediate impacts in the NBA (Kobe, KG, Amare, Lebron, Dwight), but you cannot expect every young player either out of high school or one-and-done in college to have immediate impacts. And these expectations on AR to be the next big thing, I feel are detrimental to his development. And besides, if he really was all that, he wouldn’t have dropped down to 14. People have to stop expecting him to be a superstar so fast. It is sometimes a slow process that you just gotta let happen gradually instead of expecting him to become a 20-10 with 3 blocks a night guy over night, it ain’t happening.
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we aren't too critical
He wants to be a superstar, he has the athleticism to be one. I think dub fans have a right to push him to reach his potential. But he is regressing! Plus, he doesn’t work hard enough to improve his game in practice. He needs to change his approach to the game – if we are tough or impatient with him it is because the skies the limit for this young man.
As for when he was drafted – this seems a silly argument. Plenty of examples of guys not playing at the level expected based on draft pick (Monta, Joe Smith!). Last year we all felt like we got the steal of the draft with the 14th pick. Maybe we were wrong.
I hope you are right, but at this rate I see a Stromile Swift career in his future.
Let’s take the Stromile Swift comparisons down a notch. Anthony Randolph, the current version that needs to improve, is already better than Stromile Swift ever was, if for no other reason than his rebounding…
by Missing Barry on Dec 9, 2009 8:21 AM PST up reply actions
Randolph isn't going to be playing tonight
He played, but there was a family emergency that he had to go back for, he’s going to be out a few days. So, the Warriors need someone to step up and help rebound and also help score.
Getting Morrow back should help.
you forgot...
the Absentee Randolph – the one that disappears for 9 minute stretches on the floor like in OKC.
John 8:44 -Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.
whats to say we will beat NJ netS?
Brook Lopez will pound us. Devin Harris is no joke and getting his game back. Douglas-Roberts and C-lee can shoot the 3 ball if left open, something our team does quite often on dribble penetration or collapsing on a big.
The way these warriors are playing nothing is a given. Monta is giving 9 turn overs a game, Curry/CJ can’t guard anyone. Morrow is marginally better defensively. Radman is a pleasant surprise but Mikki Moore is mind boggling bad. Randolph is not consistant. If Maggette doesn’t get going offensively we become extremely predictable (read: monta 40 shots)
that is exactly....
Why I would like us to try the line-up above…
Hunter can cover the middle nicely… Randolph can be left to be a little more ‘offensive’ (yes I do mean that) in his defence and Radman has been pretty useful on rebounds and quick hands… with the added defensive capability of Morrow and using him as the pure 3 point shooter, with suppport from Radman…leaving randolph and Monta to raid the middle and Hunter to set the pick and roll’s….
I think this unit could learn to work really well together…. the good thing is, you completely change the dynamic with the rotation players..
Curry, CJ
Magette, Moore and George This group has Curry being ball handler and a focus of letting Mags do what he does best and drive the hoop and if it is not on..kick it out to CJ for the shot or Curry with George chasing rebounds….
I genuinely believe this could work really well for us….
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by BritWarriorGSW on Dec 8, 2009 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
Devin Harris is no joke and getting his game back
Devin Harris is the poor man’s version of Monta Ellis. Harri shoots 34.8 percent from the field, all the Warriors have to do is not let him drive and force him to shoot jumpers. Force Harris to shoot threes as well he’s hitting 17.6 percent from downtown. If he hits them, then he hits them, but the Warriors cannot let Harris get to the rim, that’s the once chance the Nets have of beating the Warriors.
Please don't even start guessing games that we can win...
we can basically get blown out by the Nets and beat the Lakers by 40 at their own house.
Guessing records usually never turns out right for the Dubs anyways.
Remember who guessed we were going to have a 12-4 record to start off the year?
Anyways,have low expectations and just take it one game at a time,we will win.
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Dec 8, 2009 12:10 PM PST reply actions
Exactly.
Lock. Teh. Thread.
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Dec 8, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
Thus, Wednesday’s game at lowly New Jersey might not rate as important in most people’s minds, but it could be the most important game of Smart’s coaching career. Surely, a loss to a one-win club would pin a red flag onto his resume.
It might be the first must-win for a 6-14 team in NBA history.
I think this sums it up pretty well.
John 8:44 -Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.
agreed
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by BritWarriorGSW on Dec 8, 2009 4:54 PM PST up reply actions
Here's an argument for starting Mikki Moore at C
You wrote:
Moore isn’t going to be effective at all and will likely pick up two quick fouls.
Actually, it seems it’s more often 3 quick fouls! But that’s ok, because by playing 8-11 minutes, Mikki is spelling the better players in advance. Randolph, Hunter, Rad – these guys just aren’t competitive enough as “bigs,” and Nellie/Smart need the flexibility to be trying out a 40 minute game, not a 48 minute game, with them. This is much better than, say, Hunter picking up the first two (in the opening 4-6 minutes), and trying to “save” him for later in game, same for Randolph.
As a side note: a few games ago (the “blown lead” game, how sad, how sad), I suggested that when Monta picked up his 5th, instead of slowing it down a bit, he should’ve been told to just “go all out” and accept the 6th foul if it came. The Warriors only needed a few additional buckets to seal the game. Instead, Monta slowed, everyone went cold and stagnant. Using Mikki for the opening minutes of the game is a decent way to try to head this kind of thing off for Randolph, etc.
Ok, I like this argument. But I’m not stuck to it, as I make no claim as a great strategist. Let me know what you think!
Agreed
I think that when Ellis picked up his fifth foul he didn’t become less aggressive and the offense did go stagnant. It was also disappointing that Anthony Morrow missed that wide open three pointer that would have been huge for the Warriors as well.
As for Randolph he can play in the post look at what he did against Dwight Howard. The problem for Randolph is consistency he needs to be able to hit that 15 foot jumper so he can use a pump fake and use his ball handling to get himself to the line on a drive.
Hunter is competitive enough he is by far the superior defender than Moore, he’s also the better rebounder, and he has a better jumper, and he actually makes free throws.
Radmanovich is a small forward he shouldn’t be playing big. His problem is he’s either hot or he’s cold, there’s no in between.
I appreciate the agreement, Rocky!
But I can’t tell if you think I’m right about starting Mikki. We all know the problems (and opportunities) you list: Randolph’s post vs. consistency; Hunter’s skill set, Rad’s consistency and size. That’s what we have to work with, right now. Does it mean we should be starting Mikki, as I wrote, even though it seems somewhat counter-intuitive to start the lousiest player available?
Moore isn’t going to be effective at all and will likely pick up two quick fouls.
This was hillarious though. You made a prediction like that with no actual basis. I mean how do you know that. Nice try.
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I don't see it was meant to be funny - it's a key consideration (see my post just above) in fielding the best possible team
Mikki has picked up a couple early fouls in nearly every game, averaging just under 3 in just over 16 minutes. There are some exceptions to this, of course (1 foul in 27 mins. against Cleveland!), so it is not a “prediction,” but an expectation, hence the word “likely.” That word indicates a supposition that the future will resemble the past, with an understanding that YMMV on any given night.
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