Am I the only one pissed about the no call for Curry last night?!
Last night Curry was hammered driving to the hoop with about 48 seconds left in the game. Being a blowout the refs were holding their whistles a bit, but the lack of a foul call on that play was outright scary.
Curry was obviously hurt, potentially injured, and the refs seemed to be more interested in ending the game than applying the rules and protecting the players.
1 day after the 60 minutes interview I am shocked any ref had the balls to no call something like that, let alone all 3 refs. I expected a long list of complaints by the time I logged in here this morning including a petition to be sent to the league offices.
That was the type of foul that hasnt been allowed since the Detroit "Bad Boys" were shut down and disbanded.
Imagine the implications that would have had for our season if Curry was really injured. The Warriors would have been reduced to D League status with all the injuries and a ton of pissed season ticket holders wondering why they paid so much to watch sub par basketball.
This deserves some major discussion and pressure on the league to control the refs and level the playing field.
I believe 100% that the refs are not impartial overseers. The calls are inconsistent at best. They are not only changing the outcome of games and playign God with the future of the franchises, but they are also puting the future of these players in danger.
What would a guy like CJ Watson do if he was hammered on a lay up because those calls arent made during blowouts? CJ breaks a vertebrae in his back and on a 1 year contract is out in the cold next year with no way to make a living in the sport he has dedicated himself to.
I am livid and utterly disappointed
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That was a totally unnecessary foul. 40 seconds left in a blowout, that should’ve been at least a flagrant 1. BUT Curry didn’t even get the foul. I hate how us GSWs are looked down upon throughout the league and are always given the short end of the stick. Straight up BS.
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It's not like we change anything about that call...
it happened and the game was over.
The refs will always suck,they will never change.End of story.
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Dec 8, 2009 12:08 PM PST reply actions
It's not like we change anything about that call...
It’s not that it would’ve changed the outcome of the game, but a foul is a foul, and that was DEFINITELY a foul and should’ve been called on Westbrook. It was completely unnecessary and unsportsmanlike. Jim Barnett was right when he said if that happened to him, he would’ve kicked the ball into the stands to get T’ed up and get his money’s worth. There are certain things as a professional you need to understand and that was very unprofessional by Westbrook.
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by JustSomeName on Dec 8, 2009 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
That's true...
but the game is over.
The result was we lost,the refs are not going to apologize to us.
I do agree that was a dumb move on Westbrook’s end.
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Dec 8, 2009 1:05 PM PST up reply actions
Westbrook was probably miffed that, even though his team won, the skinny rookie outplayed him by a wide margin. Punk. I say we get Maggs, Ronny, or Hunter to return the favor next time we face them.
There will be no extra point!
Maybe Randolph can block another shot of his and then land on top of him.
by samuraaaaiiiiiii on Dec 8, 2009 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
what's this....????
Are you condoning physical contact of some nature as a little retribution…..
Surely not?!?! ;)
Maybe Hunter could grip the little punk by the throat while attempting to get the ball! :)
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by BritWarriorGSW on Dec 8, 2009 4:57 PM PST up reply actions
Haha. For some reason I feel protective of l’il Steph. He’s like our Gretzky. Can’t hurt to have a “goon” or two on your roster to at least raise the spectre of retribution.
But yeah, the spirit of the Brit Warrior has definitely inspired me. I’ve already taken to using the expression “to go all Brit Warrior” on someone…
There will be no extra point!
LOL
Ahhhh Legacy….its a wonderful thing…even if the legacy is not exactly ideal… :)
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by BritWarriorGSW on Dec 9, 2009 9:37 AM PST up reply actions
What would a guy like CJ Watson do if he was hammered on a lay up because those calls arent made during blowouts? CJ breaks a vertebrae in his back and on a 1 year contract is out in the cold next year with no way to make a living in the sport he has dedicated himself to.
Reality is that if CJ broke his back on a questionable play, the offending player gets the Flagrant 2 and a big fine. If CJ is fine, maybe a foul, maybe not. They punish for the outcome, not the risk.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Dec 8, 2009 12:41 PM PST reply actions
They punish for the outcome, not the risk.
So wouldn’t Westbrook be punished when they saw Curry fell to the floor really hard and was obviously hurt, holding his entire left side for the remainder of the game? That was totally unfair and we weren’t getting any calls during the entire game, this just added insult to injury, especially knowing that half our roster is injured, with 3 or 4 of them out for the season.
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Agree
The refs passed the point of no return on the call and let it go even though Curry was hurt. If he was down with a more severe injury they would have called an injury timeout and Smart would have ended up ejected telling the refs where to stick their whistles.
by warriorsvictim on Dec 8, 2009 3:26 PM PST up reply actions
Replay please
CSN did not show a replay of how Curry fell. In real time, it was hard to tell if Curry was hit, or if he slipped going up. Until I see a replay, I’ll reserve my judgement.
When Azubuike hurt himself, in real time, I thought he slipped on the floor. On the replay, it was clear that his didn’t slip, but it was his knee that gave out on him.
I agree...
Curry was hurt because he fell awkwardly on his elbow. If the defender jumped straight up and a no call was the right call then we have nothing to complain about – a replay is the only way to tell and I too was surprised that one didn’t come.
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I was more
pissed about the non-call on Monta during a drive sometime in the second half. He clearly was hit in the head by the defender’s arm but it was just ruled a turnover.
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Replay
3:15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX2NdeV12AI
bad angle though.
After replaying it over and over
Nothing is definitive, It looks like Westbrook may have hit Stephs head on the contest, but it also looks like nothing happened. It looks like Steph just got startled that his layup would be contested. You can also see Stephs right leg go up for no reason at 3:18?
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+1
I remember it being alot more rough than is shown in that clip. Maybe I was just angry that our Warriors let ANOTHER lead slip away and getting the L…
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I think he was hit on the shoulder
It is a bad angle, but it looks to me like Westbrook hits his shoulder/chest area on Steph. Steph’s trajectory changed and he ate shit.
I have no problem with Westbrook making a play in the ball at that point in the game-young players should play properly all the way through to develop good habits.
It’s just a bad no call
by warriorsvictim on Dec 8, 2009 3:30 PM PST up reply actions
watch the cursing...
I was given a warning last night for the same word – one more and I’m ejected like Maggette.
BTW – I think you can say that on TV now; it’s getting pretty liberal out there. Maybe one of the moderators can come up with a language guide to help us adults out as to what is too foul.
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didnt even realize I typed that
I always forget about the delicate sensibilities of the site
by warriorsvictim on Dec 8, 2009 4:48 PM PST up reply actions
may I suggest a replacement of "doo-doo"
:D
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by BritWarriorGSW on Dec 8, 2009 4:59 PM PST up reply actions
After reading some about Donaghy's book
I am convinced that every ref in the league hates the Warriors. We are abused on a nightly basis and get no calls, while whiners like Kobe complain every call and flail every time they are stripped to sway the refs. I love the Warriors, and basketball, but the lopsided reffing is disgusting at times
After reading Donaghy's book
fans of every single team are even MORE convinced that the refs hate their franchise. What’s new?
An empty barrel makes the most noise.
It def should have been a foul....
but I was more upset by the fact that nobody on the team stepped up against Westbrook. If you notice, only CJ walks over to Curry (halfheartedly) to see if he’s ok, and then Devean George lets RW go right past him and waltz down the lane and shoot an uncontested layup.
I’m sorry. SC is a rookie, and the team needs to come to his defense. I am not saying that Westbrook should have been undercut or anything, but he should have been either grabbed by DG or fouled hard by Randolph or CJ. If someone would have given a hard, totally unnecessary foul on Rajon Rondo, George Hill, etc., you better believe that someone from those teams would have shown some balls and stood up to the perpetrator, and you could expect that either KG, McDeyess, Kendrick Perkins etc. would have knocked that dude on his ass if he would have tried to drive the lane on the next play. Like I said, it wouldn’t need to be a flagrant or a fight-starter, but someone on the team needs to show Steph that they’ve got his back. If I was Curry (or coach Nelson), I’d be pissed off.
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by BeLEGENDelliAllDay on Dec 8, 2009 3:22 PM PST reply actions
I dont know
It wasnt a flagrant foul to me. It was sufficient contact to be called a foul, but it did not seem over agressive based on the way Westbrook went for the block. Westbrook just happened to hit Curry in a way that put him at risk.
I do know that the team should have let the ref have it. I was thinking the exact same thing as Barnett about kicking the ball into the stands when Curry got ahold of it. he should haev booted it to the top tier and the whole team should have walked off the floor. They were going to lose anyway, it was worth making the point.
Here's a before picture of the no call play
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What we hope to get out of this
A protest to this call would not change the outcome of this game, but it could have a profound impact on the way future games are called.
The NBA is attempting to sweep this Donaghy thing under the rug and act like there is no problem.
THERE IS A BIG PROBLEM when all games are not called the same and that bias is accepted by management.
If the Warriors do not protest this call in a public manner, we need to raise some serious hell. Even worse than putting a low quality product on the market it not showing suppotr for your employees when they are in danger of physical harm
Yeah, I gotta say this game was, at times, a sham to watch
The refs were absolutely terrible last night and I was glad that at least Maggs had the balls to call the refs out. When is the last time someone other than Nellie got tossed out of a game on two consecutive T’s?
Also, it seems to me that Monta is not getting nearly half the calls that he should be getting, and a lot of the charges he’s being whistled for are getting to be ridiculous. On another note, Monta needs to take care of the ball much better….go W’s!
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yeah i agree too....but
by applying the rules on that play….that wasn’t going to PROTECT steph…..only give him a free throw attempt…….im not saying im not pissed off or anything i really am….but the refs can’t do anything about the injury (but they can do something about the call)….think abt. it this way…..if steph wasn’t hurt at the end of that play….u guys wouldn’t be as mad as you guys are right now
by Morrow is wet!!! on Dec 8, 2009 4:32 PM PST reply actions
It's not about protecting Steph
It is about protecting players in future games. If it continues to be a fact that fouls will not be called in garbage time we will see more and more young players get hurt as hard fouls are committed on meaningless plays.
How many times have we seen a young guy trying to show he deserves playing time go for a crazy block? It happens all the time, but it needs to be called when it is a foul so
1) players understand what a foul is
2) players dont get hurt
The refs dont just keep the games honest
If they are consistent with all their calls they also teach the players how to play the game within the rules.
When players are confused about what calls will come when, then the whole game falls apart.
I believe Barnett has talked about this a few times on air.
Well there is a cure for this b......t calls/ no calls
every time there is a no-call where oviously it should be or vice versa every player should get himself ejected so after a half we wouldn’t have enough players to finish the game regulary so they would have to end the game., And we would only do this on the road so people won’t get what they paid for. I would like to see how Stern and NBA would react to this.
LOL...now THAT is a game I would pay good money to go watch..
Player 1 “ref how bout a call? what are you blind?”
ref – whistle blow….“your outta here”
Player 2 “ref you cant throw him out it makes you look like an idiot…?”
ref – whistle blow….“your outta here too”
Player 3 “ref you keep blowing that you could do well in the Castro!!!”
ref – whistle blow….“GET OUT!!!”
Player 4 “Hey ref…you keep missing calls, you know you get replays right….ah save it…I’ll go…TAXI?!?”
ref – whistle blow….“Anyone else….???”
I think I possibly die laughing watching such an event occur….
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by BritWarriorGSW on Dec 8, 2009 5:06 PM PST up reply actions
Hahaha.... I was thinking of the same thing
This is so funny, but they real should do this to make a point. For players safety. Refs are allowing other teams to step all over the Warriors without calling fouls therefore putting the players at risk.
But what can expect from the refs. anyone remember 2 years ago or so, when the Warriors had the game won and the referee decided to call a foul on Nelson with 0 time and allow the other team to have 2 free throws so the Warriors lost. After that nothing really surprises me anymore. How much more blatant can the refs get.
by WarriorsFans on Dec 10, 2009 1:29 AM PST up reply actions
"every player should get himself ejected"
That would be amazing. Imagine the doo-doo storm that would follow the second time a team has all players ejected.
Fans would riot and Stern would probably explode
by warriorsvictim on Dec 9, 2009 10:13 AM PST up reply actions
You guys have to see this....
READ the description for the Video…..
Warriors versus the Clips when a Fan gets ejected for shouting at the ref about the ‘Over or Under’ I think the side description is pretty hillarious…
Ahhhh yes and the We Believes….won! ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOgFyi8VOck
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This game screwed the Warriors
Bad luck all around. Bad calls, Maggette got ejected after a confrontation, C.J. Watson had a fast break but the shot clock didn’t get reset, etc. This game was just blah all around, though I am happy Stephen Curry did well. Dubs totally could have used Morrow for this game. Actually, they could have used him for the Magic game too, but oh well hopefully he’s there for the next game.
Dont count on it....
He has probably been told to go find the cheapest ticket available but our tightassed F.O. and so he is taking a a different aircraft that has to stop in 4 different cities before it gets to its destination…
Robert Rowell you FAIL consistantly….. You know damn well Rowell that you should have had that boy on a private jet from Carolina direct to OKC… no plane changes…no weather cock-ups…in….fast….and playing for the team…. where his input was highly likely to have helped the team with a possible result….
Whoever was in charge of operations for that day….

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by BritWarriorGSW on Dec 9, 2009 4:47 AM PST up reply actions
Word
Wouldnt you think that if a player flying from North Carolina to Oklahoma has to take 2 planes to get there and might miss the game that the organization might pay for a chartered flight?
I would love to get Mark Cuban’s take on this. If the Mavs only had 7 players dressing, would he pay to fly in that 1 other guy who might mean the difference between a win and a loss?
by warriorsvictim on Dec 9, 2009 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
normally i’d feel like a homer whining, but there is no way around it with the warriors. refs tend to go out of their way a majority of the time to not call things in their favor..(unless it’s maggette on an average night).
3 things that stick out in that game against the thunder?
monte being clubbed in the head..no call. the continued play down at the other end? a play where the Thunder player initiated and created contact on a well contested shot and wasnt impeded and a foul is called.
the steph call. from the CSNbay area angle he came down with way more force than just contesting the shot and got all arms.
or how about maggette battling for a rebound against 3 thunder and getting spilled, the refs standing around not knowing what to do so they decide “hmm well…i guess we’ll just give maggette a foul?”
with the ability monte has for finishing which has been there for a few years, he should not have to work nearly as hard for a call. although on the bright side, now that jax is gone and our players suck it up a bit more…maybe the refs will eventually stop seeking out not calling stuff in our favor as time passes. the guys on the team now bite there tounge until it just starts getting ridiculous like it did in that game.
normally i’d feel like a homer whining, but there is no way around it with the warriors. refs tend to go out of their way a majority of the time to not call things in their favor
This is how all fans feel.
the steph call. from the CSNbay area angle he came down with way more force than just contesting the shot and got all arms.
I don’t see what the big deal is here. It probably should have been a foul, sure, but people are talking about a flagrant? Really? Steph lost his balance in the air – when you jump high and lose your balance, you come down hard. That wood floor doesn’t feel good. That doesn’t mean the “foul” was blatant, hard, obvious, or even a foul at all. It means that Steph fell from a fairly high distance. Yes, it hurts to do that. I doubt any of you out there (myself included) can jump like Steph, so if you really want, try this: go out to your basketball gym, jump up sideways, and just let yourself fall on your side and see how it feels. You’ll be hurting too. Again, this doesn’t mean there should be outrage over a no call. Also, even assuming Steph was fouled, unless Westbrook was actively pushing Steph in the direction of the floor, the foul isn’t going to do anything to make it a harder landing. Gravity is at fault for the landing. 100%. It’s a physics.
Anyways, bad calls happen, get over it. Or just realize we’re all taking our frustrations over losing out on the refs. As long as you can admit to that, I won’t say anything about the complaining. ;)
by Missing Barry on Dec 9, 2009 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
Loss is not a factor for me
I just hate to see bad reffing when any team is playing.
If I saw this no call during a Lakers game, I would be just as pissed even though I hate the Lakers with a passion.
The refs need to make the same calls in the first 5 minutes and the last 5 minutes. The rules dont change and the players deserve some respect and consistency
by warriorsvictim on Dec 10, 2009 10:13 AM PST up reply actions
Evidence/ VIDEO CLIPS!
I’ve mentioned this before on this thread. Maybe it’ll get more attention here. But some one, however does these video highlights should compile missed calls of every game. Then we post them to Youtube.com and send the link as man times as possible via emial to the nba as a community. It’s BS, it’s bogus, and it’s unacceptable.
In no other leauge do missed calls draw this little attention. It’s the NBA that fines player, coaches, etc. everytime they even think of saying something about the refs. In football a game changing missed call is talked about for weeks.
Should I remind everyone of the foul Brent Barry took by Fisher (aka player assoc. pres) at the end of game six 2 years ago. If that wasn’t a clearly obvious foul then i don’t know what is. It should’ve been Spurs / Celtics that year…..but NO, that not was Stern wanted. How many of these incedents are we going to accept? It’s in almost every game i see. Especially against the warriors on frequent occasions. Maybe they don’t like Nelle/ didn’t like Jax/ but it doesn’t matter. They don’t have too. They should rule by a code of ethics. It’s clearly not there.
I think collectively we could email the hell out of the nba with this crap. Video evidence is very compelling. Even CC ESPN. If it’s not GSOM ….at some point , some community, media will do this and step up but, it won’t change until then.
BTW
I have been a referre. I understand the challenge of being a ref. But let’s be honest. These guys have been refs for years and it’s their profession. They are supposed to be the best?
Honestly, it’s not hard. It’s an easy job. I don’t want to hear otherwise unless you’ve actually been paid to ref yourself.
I disagree. I think they do a good job. Reffing lower levels is going to be a whole lot easier than reffing NBA guys at the speed they play at, and the size and strength they have. It’s also a 48 minute game – 50% longer than high school (and thus 50% more missed calls I would assume), twice as long as lower level CYO….yeah, over the course of the game, there are going to be missed calls. It just seems like a bigger deal since you can see every one of them on replay from numerous angles, sometimes in slow-mo (something the refs can’t do).
I don’t want to hear otherwise unless you’ve actually been paid to ref yourself.
Yes, I did ref for a few years, since obviously you’re interested.
Overall I think the biggest thing is the perception of how many bad calls there are doesn’t match reality. Fans are biased for their team, any potential slight is taken as a definite and deliberate attempt to screw their team. For us, it’s the Warriors. For other fans, it’s their team. I’m sure if you talked to say…a Thunder fan about the Warriors game and how the refs screw over the Warriors, they’d tell you you’re out of your mind because the refs were clearly favoring the Warriors….
by Missing Barry on Dec 11, 2009 10:11 AM PST up reply actions

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