ESPN Report: Randolph/Biedrins for Bosh Was On The Table!
According to alot of the beat writers, our Golden State Warriors are going to be active players in this year's trade deadline. Many of the writers such as Kawakami and Thompson have sources claiming we are going after some of the bigger names out there such as Bosh & Stoudemire and the Dubz are willing to part with either Ellis or Biedrins.
According to Rich Bucher of ESPN:
League sources say the Warriors offered rookie Anthony Randolph and veteran Andris Biedrins to the Toronto Raptors for Chris Bosh and while the Raptors were not interested, other sources say the Warriors are also taking a run at the Phoenix Suns' Amare Stoudemire, presumably with a similar offer.
This tells me a few things. One, we don't value Ellis and Biedrins like we used too and two, if that report is true, Don Nelson/Larry Riley are the ones in control of the teams basketball personel decisions ( since Mullin drafted Randolph, I'm assuming he wouldn't be the one to trade him).
I believe the Dubz will make more than one trade before the deadline and even though we may not end up with some of these players mentioned, you have to give it up to the Dubz for considering big names in the trade market.
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aw man, that is totally unfair to beans.
i sure as hell hope he doesn’t get traded.
It’s unfair to Biedrins but its part of the business. If trading Biedrins/Randolph = Bosh than I’m in. Biedrins has been great to us but his offense is very limited. Bringing in someone like Bosh will give us someone who can score and also defend
come on now..
why do people get so concerned with defense. No one on the Warriors plays a lick of defense and you’re making that one of the primary reasons to not go after a star like Bosh or Amare? come on now..
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by ItsDatFriscoSwag415 on Feb 10, 2009 9:44 AM PST up reply actions
Really...
Bosh is actually a really good defender. Why do you think he got more PT than Dwight Howard in the Olympics? He was the designated post defender and rebounder. The dude is a stud on both ends of the court.
+1
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by ItsDatFriscoSwag415 on Feb 10, 2009 9:43 AM PST up reply actions
Uh...
This is surreal. These comments and all (excepting Nuck’s) below are completely missing the point. Toronto REJECTED a deal of Biedrins/Randolph for Bosh. What part of the REJECTED headline are you people having trouble with? That means that in their minds (and probably just about every other human’s on the planet) Bosh is worth MORE than Biedrins and Randolph. That means we can’t land Stoudemire for those two either, in any realistic scenario. Do we have a better offer to make? Not really. Not an offer that leaves us with any kind of team.
The high-level players who come here (Crawford, Maggette, B-Davis, Jax, Harrington) all have one thing in common: they aren’t really wanted elsewhere and this is kinda the last stop on the train ride of their NBA careers. Lucky ones rehabilitate and then get back into the REAL NBA, but the idea that one of these All-Stars will come here AND STAY at the top of their game when they could just as easily go to Miami, LA, Cleveland, etc. and play with other real All-Stars and actually go to the playoffs a lot leaves us twisting in the wind.
REJECTED :/
by Ormolov on Feb 10, 2009 10:59 AM PST up reply actions 5 recs
I agree with the latter, but not the former
Because PHX is actively shopping Stoudemire. Everyone knows that Stoudemire is on the trading block. PHX’s goal for the trading deadline is to get rid of him and get a future all-star in return. Toronto’s goal for the deadline is to put some solid pieces AROUND Bosh. They are not looking to trade him. They are listening to offers because they know the relationship is heading in a bad direction, but right now Bosh and Stoudemire are apples and oranges.
great....
trade two big men for one big man….great. trade some WINGS!!!! WINGSS!!!
WINGS!!!! WINGSS!!!
Wings are delicious…ever had WingStop?
Geeez Louf*ckingweeez!!!
by scottiepimppen on Feb 10, 2009 9:21 AM PST up reply actions
mmmmm...
wing stop! i think ima have to grab me some before the game tonight!
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by ItsDatFriscoSwag415 on Feb 10, 2009 9:46 AM PST up reply actions
DAMN!!!
That sounds like a good idea! Where’s the nearest WingStop from the Arena? I know there’s one in Pinole and Richmond, but I’ll be comin from the City.
Geeez Louf*ckingweeez!!!
by scottiepimppen on Feb 10, 2009 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
there's one right by the arena
it’s in the plaza where the Wal Mart is. hahaha them wings is crackin’!
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by ItsDatFriscoSwag415 on Feb 10, 2009 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
Wing Stop is okay....
But them wings are tiny! Wing Street (part of Pizza Hut) has some good wings. They are much meatier. Only Wing Street I know of is in the new Target Plaza in San Lorenzo.
I agree that they don't have the best wings
I’ve had better ones but those parmesian garlic ones is crackin! they are hella small though and pretty pricey neverthe less they’re good. haha
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by ItsDatFriscoSwag415 on Feb 10, 2009 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
COOL!!!
I know where that is! Alright, but maybe I got wings on the brain right now cuz it’s almost lunch time! Knowing me, I’m gonna end up overpaying for something at the Arena! haha
Geeez Louf*ckingweeez!!!
by scottiepimppen on Feb 10, 2009 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
Yum. WingStop
get rid of some of the backcourt, dammit. NOT the already small front court.
i wouldnt wanna trade either of them or ellis....anyone else would be okay with me tho
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Same.
Biedrins is so underrated IMO. sure he’s not putting up as many points as last year, and is fg% is down from last year, he’s still freaking valuable to this teem.
& as much as I am annoyed with how CRAPPY monta’s doing (yes despite his injury and how he needs to get back with the chemistry..i thought he’d be doing much better than he is NOW….) i tihnk we need to wait and see how he does before we trade him cause i have a hugeass gut feeling that if we trade monta, its gonna bite us in the butt. hard.
by goldenstatelove on Feb 10, 2009 3:52 PM PST up reply actions
ill trade ellis...
but Beans seems to have maxed out his capabilities.. he just seems content to play in the NBA.. he doesnt play like he’s hungry
I KICKED IT WITH JESUS ONCE.. HE'S KIND OF A PRICK
not hungry?
You mean like he doesnt improve every year hes in the league? oh wait…..
yeah he's improving in numbers...
but that improvement will not go up next year.. this is his last season with improved numbers i’ll bet.. plus, do you really see that fire in his eyes when he plays? I sure dont
I KICKED IT WITH JESUS ONCE.. HE'S KIND OF A PRICK
OH MY GOD!!
WE HAVE A FORTUNE TELLER ON GSOM. WHEN IS THE NEXT TIME THE WARRIORS WILL MAKE THE PLAYOFFS? WHO WILL THE WARRIORS DRAFT?? SO MANY QUESTIONS SO LITTLE TIME!!!!
How do you know how Biedrins will do next year.He doesn’t play like he’s hungry? He’s hungry with most of the rebounds the Warriors get every game. Maybe he’s a bit full?
Nelly has wet dreams about starting Monta at center.
you dont see the fire in his eyes?
Thats truly moronic to call Biedrins heart into play, you obviously like flash over substance because your reasoning for Biedrins not being very good are laughable.
Hey I dont see that "fire" in Tim Duncan's eyes either
He sucks to
There's a party in my mind.
And I wish that I was there.
Rumors and speculation
99.9% of the things we hear between now and the deadline will end up having been baseless rumors started by agents and the media to play up the hype around particular players and teams. Not saying this trade wasn’t actually offered, but I have my doubts.
Monta is the singular of Montus, of the Montai
not that i dont like biedrins but
i think they are thinking more of the big picture like: Media attention and super star power that would recharge the warriors. Also Biedrins free throws has probably cost us too many games that we just seem to forget about. Think if we had a center that could knock down those free throws.
This trade sucks
Why would we lose our best bigman and a promising rookie for another bigman…that doesn’t solve our problems of who to play at the center spot..unless the warriors are gonna start ronnie or brandan, which if theydo, is a retrarted trade
How does this show we don't value Bieds and Randolph?
You wrote:
“One, we don’t value Ellis and Biedrins like we used too and two, if that report is true, Don Nelson/Larry Riley are the ones in control of the teams basketball personel decisions ( since Mullin drafted Randolph, I’m assuming he wouldn’t be the one to trade him).”
To the contrary, this shows that we value them tremendously. Bosh is a big catch. We’re putting a lot of trust in him by acquiring him for two pieces of our future. But he’s still young and still getting better as well. He definitely has a higher ceiling than both players (and don’t try to argue that he doesn’t because that’s just ridiculous)
This would be a huge move. Ellis, Jackson, and Bosh is a legit core that would get us back into the playoffs.
Duke grad student missing the Bay but holding it down for the Dubs from afar.
Ellis/Beans
Were once considered “Untouchables” and now they are part of any trading chips management would consider!
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by gswfan4life on Feb 10, 2009 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
Well said
I agree. This doesn’t mean that we don’t Biedrins, it just means that Bosh is a premier player in the league and in order to get one of the top dogs, you have to give up something of value. It’s not like Toronto is going to take Rob Kurz and Marcus Williams for him.
I like Biedrins a lot. He’s really grown in the years since we drafted him and it sucks to see someone like him go, but if it brings a legitimate All-Star big man to the team, then I guess I can live with it. As for Randolph, everyone says he has the raw talent and the potential to be a Top 10 talent, but didn’t we all hear the same about Ike Diogu? Let’s face it, regardless of who says what, Nellie isn’t going to let Randolph and Wright have a chance to grow here, so we might as well get something for them before their trade value is gone.
OH GREAT!!!! so you wanna trade marcus williams now!?
pssssshhhh
by 123707THIZZ on Feb 10, 2009 10:30 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
haha
do i detect a hint of sarcasm in that last statement?
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by ItsDatFriscoSwag415 on Feb 10, 2009 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
Do any of you here wish you could be Marcus Williams?
In a way I do…at least I get $1 mil+ and get the best seat in the house. Other than that, I wouldn’t wanna be known as Sorryness Jasikevičius 2.0.
JR...An All-Time Warriors Favorite!
by MANUTEs BOLs on Feb 10, 2009 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
man..
i’d be any NBA player pretty much. Basketball as a job? that’s like a dream!! Hella money minimum 300k or so, hella females automatic, sick basketball gear, travelling. the list goes on.
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by ItsDatFriscoSwag415 on Feb 10, 2009 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
hahha
he was on warriors weekly doing interviewing other people, he’s offically done more as a journalist than a player as a warrior
I prefer Bosh over Amare
However, here are my untouchables: AB, Turiaf and Kelenna
Almost untouchables: Maggette, Morrow, CJ, ME. Surprised to see Morrow and CJ here? Me too!
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Maggette...
as your almost untouchable!! He’s #1 on my list of the player that needs to be traded, which also includes Stephen Jackson and Jamal Crawford.
Yeah, to me...
our most important players (value/salary) are KAz, Turiaf, Morrow, BWright, AB. Trade anyone else and I’m happy, although I’d prefer to keep Maggs at this point. CJ doesn’t play enough D but is getting recognition for his clutchness and Marco can be a valuable sweetener in many deals.
Jax is #1 on my list to go...but we still need a consistent scorer
in Maggette to help Monte and Bosh or Amare or Odom out on offense. Jax seems to play big one night and then disappears the next 4 or 5 games. We can’t have that. Among the three you have on your list, I’d keep CM and JC.
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then what
Trade Maggette, Jackson, and Crawford and then have only one legit NBA starting guard? Please don’t tell me Morrow, Belo, and Buike are legit starters in this league. Nice role players, yes.
Maggette would be great to keep because he gets to the hoop and to the line. That makes him a nice complement to Jackson. For some reason everybody is down on him when they should be down on Nelly and Ellis for being an idiot and getting injured.
Trading Jackson at this point would be a grave mistake. The Dubs wouldn’t get much relative value back for him, especially considering the fact that he is more valuable to the Dubs than he would be for any other team. This is for three reasons : 1. he’s the only remaining piece from We Believe, 2. he hits big shots, and 3. despite his faults, he still fills up the stat sheet beyond points (boards, 3s, steals, assists).
Duke grad student missing the Bay but holding it down for the Dubs from afar.
We don't need Jax for the following reasons:
1. he takes volume shots just to reach 25-30pts
2. he makes stupid mistakes such as complaining to the refs and not getting back on D. He leaves his team hanging, which usually then shifts the momentum. Sometimes he even gets T’d up. Again, this can change the momentum.
3. he’s a TO machine
4. he doesn’t board as well as you think
5. who cares about the “We Believe” era? This is a new era so let that go will ya?!?!?
6. reason why he fills up the stat sheet (btw, you forgot to include TO there) is because somehow he’s the focal point of the offense. This is one of the reasons why I want Nellie gone. Nellie wants him to “expand” his game by doing other things. And these things certainly have hurt the Warriors. I like Jax if he plays within his limits.
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by MANUTEs BOLs on Feb 10, 2009 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
I love Biedrins...
In a perfect world, I would not even think to part ways with either him or Ellis. AB has to be one of my favorite Warriors and he’s a double double machine. He’s a hardworker that continually puts in the time to improve his game during the season and during off season. Ellis, aside from the stupid moped incident, is the most electrifying Warrior since…..since……since………uhhhh I’m drawing a blank! haha J-Rich was an exciting high flyer but we never had someone with the speed, agility and talent that Monta has or had and at such a young age, you can only predict that he’ll get better (Note: I didn’t say smarter!). Once he gets back to form, sky’s the limit for this kid.
However, even with all this being said, I would definitely have to consider trading one of the two for a player like Bosh or Amare. These two guys are among the best power forwards in the league and they can do much good for our team. Honestly, if I could though, I’d unload Crawford and/or Maggette and just give them Randolph/Wright along with a couple of our wings like Belinelli and dead weight Williams. Plus I’d throw a bunch of cash at them. People saying that we don’t need a player like Amare Stoudemire must be out of their minds. Right now, Amare is understandably disgruntled but IF (That’s a truly big IF) we ever do get him or even if he gets traded to another team, people will soon see how good this guy can be and they will eat their words. Believe that!
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by ItsDatFriscoSwag415 on Feb 10, 2009 8:59 AM PST reply actions
We don't have a chance
Raptors GM already said he’s not trading bosh till the of fseason (yesterday or even the day before). Not that it would stop Bucher from writing the article and creating a bunch of unsubstantiated hype.
So again, we readers will get to “entertain” another idiotic trade proposal. My eyes bleed.
Honestly though
aren’t we supposed to keep Ellis and Beans that is why no Rich and no BD?
I will always be your fan JRich. Good Luck
wow way to alienate AB, the only guy who actually has heart and doesnt decide if hes going to hustle from game to game
by 123707THIZZ on Feb 10, 2009 10:26 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
We need to keep AB
Let’s trade some chuckers.
by Nuck Chorris on Feb 10, 2009 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
I say, Andris.
But I’d rather move the new Monta.
Hasheem "The Dream" Thabeet or Greg Monroe. A Warrior in 09.
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Andre Smith in Silver & Black in 2009.
Extending Jackson was a grave mistake
Having his expiring contract right now would of been INCREDIBLY valuable right now. I was against the exstension when I first heard him talking to Rowell. Now that we are at this point, I think the early Jackson exstension will begin to show more and more as a dumb organizational move. He would of been the icing on the cake contract for making a big deal splash with any team come the trade deadline.
Did you just read my mind?
I was just thinking about this when I was responding to eastbayglory’s comments.
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by MANUTEs BOLs on Feb 10, 2009 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
One can argure
extending Jackson was a mistake. I will make the case that providing Jackson with an allstar puts us back into the playoff hunt. The dubs need a gamer! The only proven gamer on the warrior squad this year happens to be Jackson. Crawford is probably next on the list but to me has too soft of a game to be considered a gamer.
I don’t like Jackson as the primary go to guy but he’s the only one that nellie can count on (see 40+ min a game). I love Bosh’s game. He’s a baller that knows how to win. He is also supplemented by non-ballers up in Toronto. Put Bosh and Jackson together and bring in the playoff talks. Imagine:
Turiaf
Bosh
Jackson
Ellis
Crawford
Our current lineup is showing promise. Add Bosh to the mix and start making noise! The Bay Area deserves a star! No more Rudy’s! Love ya goose but if I had a choice, im going with Bosh!
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by WarriorNation on Feb 10, 2009 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
If Bosh or Amare doesn't happen, then
how about getting LaFraenz AND Rudy F? See
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=32044543190165378&teams=99222222&te=&cash=
This way, we keep AB, ME, and then come off-season, we’ll have enough to get an established big somewhere. We’d also be able to get rid of Jax and his idiotic contract AND we get an exciting player (Rudy F) to run with ME. I’ve read that Rudy’s not getting the PT he wants due to the emergence of Jerryd Bayless. Plus they have Blake there. BTW, insurance is paying 80% of LaFraenz’s contract.
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man i sooooo badly wanted Lafrenz to be good when he was a rook
bought a whole bunch of memerabilia of his, all worthless now lol. i think having his signiture on a basket ball makes the value of the basketball itself go down…..
I'd do this even if they gave us Shavlik Randolph instead of Rudy.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=45428103190378497&teams=99222222&te=&cash=
Portlands not dumb though.
Nelly has wet dreams about starting Monta at center.
portland loves rudy
i’m sure jack + crawf would put portland way way into lux tax
crawf just makes another combo guard that portland would have (jay bay and roy) alongside their semi-“true” points (blake and sergio)
just foolish to even entertain that
no one on the warriors will go anywhere for any significant player
this franchise has nothing – read it – nothing to offer any other team
by so ill so d0pe on Feb 10, 2009 4:08 PM PST up reply actions
If I'm reading your comments correctly, then you're missing
the point when you say:
no one on the warriors will go anywhere for any significant player
this franchise has nothing – read it – nothing to offer any other team
If LaFraenz was 8-10 younger, yes then we’d be pursuing a “significant” player. The reason why I wanted to draw up that trade scenario is to dump salaries. Portland’s been looking to dump LaFraenz. I’d like to get rid of JAX and his fat contract. We’re not looking to get a “significant” player you know.
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by MANUTEs BOLs on Feb 10, 2009 4:50 PM PST up reply actions
More JAX hating....how about we trade
JAX for Candice Parker
Would you give up the defensive presence for the potentially higher scoring efficiency?
This is Nellie ball afterall, to hell with the defense, lets score.
leave it be
let wright or randolph develop and juz loose jc an maggs and get a shutdown defender an a point
It doesn’t matter.
If Bosh does get traded this season, it’ll be to Portland.
Raef LaFrentz ($13mil expiring contract)
Travis Outlaw (young cheap talent they won’t need anymore, Bosh’s replacement in Toronto)
Future draft picks (POR is so loaded with young talent they won’t need them)
And then we have to deal with a Bosh/Aldridge/Oden Blazers dynasty for the next decade or so.
Apparently Brandon Roy isn't part of this dynasty.
"Monta is the MAN." -Bob Fitzgerald
by WarriorForLife on Feb 11, 2009 9:21 PM PST up reply actions
i want BOSH
GSW gets BOSH
TOR gets ELLIS, WRIGHT, BELINELLI, draft pick, and cash
PG crawford – watson
SG azubuike – morrow
SF jackson – maggete
PF bosh – randolph
C beans – turiaf
dAMMMMMMMMMN!
























