Anthony Randolph + Andris Biedrins for Chris Bosh Rejected [ESPN]

"Ric Bucher, ESPN The Magazine: Despite their losing record, the Warriors are convinced they are only one piece away from being America's most exciting underdog again, and they're apparently hoping to prove it before the Feb. 19 trade deadline.

League sources say the Warriors offered rookie Anthony Randolph and veteran Andris Biedrins to the Toronto Raptors for Chris Bosh, and while the Raptors were not interested, other sources say the Warriors are also taking a run at the Phoenix Suns' Amare Stoudemire, presumably with a similar offer.

All this was before Biedrins sprained his ankle Friday in Phoenix, so it's not clear what impact that might have on his immediate value. He is expected to be back playing before the trade deadline. If nothing else, the Warriors' willingness to move Randolph and Biedrins is more proof that the Warriors are ready to sacrifice long-term development for a team coach Don Nelson can win with now."

Long-term Development = Long-term Suck

There's a reason the Craptors rejected Randolph and Biedrins for Bosh- they're not fools. Well at least not that big of fools.

Also see: ESPN Report: Randolph/Biedrins for Bosh Was On The Table! (gswfan4life)

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Wow

I am very glad they rejected the offer. We’ve seen what one big does for us. I know Bosh > Beans at this point, and maybe in the future, but still being too dependent on one big won’t make us contenders. Now if we could somehow add another big to Biedrins and Turiaf, then I’d be willing to give up some big talent.

by Eggman on Feb 10, 2009 9:22 AM PST reply actions

+1

by worldblee on Feb 10, 2009 9:31 AM PST up reply actions

I don't beleive Bucher but if it is true I am glad it did not happen.

Since when is trading our best big helping us get bigger? Makes no sense at all. Therefore I think Bucher is full of it.

by dungeness crabdribble on Feb 10, 2009 9:25 AM PST reply actions

trading our best big for a better big may not make us bigger but it makes us better. I love Biedrins but it would be much easier to find someone to fill his role in the offseason or via the draft than it would be to find a Bosh type player.

"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike

by sam23 on Feb 10, 2009 9:32 AM PST up reply actions

One big is what it’s always going to be – one big. Which also means one rebounder and one guy defending the rim. Sure you might point to the “We Believe” year and last years’ 48 win season as reasoning for one big. But we had tremendous rebounding guards in J-Rich and Davis. Not to mention we have a point guard who was a pass first guard.

Trading for a guy like Amare or Bosh is for scoring, we’re the 2nd highest scoring team already yet we still can’t seem to win. Why? We have one rebounder and one defender in the paint.

by gunwing54 on Feb 10, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions

ok, but

its still making the team better.

"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike

by sam23 on Feb 10, 2009 4:23 PM PST up reply actions

How much better. Championship contender better or just winning 5 games more better?

And how does switching centers make us better? Sure we’d have an All-Star, someone to draw in the crowds…but do we really need that? Dose either of them being the only big on the the floor at any one time make the Warriors better defensively? Will the team rebound better?

The problem with the Warriors is not that our center sucks, we have darn good centers in Andris and Ronny. Our problem is that our darn good centers need help on the floor. People forget that defense and rebounding is like everything else about basketball, a team effort. A real PF in the paint along side Andris/Ronny does score with their back to the net. But (1) it’s to put another body on the defensive paint so Andris or Ronny doesn’t have to box out 2 people AND go after the rebound (2) when they go for the block when the opposing guards eventually get past our great perimeter D we have someone there to hopefully get the ball (3) so we won’t have to put Jackson or Buike on a 6’10" 250pd PF and pray that the said 250pd is having a bad day.

by gunwing54 on Feb 12, 2009 2:40 PM PST up reply actions

Wow..

Even though I love Biedrins and all that he does for us, I would not hesitate a second to pull that move for Bosh! That would have been an absolute steal!!

Swagga on a Hundred! Thousand! Trillion!

by ItsDatFriscoSwag415 on Feb 10, 2009 9:33 AM PST reply actions

+1

what is wrong with a backcourt of Bosh, Turiaf, and Wright?

I dont understand why anyone would be so worried about losing Randolph and Biedrins at this point unless you are convinced Bosh will be gone when the contract expires.

by warriorsvictim on Feb 10, 2009 9:42 AM PST reply actions

you mean frontcourt?

by jchao204 on Feb 11, 2009 10:53 AM PST up reply actions

Well...

…can you think of any conceivable reason he wouldn’t be gone? Everybody under the sun knows New York is gearing up for 2010, as are a host of other teams that are jockeying for position. New Orleans basically mortgaged any shot they had of a playoff run by trading away their only center to cut costs, and I’m sure they’re hoping that next year they can shave off a couple more contracts and make a play. There are going to be loads of teams bidding on Bosh, who would be the highest profile FA the Warriors would be dealing with in a long time. And as you may have noticed, we’re not great with FAs. We offered Gilbert Arenas, a man who hasn’t even managed to hit the court this year, a max money type deal, 100M+, and he turned it down. If we got Bosh, there is no way- no conceivable way that he would resign with the Golden State Warriors.

Tainted name, tainted logo, tainted brand. The only way we’ll climb out of this hole is if for once, we do it the right way. We can develop young players who are reasonably talented enough to succeed, build a likable “ensemble” sort of team (having consistency on the roster matters for potential FAs, obviously), and we need to win at least 42 games three years in a row. Teams that win habitually win in the deals they make. We are an absolutely poisonous organization right now. Obviously, what we really need is change at the top. But since that’s not entirely possible, all I have left is to hope that Cohan and Rowell shut up, do no more future damage, and we luck into a few winning seasons. Holy hell…

by Zack Vank on Feb 17, 2009 2:05 PM PST up reply actions

Long term development

Only applies to one player on the dubz, maybe two: Anthony Randolph for sure, maybe Marco Bellinelli. Those are the only two players who have definitely not yet reached close to their potential (by virtue of being young guys, of course).

But I have to agree with Atma, if the warriors just stand pat with what they got, they’re going to suck for as long as they do. Maybe not as badly as they have this season, but not close to the We Believe era.

What I’m saying is that we need to trade something. I actually think that the proposed one is somewhat fair, because they are getting a potential (emphasis on potential) all-star in AR, for dirt cheap. Sure he’s young, but he’s EXACTLY the kind of young building block a team would want (who is looking for something like that, of course).

Too bad they rejected, because I would have been ok with this trade, and I think it was ok for them too.

by Run Dubz on Feb 10, 2009 9:50 AM PST reply actions

salaries dont match!

not even close actually…

by krazybalr on Feb 10, 2009 9:51 AM PST reply actions

this would work

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=24274971977&teams=28289&te=&cash=

by krazybalr on Feb 10, 2009 9:53 AM PST reply actions

would they stay?

Right now I’d be afraid to trade for either Bosh or Amare because I do not think they would stay after their current contract is up. We’d be renting them for next season and even if we had either one of them, that would not make us a championship-contending team. I think we’d make playoffs no doubt, but then what? They bounce and we’re stuck again just like this past offseason. Teams began preparing for 2010 Free Agency since last season. It would be hard for the Warriors to retain either Amare or Bosh.

by bObaBaLLa on Feb 10, 2009 12:27 PM PST reply actions

Man...

…if this could only get us back to the “We Believe” era, that’d be great. Ignoring for a moment that the “We Believe” team was an exhilarating, inspirational, but ultimately doomed group that could’ve never contended at the highest level.

by Zack Vank on Feb 10, 2009 4:16 PM PST reply actions