Rumor: Baron back to the Warriors for Maggette
Ok so I was watching ESPN and I see Ric Bucher talking about potential trades before the trade deadline. He mentions how the Warriors will be active but we already knew that.
But then he says that the Clippers offered the Warriors Baron Davis for Corey and m. williams and THE WARRIORS rejected it! I was completely and utterly shocked. I would love to have Baron back especially if we can get rid of maggettes contract (although we're getting back a bad contract for Baron).
If what Bucher said was true and we were offered this trade by the Clips, would you accept or would you veto it like Rowell did?
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HIS CONTRACT IS EVEN WORSE THAN MAGGETTES
"Shallow Hal, wants a gal"
You're not hot anymore!
by AlbinoWhale on Feb 10, 2009 5:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but hes more worth his contract than Maggette ever will be. Signing Maggs was the dumbest signing ever considering we had a cheaper option in buike
by bushido on Feb 11, 2009 9:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
-1
i don’t agre with that at all. Maggette has improved a whole lot as of late and is super effective off the bench and I haven’t heard any complaints about coming off the bench with him. The only thing wrong with him is his contract and that’s not his fault. Baron is an actor who loves Hollywood. just let him go already and let’s focus on what is really ailing us right now: the lack of a dominant 4! Then we can worry about getting a true point guard later.
Swagga on a Hundred! Thousand! Trillion!
by ItsDatFriscoSwag415 on Feb 11, 2009 10:19 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
My words exactly. Maggette’s been performing so well off the bench. Sure he could pass the ball a little more but he’s improved there too. I dont even mind his contract anymore with the number’s he’s been putting up.
by goldenstatelove on Feb 11, 2009 7:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
word
its great watching him on MY team. instead of hearing the announcers grumble at how much he gets to the line, they giggle along with me.
I am Greg Oden, i am goingz to be trade to The Warrior. hoooray.
Warriors for life. Raiders till death. And The A's when i get free tickets.
by STIX on Feb 11, 2009 8:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
wow
i have a hard time believing the warriors would say no to that. I think has bad sources
by bayareaballa on Feb 10, 2009 5:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
BUT
If he can be healthy again, i hope he can make Anthony Randolph a better player and also help Monta get back on track
"Shallow Hal, wants a gal"
You're not hot anymore!
by AlbinoWhale on Feb 10, 2009 5:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I'd do that trade in a heartbeat...
Personally, I’d trade a mid round talent like Maggette for an All-Star calibur Davis any day of the week. Their contracts are about 10 mil apart… spread out over 4 years each…. that’s fine w/ me!
by Mr. Monday Night on Feb 10, 2009 5:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Baron Davis is light years away from allstar
by buky on Feb 10, 2009 7:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't say he was an all-star...
but last season he was playing like an all star… and he was an all-star in the past. You can’t tell me that he wasn’t playing all-star calibur ball during his tenure with the warriors. Saying he’s light years away from being an all-star is a huge overexaggeration. How long have you been watching the NBA?
by Mr. Monday Night on Feb 11, 2009 11:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Insane. Baron is crud now.
He’ll never be anything near an “all-star” again. He’s playing the way he plays now. Crappy. Incredibly bad shooting percentage. Still jacking up threes. The Clips record is no illusion. It’s Baron’s team, and they deserve each other.
by formerlythecity on Feb 12, 2009 1:53 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not Baron's team...
It’s Dunleavy’s team. It’s his system. If Elton Brand couldn’t cut it there (with a better supporting cast), what makes you think that Baron could? The Clippers are a SUPER dysfunctional team right now.
by Mr. Monday Night on Feb 12, 2009 8:27 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Baron...
…certainly feels like a risky proposition at this point, especially since the ship isn’t just sinking, it’s sunk. If we were good enough to have another shot at an ‘07 style charge to the playoffs, I’d say do it, but frankly Davis isn’t that player now, and he’s locked up at premium money to boot.
Part of what you have to consider is his pay scale relative to other star points. I think he’s at five years, sixty mil, right? That’s obviously less per year than he made off us, but his previous contracts was crazy high money per year. As it stands Davis is, if motivated and healthy, not able to handle Chris Paul or Deron Williams who seem to be viewed as gold standard points in the west (although I’m suspicious that Williams may fall off as the Jazz turmoil increases, if it does).
The other thing is that Maggette is doing his job capably right now. What we’ve seen is that as a bench weapon, he’s been virtually peerless of late. Baron being back also means Monta is a shooting guard again, and suddenly we have an almost inoperable guard glut. You’ve got Monta, Baron, Belinelli, Azubuike, Morrow, and Watson. Monta and Baron virtually have to be big minute player in the ideal rotation, around 35 per game (ideally less for Baron). So does Watson back up Baron? I agree that Ellis isn’t a prototype point and plays more the style of a shooting guard, but as much as we lauded Baron for guarding 2s last year, he can’t sustain it. They’re too big and quick and his body isn’t built for it. We’ve created a situation, not unlike last year, in which Ellis not only can’t guard his man, but is making the team defense weaker.
So, I guess my point is that I’d only do the deal if Ellis were being shipped out in another deal so that Baron could man the point and guard the opposing point.
Baron/Azubuike/Jackson/?/Biedrins is probably a team that doesn’t win as many games but is more equipped for a playoff run. Ellis’ one stretch in the playoffs was a small-scale disaster, and I’m sure he’d be better next time out, but watching him move around since the injury, I’ve obvious that his once atrocious defense is now impossible to plan around. Steve Nash absolutely destroyed him on the pick and roll the game we won, the whole first half Ellis was doing nothing but swiping at Nash from behind as he blew past.
by Zack Vank on Feb 10, 2009 5:11 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
1) i don ‘t see how our record comes into play in deciding this trade. if we were hypothetically taking on a long term contract and giving up a shorter one that would be one thing, but if we’re basically trading one bad contract for another, who cares? if the warriors really rejected this trade it probably has more o do with saving face. losing baron hurt he franchise’s image, and getting him back would stir up a ton of controversy.
2) i also don’t see how baron’s ability to “handle” paul or williams matters. the guy never has been a consistently good defender. that’s not what his value is. his value for us is his ability to run the break, and with that you accept his inadvisable 3s and erratic steals etc.
3) not having baron doesn’t solve our “gaurd glut”. monta isn’t ready to play the point and he never will be particularly good at it. that’ what crawford is for.
shawn marion's jumper makes me want to crap a book on how to puke.
by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Feb 10, 2009 5:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
totally agree on point #3
ellis can easily become a superstar (top 4 in league) 2…but he’s not gunna become a top 1 ever based on everything we have seen
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
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by LostHawk on Feb 10, 2009 6:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry can't accept that
until I see some proof. Get us a link, a clip on youtube, a letter sent by messenger pigeon, a picture drawn by that dude on Heroes who can paint the future just something concrete.
Other wise we can talk about the rumor I just heard that the Warriors rejected a trade involving Lebron James for Anthony Randolph!
by VERY VERY BUSY on Feb 10, 2009 5:13 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
you're wrong. it wasnt anthony randolph
it was for M. Williams
I KICKED IT WITH JESUS ONCE.. HE'S KIND OF A PRICK
by DMJR on Feb 10, 2009 5:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I saw it on ESPN as well
this isnt made up
San Jose Sabercats. 2009 Arena Football Champions........Oh wait a second.
by sloth11 on Feb 10, 2009 5:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
T.V. does not lie,
’cause its made by G.O.D.!
by farid on Feb 10, 2009 7:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
you want a link?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=TradeWatchPG-090210
Well there ya go. I just wanted to post this ASAP after I saw it on tv.
by Calamity on Feb 10, 2009 8:21 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Monta will be traded...
As much as I hate to say it there is a very good chance that Monta will be traded to the Phoenix Suns for Amare. These are just rumors but the Warriors would be smart not to trade him. He’s starting to gain back his quickness as of late and is playing some good defense.
by Richboievans on Feb 10, 2009 5:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Monta to the Suns?
So he can back up J Rich AGAIN?!
WARRIORS BASKETBALL!!! Patiently waiting for a title...I may be waiting for a long time...
by JustSomeName on Feb 10, 2009 5:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
no chance Monta will be traded. His makes too much and no one knows for sure if/when he will be back to 20ppg form.
by saintdee on Feb 10, 2009 5:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
but in this case
we would be trading a small for a big, and I’d do that every time.
Ain’t going to happen though.
There's a party in my mind.
And I wish that I was there.
by qin on Feb 10, 2009 6:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d rather have maggette off the bench than pay an injury plagued, unenthusiastic davis that’s getting paid more than maggette.
WARRIORS BASKETBALL!!! Patiently waiting for a title...I may be waiting for a long time...
by JustSomeName on Feb 10, 2009 5:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
WOW DUDE
the title of this post got me too excited…i thought it was a done deal, guess not :(
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
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by LostHawk on Feb 10, 2009 5:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
lol yeah whoops
I shoulda put Rumor: “Title”, in the front but I guess the mods here fixed it for me.
by Calamity on Feb 10, 2009 8:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the only reason why we rejected it was cuz we want a big and baron like deandre jordan and baron mw and maggs….how bout jc and maggs 4 bd and camby?
by nateoak10 on Feb 10, 2009 6:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
if we said no to this im going to kill everyone that owns the warriors..no not really but i want to
by gswfan1 on Feb 10, 2009 6:30 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
by the way this is on espn.com, but then again i dont trust most stuff espn writes
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=TradeWatchPG-090210
Baron Davis, Clippers After playing in all 82 games last season and securing a hefty contract from the Clippers, Davis has spent much of the season on the shelf due to tailbone and hamstring injuries.
I doubt Mike Dunleavy would hesitate to move him if he could. In fact, sources insist they’ve already offered him back to Golden State for Corey Maggette. On the right team — a contender — Davis obviously has a lot to offer. But who’s picking up that extra four years and $53 million on his contract? In this economic environment, the Clippers will struggle to find takers.
by gswfan1 on Feb 10, 2009 6:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
yeah i probably should of looked for a link first
But i was just so excited from seeing it on TV that I wanted to post a fanpost ASAP.
by Calamity on Feb 10, 2009 8:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
a HUGE IF
IF Baron came back, would he be the same? Or would he be notoriously lazy and apathetic like he is at the Clips? If he would become the same Baron again, there’s no question here.
by FishStix on Feb 10, 2009 6:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
IFIFIFIFIF
The warriors really rejected this, it is time to end the Rowell/Cohen era, ASAP. ASAfreakingP.
This is absolutely ridiculous. baron still is the face of our franchise, because he’s brought us to the life we wish we still had. When I think of the Warriors, the first guy I think of is Baron Davis.
Maggs has a horrible contract. Maggs has crappy injuries. YOU HAVE TO MAKE THIS TRADE IF IT IS OFFERED. YOU. HAVE. TO.
COME THE FREAK ON WARRIORS .
Sorry to get so emotional, but….I’ve wanted this so badly. We all know it was wrong to let him go, so why would we not take him back, when we have 17 wins!?
by bradyk2 on Feb 10, 2009 6:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Maggs has a horrible contract. Maggs has crappy injuries
Were you meaning to type in Baron Davis has a crappy contract, Baron has crappy injuries?
by pbra17 on Feb 10, 2009 11:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No
My point was Maggs is as injured, as old, and as overpaid as Baron. so that takes away any legit reason to not make this trade.
by bradyk2 on Feb 11, 2009 12:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We didnt let Baron go... he opted out
Then we made the WISE decision not to commit $65M to his broken body over 5 years….
Give it up…. Baron will never get over his injuries and his contract is much harder to get rid of than Maggette’s
by jamis0n on Feb 11, 2009 9:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Maggette has had a hard time getting over his injuries as well..
I’m with Bradyk2… Bring back Baron….
by Mr. Monday Night on Feb 11, 2009 11:03 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly!
Baron = 29 years old.
Maggette = 29 years old.
Baron = Hampered with injuries
Maggette = Hampered with injuries
Baron = Huge long-term contract
Maggette = Huge long-term contract
Baron = Starter
Maggette = 6th Man
Seems pretty obvious to me.
by bradyk2 on Feb 11, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea it does
Why trade for a worse contract?
by pbra17 on Feb 11, 2009 5:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The bottom line is that Corey Maggette isn’t getting traded for Baron Davis and the Warriors will not acquire Amar’e Stoudemire.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 10, 2009 7:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
This is sad
I’m reloading ESPN.com every 2 minutes with the tiniest hope that there will be positive news about a Baron trade.
by bradyk2 on Feb 10, 2009 7:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
i hope the dubs use the offer to get a better trade
maybe:
maggs + mwilliams + watson + wright
for B-david + a big…in maybe a 3 way trade
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
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by LostHawk on Feb 10, 2009 7:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Also
What do you think are the chances that the Warriors are sitting on this trade, waiting to see if they can use Maggs to get Amar’e or Bosh, and then trade him to the Clipps? According to ESPN, not just Bucher, sources are insisting that LAC has offered the trade. Realistically, who, other than the Warriors, would trade for BD? Given his contract, his issues for only playing sometimes, and his injuries, the Warriors really are the only team who would take him off their hands. They’ve got a comparable contract in Maggs, and know that his chances of staying healthy and playing hard greatly improve if he goes back to the bay.
I have a hard time believing that Nellie wouldn’t welcome this trade with open arms, and from what it sounds like, he calls the shots now. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Warriors have every intention of making this trade, and are just sitting on it, knowing it’s safe.
Keeping my fingers crossed. big time.
by bradyk2 on Feb 10, 2009 7:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Did you not watch the end of last season?
When Nellie — unprovoked by Mullin or Rowell or Cohan — benched a healthy, rested Baron while the whole season hung in the balance? Given how precipitously BD’s game seems to have regressed from that point (34% fg??), and his chronic glass jaw, I have a hard time believing Nellie, or anyone else, would feel comfortable guaranteeing him 54 million dollars over the next four seasons.
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by Sleepy Freud on Feb 10, 2009 8:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
he had his bd party the daty before hence the horrible shooting, i just think the clippers are really cursed
by gswfan1 on Feb 10, 2009 8:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The day before what?
His shooting has been horrible all season. Horrible isn’t even strong enough to describe it. Execrable. Abysmal. Abominable. Inexcusable. 35% from the floor, 28% from 3? He’s now played in 38 games this season, and he’s better than 50% of his shots from the floor in precisely NONE of them. That’s really, really hard to do.
Curses, partying, whatever. Baron’s making $13-14 million a year. He should be totally embarrassed.
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by Sleepy Freud on Feb 10, 2009 8:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
my totally irrational take
yea, he should be embarrassed, but I’d still take him back. I know I’m letting the last couple years influence me way too much, but if we’re gonna stick with Monta I really think we need a Baron-type PG next to him and there just arent that many around. And I really think bringing Baron back would be great for team chemistry. Its not gonna salvage the season and we’d still need to find a PF somehow for next year, but I just dont care. I like Crawford as a 6th man/3rd guard relieving both Monta and Baron. I think with CJ, Morrow, Buike and Crawford playing behind Baron Monta and Jackson and Turiaf behind Biedrins we’d really only be a good PF and another rotational big man away from being very competitive. We’d have Wright, Randolph, Belinelli and a high draft pick as pieces to use to fill those two spots. Like I said, I know I’m being overly optomistic about it and totally ignoring Baron’s terrible play this season, but I just dont care.
Baron/Crawford/CJ
Monta/Crawford/Morrow
Jack/Buike/Morrow
(Gaping hole to be filled with draft pick/Wright, Belli, Randolph trade)
Biedrins/Turiaf
"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike
by sam23 on Feb 10, 2009 8:48 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I wouldn't even trade Wright or Randolph...
Wright is an adequate rebounder who has almost an Antawn Jamisonesque way of getting to loose balls… and Randolph has the potential to be a similar type of rebounder, as long as he doesn’t force himself to bring the ball up after the rebound. That team has upset quality written all over it. Chemistry isn’t everything… but its a huge part of the equation. Please make the trade happen
by Mr. Monday Night on Feb 11, 2009 11:14 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i might do it
but the warriors owners sure as hell wouldn’t
by HoLdEmUP on Feb 10, 2009 7:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
the fact is
i really wish we could of kept our 07 roster when we stomped the mavericks that year, but the warriors are looking for a young team and made trades and signings for that. Now they have i say we wait it out until a year or two when the team matures. We have plenty of young talent here, sure we want C.J. and Crawford gone, but i say we wait. Because we are beating good teams right now with an unstable Ellis, no Wright, no Bellineli, and less than standard defence. Lets just wait until next year, but quite honestly i think we have a chance this year. We’re only behind 10 W’s with half of the season left. Call me crazy but I BELIEVE!!!
A bay area lova
by johnnyxboy on Feb 10, 2009 8:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I’d do it, the small chance that Baron could return to form under Nellie again is better than anything else we could trade Maggs for.
"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike
by sam23 on Feb 10, 2009 8:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=165~497~3039~125~194&teams=12~12~12~9~9&te=&cash=
And I’d throw in all the draft picks and cash they want too.
Baron / Watson
Ellis / Morrow / Belinelli
Jackson / Randolph
Camby / Wright
Biedrins / Turiaf
FTW
by YaHeard on Feb 10, 2009 8:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
id do that trade in a heartbeat
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
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by LostHawk on Feb 11, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If the Warriors rejected a trade that would have brought Baron back for Maggs, they are idiots. It all about egos in the front office and the welfare of the team comes second. I can’t stand Rowell. I know he is probably the idiot who rejected the trade if there was ever one. I would give the Clippers Brandon Wright too.
by tig8 on Feb 10, 2009 9:24 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
let it go
Baron is not coming back. It makes no sense for the warriors right now; they have crawford and ellis. They refused to pay Baron this summer, what makes you think that they would take his contract now. That trade wouldn’t do much for us. As much as I love Baron and would welcome him, he is not the player we need right now, unless we can ship a couple guards for a star big. We shouldn’t get baron we should get someone like bosh or stoudamire.
by Agent Zero on Feb 10, 2009 9:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
neither crawford nor ellis
Are PGs. Nor are they late-game changers. nor are they leaders. nor do they average 9 apg. nor do they do this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j01q8A6pqps
by bradyk2 on Feb 10, 2009 10:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHAHA!
Plus Bosh isn’t going anywere and Amare is overhyped….
by Mr. Monday Night on Feb 11, 2009 11:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Baron of ‘06-’08 will very likely never be seen again… the guy’s conditioning went steeply downhill once he got his money, and I don’t think a reunion with Nellie would do much to change that. Corey Maggette, meanwhile, is still a pretty good player. Not as good as Baron at his best, but a good bit better than the current version of Baron. Maggette is not the healthiest player in the league, but he’s certainly a lot healthier than Baron right now, too.
Do we need a point guard? I’m not convinced that we do… if you go by the results from the last six weeks, our offense is fine and dandy, and certainly wouldn’t profit from a dude who shoots 34%. We don’t necessarily need a floor leader — we mainly need more size and better defense, as always. Trading Maggette for Baron would make us smaller. Baron is not quite as bad of a defender as Maggette is, but bringing Baron back gives you that same Baron/Monta backcourt that got lit up so often last year… I don’t think that trade would actually help our defense at all. So if it wouldn’t help our offense, and it wouldn’t help our defense, and we’re taking the riskier, pricier player, what exactly is the point?
The fanboy in me would love to see Baron back, but overall, I’m glad we turned this trade down. It wouldn’t have been worth it.
by onlxn on Feb 10, 2009 11:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I feel like an addiction therapist
watching the addict finally take the first steps toward clean living. When I saw the title of this post I thought the comments would be swamped by B-Dizzle homers whining and whooping. Instead I see a reasoned analysis by many people, allowing for his strengths but not willing to forgive his weaknesses. That’s it, GSOM! Been burned so many times we’ve nothing left but charcoal.
I’m so proud of you guys!by Ormolov on Feb 12, 2009 10:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The sooner everyone lets go...
The better off we will all be. BARON IS NOT COMING BACK TO THE BAY. MAGGS IS NOT COMING BACK TO THE CLIPS. To be honest, I like what Maggs brings to the table. Its something we could have used last year. If we aren’t going to trade for a big, we shouldn’t trade at all. This team is finally starting to gel, guys are getting healthy, I am starting to think this team, without any changes, could be a contender for the 7th or 8th spot next year. Obviously another big man in the rotation is greatly needed, but lately things have been looking up in Dubsland, at the very least we should finish out the season with this roster and know what we have before we tinker more.
by Pearlsofwisdom on Feb 10, 2009 11:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
asdf
PEOPLE!!! PEOPLE!!! can’t we all just get along?
as much as I loved Baron, thinking about his ill advised and sporadic 3’s makes me think more about how bad things could be if he’s not motivated. I think with most of our players stepping up and everyone getting into their own grooves with the team, the warriors can be a good team. it seems that our players have established some chemistry to start winning games.
by jurras1c5 on Feb 10, 2009 11:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
its not that i dont like Baron Davis...
im just used to him being gone already
"Dont come closer. I have rabies."
by TheWarrior on Feb 10, 2009 11:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
i would rather trade jackson and crawford for bd and camby
by montadaboss on Feb 11, 2009 1:06 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
how bout
maggs + mwill + crawford for BD and camby?
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
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by LostHawk on Feb 11, 2009 2:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
by LostHawk on Feb 11, 2009 2:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Brady2K!
Is it my imagination, or did we have a whole exchange on BD that has gone missing from this thread?
IIRC, you started it off with a serving of “what the heck?” (i.e. why would anyone consider not trading Maggs for BD?) and I responded with a volley of “it’s not that compicated,” and we went from there. It was a little heated, if I recall, but certainly nothing personal or worthy of deletion. Was there a flame somewhere that I missed?
Anyway, if anything in it it did come off as personal, obviously I didn’t intend it that way. I always like your posts, even if I often disagree with them. Plus, as one a small handful of posters from the early GSoM days of Giant Webpins and 3-post threads, you’ll always hold a special place in my cyberheart. Go Mike and Ike!
(p.s. — am I the only old-timer here who still misses Option Zero? How I’d love to hear him wax poetic on the awesomeness of Azubuike! Man, he wasn’t always right, but he sure naiiled that one…)
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by Sleepy Freud on Feb 11, 2009 7:22 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Hey Sleepy...
You can get your fix here.
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by olympicmike on Feb 11, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey jae (+ kenntoe, sam, mike, OZ, et al....)
Assuming you’ve been watching UNC hoops this year; and vaguely on the topic of Baron (i.e. our need for a true PG): can you share some brief thoughts on Ty Lawson? I honestly can’t figure out how he can be as low as #13 on Draftexpress’s Big Board. From what I’ve seen of him and from the numbers, he seems like possibly the most projectable player in the draft not named Blake Griffin: tough, super-efficient, lightning quick, great hands/handles, great vision, great attitude, unselfish, a total pest on D… what am I missing? Why would anyone take Earl Clark or Stephen Curry … or heck, even James Harden, over this kid? He may not be the ideal size to pair with Monta at SG, but he seems pretty ideal in every other way. If he’s available in the 7-9 range we’re likely picking, shouldn’t we be all over him?
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by Sleepy Freud on Feb 11, 2009 8:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
patrick mills will be better
by dungeness crabdribble on Feb 11, 2009 8:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha.
Lawson (in the Awesome Coast Conference)
54.5% FG
8.5 ast/36
3.8 ast/to
Mills (in the Weakass Coast Conference)
42.4% FG
4.3 ast/36
1.3 ast/to
Next?
Thing 1
by Sleepy Freud on Feb 11, 2009 9:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I've only seen 4 or 5 UNC games this year
but yea I might put him a little higher than 13. He was very impressive last night,especially. He is a bit small and not a great shooter. Then again, there was another ACC PG who was super quick and had a great feel for the game, but had those same two knocks against him a few years back. He got drafted by the Hornets and seems to have worked out ok. You might be on to something here Sleepy, I’ll definitely be paying more attention to Lawson next game I watch.
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by sam23 on Feb 12, 2009 3:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Great!
why don’t we just trade back for Jason Richardson, Mickael Pietrus, Matt Barnes, Al Harrington, Adonal Foyle, Josh Powell and whoever else the Warriors traded away in the past. We need to stop living in the past and learn to let Baron and those guys go. We’re forced to live with the decisions the front office makes no matter how dumb they are. We need to focus on what’s been hampering us now. Think about it, we have a team full of guards and we’re thinking about trading a small forward for another guard? We’re already smaller than any NBA team ever should be and people want to get even smaller? I know it’s Baron Davis we’re talking about but I’m over him, I may watch him in a couple of movies one day but I wouldn’t mind not seeing him in a Warriors jersey again until maybe he’s about to retire and his contract is on it’s last legs. Right now, rebounding remains our biggest issue with the lack of a true point guard coming second to that. We need to fill the void at the 4 spot first and then worry about getting a pure point guard later.
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by ItsDatFriscoSwag415 on Feb 11, 2009 10:31 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Forced to live with decisions the front office makes?
Is that to say we should’ve kept Dunmurphy and Foyle, because signing them long term was a decision we made?
It’s not living in the past, it’s realizing that we essentially traded Baron Davis for Corey Maggette, and now the FO owes it to the fans and team to admit they made a mistake.
by bradyk2 on Feb 11, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
if hes healthy
and motivated then yes. If hes not then its no use anyway, at least we’ll get production out of maggs
by ilubthedubs on Feb 11, 2009 2:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
trade for baron
we need to get baron back play the rest of the season and then sign odom or some pf free agent then its playoffs or title
by gswarriors925 on Feb 11, 2009 4:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I love Baron but..what, title hahaahaa
just face it, Baron is getting old and he is constantly injured (except for last year,82 games played) having played the whole season last year probably wore him down.
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by V-TownDub on Feb 11, 2009 4:54 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
maybe the front office is waiting
to make the trade and see if the Clips get desperate. Like how we got Baron last time for nothing.
C’mon Speedy and Dale Davis for Baron?
WOW.
by jurras1c5 on Feb 12, 2009 9:50 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Complete BS
Bucher loves making negative stuff about the W’s – and especially Nellie. Somebody in that organization pee’d in his cornflakes about 17 years ago.
there’s NO balance in that trade at all. That’s about as bad as Pau Gasol for Kwame Brown, but at least there were expiring contracts in that deal.
But living in LA and watching Baron play frequently – it’s definitely the bad side of Bdiddy. Hoisting up crap 3’s all the time. He obviously has no respect for Dunleavy, the way he did for Nellie.
by joegiant on Feb 12, 2009 10:47 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Retribution
Eh….it’s probably just Baron’s way of getting back at Dunleavy for having to have played with his son who is garbage….
by kyoung05 on Feb 12, 2009 1:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
Okay well do we need Baron Davis? Look at Maggs hes a great 6th man. I know that Baron was a great leader but hes not exactly what we need right now. But you know we dont need Marcus Williams. And think about it if we had him to start the season he would have gotten injured in December and then we would have a problem having Monta and Baron out. In my opinion I totally miss and respect Baron (AND Matt Barnes) but i dont think we need him.
by JayDeeAye on Feb 12, 2009 10:57 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

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