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I’m interested in your counter-analysis of the points I listed in that interview. I’m up for a good discussion, but low quality comments like this are just spam.

The team is currently 18-35 and just padding their win total with meaningless wins at home, which will most likely result in another late lottery pick. The front office and management of this team is full of drama and incompetence. That’s not a “negative brush”, that’s a brush that paints reality.

If see something else, I’d love to hear it.

by Atma Brother ONE on Feb 12, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The front office and management of this team is full of drama and incompetence.

I agree! Except there’s one thing conspicuously missing here…

by Zack Vank on Feb 12, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Now wins are meaningless? Padding their win total? Now you find a way to devalue wins? All teams play the same

amount of games on the road and at home. The facts are we had the roughest home/away schedule of any team in the league. We played that brutal schedule with half a team injured. Did you take any of that into consideration? Heck no! You just can’t bring yourself to writing about the facts. We finally start playing good ball, get healthy, and get to play some home games for once and all you can do is hammer the team? How about stating some meanigfull facts instead of negative baseless conjecture like your article is filled with. We all have opinions but the facts do not lie. As a fan to be constructively critical is one thing, just bashing for the sake of bashing is something we have Tim Kawakami for. This site is supposed to be for fans of the team. Not Laker fans dressed in sheeps clothing or Kawakami disciples.

by dungeness crabdribble on Feb 12, 2009 2:38 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Appreciate a discussion- this is somewhat getting there
Now wins are meaningless? Padding their win total? Now you find a way to devalue wins? All teams play the same amount of games on the road and at home. The facts are we had the roughest home/away schedule of any team in the league.

Oh I agree 100% with your logic. A win’s a win. I like winning.

But that’s not my point. Each win that the Warriors get right now puts them later in the lottery. There are currently 9 teams in the West that are head and shoulders above the Warriors (possibly the Clips when they finally fire Dunleavy and if everyone gets healthy). The Warriors need something drastic to get into that top 9. Chances are another late lottery pick isn’t going to do it. Did Patrick O’Bryant, Ike Diogu, Brandan Wright, or Anthony Randolph propel this team into the playoffs? I think not. Well maybe POB- just kidding.

How about stating some meanigfull facts instead of negative baseless conjecture like your article is filled with. We all have opinions but the facts do not lie.

Go re-read that piece. There’s plenty of facts. I can’t help you if you aren’t going to address them or directly challenge them. It doesn’t make for a good discussion if you just throw out blanket statements.

As a fan to be constructively critical is one thing, just bashing for the sake of bashing is something we have Tim Kawakami for. This site is supposed to be for fans of the team.

Um, this site is for folks to talk hoops and speak their mind. It’s funny how some random commenter who hasn’t been here that long feels obligated to tell one of the founders of this site what it’s for.

I call it how I see it. It’d be one thing if I were to bash an above .500 team, but I wouldn’t be giving you the truth if I didn’t poke fun and dissect the silliness of an 18-35 team 2 years removed from it’s first playoff run in over 12 years.

Not Laker fans dressed in sheeps clothing or Kawakami disciples.

Riiiiiiiiight. Seeing as how I can’t stand the Fakers or their fans and my buddy Tim and I have disagreed on just about everything this season about the Warriors (aside from Rowell being incompetent) you’re making ZERO sense.

by Atma Brother ONE on Feb 12, 2009 2:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

To be honest, I like a few others have noticed that you’ve been especially negative since Baron left. But that’s another issue entirely and being that we look from the outside in, we just don’t know what happened. The team’s losing after 2 exceptional seasons so it’s expected that fans are going to be pissed. Although I say we don’t know what happened with Baron one fact is that someone messed up in the front office. Agreed that right now it seems like the past is repeating itself with all the bad signings and youth promises but come on. This is a pro basketball starved area and the Warriors are all we got. I’m not going to root for the Fakers so I’m going to look at the bright side a bit more often. We’ve got a good coach, the youngest team in the league, and I’ve just watched them play some really meaningful and smart basketball in the past month. And we all hate Rowell.

Although I do have a bone to pick with you.

Each win that the Warriors get right now puts them later in the lottery…..The Warriors need something drastic to get into that top 9. Chances are another late lottery pick isn’t going to do it. Did Patrick O’Bryant, Ike Diogu, Brandan Wright, or Anthony Randolph propel this team into the playoffs? I think not. Well maybe POB- just kidding.

Granted Diogu and POB are givens but isn’t the rest of that analysis premature? Brandan’s only grabbed regular minutes around December only to separate his shoulder a month later. Randolph is 19. Last I checked it was a family member who went on record about his playing time. I can’t vouch for anyone else, but I’m fairly certain most people realized that he wouldn’t be much help this season the night after he was drafted.

Then there’s the lottery statement and with quotes like that its not hard to fathom that you’re drinking copious amounts of haterade. I don’t know how I’d feel about “drastically tanking” (not to mention the Bulls won the lottery last year with a 1.7% chance) seeing that the reason I pay for cable and Cohan pays his staff and roster are one in the same, to win.

by gunwing54 on Feb 12, 2009 4:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Win or lose I still enjoy watching them play. If they are anything, they are entertaining!

by dungeness crabdribble on Feb 12, 2009 5:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: To be honest, I like a few others have noticed that you’ve been especially negative since Baron left

To be honest, I’ve noticed that the team has especially sucked balls since Baron left.

For those of us that were here for Run TMC + Sprewell + C-Webb just to watch the whole thing implode and then get year-after-year of boring, no-effort, sucky basketball because of the repeated mismanagement by the Warriors front-office, we tend to be a bit more negatve because we’re still here, we’ve done our part by sticking with it and they thank us by repeatedly taking a massive crap on us.

There is also the horrible luck. Losing Arenas because of a loophole in the CBA. Tim Hardaway ripping his ACL which elevated Sprewell to a team leader and helped solidify Webber against Nelson. Unfriendly Lottery balls. Moped.

That’s where the negativity comes from. I started checking out the old Warriors blog because of the Dunleavy hate that I couldn’t get in the traditional media. It’s all I had left as a fan. That and J-rich.

I agree with you on BWright and AR. If they develop properly, they basically solve the Warriors second biggest problem: Power Forward. They’re set all over the wings and they have two good NBA centers. The #1 problem is lack of Superstar which can be addressed in-house by an improved Monta and a developed AR.

Reduce your carbon footprint, commit suicide.

by bloodsweatndonuts on Feb 12, 2009 5:43 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Agreed

I don’t know about superstar. Unless that superstar is named Lebron.

Now I’m not going to reach that far when we still need a real PG and some help from the 4. I’m not even hoping for Amare or Bosh to help, give me Landry or Bass. Hell, recall Richard Hendrix!! 14 and 11, I’ll take that right now.

by gunwing54 on Feb 12, 2009 6:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: But that’s not my point. Each win that the Warriors get right now puts them later in the lottery

This is a crappy draft and this team is loaded with young “talent” that needs to be developed. And by developed, i mean trusted to make good decsions on the court which is necessary in the wide-open system. Unless they get the #1 pick, there’s more value, IMO, in trying to see how good (or bad) this current group is and who needs to go (besides MWil).

Nelson finally has a somewhat healthy team and they are finally using his offensive and defensive systems. All of a sudden the ball is moving around and people are getting wide-open shots and draining them. He’s shortened the roatation down to 7-8 guys. They’re getting into passing lanes and turning steals into fats-breaks. The style suddenly looks like the Warriors of the last two years. We’re basically seeing how this roster will or will not work within the system which will inform offseason personnel decisons.

That, to me, is more valuable than getting the number #5 pick instead of the #9.

The wins are important because then players need to buy into the system and see that it works or they won’t put in the requisite effort to make it work.

BTW: I love Modi’s work. I have some criticisms of his Barry bonds stuff, but his work is absoultely valuable because nobody is writing about the corpratist mythology and latent racism as it pertains to sports reporting.

Reduce your carbon footprint, commit suicide.

by bloodsweatndonuts on Feb 12, 2009 5:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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