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Recap: Warriors 121, Lakers 129 - Further Than It Appeared

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHRIS!!!

 

I can't honestly call this game a heartbreak. Well, don't get me wrong. Every loss is a heartbreak in some shape or form. But for me, the true heartbreaks are the games where we hold a deserved lead right up until the end, only to make a series of small errors that cost us the game.

At first glance, that's what tonight was. Up 4 at the end of the first, up 6 at the end of the half, up 2 at the end of the third, and at some points we even held a double digit lead. From a distant view, we dominated the Lakers, right?

A deeper look at the game, however, shows a team riddled with holes. All the Lakers had to do was stay within striking distance and wait. The time would come when they could exploit our flaws and take the lead at the one time of the game where it would actually matter.

I don't need to tell you exactly when that was, do I?

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Hey hey hey now. Don't go jumping off of any cliffs just yet. We WERE playing the best team in the league. I think it is important for us to not take that little fact for granted. But for the purposes of game analysis, let's put this behind us. Tonight, the Warriors weren't defeated by the Lakers. They were defeated by themselves.

Well, I guess the Lakers had a little something to do with it...

JUMP!!

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Tonight's flaw wasn't exactly our turnovers; or at least, not at first. Looking at the game in total, the Lakers did just as poor of a job taking care of the rock as we did. The real difference came from what the Lakers did with their turnovers versus what we did with ours. Namely, they scored. A lot. On us.

The bottom line is, when the Lakers start converting our careless mistakes into countless easy buckets, it's our responsibility to take better care of the ball. We simply did not do that, and as a result, the second half of this game allowed the Lakers to slowly close the gap, take the lead, and, by the end of the fourth, put us in their rear view mirror.

As amazing as our start was to this game, it's really hard for us to keep up that kind of shooting for 48 minutes. Crawford was shooting lights out, Ronny couldn't miss; our boys were literally draining every three that they threw up. No matter who you are playing, it's hard to not hold a lead after a start like that.The amazing thing was watching the Warriors hold onto that lead for three quarters. They did a tremendous job of turning on the miracle shooting every time the Lakers came within reach. Great to see, but no long term formula for consistently beating the big dogs of the league.

The Lakers stuck to using a few more traditional methods to get their buckets against us. Gasol and Odom were lighting us up from the paint while Kobe was... well, being Kobe. Beyond their big three, we got a good demo of some of their bench depth. Ariza had a couple of back to back daggers to help his team take the lead late in the game - certainly he takes home the Warrior Killer award for the night, and Powell provided yet another force down low on us.

Overall, it was tough. I really wanted to see the Warriors topple the Lakers and, with the way we were playing in the first two and a half quarters of this game, I seriously thought that we were going to do it. There were periods of time where the Warriors could do no wrong! Let's take a trip down bulletpoint lane!

  • Helloooooooo Anthony Randolph. Right about the time he missed three easy layups in one sequence of offensive boards, I thought to myself, "When is he going to learn to put those game time jitters behind him?" He spend the rest of this game giving me my answer. And I found it to be satisfactory.
  • Odom gets a T from the bench? Even Jackson had to be impressed with that.
  • Jamal Crawford was a sniper in the first half. But 4 turnovers in a game where every silly mistake was magnified... Ouch.
  • Monta midrange. He nailed them when it counted. Don't write him off just yet.
  • Turiaf. Beast. Can you believe that with Biedrins on the bench, we're getting treated to an A.R./Turiaf duo of this caliber? The Warriors' inside game is growing right before our very eyes.
  • Jax. Usually I give you a pass on your turnovers due to other positive factors. Not tonight. Some of your turnovers came off of terrible decisions. Great stats otherwise, but no free pass today. Take care of the ball.
  • Maggette - doing it on all fronts. Good showing from him tonight.

And that's that. Don't get me wrong. This team is growing by leaps and bounds. It's just time for us to make the next step. The difference between elite teams and mediocre teams is the ability to make adjustments in game and plug the holes that are costing them to blow leads. We can play. We can score, We just haven't mastered controlling ourselves or managing a lead yet.

They say waiting is the hardest part...

 


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Anthony Randolph baby! Sure he brought a few of his rookie mistakes to the table, but he played an excellent game, even netting a double double along the way. Also, I think he stayed on Odom's back for 8 seconds during that play in the 3rd.

Yippie Ki YYi Yay!

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YA!!

AR def deserved the WW

if he keeps this up this growth…im going to be sooooo stoked for next season…our ‘bigs’ will be pretty darn solid

AR/wright/goose/turiaf

4 excellent forwards if they keep it up!

like ive been saying for a long time, its pretty clear we need to make atrade for a point guard or get someone very solid in the draft…turn overs/rebounding should be improved wit h a good point (a point that rebounds the balls that go outside the paint and takes care of the ball)

anyways…lovin what im seein from teh dubs…just wish we woulda won that and stuck it to the faker fans (i cant believe how many i heard on TV…wish our crowd drowned them out like they used to…)

You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk

by LostHawk on Feb 18, 2009 11:52 PM PST reply actions  

Good game

Warriors at its best. But Lakers got more reserve and scorer off the bench. That’s why they are the best in the league right now. But Im sure we got the laker and faker fans attention specially we are on national TV. When was the last time Laker got challenging game than this since Boston game none. Damn Warriors are short handed Ellis and Jackson almost play the whole game. Turiaf/AR playing with 5 fouls damn Warriors are real good.

by mykelala01 on Feb 18, 2009 11:56 PM PST reply actions  

ARs first Wonder, wooooo!

Yall read jacks postgame interview? Jeez that guys concieded…….eff jack

by 123707THIZZ on Feb 19, 2009 12:01 AM PST reply actions  

link it

You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk

by LostHawk on Feb 19, 2009 12:06 AM PST up reply actions  

It's*

with an apostrophe and a capital I………………………….ugh

by 123707THIZZ on Feb 19, 2009 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

pUNCtuationDOESNTMATTeRoNLySPellING

"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0

by Dubs fan in Boston on Feb 20, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree

He was being a little conceited but he did make some very valid points. He should have gotten rest when Kobe was resting and he did get rest at the wrong times IMO. Also, i think that if what he was saying about how he didn’t use any profabity and blah blah blah to get that tech, that the ref should have just left it alone. I hate how complains and cries all the time, don’t get me wrong, but I didn’t see one veteran official in last nights game. It all looked like much newer refs to me out there and if any of them new Jack, they know he does play with a lot of emotion. Whatever though, if he’s gonna be the leader of this team, he needs to calmn the F down and get back on defense and start taking the blame like a real leader does instead of pointing at other people.

Swagga on a Hundred! Thousand! Trillion!

by ItsDatFriscoSwag415 on Feb 19, 2009 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh Nelly is so smart

What do you know… Randolph and Turiaf do deserve 25+ minutes a game. But You were so stubborn that you could only see that after injuries forced you too.

“It’s just time for us to make the next step. The difference between elite teams and mediocre teams is the ability to make adjustments in game and plug the holes that are costing them to blow leads.”

Exactly… and that’s called coaching, which Nelly is having a hard time doing.

I love Nelly, and everything he’s done for this franchise, but lets all face it….
The Warriors, a young team in desperate need of development, need a new coach. Nelly’s ego is getting in the way of this teams progress, and that just isn’t right.

by Gurthy on Feb 19, 2009 12:02 AM PST reply actions  

+1

the announcers were cool as hell “Why doesnt he play more!?” “Does he have a future in the NBA or what!” Are there still going to be people who hate AR cause they think they have to, cause nelson does?

by 123707THIZZ on Feb 19, 2009 12:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Absolutely agree on the Warrior Wonder

AR’s growth is amazing. I wasn’t sure if he’d mature up and get serious about working and fitting in with the team, but he definitely has. He’s working hard, hustling, doing his job on the floor, and he’s not trying to turn the game into the Anthony Randolph show. AR’s current main weakness still is experience, but that comes with time.

And guess who was frustrating Odom prior to Odom’s on-the-bench T. Yup, AR.

Now, if BWright can show some toughness in his personality and his game, instead of being pushed around like a toothpick, then the front court of Biedrins, Turiaf, BWright, and AR looks pretty good.

by IQofaWarrior on Feb 19, 2009 12:22 AM PST reply actions  

YESS

totally agree on this./..its auto loss/auto heartbreaker

You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk

by LostHawk on Feb 19, 2009 12:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Are we going to have

another open thread for Nellie’s fan call in tomorrow night? I think we should.

by IQofaWarrior on Feb 19, 2009 12:44 AM PST reply actions  

LMAO!!!

He looked so sad when he went back to the bench, it looked like everything he was saying was coming out in a whiny voice, lol.

"Maybe I need somebody that can save me from the parts of myself that keep making me crazy" -Slug-

by drizztismoneybaby on Feb 19, 2009 7:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Jackson closing in on a suspension

Jackson has 15 technical fouls, and you get suspended on the 16th, but one of those T’s was an unsportsmanlike T for hanging on the rim, so Jack’s got 2 more T’s to go before getting suspended for one game.

I’d like to see that happen to see if there’s anyone who can take his place, or if the team can adjust without him. If the team can hold their own without Jack, then Nellie has no reason not to rest Jack more often instead of playing Jack 40+ minutes.

by IQofaWarrior on Feb 19, 2009 2:13 AM PST reply actions  

randolph or buki or magg can all play the 3 imo

You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk

by LostHawk on Feb 19, 2009 2:57 AM PST up reply actions  

The silver lining

Belli will get more burn, I thought he looked good tonight, 2 threes, making good passes and letting the game come to him. I wish he got a chance to play 20-30 minutes a game consistently

"Maybe I need somebody that can save me from the parts of myself that keep making me crazy" -Slug-

by drizztismoneybaby on Feb 19, 2009 7:38 AM PST up reply actions  

hey

did everyone with comcast also loose nbatv like me?

So I don't have a signature well these words would do! Who knew that upgrades can have downgrades too!

by 24k state fan since 87 on Feb 19, 2009 2:29 AM PST reply actions  

man

that was a great game, very close. You couldn’t tell by watching the recap on ESPN though, they didn’t show one Warriors highlight. NOT ONE! Are you kidding me??

by bayareaballa on Feb 19, 2009 5:09 AM PST reply actions  

They Never

Show the Warriors doing anything good

Be yourself, because everybody else has been taken.

by The Dedication on Feb 19, 2009 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I little chunk of my "They Said" sign made ESPN LOL!

Beyond Golden State of Design... and than some!
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by Tony.psd on Feb 19, 2009 7:13 AM PST reply actions  

...I mean Comcast Sports

Beyond Golden State of Design... and than some!
http://www.tonypsd.blogspot.com/

by Tony.psd on Feb 19, 2009 7:14 AM PST up reply actions  

This was a good game

If we can hang with the best NOW, we’re gonna be dangerous with more chemistry and our young guns more developed in the next few years.

Now all we need is a pure point guard. Good thing there’s a nice new crop of ’em in the draft.

by ryogahibiki on Feb 19, 2009 9:09 AM PST reply actions  

I don't get it

I watched the last 10 min. of the game and I was loving it. We were hanging right with the Lakers, despite the turnovers and the spotty play. We were containing the big three and Ariza was the only one scoring. Then Fisher pushed Monta in the back, the call went the wrong way + possession, and the game was put out of reach.

Now I’m never the one to call refs out. I used to BE a ref. But that was how the game was won and lost. I’m really surprised no one on this board isn’t yelling about it. It certainly re-awakened my hatred of Fisher, lying dormant lo these many months. But it also reinforced the perception of Lakers bias in the league. Best team in the NBA? Hmm.

by Ormolov on Feb 19, 2009 9:31 AM PST reply actions  

I’m never the one to call refs out. I used to BE a ref. But that was how the game was won and lost. I’m really surprised no one on this board isn’t yelling about it.

 If you really were a ref you’d know they don’t have the benefit of slow motion replays, they make their calls in real time so get over it. The reason we lost this game is we don’t play the right style of play to be a consistent winner. We rely on luck and having the lower percentage shots fall instead of playing a higher percentage post up game like the lakers did last night. The refs were a big reason we had the lead for so long, they give then they take away but in the end it usually comes down to the better team wins. As long as nellie is our coach we’ll be stuck in this position of wishing and whining cause he don’t understand what it takes to get a ring.

Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 19, 2009 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Fitz and Barnett called the shove from Fisher right away without the benefit of replay. Refs should have caught it; it’s not like it happened away from the ball. The “clear path” call on Maggette was also suspect.

I don’t know if that meant the game or not, but it clearly was missed by the refs.

My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman

by Goofus on Feb 19, 2009 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

It wasn't suspect

It was horrible. Maggette was right in front of Odom when he made the foul.

by disguy on Feb 19, 2009 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Also

The Kobe block included him grabbing the rim illegally too. That was a four point swing because it should have been goal-tending but it was 2 going the other way.

"[Greg] Vaughn is in a funk so deep, George Clinton wearing a miner's helmet couldn't find him."
- Jim Baker, ESPN.com, May 2002

by achiappanza on Feb 19, 2009 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

the lakers won the game because of 2 made 3's by ariza...not low post offense

  That’s just the law of averages, games are not won in the last minutes or the first minutes, the whole thing is what matters. They are stronger inside so they eventually won, we have to play at too high a level of energy and too much luck so it’s harder to win.When the 3’s start falling at a normal rate we are out of it. Everyone knows this, that’s why not many teams play our way.

Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 20, 2009 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Am I the only person who watched Powell last night and got upset all over again wondering why he didn’t get more minutes when Boozer was killing us in the playoffs?

I always thought Powell was an asset that Nellie never took advantage of. Between his and AR doing well when given an opportunity again last night, I was frustrated with the Nellie both past and present edtion.

My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman

by Goofus on Feb 19, 2009 10:44 AM PST reply actions  

hey guys a little observation i made, i cant believe no one else has noticed this lol omg....

sometimes…………AR looks like hes sad lol omg………..i swear lol omg…………

by 123707THIZZ on Feb 19, 2009 11:30 AM PST reply actions  

what the f is going on wit morrow

tell me if i am wrong but he has not played for like the past 15 games or so when he was shooting the 3 at 50% and becoming a decent driver, passer and defender

why has nellie suddenly stopped playing him? did he infer anything in one of his cough interviews *cough or what?

by reppin510 on Feb 19, 2009 11:54 AM PST reply actions  

Monta came back

Now that Marco’s back too. Who knows when he’ll get playing time.

The rotation it appears is Monta-Marco-CJ-Morrow—————————-Marcus

by disguy on Feb 19, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Randolph should have...

played down the stretch instead of Monta. We got killed on the glass and were truly better when Randolph was on the court. Monta hurt us down the stretch. Crawford, Mags, Jax, AR, and Turiaf should have been the crunch time lineup. I kept waiting for AR to check in, but it never happened. Anyone agree?

by 3xdubble on Feb 19, 2009 12:45 PM PST reply actions  

he

was in foul trouble they would of just attacked at him when he was on D knowing he can’t try or else he would be gone. and after watching the replay that out of range jumper he did kinda fueled the lakers

So I don't have a signature well these words would do! Who knew that upgrades can have downgrades too!

by 24k state fan since 87 on Feb 19, 2009 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

THrow fouls trouble

out the window when its te last 4-5 minutes of the game…He might has well have fouled out with 5…they give 6 for a reason

by 3xdubble on Feb 19, 2009 9:28 PM PST up reply actions  

AGREED !

Monta should have spelled a few times tonight and definitely in the fourth.
Crawford, Mags, Jax, AR, and Turiaf would have made a better run.Perhaps even fitting Marco in that group also.As usual Jax played waaay too much tonight and got his usual bitchin with the ref “T” !! Jax should have rested more and Marco or Morrow could have had more PT.
Give Jax some rest Nellie !!

Dr. Jeff

by JEFFSJAZZ on Feb 19, 2009 1:44 PM PST reply actions  

AR for the Warrior Wonder!

I’ve been pretty critical of him but I’m so happy with his performance last night. Especially with the whole going on Odom’s back. That was hella funny. Especially when he just kinda laid there on the ground looking kinda dejected. I know, so mean but the whole situation was just funny :P But what a double double! He HUSTLED out there. Going for rebounds, 2nd chance points. Yee!

by goldenstatelove on Feb 19, 2009 7:10 PM PST reply actions  

Randolph...

was HUGE. I absolutely LOVED his play. That’s a man that plays with passion and is now playing much smarter! LOOOOVE his rebounding and blocks. F’ing awesome.

by Naticus on Feb 20, 2009 1:59 AM PST reply actions  

Patience

The mistakes are to be expected with a team this young, where there’s been no consistency with injuries. The Lakers had to dig deep to grind it out. If AR can mature mentally, he certainly can be a huge piece they need. He has the hops and agility to be a monster on the boards and defensively. They still could use a low post threat of course. … but they have about 3-4 extra talented young wings to deal. They’re in a good spot …just don’t blow it by trading for a player who’ll leave in a year.

by RimLord on Feb 20, 2009 9:03 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Welcome

It’s nice to see such a good read on the situation (and on the prevailing opinion here at GSoM) coming from a new soul. Good post.

"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0

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