RECAP: Warriors 105, Spurs 110 - End to Start
End of Game
Oh man, you've got to be kidding me. How can a game that started with so many positives have resulted in an overtime loss and the possiblility of Monta re-injuring himself?! Not that we should have ever have been in overtime, but man, what a blown five minutes! I can't even think of one positive thing that happened during OT!
3 minutes earlier
Foul number 6. Hit the showers Duncan!
5 seconds before that
Stupid overtime. Stupid Duncan boosting the Spurs out to an early lead. Doesn't he have 5 fouls? How the hell hasn't he fouled out yet?
1 minute earlier
NOOOOOOOO!!!! It's a cramp. It's a cramp. It's a cramp. Please tell me it's a cramp. Please tell me it's a cramp. SOMEONE GET HIM A GOD DAMN BANANA!!! HE'S GOT A CRAMP!!!! It's a cramp... look at the way he's holding it! Silly Monta! You just need potassium...WE NEED A BANANA HERE DAMMIT!!!
2 minutes earlier
Are you kidding me? Overtime?! Did Bowen seriously not foul Jax there? Can we get a red challenge flag? C'mon show the replay there's no way that Bowen didn't touch his wr--- oh crap. That's kind of impressive right there.
Seriously I can't believe this is about to go to OT. We outplay the Spurs for most of this game and play just enough ol fashioned point and shoot Warriors ball to let them right back into it.
I'll tell you one thing. It's going to suck to write the recap on this bad boy if we lose...
JUMP!
Shortly before the end of the 4th quarter
Damn. How the hell did Jackson make that shot?! As ill-advised as it was, it seemed appropriate considering everything else we have seen from him tonight. It's too bad some of his other shots in the fourth are part of what led the game to become this close. But he's hardly to blame; he's certainly done far more good than bad.
4 minutes earlier.
Are we trying to set the world record for longest period of time played without scoring in professional basketball? How long has it been exactly? Maybe someone takes it to the hole for a score? I mean, besides the Spurs. I think allowing them to tie us up this late in the game is enough. We need a few miracle shots.
5 and a half minutes earlier
Ceeeeeeee-Jaaaaaaaay! Everyone has been taking turns tonight and right now it's your baby! A sick behind the back on Hill and 6 quick point on the board? LOVE IT!
20 seconds earler
Damn Hill. You just got schooled by CJ Watson. You can pick your ankles up at Lost and Found after the game.
2 minutes earlier
Wow. I didn't know the ball could rest up on the backboard like that. How are they ever going to get that down? I would throw another basketball at it. Or maybe try to hang on the rim and try to pull myself up and then maybe try to climb on top of the rim halfway so I can maybe kind of reach it if I--- no wait - that's just stupid. Who would even try that? Hey what's Maggette doing? Oh dear god.
2 minutes earlier
Spaghetti Maggette! Back to back jumpers to open the fourth! It would take something pretty stupid in the next couple of minutes to make me forget about that!
End of the third quarter
Did anyone else even score in that quarter besides Manu and Jax?
2 minutes earlier
JAX!!!! Will it ever stop?! 16 points in this quarter alone!
30 seconds earlier
Manu. Please stop. Isn't 17 points enough?
30 seconds earlier
JAX!!! FIERY HOT HAND!
30 seconds earlier
Manu. Seriously. Dude.
30 seconds earlier
HOLY JAX BATMAN!!!
30 seconds earlier
Dude. Manu. Seriously.
(...aaaaaaand you get the point)
End of the 2nd Quarter
Well you can't argue with what we just saw. Jackson had 13 points and 6 dimes, Maggette came in with 9, and we get to head into the locker room up 4 points against a Western Conference elite? I like where this is going. The Spurs look like they have no idea what hit them! Hopefully Jackson can keep up this shooting!
5 minutes earlier
Oh man! Up 6 off a 13-2 run against the Spurs?! The Warriors are playing TIGHT right now! I was impressed enough when we were taking them point for point but to open up a lead like this?! I'll take it!
5 minutes earlier
Where did this crazy post game come from with Jackson? He's taking fools to the hole like his name is Baron! Don't get me wrong; I dig! Just not an aspect of his game that we get to see that often.
End of the 1st Quarter
OOOOOOHHHHHHH!!!! Who else but Monta could hit a leaping last second three pointer to bring us within two at the close of the first?! Man that would be great if we turned that into a momentum swing for us in the next quarter. Man I love watching Monta. I'm so glad he's back. I hope he never gets injured again.
3 minutes earler
SEE?? Told you!
30 seconds earlier
Okay at what point do we start double teaming Duncan? If we keep letting him post up Beans they're going to go right back to him again and he's going to grab an easy bucket... AGAIN!
3 minutes earlier
Wow it's like the Parker and Duncan show here. I bet they combine for 55 points with 7 dimes from Parker, and 15 boards from Duncan. I'm just sayin'.
Start of the 1st quarter
Whooooo! Nice first cut by Monta! Looks like this is going to be a fun game to watch! I love Monta. I hope he never gets injured again....
Tough not to give it to Jackson on this one. 33 points, 11 dimes, 5 boards and 4 steals? He was getting it done on ALL ends of the floor tonight. Would I have liked to see better choices of shots down the stretch or less turnovers? Sure! But don't let that take away from what he did accomplish tonight.
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What I didn't understand
was why Biedrins and Buike were put in so late. Yes they had foul trouble but they weren’t even put in until way into overtime (esp. Buike…in with like just a few seconds left). IDK..just my opinion..
At least this game wasn’t a buzzer beater or a win in triple OT.
by goldenstatelove on Feb 2, 2009 11:57 PM PST reply actions
AARGH.
Tough one. I mean, you could argue that games like this are ideal for the team’s current situation — they demonstrate that they’re improving without hurting our lottery chances. But I really, really wanted that one. That SUCKED.
Monta (ESPN is saying he sprained the ankle, and let’s hope it’s a simple sprain) had his best game since returning. No, he’s not all the way back yet, and no, he’s not really looking like a point guard, but he had some nice moves, some nice dishes, and rebounded and defended well, which was nice to see. Jack was obviously excellent. Crawford had maybe the most unnoticeable 47-minute performance you can have… I had no idea he was in there that much. One of the weaker Maggette performances in a while.
Not to go all nelliehater here, but there was too much smallball tonight. Yes, it was very effective at times… tonight was one of those nights where it made sense to bust it out for stretches. But it stopped giving us any offensive advantage partway through the second half, and at that point, it should’ve been shelved. Biedrins, who was very effective whenever he was in, played 22 minutes out of 53. That’s ridiculous. Foul trouble alone can’t explain that… he never got his fifth foul, let alone his sixth.
A strong effort, no question, and if you remove the Dallas game from your mind, the Warriors have been playing some fairly respectable ball for awhile now. Here’s hoping Monta’s more or less all right.
Part of Biedrins not playing that much
was that Ronny was playing great. He was bodying TD up a lot of better than AB was. And IMHO, a lineup with both bigs can’t be played too long for any one stretch – there’s usually not enough offense.
I agree that that’s why Biedrins sat for so long, but I think it would’ve been worth trotting out both bigs together for at least a little while late, when we were getting slaughtered down low. Would it’ve been an offensive problem? Possibly. But it would’ve been worth finding out.
Andris Biedrins is, quite possibly, our best player. You don’t sit your best player for 60% of a game because of matchup subtleties… it’s not like Biedrins couldn’t handle the flow of the game. Keep Ronny on Duncan if you like, but get your best guys in the game. Worry about the offense sputtering if and when it happens.
Chalk that one up Nellie
Rotation consistency has been a real problem with him and don’t think that’s his only problem.
Big ups!!... to all my haaaaterrrrrss!
by ItsDatFriscoSwag415 on Feb 3, 2009 9:10 AM PST up reply actions
I think it would’ve been worth trotting out both bigs together for at least a little while late, when we were getting slaughtered down low
Yeah, especially when we had the big lead, two of them might act like a good stopper. I’d play them both till the lead got down to about 4 points then go back to the scorers if necessary.
Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 3, 2009 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
Upon furthur thinking
I wonder of Crawford was thrown out of his game tonight because he’s been assigned point guard duties? I always thought he had potential to be good, at least on offense. I know everyone says his defense is bad, but I can’t strongly agree or disagree since I haven’t watched his defense much.
Anyway, the two moments that pissed me off the most was the flop call at the end of the 4th, obviously, and the moment when Jackson was arguing with the refs AND THE PLAY WAS STILL GOING. Had he turned around, he could have moved into position for a rebound and/or a put back. For god’s sake, you’re playing the Spurs. You can’t be undisciplined and give up on opportunities like that if you want to win.
Don’t the coaches tell Jack to shut up and keep playing? I know Jack does a lot of good things, but they end up getting negated by dumb things like that. I find it ironic that people say Randolph has an attitude of entitlement, which I agree, but Jack shows the same thing on the floor. He feels he’s entitled to every foul call, complains about it, and in the process, hurts his team. What kind of example does that set? I would LOVE to see Jack tell AR to quiet down, and then see AR tell Jack “Well you do it during the game”. That would be a HUGE wakeup call on Jack.
oh my god, i was flipping out at jack
That was by far the worst tantrum hes’ thrown and an awful example of a team player. He walked out of the paint, almost having to dodge the ball, so he could go argue. Its getting ridiculous
seriously!
He always complains. You’re not gonna get respect like that. I hate how he walks back on defense after he doesn’t get his call while everyone is sprinting back to play defense. I got up out of my seat and was yelling at the TV after I seen him cry about the play. It’s terrible. He’s a really good player but he always lets his emotions get the best of him and he makes some really stupid decisions a lot of the time.
Big ups!!... to all my haaaaterrrrrss!
by ItsDatFriscoSwag415 on Feb 3, 2009 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
Great movie.
"Monta is the MAN." -Bob Fitzgerald
by WarriorForLife on Feb 3, 2009 2:45 PM PST up reply actions
That gift wrapped trip to the line for Manu was absolutely ridiculous.
It doesn’t even matter if the officiating was good because it was all thrown out the window and wasted by one bad call near the end. Thanks refs.
LA game from last season all over again
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
that 10-0 run the spurs went on to close out regulation
was the real problem, wouldn’t you say? can’t blame the officials for that.
the stop calling him "beans" movement
by pervisNeverNervous on Feb 3, 2009 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
definitely
They locked us up on defense and they got in the lane at will against our defenders. 3 point play here, 3 point play there couple more easy baskets and they get right back in the game. We were up by 12 with like 8 minutes left but turnovers really hurt us and they kept attacking. But hey, there was no foul on Ginobli though. That was a huge call that tied the game and you know the rest of the story.
Big ups!!... to all my haaaaterrrrrss!
by ItsDatFriscoSwag415 on Feb 3, 2009 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
I would say that precedent had been established
by the refs that anytime Manu or Parker hits the lane it is an automatic foul, and that contributed heavily to the 10-0 run. What say ye?
by Nuck Chorris on Feb 3, 2009 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
i didn't have a problem with any previous calls
the W’s defense letting manu or parker drive the lane, i do have a problem with, however. was the call questionable? certainly. but there were a series of events that led to the tying free throws, (turn overs, poor defense, poor rebounding, wasted offensive possessions, etc) and that those factors also deserve a part, or more of the blame.
the stop calling him "beans" movement
by pervisNeverNervous on Feb 3, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions
Duncan...
Stupid overtime. Stupid Duncan boosting the Spurs out to an early lead. Doesn’t he have 5 fouls? How the hell hasn’t he fouled out yet?
I feel like I say this EVERY time I watch a Spurs game. Hasn’t he fouled out yet? How can he still be in the game? I remember a Spurs/Suns game a few years back. Can’t remember if it was regular season or playoffs, but this game also went into OT. I remember Duncan called for a charge in the OT and thinking oh he’s gotta be getting close to 6. I checked the boxscore and it was his 1st freakin foul. Are you kidding me? A center in the NBA, who played of 40 mins, picks up a grand total of ZERO fouls in regulation during a hotly contested game???? What made it worse, was that cheap-shot Bruce Bowen also played over 40 mins that night and also finished with only 1 foul called on him.
I hate the Spurs
by 7Swords of Salat on Feb 3, 2009 2:44 AM PST reply actions
oops...
sorry, forgot to end the quote. should have read:
Stupid overtime. Stupid Duncan boosting the Spurs out to an early lead. Doesn’t he have 5 fouls? How the hell hasn’t he fouled out yet?
I feel like I say this EVERY time I watch a Spurs game….
by 7Swords of Salat on Feb 3, 2009 2:48 AM PST up reply actions
Nellie's ISO call with...........
8 secs left was soooo predictable. I swear I was sitting there saying please don’t give it to Jax for a forced leaner. Can someone explain to me why Nellie isn’t smart enough to think that an ISO between Jax and Bowen (known for his great defense) will never never get you a call in the final seconds!!! Even Jax knew he isn’t good enough to get those calls!!!
I would have preferred Monta getting the ball and taking a mid-range jumper over Parker then what we got.
Nellie SUX.
or how about..
getting the ball to Maggette and winding the clock down a little bit before he bursts towards the rim and most likely picks up a foul. (a real foul, not the little touch foul that Jack was complaining about) Refs are not gonna call that at the end of the game unless it’s an obvious foul. But yeah, I probably would put it in Monta’s hands or even Crawford (although he had a bad shooting night) because they have a better chance of creating a better shot. Jack played awesome but he couldn’t even get a shot off. That game was extremely dissapointing to say the least!!
Big ups!!... to all my haaaaterrrrrss!
by ItsDatFriscoSwag415 on Feb 3, 2009 9:17 AM PST up reply actions
crawford doesnt care if he plays bad all game
he is mr clutch!
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
true that
Crawford could get his shot off whenever he wants. Warriors looked good though, they controlled the game for most of the night and played some pretty good D by forcing a lot of turnovers much like the game in New Orleans. They just fell flat at the end.
Big ups!!... to all my haaaaterrrrrss!
by ItsDatFriscoSwag415 on Feb 3, 2009 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
Y'all are fair weather fans of "clutchness"
How many times has Jax clutched us into a late game lead change? Most recently, he went toe-to-toe with LBJ dropping 2 consecutive final minute lead changers. Granted, LBJ made a sick shot at the end with no time on the clock, but saying we should have given the ball to Crawford instead of Jax is crazy. Jax is just as clutch as Crawford, if not more so. Bowen is old, very old. There’s a reason his minutes have dropped by 35% this year: he’s not the defender he used to be. Isolating Jax (who was having a good game) on Bowen is a solid play. Jax just didn’t do enough to get the call or make the bucket. He needs to go to Manu/Maggette/Wade school.
"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0
by Dubs fan in Boston on Feb 4, 2009 6:30 AM PST up reply actions
another heartbreaking game
when does this season end already? i can’t take these losses. For sure were not making playoffs anymore now. All i’m looking forward to now is to see who we trade for. I know the rest of the league knows we have dangerous role players waiting to make some playoff teams bench even deeper. Morrow/Belli/Bukie/Wright + Maggs/Crawford/Jax
I don't think Jack deserve the warrior wonder.
If he’s a leader he’s showing too much carelessness in having a T at almost every game. It sad that I say this, but I hope he gets suspended to realize how much of an impact he will hurt the team.
But players like that (what? get heat in the moment?) don’t ever learn. Just like how he drives to the basket and anticipates a foul call every time. Who are you? CP3? Corey even? No, you’re stupid.
He should learn to drive from the side. (if that even helps) And he should superglue his mouth shut.
+1
im tired of jack playing like a fool, then hitting a couple “they went in, but those waere a stupid shots” and everyone forgiving him. I was in Awe of him giving up on a play mid rebound, and walking out of the paint, so he could go yell at the reff
Players were tired
I blame being tired, which caused the TOs and some bad decisions.
We miss having marco/bwright backup the starters, since nellie doesn’t trust the rest of the bench much. Why wasn’t morrow on the floor when we needed a 3 to keep us in the game at the end? JC was cold and didn’t play well.
Also, no ball movement, no kick and drive,hell, no driving at all.
But, we almost beat a much better team. We just need to improve a bit (less TOs damnit!) and get back our pg marco and we will be a better team.
Yes
Marco Belinelli will solve all our problems. It’s so simple!
"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0
by Dubs fan in Boston on Feb 3, 2009 10:01 AM PST up reply actions
He will help
He has shown that he can move the ball. Never said he would sole all the problems!
btw, could you send some of that cold boston weather to the bay area? We need some rain!
My Warrior Wonder
Goes to Ronny Turiaf. I only caught the end of the game, but he was playing some great D. Turiaf’s a more athletic Adonal Foyle with a jumpshot!
With him in the game instead of Biedrins the Warriors aren’t nearly as soft down low on defense. They do lose a ton of rebounding and put-backs, but I’d like to see Turiaf on the floor more. Ronny brings something that no other Warrior player does right now. He’s just got to stay out of foul trouble.
by Atma Brother ONE on Feb 3, 2009 10:01 AM PST reply actions
+1
Ronnie is a true warrior. He lays it all on the line every night. I say play Turiaf/ Biedrins at the same time more often and let the guards score for the most part. That would help with our rebounding woes a whole lot. Those two guys have a real good chemistry with one another too. I think they can form a pretty tough inside defensive presence.
Big ups!!... to all my haaaaterrrrrss!
by ItsDatFriscoSwag415 on Feb 3, 2009 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
id like to see ronny + biedrins in at the same time!
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
That will only work
Once bwright is back and we have another big to help out (AR or some trade) to keep the foul trouble down.
The one problem turiaf has is taking too many jump shots.
There were two questionable turnover calls in the 4th, or at least they looked questionable to me, that went for the Spurs. At the time, I said “don’t let cause you to come unglued.” From that point on, the offense changed from something that seemed to get guys good looks to winding down the clock in order to get a terrible look. The lead evaporated.
Turiaf played a pretty good game. Biedrins should have played more though. The small lineup with Maggs and Jax as the ‘frontcourt’ when Duncan rested worked in the first half, but in the second, it didn’t do as well. Rotating in Biedrins instead of going back to that in the second half would have made some sense, if either to force San to bring Duncan back in -he might have fouled out when it mattered- or to see if Andris could work something against the Spurs second unit. For what it’s worth, the excuse that Biedrins sat for foul trouble is bogus. He had 1 foul in the first and had three total when he sat in the 3rd. Thee fouls at the mid point of the 3rd is not ‘foul trouble’, certainly not enough to pin him to the bench until overtime.
For the most part, a well played but horribly managed game. (Nelliehater, you’re up here.)
For the most part, a well played but horribly managed game.
I guess from the Warriors standpoint is was a well played game but the 20 or so spurs turnovers were frustrating. If good teams play like crap against us we can never know what our real talent level is. I’d like to see us get to a point where we can beat them at their best game and not be surprised about it
Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 3, 2009 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
Beat them at their best game and not be suprised about it
When was the last time the Warriors were able to do that? Even last year with Baron and Al, it was a HUGE surprise to beat the Celtics and the Lakers the times that we did.
We still believe!!
I don’t think the turnovers were just a matter of the Spurs playing down to the competition. I think the defense had something to do with it. No, not the Spurs best game, but it was well played by the Warriors for about 43 minutes.
by jae on Feb 3, 2009 2:55 PM PST up reply actions
Exactly
I don’t know why I continue to watch Warrior games. Maybe it’s just becaus I’m a basketball fan to begin with. I mean I know we’re not that good of a team, but I also don’t think we’re that bad. Refs just hate us. Now I know how the Raiders feel. Oh well I guess I just watch to support the Warriors even though I know the refs do what they can to make sure we lose.
Am I the only one...
who thought Monta played inexcusable defense? I understand his conditioning is a work in progress, but I counted a number of blatant defensive errors on his part. Two of them I will ilustrate below:
1. Turning his head when he and his man (Parker) were the ONLY two people under the basket and in the paint – Monta lost his man while staring at the ball and allowed a point blank lay-in from Parker off the feed from the high-post from Duncan. He wasn’t even screened off the play here, he just fell asleep mentally and did not keep himself between Parker and the ball.
2. A brush screen at the free throw line bumped Monta so far off his man (Parker, again) that he actually stopped to gather himself while Parker quickly caught a pass from Ginobli and slashed – uncontested – to the rim for a lay-up.
There were also several lazy passes towards the end and a few mental lapses, but I can contribute those to mental and physical fatigue. I don’t want to be too hard on Monta since he is just back, but he needs to shape up quickly if he expects to earn the minutes he is having shoveled on him by The Don.
All in all, another heart-breaking loss in a season of ache and pain.
Officially on the Anthony Randolph tip
by tobin on Feb 3, 2009 3:48 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
don't forget to mention
he was trailing parker or maybe hill one time and he ran into jamal crawford and knocked his own man down. he’s only four games in but that still is inexcuseable. he needs to keep his head in the game and get focused. I’m confident that he’ll get back to his original form but he should take this time to learn how to play the game in a more methodical fashion if he isn’t fully there yet. I’d like to see him play smarter basketball. no more walking the ball up the court and getting 8 second violations like in Houston, and no more falling asleep on defense. He needs to find other ways to be effective while he is not fully recovered.
Big ups!!... to all my haaaaterrrrrss!
by ItsDatFriscoSwag415 on Feb 3, 2009 4:23 PM PST up reply actions
in Nellie's system, the vets (including Monta) don't earn minutes.
They’re hand to them on golden plates.
Monta is a step behind
You are correct. Based on how he has passed up opportunities to dunk I think this lack of defense is a sign that he is not 100% and he is taking his time to get into the swing of things since
1)there is no way to make the playoffs
2)he isnt 100% so why risk further injury
He just isnt going to play all out this season. You could argue this is a bad move considering his paycheck and the love he gets from fans, but he might as well shut it down for the season and coast.
Wow
I was hoping for Maggs to make those free throws, but Monta or Jax made up for on the next possession. Out of all the calls, Ginobili’s so far has pissed me off the most. He did basically just fall down on his own accord. I like how he played cool after, heh. What a moron.
monta shouldas tookthe laz shot
if hed sink he wouldnt have remessed up the ankle an we woulda won…but of course nellie iis predictable
I think Denver Nuggets owe us one
Ginobili has a bruised hip, so he sat out. Tony Parker and Tim Duncan were given the night off after playing us into OT, says the ESPN recap. Were those two really given the night off because of us? I’d like to think so. :)
W's need to suck it up in end
They played the victim at the end after the phantom foul on Manu. They have had trouble getting their heads straight in the face of a little adversity. Captain Jack needs to brush him self off after missing that shot and stop complaining. After he walked to the bench with his head down, it was evident that it was over. The W’s need to fight with the right type of emotion…I think players like Maggette and Monta can give them that (I just don’t think either are fully comfortable with their roles with the team yet).

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