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RECAP: Warriors 105, Clippers 118: 2 Warriors Fan Mantras

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Raise your hand if you thought the Warriors were going to blowout the Clippers. I raise my hand. My 23 point loss to the Warriors-South was a joke. I really thought they were going to blow out the Clippers.

Now raise your hand if you thought the Warriors were going to win tonight (keep my hand up there and see a bunch of people join me).

Those of you with your hand raised (it's hard to type with one hand), we must all repeat 2 Warrior fan mantras before each game to avoid making silly predictions like these. The 2 Warrior fan mantras of the '08-'09 season that any die hard fan should never let slip from his or her mind. These 2 mantras should be shouted from the rooftops as a warning to others, whispered every night before bed, and written on the walls of the Oracle.

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'08-'09 Warrior fan mantra #1: The Warriors are a bad defensive team.

It's an obvious statement right? Anyone who watches them can tell that they're a bad defensive team. All those people except one of the guys who sits courtside and broadcasts every game. Why do I have to sit and listen to Fitz keep telling me how the Clippers are shooting well above and beyond their normal 3 point shooting rate? I now know that the Clippers average around 6 three's per night and are the 25th best 3 point shooting team at 35%. Tonight, the Clippers made 13-24 three's (54%). I don't mind Fitz telling me that they're shooting so much better than their average. I do mind that is all he says. Maybe tell the viewers why you think this is happening. Maybe tell the viewers what you think the Warriors should do to stop it. All I'm saying is, I wish Fitz would provide some objective commentary. The homerism is making Warrior fans soft. It's the Warriors fault the other team is having a great night from 3.

This hot shooting has more to do with the Warriors lack of D than the Clippers being hot. How many open looks did Eric Gordon get? Way too many. Somebody put a hand up. His 3's seemed to come on the drive and kick. Baron probably beat his man off the dribble, the defense sucked in, Gordon moved to an open spot, Baron found him, launch and swish. It starts with the on the ball D and ends with the help D. You don't need to leave Eric Gordon to triple team Baron in the paint.

One of Baron's 3's came when everyone knew he was going to take it, except Stephen Jackson apparently. I guess playing together for the past 1.5 years didn't mean anything. He hit 1 three in the first quarter and then came right back down and hit another one. Those 2 shots sparked a Clipper comeback and it was pretty much all downhill from there for the Warriors. Game changing 3 because of lazy and forgetful defense.

Other defensive problems:
- Marco got benched for the rest of the night because of one boneheaded play. Marco was supposed to be the last man back but Mardy Collins slips by him and the long outlet pass hits Mardy for the uncontested layup. Marco wasn't even within 20 feet of the guy. That should NEVER happen.

- The Clippers shot 51%. This is the worst shooting team in the league at 43% per night. They are also the worst team in the league in terms of points per shot. Now how does a team that shoots so poorly normally make over half their shots? Was it because they changed their offense or were just making some lucky shots? No, I don't think so. Must have had something to do with the "defense" the Warriors were playing.

 

 


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'08-'09 Warrior fan mantra #2: The Warriors are an average home team, but a BAD road team.

I was fooled by the recent streak of solid, inspired basketball. They were 5-4 in February prior to this game. All but one of those games was at home (the road game ended up in a loss to PHX). The "hot streak" saw an OT loss to the Spurs, blowout wins over the Suns, Jazz and Knicks, and a comfortable win against the Blazers. They were playing so well. The offense was flowing. The defense was, well, there. The wins were coming and they were competing even against the best teams.

But I forgot that they're still a BAD BAD BAAAAD road team. 15-13 at the Oracle. 5 and 24 on the road. 5-24. 5 wins. 24 losses. Right now the only team with more road losses than the Warriors are the Kings with a 27 losses. There's just no sugarcoating how bad the Warriors are on the road. But just for fun let's try. In the majority of those 24 losses the Warriors were without all of their best players. So imagine how much better they'll be next year when everyone is back healthy. Remember, this is the youngest team in the league!

In all seriousness, the Warriors are going to have to learn how to win on the road in order to have a chance of making the playoffs next year. It's always tough to win on the road when you don't play defense and can't get stops to make the crowd shutup. By the way, was there even a Clippers crowd there? I barely heard anyone.

How many more wins on the road do you think the Warriors get this year? 13 games remaining. I'd say 2, maybe 3. Take a look at the schedule.


If there's anything you remember from this season, remember this: Monta cost us the season, I mean, remember these 2 mantras.

 


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Miscellaneous Thoughts
- Being the youngest team in the league sucks. Being the youngest team in the league without a guy to really get excited about is depressing.

- 18 turnovers? How many of those were the careless, dribble-off-of-my-foot variety? 5-6?

- Turiaf was the key to the hot start. Lots of energy on defense and was fighting inside. Banged around with Randolph and hustled for every loose ball.

- Are you sure you don't want to trade for Baron Davis? Dude nearly had a triple double and looked good doing it. I'm sure he played harder against his former team than he had all year, but damn we could have used some of that this year. It reminded me of the Baron all Warrior fans knew. He can create for others. He can get a big bucket when you need it (even if it is a bank). He can control the game. We're missing the guy who can just take control of the team and the game. Baron has that quality. Imagine if that was Baron kicking it out to Morrow instead of Gordon for 3's. Or Baron dribbling through the lane for the bucket. He tried tonight. You could tell he wanted to play well, and he did.

 

 

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That dude in the Biedrins jersey they kept showing during the telecast sitting right behind the Warriors bench. Only if that #15 jersey was a Spree jersey instead of a Beans jersey.

Naw, I'll give it to Baron Davis for his almost triple double. He's still a Warrior, wants to be a Warrior, and should still be a Warrior.

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god damn

cj singlehandidly brought us back then killed us.His no defense on Eric Gordon killed us. Same with Mags jumpers toward the end. Turiaf with costly turn overs.

Way to go nellie. Small ball sure worked.

by saintdee on Feb 24, 2009 12:50 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

We were due for this loss

We’ve whooped on the Clippers 5 straight times, and they got their a$$es handed to them the previous 3 games before this.

by Golden Boy on Feb 24, 2009 12:51 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Good teams are "never due for a loss."

Too bad we’re not a good team…..yet.

"Monta is the MAN." -Bob Fitzgerald

by WarriorForLife on Feb 25, 2009 4:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Screw Baron Davis and his one good game this season

Sorry, he had two (including the first time he faced the W’s).

by Jeffo on Feb 24, 2009 12:53 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

baron is the man

i reallly dont get why people wouldnt have wanted that maggs + mwill for baron trade….would have been amazing for us. We NEED a PG like baron, he fits our system better than most PGs in the league…maggs doesnt fit our system in any way….and mwill….is mwill, never gunna see the light of day on this team!

regardless of barons work ethic, i really think on our team he would do significantly better, motivationally and otherwise…on dunleveys team he is too micromanaged and have a half court offense….

personally, i woulda taken even the CHANCE of baron playing well with us than keeping maggs…the stat wh*r%. maggs would fit great in a half court offensive team, not the dubs (regardless of his numbers…he numbers arent helping us win any road games are they? NO)

BRING B.D. BACK!

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Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk

by LostHawk on Feb 24, 2009 9:25 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Because their is only one PG like Chris Paul,

and he was drafted before we could think about getting him.

We will probably need to be patient and let this season play out.
-warriorsvictim

by warriorsscore110 on Feb 24, 2009 11:13 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I personally don't want it

Because Baron will never be as “healthy” as he was last year again, unless it’s his contract year. Just like it was last year.

by Golden Boy on Feb 24, 2009 11:36 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This team is collectively mentally weak

This team plays better at home because the Warriors are comfortable here. But as soon as they head out on the road to face adversity, they get uncertain. They don’t know what to do when they face challenge. They don’t have that collective identity and killer instinct to stand up for themselves, to be stronger than their opponent, to want to overpower their opponent, to want to BEAT them.

I think that was most evident in that first quarter when they got the big lead so easily, and then they let up. They got complacent. They didn’t finish the Clippers off. They didn’t destroy their will. They were TOO NICE.

And I’m STILL pissed at this loss. Someone please make me feel better.

by IQofaWarrior on Feb 24, 2009 12:56 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Someone please make me feel better.

 Look outside, it’s sunny!

Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 24, 2009 11:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Baron Davis

I can see it coming already. Perhaps, not just here, but even on a flock of diaries in the coming days. But before anyone goes on a “we should’ve traded for Baron” rampage. Put this into perspective:

Kyle Weaver 19pts 5 reb 6-9 shooting
Josh Powell 16pts 7reb 5-6 shooting
Nate Robinson 30pts 6reb 12-22 shooting

That’s just recent games. Go through the whole season, and you can see a lot of superstar performances by players who only gets called up to play the Warriors.

by lightz0ut on Feb 24, 2009 1:02 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Worth watching?

I have it on DVR….was busy with homework.

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by disguy on Feb 24, 2009 1:02 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

The best part is the 1st 8 minutes or so

after that’s it’s mostly downhill, although they put in a valiant attempt in a comeback that fell short.

by IQofaWarrior on Feb 24, 2009 1:14 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

that sums it up nicely

that first 8 minutes was very nice basketball but then the first quarter ended in a tie at 27-27 even after the Warriors seemed to be in full control! that game sucked! Fred Jones sucks…how the hell did he kill us? Ricky Davis and Mardy Collins suck! Eric Gordon is sick but he was cold the whole night then he started to kill us. Baron is not the same Baron that we all knew but somehow he manages to almost get a triple-double. Randolph, Zach Randolph I mean, is a beast on the offensive end so he’s an autoamtic killer especially after serving his 2 game suspension. Camby………how the hell did that 3 point shot go in? I don’t know who has an uglier shot…him or Shawn Marion? But somehow it was falling last night! ugggggggggghhhh!

I hop up out the bed, turn my swag on and then do the stanky leg...yeaaaaahhh I'm gettin' Arab money!!

by ItsDatFriscoSwag25 on Feb 24, 2009 9:31 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

damn

we really suck. How the hell we lose to the paper clippers.

by warriorfan4life on Feb 24, 2009 1:03 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

i was at the game

and it was really really sad. I don’t know how exciting they made it look on tv or whatever, but there was zero intensity during the whole game. When baron made those 3s it got kinda loud, but by loud, i mean like my neighbors get loud and i get slightly annoyed but don’t really care. The crowd was a nonfactor, and i really get why baron doesn’t feel motivated or even try. He’s a player that feeds off the energy of his team and spectators. It was unsettling, it almost felt as if the team was there for a scrimmage or something. Makes me which i was back at the oracle….(effin so cal). I will admit, however, that eric gordon is a great basketball player, although he’s got a swagger that a player should never have on the clippers. If you’re a great rookie and have confidence, but you’re on the clippers, you should be frustrated not cocky. But hey, i guess as a rookie he’s making the most of it, and hats off to him, he killed us tonight.
Worst part of the game- thinking Turiaf sprained his ankle
Best part of the game- seeing Turiaf come back in.
Most confusing- Jackson going for 20 in the first half and 8 in the second (don’t quote me on these stats). Ohhh wait, that’s not confusing at all.

by amhd388 on Feb 24, 2009 2:05 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

= a gagillion to the last part

thats not confusing ever watched a warriors game?

trade Jackson!!!!!!

by gswfan13 on Feb 27, 2009 8:34 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

a new level of excellence

was acheived by Nellie. It takes a special coach to lose to Dunleavy Sr. Very few coaches have done it. Nellie should be very proud of himself and the way he manages the team’s assets in such a small and effective way. What is really cool is we now have a real rival in the West we can continue to compete against for the last spot in the division and highest draft pick. Yes, it is a great time out.

CWebb is undoubtedly the answer but I forgot the question.

by commish on Feb 24, 2009 6:46 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

We got spoiled the last couple of years as a borderline playoff team,

back to the good times, of our wins in the 20’s. Yes It is indeed a great time out my friend.

We will probably need to be patient and let this season play out.
-warriorsvictim

by warriorsscore110 on Feb 24, 2009 11:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Raised both hands

It finally sinked in just now after I woke up.

The Cliiipperss??!!

Kelenna is mine...;>

by girltothemax on Feb 24, 2009 7:36 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

lol.

if you look at their team, it’s actually pretty strong.

randolph/camby/baron/gordon/thornton that’s a nice lineup right there.

if they keep it together they might just be contending for a playoff spot next year.

by jchao204 on Feb 24, 2009 2:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Gotta stay healthy.

"Monta is the MAN." -Bob Fitzgerald

by WarriorForLife on Feb 25, 2009 4:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe it's just me

but Beans seemed just awful! No impact whatsoever.

by flaaron on Feb 24, 2009 7:47 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

well he did just back from injury

so that maybe the reason….umm…

ok i gotta go to school now.

Kelenna is mine...;>

by girltothemax on Feb 24, 2009 8:02 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

let the rust knock off, he’ll be back to his old self

"Maybe I need somebody that can save me from the parts of myself that keep making me crazy" -Slug-

by drizztismoneybaby on Feb 24, 2009 8:42 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i gotta go to school now.

 don’t forget your lunch :>)

Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 24, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

HELLO KITTY !!!!!

Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 25, 2009 8:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

haha that's so cute!

Hello Kitty is a Warriors fan, btw.

Kelenna is mine...;>

by girltothemax on Feb 25, 2009 9:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

haha that's so cute!

 Sleepy is not usually that nice, he may even like you?

Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 25, 2009 9:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No way!

As you know, Skep, my heart is made of rock-solid ice. I just thought GTTM looked a bit hungry. You can’t try to learn about the world on an empty stomach — you’ll end up confusing “your” and “you’re” and voting for things George W and Prop 8.

Meanwhile, KItty-chan isn’t a Warriors fan. She isn’t even real. :,-(

Thing 1

by Sleepy Freud on Feb 26, 2009 5:36 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

KItty-chan isn’t a Warriors fan. She isn’t even real. :,-(

 Dang, Pop my bubble! all the time I thought everything we see on the internet was real?

Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 26, 2009 8:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sleepy dude

I’m going to need more food than that! I do eat like a pig, ya know?

P.S. Hello Kitty is real and a Warriors fan…she just doesn’t know it yet. I have plans to kidnap her out of Japan in a couple of years to recruit her as a Warrior girl! Wish me luck..:p

Kelenna is mine...;>

by girltothemax on Feb 26, 2009 8:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I have plans to kidnap her out of Japan in a couple of years to recruit her as a Warrior girl! Wish me luck..:p

    Are you Montay Ellis?

Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 26, 2009 11:10 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Does Monta like Hello Kitty too???

  Naw, it’s just that he said “Wish me luck” right before he tried to jump over that bus….

Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 26, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

wow

I guess no one wished him luck.

Kelenna is mine...;>

by girltothemax on Feb 26, 2009 5:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I guess no one wished him luck.

 Nope , just said “break a leg”

Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 26, 2009 7:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m going to need more food than that!

Haha: the Hello Kitty bento box was just an amuse-bouche. For the main course, I was thinking more along the lines of this:

With a little practice, you could be the next Gal Sone!

As far as Kitty-chan: future Warrior Girl is aiming pretty low, dontcha think? Why would anybody want to be the object of lust of crazed adolescent basketball fans? (Rhetorical question, though you could probably answer it better than I… ;-P) I’m thinking she could be a Doctor, Architect, Lawyer … or Owner of the Warriors at the very least. I’d guess there’s roughly a 100% chance Kitty-chan could run the Warriors better than Cohan and Rowell…

Thing 1

by Sleepy Freud on Feb 26, 2009 7:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

As far as Kitty-chan: future Warrior Girl is aiming pretty low, dontcha think?

 Kelenna is confused but strangely aroused.

Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 26, 2009 7:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m thinking she could be a Doctor, Architect, Lawyer … or Owner of the Warriors at the very least.

Well, I guess she could be a Warrior girl first and work her way up, right? I mean with the recession and all…any job is better than nothing!

Or….she could be a super model like this!

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Whatchathink?

P.S. I wonder if Sonya DID eat that whole, humongous burger?

Kelenna is mine...;>

by girltothemax on Feb 26, 2009 8:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

im at school

trade Jackson!!!!!!

by gswfan13 on Feb 27, 2009 8:35 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

A disgruntled morning

Ok anyone thats read any of my posts knows I’m pro-Marco, hell I’m probably just pro-youngsters cause I know they need to develop, thats how we’re gonna get better down the road. But man, tonight was a night where I would’ve killed for a calm, collected veteran…Maybe a few of those stupid turnovers and lapses on defense wouldnt have happened…Why wasn’t Sjax guarding Gordon after he went on fire? How can a wiry guy like Crawford or Watson not be able to give Baron enough room to not foul him but stay with him and not let him just run around the court doing whatever he pleases? Someone just bother him, Christ! We dont need our best defender chasing around the worst shooter in the league, I would imagine Mike Dunleavy is still smiling about that one.

Onto Marco. I know Marco let Mardy Collins get a free unattested basket and thats horrible horrible defense, but I think it’s because the team as a whole is so bad defensively he’s looking to help too much…I saw him directing Crawford and Buike on defense pointing at spots and calling out assignments, and when Crawford of course shifted the wrong way and ran to double the man driving the lane instead of covering an open man, Belli flew in to where he pointed and picked a steal…I dont know if anyone saw that, that’s just one example…To me, it looks like Marco’s looking for his balance between defense and offense, and he’s not gonna do that without playing time…cause its IN and DURING the game that he’s put in these situations, having to cover his teammates because of their lack of motivation, not practice…I dont know I’m real frustrated, I really feel like Marco can distribute, score and defend, and to pull him out for pretty much the whole game because of one defensive misstep thats easily coached during a timeout or even a foul, is ridiculous. I know nellie has 40 wing players and he likes to be the mad scientist but Christ. When there is no ball movement on the floor and you have an unselfish player thats not afraid to drive and not afraid to pass, why would you leave him on the bench? To teach him a lesson? This isn’t high school, Marco’s intelligent, look how he’s improved his D this year instead of sitting around whining about not playing and asking for a trade. I’m sure the second he turned and saw Collins he knew what he did wrong and he knew he was coming out, cause me and my friend both said, sh*t, there goes Marco, the secong it happened, and sure enough…

Also did anyone notice the 1st quarter where Marco was just standing there at the 3 point line wide open? With Jax, Crawford and Buike all bricking threes, why not give Marco a try? It looked like they were purposely not passing to him, cause the second CJ came in Sjax made a stupid cross court pass to him for three. And from the looks of the game Marco probably wouldnt have shot it anyway, just about everytime he had his hands on the ball he either created or attempted to create for someone. That pass to Biedrins that Biedrins bobbled was so close to being awesome…Idk, im real frustrated, probably because the team I saw last night wasnt even fun to watch, it was sickening how lackluster and uninspired nearly every part of that game was.

Im not saying that playing Marco 35 minutes would’ve totally changed the game, but having someone in that tries to defend and tries to get the ball moving around sounds like the solution to 2 of our 3 biggest problems (rebounding being the 3rd) Idk if Baron’s dogging it, but I know the Dubs did last night for about 75% of that game. Except Nellie, he dogged 100% of it.

"Maybe I need somebody that can save me from the parts of myself that keep making me crazy" -Slug-

by drizztismoneybaby on Feb 24, 2009 7:51 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

The only defense I can think of for Marco sitting

is that maybe there’s a team rule about not leaving your man. I believe the same thing happened in the previous game with the Thunder where Monta left his man which allowed the Thunder player to get a rebound and an uncontested put back. Soon after that, Monta was benched for the rest of the 4th.

by IQofaWarrior on Feb 24, 2009 8:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That could be

and that makes perfect sense…but considering the stagnance of the offense, Nellie should’ve made an exception

"Maybe I need somebody that can save me from the parts of myself that keep making me crazy" -Slug-

by drizztismoneybaby on Feb 24, 2009 8:42 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Coudn't agree more!

Marco had 5 assists in 15 minutes… more than anyone else.
He plays hard, he plays D, he is unselfish, he plays for the team, but last night they were completely ignoring him. JC and Jax more than anyone else. Unbelievable.

by lucap on Feb 24, 2009 9:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm glad

I’m not the only one seeing that. And it is unbelievable cause it’s so obvious. I would be interested in seeing a stat of how many shots Maggette, Jackson and Crawford took with 10 seconds or less off the shot clock and how many of those were bricks…

"Maybe I need somebody that can save me from the parts of myself that keep making me crazy" -Slug-

by drizztismoneybaby on Feb 24, 2009 10:27 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It looked like they were purposely not passing to him, cause the second CJ came in Sjax made a stupid cross court pass to him for three.

 They don’t like to give him the ball cause they never know where he’s gonna throw it, he needs to develop a look pass.

Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 24, 2009 11:13 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Like a Steven Jackson look pass?

Like look at it go out of bounds? Or look at it go into the hands of the defender? All sarcasm aside, maybe they need to practice more plays where they know when they’re gonna receive the ball, instead of running iso all game.

"Maybe I need somebody that can save me from the parts of myself that keep making me crazy" -Slug-

by drizztismoneybaby on Feb 24, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

How is Buike being 2/4 bricking the threes?

Yes Crawford and Jackson, with 1-5 and 1-4, respectively, shouldn’t have been shooting them so much. I agree that if he was open they should have given it to him. Then again Marco was 0-2 on threes.

Kelenna David Azubuike <333

by goldenstatelove on Feb 24, 2009 4:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I was referring to the first quarter when Marco was in

Jackson, Crawford and Buike all bricked threes with Marco standing wide open…I just wanna see him get some touches early in the game to get some sort of rhythm going…thats vital for a shooter…

"Maybe I need somebody that can save me from the parts of myself that keep making me crazy" -Slug-

by drizztismoneybaby on Feb 25, 2009 9:49 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Did you guys like Baron Davis last night?

Thats why Mike Dunleavy Sr. has no hair anymore. He played b@llz out last night, and he never does that. It was his old team, so its easy to see his motivation.

Man that just makes him such a bigger j@ck@ss lol….. People… this is why it was GREAT to not resign him.

If that makes me a Robert Rowell lover and a Mully hater, then F it.

by sjboy on Feb 24, 2009 8:34 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I think letting Boom leave was a good move,

I would still throw my drink in Rob Rowell’s face if ever saw him. I decent move doesnt attone for this disstrous roster he conjured up for us.

We will probably need to be patient and let this season play out.
-warriorsvictim

by warriorsscore110 on Feb 24, 2009 11:18 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Probably our worst performance of the season. At least teams like the Thunder and Wizards played well when they beat us… last night, we lost to a terrible team who played terribly. That takes some effort.

I imagine things will right themselves as we head back to Oakland, but good lord. Terribly played, terribly coached. Embarrassing all around.

by onlxn on Feb 24, 2009 9:05 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

It was embarassing,

with Monta done, Nellie seriously shoud trot out the young guys out there even more than he did yesterday. Limit Jack, Craw, and Maggs to 30mins or less and let the kids play. We might as well see how good they are or can be, before the season is over.

We will probably need to be patient and let this season play out.
-warriorsvictim

by warriorsscore110 on Feb 24, 2009 11:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm going to catch flak for this but......

The officiating was pretty bad.

-The open court fouls on Maggette, and one under the hoop.
-Jackson driving through the lane and getting HAMMERED at the basket multiple times.
-Barons pushoffs/elbows to the gut.
-Keeping Zach Randolph in the game for the Clippers by not calling fouls on him.
-At least 2 loose ball fouls that were no calls that should have gone the Warriors way.

There’s no excuse for losing to the Clippers, but it is always nice to do a post game analysis of the officials. Last night they were horrendously inconsistent about what they were going to call. Ticky-tac fouls against the Warriors. Meanwhile the W’s are getting arms swatted and bumped 2-3 times on their way to the hoop. Flame away.

by Nuck Chorris on Feb 24, 2009 9:09 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Stephen Jackson

I love Stephen Jackson but at times I hate him! Stephen Jackson piles up so many stupid turnovers that it makes my head spin. If he’s going to be the man to run the show, then he’s got to start taking better care of the basketball and stop complaining all the time after he doesn’t get a foul called. He leaves his teammates out to dry and he just looks plain stupid. I swear to God he looks like a little baby crying and throwing a tantrum after his mom doesn’t buy him a toy at the store! I’m not saying that I necessarilly agree with the no calls but I’m just saying that you can’t complain everytime (unless your name is Kobe), otherwise the refs won’t give you respect. It’s embarassing and we all know Jack leads the league in technicals and one more and he’s suspended for one game. Maybe he should get suspended so he can realize how he’s hurting this team and himself by not being able to play. I honestly thought he should have picked up a couple of T’s in last nights game alone. Whenever he goes into the lane and doesn’t hear a whistle, he complains everytime and then just walks back on defense. Like I said, I love Jack but sometimes I hate Jack. He needs to calmn down and be the leader of this team otherwise this team will never be able to grow. He had a terrific shooting night and did other things well on the court (Free throws, assists, rebounds etc.) but those turnovers are a huge blemish on his stat line night in and night out. We all know Jack and he loves to “Jack” up shots. A lot of times, his shot selection is not the greatest but we all know that and that’s exactly what makes Jack, Jack so I’m not going to knock him for that but I think that he can work on it a little bit. The guy is a phenomenal, high risk basketball player and has improved in many areas of his game since he has become a Warrior, right now, I think he needs to focus on not picking up anymore techs and not throwing the ball away from now on. I know Jack is capable of this and in order for him to get that superstar respect around the league he needs to add these things to his game.

I hop up out the bed, turn my swag on and then do the stanky leg...yeaaaaahhh I'm gettin' Arab money!!

by ItsDatFriscoSwag25 on Feb 24, 2009 9:24 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

at least he hasn't been complaining lately

but has been passing the ball terribly. I suppose he can’t do everything at once. Learn one, but forgets the other.

by Shells on Feb 24, 2009 10:32 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

oh but he has...

been complaining lately. I watch him very closely when he’s upset with not getting a call. He may not do it as much as other games but last night he was definitely crying. He’s gotta stop this. He can argue his point but he’s gotta stop throwing tantrums like a spoiled brat.

I hop up out the bed, turn my swag on and then do the stanky leg...yeaaaaahhh I'm gettin' Arab money!!

by ItsDatFriscoSwag25 on Feb 24, 2009 10:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

you don't

think he’s been a tad bit better?

by Shells on Feb 25, 2009 12:35 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

lol WHAT!!?

the fool complained on almost EVERY possesion!!! and that really is no exaggeration

by 123707THIZZ on Feb 24, 2009 2:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

it wasn't as bad.

it haven’t frustrated me these past 2 games from complaining. I think the camera intentionally pan out when he’s arguing. (Smart man…or woman.) But the turnover and being ‘soft’ on defense. The thunder game was already ugly…but the Clipper game was uglier… LGW..still?

by Shells on Feb 25, 2009 12:32 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Sign of a Bad Team

Playing up/down to the level of your opponent. Everyone calls us a playoff team when we play the Lakers close, but when we play bad teams like the Clippers and Thunder, we constantly perform terribly and lose. That is the sign of a BAD team. All the homerism can be thrown out the window. It is time for us to face the fact that we are a bad team that needs significant upgrades. A good team does not lose by 13 to the Clippers, ever. On the road or at home. There are people out there who will say that the current Warriors roster will make the playoffs next year. There is no way a roster that is this inconsistent will make the playoffs.

by 3xdubble on Feb 24, 2009 9:28 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

we did that last year as well

And honestly, it mainly is sjax/mags/crawford who do this – the others seemed to play normal (with some funk shooting).

by mosdl on Feb 24, 2009 9:31 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

MAYBE

we’re trying to tank…

You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk

by LostHawk on Feb 24, 2009 9:32 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Sjax needs to handle the ball less?

Box score: http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=290223012

TOs equal, rebounds only 10 off. Their hot 3pt shooting made the difference. That and maggs trying to play fancy rather than doing his usual thing. Sjax, while forcing it, still shot 11-20. 5 tos as well, but so did BD and eric gordon (each 5).

They shot over 50, we at 44, that did it (mags/jamal had a cold game). We took bad shots, got lazy after an amazing start, didn’t pass enough.

Also, AR/morrow were part of the 4th qtr run, and then were pulled. Don’t understand why – morrow was being left open all the time, AR didn’t turn it over and had a good game I thought.

I think this on nellie actually – should have left the youngsters finish the game.

by mosdl on Feb 24, 2009 9:38 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I think this on nellie actually – should have left the youngsters finish the game.

I thought he said he was going to play the youngsters more? I guess Nellie’s not a man of his word. They did have a good game. Marco played well, AR played good enough to remain on the floor, Morrow’s dead eye shooting was on display (a little). Watson played very well, so I don’t know why they were pulled too. They all only played for brief moments throughout the game and I felt they should have been in for a good portion of the game.

I hop up out the bed, turn my swag on and then do the stanky leg...yeaaaaahhh I'm gettin' Arab money!!

by ItsDatFriscoSwag25 on Feb 24, 2009 9:45 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

he did play them more

Look at the box score – sjax played under 40, and the young uns got some burn. He just pulled them at the end hoping he could win the game – with 2 plays who were cold.

by mosdl on Feb 24, 2009 9:47 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Morrow played like he was in a rush

He has to be told not to be in a hurry to score so he can take some better shots. Overall I thought he played well though.
In game, it’s hard to say put in the veterans because you get caught up in trying to win regardless of the season’s overall record.
Looking back, I agree though, might as well play the young guys so they can grow a bit together

by warriorsvictim on Feb 24, 2009 10:03 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And

he looks real lost on defense. I love his offense but he looks like he is really unsure of what to do on the other side of the floor and he hesitates a lot…

"Maybe I need somebody that can save me from the parts of myself that keep making me crazy" -Slug-

by drizztismoneybaby on Feb 24, 2009 10:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He hasn't played in a while

The more playing time he gets, the more he can learn.

by mosdl on Feb 24, 2009 10:50 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If the BD we saw last night..

..is the BD that would come to play for the rest of his career, than no questions – I’d take him back. On that poll of trading Maggs and Williams back for BD, I voted to keep the two. My reasoning for that was BD’s lousy play to date and the fact that Maggs has been playing excellently since he started coming off the bench.

He’s injury prone, he’s shooting terribly this year, but last he reminded us all of what made him a star in a Warriors uniform last year.

If there was some way to have them BOTH on a team (like if BD gets bought out in the coming offseason – not likely, but who knows what Dunleavy Sr. is thinking?), THAT would be awesome.

by ryogahibiki on Feb 24, 2009 9:45 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

he plays based on motivation

and he doesnt have any motive to play there in that system. he played well cuz he wanted to show us hes still got it and to shove it in our faces for not gettin him out of that that system before the trade.

i KNOW with our team he would play significantly better and with our fans backing him up at home

maggettes ‘amazing’ stats aren’t helping us get wins (maybe a little at home, but we’d still win at home without him…and prob more with a real PG leader like baron)…i mean look at our away record…ya im sure his stats helpd us!

You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk

by LostHawk on Feb 24, 2009 10:02 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I love Boom and am glad he had a good game but

 He’s not the same as he was , he looks slower and less energetic. I’d rather have Gordon now if we’re seriously talking about getting a Clipper. Maggette is worth keeping just for his ability to buy fouls, we got lots of guards and stickmen to trade instead of Corey.

Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 24, 2009 11:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

why would we want gordon

hes a 2, we have too many 2s

You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk

by LostHawk on Feb 24, 2009 1:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Let's go Warriors...still.

  give it a rest, I got a headache

Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 24, 2009 11:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hungover?

 Naw, I think it was the blowfish I found on the beach this morning

Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 24, 2009 3:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

did you see more shells?

  yeah those little buggers are everywhere. They murmur LGW and the seagulls come back with HFL.

Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 25, 2009 11:56 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hands down, most embarassing loss of the season.

Let’s go, lottery, let’s go!

by YaHeard on Feb 24, 2009 11:14 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

dude, did you just give the WARRIORS wonder to a player on another team?

This is getting sad guys, Baron is the girlfriend that broke up with us and we just cant get over and keep praying will come back. Baron Davis= Sarah Marshall

by 123707THIZZ on Feb 24, 2009 11:56 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Remember how that movie starts and ends?

He’s naked.

That’s exactly how we are right now.

NAKED.

We still believe!!

by R Dizzle on Feb 24, 2009 12:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Lol

that movie is hilarious. “does that feel good, cause it hurts me”

"Maybe I need somebody that can save me from the parts of myself that keep making me crazy" -Slug-

by drizztismoneybaby on Feb 24, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

“doo doo papa!? You throwin doo doo papa!?”

by 123707THIZZ on Feb 24, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Pet Peeve

People who criticize but don’t offer another answer.

Who was your Warrior Wonder? Mine was for fun. I felt nobody on the Warriors deserved it.

by Fantasy Junkie on Feb 24, 2009 4:28 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

i feel ya, warriors wonder should be N/A.

But this baron stuff is getting ridiculous, Baron gushing is my pet peeve

by 123707THIZZ on Feb 24, 2009 4:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Baron gushing is my pet peeve

Well when the Warriors trade for Baron this offseason, I will allow you to gush.

by Fantasy Junkie on Feb 24, 2009 10:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

one loss closer to a better draft pick this summer. at this point i hope to see a lot more bel, morrow, and ar. we know what we got, we have a lot of scorers and no defenders. either way, a healthy dubs team can beat anyone in this league…

its all bout next season. oh… and f* braon and the clips.

it's just a game.
www.bayareascores.com

by Slicker on Feb 24, 2009 12:44 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Janny Hu brings up an interesting point

Biedrins returned from his ankle injury, but he started off the bench. Then why did Monta jump right into the starting lineup? Bring on the conspiracy theories!

by IQofaWarrior on Feb 24, 2009 1:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Conspiracy theory #1

We do not have a solid backup for the 2 yet so Monta needed to be back however we do have a solid backup in centerspot in Ronnie Turiaf allowing Andris Biedrins time to get back in.

What we’ve learned: Biedrins should not start off the bench.

by warriorgirl on Feb 24, 2009 2:44 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Buike is not a 2

and at the time, i believe Marco was injured when we played the cavs

by warriorgirl on Feb 24, 2009 6:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Bring Baron Back!!! This team sucks!!

Yup, for sure Baron should still be a Warrior. This is this decade’s version of “Chris Webber.”

If you are a GSW fan, HOW THE HELL WOULD YOU SAY NO TO A MAGGETTE AND M WILLIAMS FOR BARON DAVIS TRADE? You are simply and unequivocally a basketball idiot if you don’t think that that trade is a steal for the Warriors. I guess you like being a lottery team instead of our successful years with Baron? Don’t get your logic one bit. Maggette is 1-dimensional at a position that we already have talent at, while Baron is the leader and playmaker this team is lacking (and we f’ing had!). This are the type of things that make some franchises stay losers -
retarded front office moves that are supported and defended some retarded fans. PS – You will only take offense to this post if you fall into the retarded fan category.

by RowellMustGo on Feb 25, 2009 10:32 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

HOW THE HELL WOULD YOU SAY NO TO A MAGGETTE AND M WILLIAMS FOR BARON DAVIS TRADE?

 Baron is old news, he only looked great against our awful defense. Boom wouldn’t lead us to a ring, that train has left the station. We need new news. Like Raymond Felton perhaps, or that Rubio kid ?
   Maggete is a solid player, in the right scheme he’ll be valuable to us. No one is better at drawing phantom fouls.
   The guys to dump are some of our dozen shooting guards and stickmen “bigs” along with our inflexible coach.

Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 25, 2009 12:10 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

To make it better

celtics up by one in the 4th at clippers.

by mosdl on Feb 25, 2009 9:30 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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