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Check out this article on Baron Davis from Bill Simmons, "The Sports Guy" on ESPN.com. Im a fan of Bill's work, who is speaking as a season ticket holder of the Clippers who has been complaining about Baron since the signing. Interesting read, pretty much backs up, quotes and all, everything we thought and said about Baron Davis from the start. Enjoy

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me too

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by LostHawk on Feb 24, 2009 6:22 PM PST up reply actions  

he's not going to do anything next year

except sit on the sidelines with injuries.

Why wait until next year for him to do something to better himself and his team? Why not now?

All I can say, I am glad he’s gone.

Kelenna is mine...;>

by girltothemax on Feb 25, 2009 8:52 PM PST up reply actions  

be careful what you say

The wizards aren’t called the Washington warriors for nothing. They got our best players in Antawn (all-star) and Gilbert (when he aint injured).

by warriorgirl on Feb 25, 2009 9:57 PM PST up reply actions  

for Baron's sake I hope I'm wrong

but we all have to move on still.

Kelenna is mine...;>

by girltothemax on Feb 26, 2009 7:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Great read

That former co-worker had to be Jack

by Rowell Movement on Feb 24, 2009 6:38 PM PST reply actions  

The one that emailed him about playing in the Mike Montgomery era?

No, Jack was still in Indiana. Not many Warriors left from 04-06.

All your base are belong to us

by Deimos24 on Feb 25, 2009 10:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah I’m guessing it was JRich. He’s the only one around who would still be close to Baron. Either him or Ellis but I don’t see Monta giving advice to Baron right now.

by Dubbadown on Feb 26, 2009 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

watch him tear it up next year

and all the baron haters will cry that we didnt trade maggs for him…

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by LostHawk on Feb 24, 2009 6:44 PM PST reply actions  

The Dude Who Plays With His Heart On His Sleeve....

Great article, sad circumstance. Boom come back!

Dunleavy is a cancer. I agree, it will also eat Eric Gordon alive.

by DubCurse on Feb 24, 2009 6:54 PM PST reply actions  

Baron sounds like an idiot

Why sign before Brand? He could have held off a few days.
Why not try to force a trade before the deadline?..what, is this team going to lose morale if they know Baron wants out? How could it get any worse?
Why not be honest and say he doesnt like the way Dunleavy coaches? There is nothing wrong about saying you dont agree with the system and here’s how you would do it. Just dont say something rude like the coach is an idiot

Baron sounds like a victim to me and we knew him as something completely different while he was here….a leader

by warriorsvictim on Feb 25, 2009 5:08 PM PST reply actions  

Why sign before Brand?

We had to sign Maggette and Turiaf before Ellis & Biedrins because of cap issues. I’m sure the same applied for Baron & Brand.

"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0

by Dubs fan in Boston on Mar 3, 2009 12:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Why not be honest and say he doesnt like the way Dunleavy coaches? There is nothing wrong about saying you dont agree with the system and here’s how you would do it. Just dont say something rude like the coach is an idiot

When talking to ESPN, you have to remember they’re going to do whatever it takes to sell clicks/viewers/issues. If you say “I don’t like the way he coaches”, they’ll blow it way out of proportion. Sports media has turned into tabloid journalism. “It is what it is”, and Baron has to dance the dance or get burned by the tabloids.

"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0

by Dubs fan in Boston on Mar 3, 2009 12:23 AM PST up reply actions  

the writer

is obviously trying to be buddy buddy with BD and has a strong bias and makes Baron the victim and poor baron and all he wanted to do was do it for the kids, etc.. Don’t get me wrong I love Baron, and I do feel bad for him, but could you imagine JRich being in the same situation and feeling sorry for himself, sulking around on the Court.

by Agent Zero on Feb 25, 2009 10:12 PM PST reply actions  

The writer almost assuredly had a mandate from his management to write an article about Baron Davis

With a specific agenda to get something about what happened with Elton, and try to get a feel for BD. You can’t write that article without a pro-Baron slant. Yes, he glossed over the “WTF, you’re paid gobs of money to play basketball and you can’t even force yourself to try?” aspect. But if he writes that he burns his relationship with Baron for the future and wouldn’t be trusted by any other athlete… it’s the nature of the beast.

"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0

by Dubs fan in Boston on Mar 3, 2009 12:26 AM PST up reply actions  

I miss Baron

But it’s just time to move on. It’s been time, actually. I would love to have him, but no way in hell would I pay him the money the Clippers are paying him. Jamal Crawford is nowhere near as good as Baron Davis, but from a player’s role on a team’s standpoint, I think he can replace him.

by Golden Boy on Feb 25, 2009 10:43 PM PST reply actions  

i actually think jamal has more talent than baron

he just for some reason hasnt produced the way he seems like he should be able to…baron plays with a ton of emotion, maybe thats what jamal needs?

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by LostHawk on Feb 25, 2009 11:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Baron plays with too much emotion

He’s like Jackson. If he gets way too pissed, it actually hurts the team. Then come the stupid fouls and technicals.

by Golden Boy on Feb 26, 2009 8:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Are you kidding?

No way is Craw more talented than Baron. When healthy and motivated, Baron is a top 5 PG in the league. Nobody could ever say that about Crawford.

by Calamity on Feb 26, 2009 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

i actually think jamal has more talent than baron,he just for some reason hasnt produced the way he seems like he should be able to

  Haha, That ’s the definition of talent

Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 26, 2009 7:55 PM PST up reply actions  

maybe i shoulda said skill set or potential?

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by LostHawk on Feb 26, 2009 8:36 PM PST up reply actions  

No, that wouldn't have helped...

Crawford has less talent, less potential, less emotion, less intensity. He not better than Baron at anything.

by in for life on Feb 28, 2009 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

no...

hes a better free thrower, jump shooter, handler, and 3 pnt shooter….

for some reason he just doesnt create well for others, even tho he creates great for himself

You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
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With the soul of a LOST HAWK
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by LostHawk on Feb 28, 2009 11:35 PM PST up reply actions  

None of those skills have anything to do with being a good PG

They offer peripheral help (it’s good to have a good handle and be a 3pt threat, but not critical). You are a good point guard by being able to distribute and execute and have great vision when you’re handling the ball. Baron has that, Craw not as much.

"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0

by Dubs fan in Boston on Mar 3, 2009 12:29 AM PST up reply actions  

trust me

id rather have baron than almost any PG in the league (with exception of about 5 of em)…i was just tryin to say that just lookin at crawford throughout his tenure and at the begginging of his NBA career, he really seemed like the type of player that had the ability to become a top notch PG, too bad it didnt materialize at all :(

You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
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With the soul of a LOST HAWK
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by LostHawk on Mar 8, 2009 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude I totally feel what you say

I think Crawford can be a lethal offensive pg. I don’t think he can be on the level of Baron, Deron or CP3, but I think he can be hella effective at it for us if that was his full-time roll.

by Golden Boy on Mar 9, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

not what im sayin either

he HAD the potential to be, hes too old now to change.

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by LostHawk on Mar 9, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

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