Trying to clear up some Monta Ellis/Warriors fuzziness [Talking Points]
Clearly this situation is still unclear.
Update (7:42pm): Here's some relevant interviews from yesterday and today's The Razor and Mr. T show on KNBR 680.
* Tim Kawakami: Part 1 | Part 2
* Marcus Thompson
Comments
Gee thanks for clearing it all up.
Atma? Ever post anything positive or are you just a shill for TK?
by dungeness crabdribble on Mar 10, 2009 4:32 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
That's a very productive comment.
When was the last time you posted something positive?
Looks to me that you’ve been sipping a bit too much of that haterade.
Why waste your time positing these kinds of comments? If you don’t like something, don’t read it. Simple as that. Yet instead you decide to be silly about it.
By the way, I posted this because I am curious as to why one would waste his or her time with such negativity. So, no, I am not wasting my time. I’m looking for a lesson.
We still believe!!
That’s a very productive comment
when was the last time you didn’t jump to defend any criticism of Atma’s broken record posting without using the haterade line?
by so ill so d0pe on Mar 10, 2009 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Last time to not use the haterade line?
Probably never. Don’t worry – that goes for me too. Trust me, I criticize the guy a lot. It’s probably even debatable if I even like him. I’ve had to live with him for multiple years. But hey, I’ll be the first to say that I sip on a lot of haterade.
This is a WARRIORS BLOG – where we bring the latest, news, updates to people. (See bObaBaLLa’s comment below). That’s the whole point of this.
What the heck is the point of wasting your time criticizing someone’s work if you don’t like it? Seems a lot easier to not read it and just ignore it. It’s pretty silly to respond with such nonsense and not provide anything productive back. Do you really have nothing better to do with your time?
Got criticism? Fine. Give some ideas as to what else to do. Don’t go off saying someone’s a broken record without telling me (or anyone else) how to fix it.
But hey, that’s waaay too hard to ask for.
We still believe!!

"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0
by Dubs fan in Boston on Mar 11, 2009 6:56 AM PDT up reply actions
what can you really be positive about? it’s not as though there is good news everywhere involving the warriors and atma is just ignoring it. the team is a mess, no need to sugar coat it.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
no need to beat a dead horse either
by fuller over bryant on Mar 10, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
weather or not we want to or not.. i think montas gone in the summer...
hopefully we get a good PG in return. maby a monta for nash deal? for baron and a first rounder? monta for some good player…monta for a first round pick to hopfully get blake griffin? i dont know..but i dont think montas gonna be a warrior for long
no other team will take him
and i dont wanna regret losing him next year…i hope he stays
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
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what on earth would make you think monta is gone by the summer.
first of all, who would take him. michael jordan wouldn’t even take him.
and secondly, the warriors haven’t given us one hint that they would be willing to give him up anyway. everything we’ve heard have been rumors…how can you be convinced by rumors…
"so much losers" - hiero
thanks for the link
I might not have been on here as long as many of you, so maybe I don’t know the history of things that Atma has been posting. What’s wrong with him posting something like this up though?
One thing I like about GSOM is that I can find articles all in one place because someone put up a link for it. I don’t need to go through various local media sites to see what different reporters are writing about when I can find all that info here.
tim kawakami has repeatedly made up ridiculous rumors this year. thats why. maybe if he posted reliable sources that would be nice
"so much losers" - hiero
+ 1000 I don't think Atma deserves all this hate...
Although yes he seems to be dogging the Warriors for everything, in ensense he’s just giving us the info from all the Warriors writers blogs and bringing it to one place, GSOM. For him to do that is fantastic, because now I only have to visit one sight, GSOM, to get all the info I need and want. It’s fair for him to put his opinion on the info, just like we all do as well, even if he is so pessimistic. But Atma and the entire GSOM crew arn’t deserving of any crap from us. It’s fine to argue his opinion, but to call him out as a “broken record” when he’s doing a great service for us Warriors fans is hardly fair
by Lincoln Logs on Mar 10, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
AB1 is good for:
Being in love with JRich
Posting links to articles he finds on the Warriors
Being madly in love with JRich
Posting interviews he’s conducted with various Warriors personnel and beat writers
Hating Monta for trying to keep his job by lying about his injury
Being madly in love with JRich
Making more fanshots than anyone else because the rest of us realize that 80% of GSoM readers don’t ever scroll down to see the fanshots
Holding grudges against the front office for dumping JRich and other fan favorites and keeping the evil Monta.
and there’s something else… I’m forgetting it.
Oh yeah, he is a really big fan of JRich. I can’t believe I forgot that one. A really big fan.
"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0
by Dubs fan in Boston on Mar 11, 2009 7:03 AM PDT up reply actions
A big fan, like this:

"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0
by Dubs fan in Boston on Mar 11, 2009 7:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Monta to NY?
Mully is going to NY and I am sure he’s taking Monta with him! Monta is going to fit in D’Antoni’s system perfectly.
Mully is going to NY and I am sure he’s taking Monta with him!
That would be great but who is NY giving us in trade?
Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 10, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
That would be great but who is NY giving us in trade?
NY is giving no one! GS is voiding the contract…
NY is giving no one! GS is voiding the contract…
We don’t hafta void, if he wants to go to new york that gives us leverage.
Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 10, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't they have one of the best GMs in the NBA?
By the name of Donnie Walsh?
There are three types of people in this world: Those who can count, and those who cannot.
by StSaints408 on Mar 10, 2009 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
great...
if the warriors void ellis’ contract, do i have the right to get my money back for my monta ellis jersey i bought? i reserve the right to void my purchase.
atma
how many stupid articles does tim k have to write til you stop posting his stuff on this website… its getting to be a joke
"so much losers" - hiero
I found your problem
You think monta is amazing. At least I assume that’s what you think.
You don’t like what you see? Don’t read it. Simple as that.
We still believe!!
i didn't. am i not allowed to give my input. after all he's providing this service for the people that visit this site. i happen to be one of those people.
i’m just letting him know that i don’t think sending us articles of guys who make things up is the most useful information for the people here….
i appreciate what he does just don’t see the point in continually posting articles by a guy who notoriously makes up ridiculous rumors…
what i don’t appreciate is the fact that he’s giving kawakami all this attention when that is all he is seeking. and he does so without doing his job in a professional manner
"so much losers" - hiero
by montamazing on Mar 11, 2009 12:52 AM PDT up reply actions
i don’t think sending us articles of guys who make things up is the most useful information for the people here….
But it keeps us from having to search out all the useless crap for ourselves, I’d never find your thoughts if I had to look for them all over the place.
Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 11, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
If we posted that the mods would tell us to remove and put it under fanshots since
it wasn’t sufficiently researched. The mods should live by the same rules. Post it in fanshots and not front and center on the main page. Atma is a shill for TK and every bad article unsubstantiated by any fact.
by dungeness crabdribble on Mar 11, 2009 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe..
they are still holding the grudge against monta by voiding his contract, just to make him play better or something…like his motivation to be the best he can be, or grow up and act proffessional
Kick his ass out.....
I am sick to death of dealing with this snot nosed kid….
HE (Monta Ellis) did the most incredibly stupid thing. Fine….we all make those mistakes, but his actions thereafter REALLY pissed me off. Monta Ellis has about as much class as road kill.
He needs to take his head out of his own spoiled ass and take a leaf out of Jamal Crawfords book as to how to present yourself as a HIGHLY paid sports athlete THERE to ENTERTAIN fans and to help the club win.
Purely and simply his attitude and general behaviour has just about ratted my cage to “enough is enough”. He wants to sit there with the big “Rock” in his ear (Was that a conflict free diamond Monta? Do you even know where the diamond conflicts are?) and has done nothing but act the ass since his injury.
We have heard from various sources not just TK (who I also believe is a bit of an arse) that Monta is “NOT HAPPY” at how he was treated and “miffed” at the $3m fine….well here’s some big news for you little man……. You and I get locked in a room together, you will earn to eat some humble pie….REAL FAST and get some manners even faster, I promise you would not tter another single word about that fine ever again…..
He OWES this clubs fans a whole hearted apology, he needs to grow the feck up and take his punishment on the chin and shut his damn stupid mouth. If a reporter asks a question…the answer is….. “The club issued a statement as to why I went away….it’s all good now, I am back and looking forward to recovering further and trying to get used to my teammates again and learn how we can best grow as a team for the rest of the season, work and train hard through the off season…and then come back fighting next year.”
THATS…the type of answer he should be giving and if his damn agent is not “coaching” him as to how he really needs to behave, then sack his ass and get someone onboard that can keep you straight and develop your mental game as much as your floor game.
Unfortunately….he is showing all the symptoms of “poor kid done good” and now believing he can act, talk and behave how he likes.
I sincerely hoped at some point he was going to turn to the hard working fans in these tough economic times and apologise for his behaviour, but not a thing, frankly the talk of complaint about his $3m fine, sickens me and tells me all I need to know about this PUNK.
I dont care how good he may be elsewhere and I really dont care if his fully recovers from the injury to be truly good, if he maintains his attitude I do not ever want to pay money that goes to a club to keep him in the style to which HE THINKS he is accustomed.
The fact remains…we have a very young team….it has great potential, maybe missing one or two pieces. If Monta Ellis wants to disappear to New York, then bugger off, then he can link up again with his mate Al Harrington (another whining worthless puke), probably Mully, and playing a style of ball that we all probably would enjoy watching, but one which he SHOULD be playing here.
However, all the while he is in a Warriors jersey, he needs to grow a set of balls and behave with sportsman like conduct and professionalism as this at the very least is what Golden State Warriors Fans deserve after HIS dumb ass decision really cost us any chance of the playoffs whatsoever and therefore HE COST this franchise money.
God help anyone that comments to this about him just being young, etc blah blah. BULLCRAP! He took the money….he signed THE CONTRACT….he took the responsibility and he had to step up to the plate. He failed in a major way, his conduct and lying disgusts me and he has a LONG way to go, to get any form of respect back from Warriors fans who actually want their players not just to be great players but also role models for kids.
I have read all the previous threads and comments and defense of Ellis v Crawford….right now, I take Crawford and sit Ellis’s ass on the bench, until he gets a decent jump shot back, he does not turnover the ball so much, busts his ass to get back on D more and starts playing a a TRUE PG with a head for assists rather than personal gratification.
Rant over……Ellis you are an ARSE…. Nelson is a bungling fool in his “let’s sit vetsto see the youngsters” nonsense (It’s called rotation) and a single digit in the air to the front office halfwits of this club that continue on a daily basis to make more poor choices and decisions than I can shake a stick at. If I were Donald Trump….the immortal words would be heard….
YOU’RE FIRED!
It's about heart, It's about fight, It's about being a Warrior!
by BritWarriorGSW on Mar 11, 2009 1:36 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
talk about broken record..
you’ve already displayed your inability to move on from monta’s young-man mistake. i said it before, i’ll say it again.
get over it
"They can trade me," Bonds said. "I don't think they will, though. It's not like I want to be traded, man. I'm a Giant. I'm stuck here till the end."
we've heard from two guys saying monta is unhappy. kawakami and marcus thompson. two guys who notoriously make ridiculous things up. you don't know ellis so i think its a little silly to be judging so harshly
you don’t have the slightest idea whats going through his head. maybe he’s mad at himself. you don’t know
"so much losers" - hiero
by montamazing on Mar 11, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
and next year as soon as he's producing again you'll be quick to forget about this whole situation.
just as you would had he come back and avg’d 20 a game this year. don’t pretend its his attitude that bothers you.
"so much losers" - hiero
by montamazing on Mar 11, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Your off your head Montamazing...
No I wont forget all about his antics, he is proving to have a PUNK attitude, just listen to some of his interviews. I could not give a crap if he is mad at himsef, he shows no class considering the position he is in.
As to you GameSix….. why dont you offer to pay back some season ticket wedge then tell people to get over it. If you bothered your arse to read what I posted properly, you would have realised that I recognize we ALL make mistakes….it’s his flat disregard to recognize how pissed off people are with his behaviour and therefore the complete lack of seemed devotion to get this Warriors team back winning and fighting again….again with a clear apology for his mistake.
It really is THAT simple. So try getting over yourself and bother your backside to read properly first before posting crap back.
It's about heart, It's about fight, It's about being a Warrior!
by BritWarriorGSW on Mar 11, 2009 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions






















