Stay Put, Jamal. Let Monta Ride Off WIth His Moped Into the Sunset

Pro’s:
-good attitude
-team player
-decent outside shooter when he’s in the zone(which is about 1 out of every 3 games)

Con’s
-Horrible defender
-Overpaid
-Only shoots about 40% from the field
-We already have a ton of depth at his position which makes him and his salary expendable
-Having Crawford opt out would give us the cap space to fill a bigger need on our team(that is, if any free agent will want to come and play for us)

I don’t care what any of you haters have to say. Jamal Crawford, of course in my opinion, as I am the writer of this Fanpost, is good for this team. I don’t know who’s faster between him and Monta (if healthy), but Crawford is sure lightning quick as is. Sure he’s a streaky shooter, but when he is on fire, he is extremely tough to stop. He can beat his man off the dribble, just like Monta. He can create for others if Nelly actually wanted him to. He can shoot free throws and 3-pointers also just like Monta. No, wait a minute… oh yeah that’s right. Monta is capable of making those shots, but not as easily as Crawford can

How often is Crawford on fire? I out of 5 games? not very useful. We need consistency somewhere. And last year Monta was pretty consistant,

What is it ya’ll don’t like about him? His lack of defense? I read a lot of you complain about Watson’s defense, and you don’t think he should go. His constant outside shooting instead of using his capabilities to drive to the basket?

How much are we paying for Watson? how much are we paying crawford? Exactly.

Captain Jack does the same thing, and he’s capable of even slamming on defenders. He collects technicals like it’s a good thing. On top of that… HE’S ONE OF OUR TEAM CAPTAINS!!! Excuse me… His history of never making it to the playoffs? Well, isn’t basketball a team game? Did Monta not have a good supporting cast of players on the team in ’07?

Yes exactly why we’re pissed he got a extension. We have a chance to get rid of Crawford so lets do it.

Before these reports of how Ellis was acting, I even noticed since last year even during his post-game interviews, he was starting to get really cocky. The dude’s got skills, but c’mon… let your game do the talking. I know at least some of us see he’s having that “me me me” attitude. You can see it in his interviews, his body language, his facial expressions, and in his demeanor when he’s around the team in their “huddles.” Sure it may look pretty what Monta can do on the basketball floor, but in time, it’s all going to catch up with us and kill the nucleus for our team.

?? Really when I was watching the interview he just seemed like a simple young man. He wants to be Monta Ellis not AI or anyone else. He wants to play the game and show what he can do. And what’s wrong with his “me me me” attitude last year. 2nd half of last season I just wanted the team to pass to Monta since SJax and Baron was pretty much burnt out and playing like crap.

but whatever. he’s being a dumbass if he thinks he can challenge the warriors brass.

I don’t think we should give up on Monta, but I wouldn’t mind trading him if it will bring us something worth while in return.

If anything, please try to get rid of Maggette (although I have liked the way he has played lately), or Jackson (cringe).

Pleaasse…. I don’t know why we would just trade Crawford. He has a great attitude, loves the bay area and let’s face it, he actually gives a you know what on the court.

Perception of attitude is subjective.

Skills are not.

I really don’t have to say much else. Except that not everyone that disagrees with you is a hater. It is a convenient blanket statement, but it pretty much implies that everyone who disagrees with you is doing so because they hate by nature, and not because they have legitimate reasons.

a 5-15, 4-13, 25-32, 3-10 out of 4 box scores of games out of Crawford. Great. One 50 point game to get us to a 1 win 3 loss run. That’s exactly what we need, our coldest streaky shooter to get a headline on www.nba.com for our team to be 3 games below .500. That’s nothing on Monta being the only guard last year to average over 60 FGs for an entire month.

My problem with Crawford is that when he gets the ball, his game consists mainly of dribbling to get by a defender, then taking a midrange shot. That’s fine if he consistently makes them, but more often than not he DOESN’T make them. And when he’s ice cold, he doesn’t pull much else out of his bag of tricks. He CAN drive by his defender for a layup, but more often than not, he DOESN’T go for the layup, and instead settles for another shot.

I’m at the point where any time Crawford shoots, I expect it to miss. And because he doesn’t bring much else, I’d rather not see him on the floor. It’s a lot like Maggette’s three point shot earlier in the season. He kept missing them, so we were wondering why he keeps taking them. But now, Maggette’s game consists mainly of driving in for a shorter shot, lay up, or foul. At the same time, Maggette DOESN’T shoot many threes, except when he’s wide open. And since he’s been a bit smarter about when to take them and is more reliable with the three lately, I don’t cringe any more when he takes a three. Instead, I EXPECT Maggette’s occasional three to go in now. Meanwhile, I cringe every time Crawford takes a shot, because I don’t expect his shots to go in.

One other aspect of last season’s Monta’s game that’s better than Crawford is that Monta’s game had grown effective enough to draw double team attention. I remember Bob and Jim talking on the telecast about Monta’s next stage of growth was learning how to survive the double teams. Meanwhile Crawford is inconsistent enough not to be a real threat to the opponent’s defense. They know he’s going to shoot first, and they know he’s more likely to miss, so there’s no need to double team him to trap him and make him give up the ball.

Now I do I have an issue with Monta’s attitude lately, and if it’s really as big of a problem as the writers make it, then I’d wouldn’t mind seeing Monta go also. But assuming Monta’s game returns to his 2007-08 season form, I’d rather see Crawford’s game go.

line to this season..

We’ve seen how ineffective Mags,Craw and Jax is together. Do we really want another season of the same?

and for those of you dreaming for a star pf or wtvr once we get rid of monta. All i have to say is the best pf we could probably afford with a voided pf contract next year is probably milsap. do you think milsap would be as good on the warriors. I’d say no.

pick the ‘nice guy’ who is mediocre over guy with star potential. Chill out on monta. He’s always been a professional and tried his hardest. He made a dumb mistake. He came back midseason off a 9 month layoff when everyone else is in mid season form, and he had new starters to lean to play with (only jack and biedrins and ’buke were regulars last year) .
He got rushed back, and he was struggling w/ a stiff ankle… even while playing too much and knowing he shoulda gone slower he wanted to play more.

And gues what, he has NO VALUE now. 6 year deal, and he’s been only injured… rest of league has doubts till he shows he still has it and wont offer us anything substantial. He’ll work hard over the summer and come back stronger

as a mediocre team high scorer… he’s another corey maggette…. both r good guys but neither play like winners. Both r 6th men on playoff caliber teams.

I think that it is without doubt that the warriors would be best off if Jamal would opt out. I doubt that Nelson scared him into giving up a much larger contract than he would ever be able to get in today’s market. The only other option would be to trade him and/or Maggette if we could. The only team that would take one or both without also asking for other assets and the warriors to take another bad contract would be the Knicks when Isiah was their GM, but that is no longer a possibility. The fact of the matter is that the Warriors may be better off keeping everybody and the team intact given that we cannot trade our worst contracts without losing our youthful potential.
We have one of the best young cores and one of the deepest squads in the NBA. We may not have a superstar, at least until Randolph fully develops, but we have a lot of talent. We also have Nelson, who is still one of the best offensive coaches. What if next year he just benched any player that did not run down the court?
If we play our rotation
1 Monta/Crawford/ Bellinelli
2 Jackson/Morrow/ Bellinelli
3. Azubuike, Magette
4. Wright/ Randolph/ Magette
5. Biedrins/ Turiaf
We can set new scoring records while exhausting the other teams starters and go into their weaker reserves. We have a deep team so Nelson can limit minutes. We have a team that is quick and meant to run. We are not going to win a championship with that team, but we are not going to do that no matter what we do next year. We will be a playoff team though. We will be able to beat out the Mavs (assuming they don’t make a great offseason acquisition because they are in decline with their current squad) and Phoenix (who are now a year older), and possibly Denver if age takes its toll on Chauncy.
How can anyone who has watched this team not want to try and see a full season of Wright, Randolph, and Morrow before possibly making a horrendous mistake by trading them just to get rid of Maggette or Crawford just to get another crappy contract?

Enough said! You know what your getting from Ellis each night, and with Jamal you can’t say the same. He can take his good attitude and go play with the Clippers for all I care! The guy can shoot(inconsistently), but he can’t defend, or rebound…We have enough scorers, we need some role players, and Monta is one that can play all aspects of the game well, pluse he’s improving. I can’t believe this is even an arguement to be honest with you!