This year and the next.
by JBreezy on Apr 13, 2009 4:39 PM PDT
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PrintFirstoff, I just joined this blog but i've been reading it since last season -
And i'd like to quickly thank everyone on it for yet another great year. Tough one i admit. Thanks again everyone, without you cats i might not have made it through this year.
But i'd like to look ahead to the coming year -
What should we do?
I'm loving watching the young players, especially that utah game and it gives me hope for the future. So what do we do? Who should we draft? Who should we keep? Who should we play?
I guess it really comes down to our... management -.-
and Nellie but just want everyone's opinion.
As for me - this is what i want to see
1. Ellis - CJ
2. Capt. Jack - Morrow
3. Buik - Maggs (if he's still here)
4. Randolph - Wright
5. Beans - Turiaf
And Kurz wherever he fits.
And i was thinking, what if we decided to draft someone like Ty Lawson? and move Ellis back to the two (where he kinda belongs)
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why doesn’t anyone show love to belinelli? i think he could flourish as an above average combo guard. he is not a selfish player, though sometimes he may get a little trigger happy with three’s. if he worked on his penetration over the summer, he could be a jack of many trades (shooting, handling, passing, and defense to some extent)
if he worked on his penetration over the summer,
that’s what I’d like to do.
Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Apr 14, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions
cj prolly wont be back
an if we get ty he wont start right away prolly be montas bak up but will eventually start
cj will be back
he’s a restricted free agent. I’m guessing it will be much like buike last year
by T-Money on Apr 13, 2009 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions
CJ will probably return
Nellie likes him, he is a capable backup, and doesn’t cost much.
I think the truth is that monta won’t be our starting PG but the SG.
only if we dont pik 1 up
or if our rookie point is any good cuz well get 1 in 1 of the 2 rounds.but hey nellie liked barnes….an baron…an j rich…..look wut happened there
we dont need him either
well we could have played with 6 players and smart last few games?
Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Apr 14, 2009 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Package Monta + Others
For Amare or Bosh.
Brandon Jennings or Ty Lawson. A Warrior in 09.
With the 6th Pick in the 2009 MLB Draft, the SF Giants pick Donovan Tate.
Andre Smith in Silver & Black in 2009.
Yes Please
Brandon Jennings or Ty Lawson. A Warrior in 09.
With the 6th Pick in the 2009 MLB Draft, the SF Giants pick Donovan Tate.
Andre Smith in Silver & Black in 2009.
nah
we dont need another big
Beans – Turiaf
Randolph – Wright
no room.
Let them develop
we shouldn’t rush and try to change the team so fast. We’ll end up like the kings =P (i live in the sac area…)
We're more crowded with our guards and 3's
So we free up a spot and add an all star
Brandon Jennings or Ty Lawson. A Warrior in 09.
With the 6th Pick in the 2009 MLB Draft, the SF Giants pick Donovan Tate.
Andre Smith in Silver & Black in 2009.
the guards are more “crowded”, but they’re less good. we are set with a good player for years to come with monta in the 1-3, but a front court of biedrins/turiaf and randolph/wright gives us very good players as starters and very respectable backups. our backcourt on the other hand has a bit of the three stooges effect, but with merely okay players.
jack, maggs, and morrow seem to be the best of the bunch outside of monta, but there’s plenty of room for improvement in the backcourt. i think monta can run the point successfully, but the team still needs another guard or swingman to play anywhere from 1-3 (sliding monta back to the 2 if we get a good point guard). it’s a need area if this is going to be a contender in the coming years.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
If anything is our strength it's our backcourt
1’s: Ellis, Morrow, Watson, Crawford
Swings: Jackson, Buike, C-Mag, Marco
Brandon Jennings or Ty Lawson. A Warrior in 09.
With the 6th Pick in the 2009 MLB Draft, the SF Giants pick Donovan Tate.
Andre Smith in Silver & Black in 2009.
Goes back to my point were
We’re we get an all-star PF for a quantitative amount of players
Brandon Jennings or Ty Lawson. A Warrior in 09.
With the 6th Pick in the 2009 MLB Draft, the SF Giants pick Donovan Tate.
Andre Smith in Silver & Black in 2009.
leaving us with fewer decent players at a position where we need good players? don’t get me wrong, i’d love an all-star pf, but where do we put randolph in that situation? or biedrins (depending on the lineup)? it’s a good problem to have, but i’d rather get an all-star at a position where no one who is/should be a very good nba starter gets displaced. we have two such starting lineup spots open, the backcourt spots alongside monta ellis (i’m counting the sf position as basically a guard slot. the sf position is more like another off guard than it is like a pf on most teams, and definitely on this team).
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
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What we have at 1-3 is more than adequate. CJ may leave and we can look to get a Posey type player who can defend and shoot the 3.
Brandon Jennings or Ty Lawson. A Warrior in 09.
With the 6th Pick in the 2009 MLB Draft, the SF Giants pick Donovan Tate.
Andre Smith in Silver & Black in 2009.
i would actually really want to keep cj around. he’s a good cheap backup point guard. if we can find someone better for a similar price, then great, but really, right now we have ellis as someone who can play the point and a bunch of off guards.
i refuse to count crawford because i don’t want him on the team, he’s our worst guard and is way overpaid.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
cj isnt the passer we need as a backup
i like him but right now we have alot of players we dont need
how many of those guys do you really get excited about? it’s just ellis. the rest are just adequate rotation guys/borderline starters. we need another really good player there to compete at a high level.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
Jackson is top 40 in efficiency
-C-Mag was doing well at 6th man and was briefly considered a 6th man candidate
-Morrow is leading the league in 3PT%
-Buike is right behind Morrow and is one of our best players in the past few games.
-Crawford gives us a solid 20 P/G. And when he scores 29+ We’re 7-6
-Watson was a great backup in the first half of the season, recently almost got a triple double
-Marco is great all-around and has shown lots of potential
Brandon Jennings or Ty Lawson. A Warrior in 09.
With the 6th Pick in the 2009 MLB Draft, the SF Giants pick Donovan Tate.
Andre Smith in Silver & Black in 2009.
-jackson isn’t even in the top 50 in effeciency. i’m not an espn insider, so i don’t have his official slot in the rankings, but #50 is caron butler, with a PER of 18.33, jack is sitting at 16.16, slightly worse than john salmons. i’d love him to be our 5th starter, with another guard to take pressure off of him, especially as he ages.
-i like maggette as a 6th man, but i’m talking about adding a starter. his role is coming off the bench.
-morrow is another nice rotation player, but not much more than that. i love his 3 point stroke and rebounding skill, but let’s not get carried away, he’s not an all-star.
-crawford (as i’ve said 100s of times on GSoM) is a volume shooter who doesn’t rebound or defend. i want him to opt out and failing that, i want him to sit on the end of the bench in a suit for the rest of his contract.
-watson is a perfectly acceptable backup pg. once again, falls into the “solid rotation player” category.
-calling marco “great all-around” is vastly overstating what he’s done. once again, a solid rotation player.
the point is that these guys aren’t all-star material, they aren’t even high level starter at their position material. we should try to get someone who is. i’d be fine with adding more talent anywhere, we need better players, i’m just saying we aren’t that strong in the backcourt. it’s an area that needs improvement.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
by cap'n hack on Apr 13, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Backcourt? Not so much a strength as not a complete glaring weakness. Some talent that can do some things real well, but no real point guard and some high vol. shooters who don’t shoot well enough to justify the high volume isn’t enough to be a strength though.
Less of a weakness is unfortunately what passes for a strength in Warriorville.
Less of a weakness is unfortunately what passes for a strength in Warriorville.
Is it reasonable to ask for a top five player at 3 or 4 positions? Would that be a recipe for success?
Ok, let’s see what we really got?
Dris at times approaches the top 5 center area.
Rudolf might be a top five PF soon if continues his trajectory.
Could Montay be a top five SG? Seems like he was close at times last season.
Morrow is top five in 3 point shooting
Maggette must be top five in drawing fouls :>)
So? Looks like we need a top five point guard and a top five SF?
Any suggestions on how to acheive it?
Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Apr 14, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions
yet
not a single guy who is currently a top 20 PLAYER in the NBA….probably nobody in the top 30.
Thing A
that is ridiculous
Kobe. Wade. Paul. Deron Williams. Roy.
Which of those guys will he be better than?
Thing A
no one in no situation,
possibly one of those guys gets a career threatning injury in the off season due to a moped or gets put on trial for rape in colorado, but those odds seem very unlikely….
Thing B
by warriorsscore110 on Apr 15, 2009 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions
if he scores 24 with out assists then he's gottta beat out shooting guards
Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Apr 15, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
If he scores that much, he might be considered a top five GUARD (I guess that’s different from ‘guard’ without the caps lock) since ppg seems to be a trump card when most people rate players, but how he scores those points and what else he does on the court are probably more important in terms of how much he helps the team win.
No credibility
when you count Crawford and call Morrow a 1.
imo
we should try to get either: wallace, artest or odom….IF crawford opts out
and maybe package maggs + belli + (maybe wright) for someone
draft rubio at #2 pick
CJ prob wont come back, and if he does fine
PG: Ellis – Rubio/CJ
SG: Jackson – Morrow/Buki/Ellis
SF: (Artest/Wallace/Odom) – Buki/Jackson/Randolph
PF: Randolph – (Artest/Wallace/Odom)/Turiaf/Buki
C: Andris – Turiaf
+ whoever we get for maggs + belli + wright…or if wright stays make him the backup PF
either way…this is a HUGE lineup…and has deep playoff potential IMO
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
how would we get the #2 pick?
and i dunno about Wallace
and will Artest be able to run the way the warriors do?
i kinda like the odom idea
how would we get the #2 pick?
By hitting the lottery, same way any other team gets it.
Not that likely, but again … why not us?
Thing 1
by Sleepy Freud on Apr 13, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions
cause were the warriors
last time we were in lottery we had a chance at yao and got stuck with dunleavy.
JRich 23
by warriorsalltheway on Apr 13, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
so much for legends
Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Apr 14, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Thats his point,
That year Yao and Jason Williams were up to get drafted and we popped 3rd in a 2 player draft.
Thing B
by warriorsscore110 on Apr 15, 2009 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions
jason williams?
i think you mean jay williams? What he did was 10 times worse than the moped.
Prior to committing to the draft, he was still going by “Jason Williams”. He asked people to call him “Jay” seemingly to avoid confusion with the flashy pale-skinned point-guard less prone to crashing motorcycles already in the NBA.
i thought he wanted to be called jay
to distance himself from the guy that shot his chaffeur with a shotgun. or am i remembering it wrong?
this is all
hypothetical, and BEST case
and yes, odom would be my #1 choice of the 3….he fits our playstyle perfect and would be a greeat mentor for randolph
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
Odom a mentor?
You’re kidding, right? and of course the Warrior fan picks the worst defender of the three. Artest or Sheed would be a much better addition to this team
Duke grad student missing the Bay but holding it down for the Dubs from afar.
by eastbayglory on Apr 13, 2009 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions
by wallace
i meant gerald wallace
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
IMO...
the only thing that really NEEDS to happen is acquiring a pass-first PG, doesn’t even have to be brilliant. This could be done by dealing CJ/Marco/Crawford/Maggette/BWright. Keepers IMO are AR/ME/AB/RT/AM/KAz/Jack.
After tonights game
Randalph showed he can play anywhere. I like him best as a point power forward.
IMO, we need a big bruiser first to complement our skinny bigs, and a passing PG to back up Monta, and CJ might be that. A veteran would be OK, if it allowed us to reduce the number of 2s and 3s we have on the roster.
CJ does not have a place on this team
Yes, he can score, but that’s not what we need from a back-up point guard. We need a distributor, especially if Monta is our starting PG.
Duke grad student missing the Bay but holding it down for the Dubs from afar.
by eastbayglory on Apr 13, 2009 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions
+1
I think he’s playing for the Blue Jays.
Marco!
by fuller over bryant on Apr 14, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Monta can play the point
and getting a “bruiser” should not be such a priority that we give up a talented player like Bwright to do it (unless we can significantly upgrade another position in the process). As many have said on this site, I think a defensive-minded SF who can distribute, rebound, and shoot the trey is our most pressing need.
As ugly as that game was last night, how bout Randolph? Shooting, passing, handling. I was very impressed.
Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!
by Supafishal on Apr 14, 2009 7:22 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Hinrich at Point
Trade Maggs – Belly -Swap Draft Picks for Hinrich
PG Hinrich – Draft Pick
SG Ellis – Morrow
SF Jackson – Azubuike
PF Randolph – Wright
C Biedrins – Turiaf
Hinrich at Point
We don’t want Hindrich, he couldn’t keep his starting job there, we need a first rate point guard, we’ve already got a lot of second rates.
Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Apr 16, 2009 10:45 AM PDT reply actions
Why? Corey is useful as a 6th man
but hindrich is not much better than CJ or Marco at back up point so why bother? We need a first stringer not another high priced second stringer.
Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Apr 17, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
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