Recap: Warriors 72, Spurs 101 - Yeeeeeeeesh!

by Hash on Apr 13, 2009 11:00 PM PDT in Recaps Comment 84 comments

Oh man. That was just FUGLY. Let me just start by saying that I have the utmost respect for those of you who fought through regular Warriors traffic as well as A's/Red Sox traffic only to witness that abomination of a game.

It was a real pity to see the Dubs put up a display like that in their final homestand of the 2008-2009 season, but in the end, the game was oddly symbolic of the entire season. Overall a dismal display, blown chances to take control, and in the end we're left at the bottom of the league with nothing but a glimmer of hope to grab hold of.

Tonight, that glimmer was none other than Anthony Randolph. Yup. The future is bright.

Boxscore | Open Thread

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Shining Star.

I'd love to gush about the other positives of tonight, but short of CJ Watson, there isn't really much to say. This was just a really really bad game. Every team catches then from time to time (granted we may come across a few more than your average squad) and they just plain suck.

Making it our closing game at home just added insult to injury.

JUMP!

The start of the game was promising. Although our open looks weren't going down, the Warriors were showing some pretty good hustle on both ends of the floor. Offensively they were moving the ball and creating decent plays. The only problem was, they were simply missing their open looks.

On the other end of the floor, they did a fair job of keeping the Spurs at bay while they attempted to figure out why they couldn't score. Unfortunately, the Spurs cured their offensive woes before we did. And they never looked back.

For the next two quarters of basketball, we watched the San Antonio Spurs take on C.J. Watson, Anthony Randolph, and some other guys wearing the same color uniform. Surpisingly, C.J. Watson and Anthony Randolph in their best form are NOT better than the Spurs in good form. Seriously who saw that coming?!

There really isn't a ton to say about a game like this. I jotted down a few points worth noting, but any attempt at solid in-game analysis on a 34% shooting night resulting in a 29 point loss is fruitless. We were the exact opposite of ourselves against Utah in a game that ended up getting us another ping pong ball. So it wasn't a total loss, eh?

CJ through the third. I think you could have chopped off CJ's armed halfway through the second quarter and he would have started kicking in swishes. He was HOT for a while.
Quick hands from A.R. I knew he could score and I knew he could board (although tonight he did both to the extreme) but watching him pick those passes was a new one for me. This guy is turning into the complete package.
That one play. Randolph got fouled. Pull it together ref - the fans at the A's/Red Sox game next door heard that wrist slap.
Randolph's crazy 3 point play lay in in the 4th quarter? Barnett called it a Dipsy Doodle. Consequently, I laughed for the next 10 minutes. Straight.
Mason didn't just travel before his buzzer beater three at the half. He straight up moonwalked.

End of the day, none of the missed calls made a difference. We didn't lose to the Spurs tonight, we lost to ourselves. The Warriors just didn't have the fire in them and the Spurs feasted on their docile enemy. But I will tell you one thing.

They're definitely wondering who that Randolph kid is.

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Can it be anyone else? 24 points, 16 boards, 4 steals, 4 dimes, a blocked shot and a partridge in a pear tree. Ladies and gentleman, Anthony Randolph!

Let's just hope he stays away from mopeds this offseason...

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Pictures are out already.

NBA do move fast. Let’s beat the Sun. LGW!

by Shells on Apr 13, 2009 11:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

lets get to 30 wins!

btw was anyone sitting in section 122?

We Believe

by RunNdGun on Apr 13, 2009 11:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I was in 221

by warriorsrballin on Apr 14, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was there today and said goodbye to a lotta folks

Regardless of the loss, It felt like the last day of school, I wished everybody a great summer with hugs and pics. Chilled and talked with some old friends. Bought a lotta gear at the Warriors store! It was very fun. I didn’t bring a sign but peeps stilled said whats poppin’?! I was very chill and that felt real nice!

Forgive me for leaving in the middle of the 3rd… we wanted to stay till the end since it was the last home game of the season but man, that parking lot was nasty! Didn’t want 2 get caught up!

See everybody next season!

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by Tony.psd on Apr 13, 2009 11:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

RANDOLPH AS A 3!

This game should have shown people why Randolph can be a small forward in this league. The shot looked great tonight, 6 of his field goals were jumpers. However, he also showed good perimiter defense and quick hands with the steals, and also contributed 4 assists. That sounds alot like a good small forward no? The great thing is that he’s only 19, and has so much time to work on these skills. But the talent to be a 3 was on display tonight.

The dream of a Biedrins – Wright – Randolph frontcourt is alive. That is a scary athletic front court that brings shot blocking, shot altering, rebounding, and offensive efficiency. It’s ridiculously talented, and each player still has so much room to grow, so much potential.

I really really want to see it next year.

However, right now, the big thing is how great Randolph looked playing at the 3. He isn’t solely a 4, Nelson was right when saying Randolph could become a point forward.

by Lincoln Logs on Apr 13, 2009 11:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

totally agree

randolph has shown tons of potential as a possible 3…we’ll see how things turn out next season!

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by LostHawk on Apr 14, 2009 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Seconded

Most, if not all, of Randolph’s jumpers were nothing but net. He didn’t force anything up and was the only Warrior who could regularly take advantage of open looks tonight.

by ryogahibiki on Apr 14, 2009 12:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

KG can pass, shoot, handle, and play perimeter defense- does that mean Boston is obliged to throw out a Garnett-Moore-Perkins lineup? Should Dallas start Dirk next to Bass and Damp?

I’m very happy that Randolph has these 3 skills, but they would serve him much better at the 4. His handle and driving ability can overwhelm most bigs, and combined with his midrange jumper can make him almost impossible to guard from the high post. His perimeter defense would be useful when he gets switched onto a point guard. His passing ability is worth twice as much from the post than from the perimeter.

So you can either have a deadly, versatile 4, or a sub-par 3 in terms of shooting, driving, handling, and perimeter defense. Is it worth sacrificing a little of this magical “length” to play a player where he fits?

by antihero on Apr 14, 2009 1:34 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs

exactly

Anthony Randolph out on the perimeter is not where we want him all the time. He couldn’t dribble past Udoka and Bowen on the perimeter, and because he never tried to post up, he was held to taking pull-up jumpers.

On defense, we don’t want Randolph running around on the perimeter trying to rotate to shooters and leaving the paint.. We need him around the paint as much as possible, defending the rim and getting defensive boards.

Let’s keep him at the 4. The only advantage we’d get from him being at the 3 is if he tried to score more from the post, but that’s not really his game.

"We Deserve"

by YaHeard on Apr 14, 2009 2:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think most people like the thought of having a huge frontcourt.

and being able to block and rebound everything.

but offensively we’re more efective playing two bigs and three smalls.

by gametime_gsw on Apr 14, 2009 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thats yet to be seen

There's a party in my mind.
And I wish that I was there.

by qin on Apr 14, 2009 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Our coach is Don Nelson

Randolph will play the 18.5 spot if it makes him feel better

by VERY VERY BUSY on Apr 14, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Excellent Points Antihero

I was thinking about that as well, where does he really provide the advantage, as a 3 or 4? The reason I like the idea of as a 3 is that I would love to see our 3 talented bigs on the court at the same time. Would be nearly impossible to defend, and solve our rebounding and possibly interior defense problems.

by Lincoln Logs on Apr 14, 2009 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Magnificent Seven had to end some time

Spurs defense, Spurs execution, Spurs experience, no Spurs lockeroom issues (unlike the Jazz), fatigue, emotional vacuum after the Jazz win, emotional final home game.

It all just added up to an ugly loss. Buike forced a few shots up, rushed a few shots, and generally did not look like himself. Morrow looked out of rhythm on his shots. Kurz looked like the usual Kurz, so there’s no way to know if the Jazz performance was a one time fluke or if he has developed confidence in his game. I don’t remember much out of Biedrins. Turiaf missed a lot of those long rangers.

But the two bright spots were CJ and AR. CJ is making the case that he belongs in the NBA at least as a good backup point guard, making a couple of tough looking shots and and-1s. Randolph shot his long range shots tonight with CONFIDENCE. He is quickly developing that long range threat that will draw opponents out. He had some nice steals too, particularly from the opponent’s guards. Bob and Jim complimented him on how quick he was for his size to get steals like that.

I did like how the Warriors played defense on some plays. There were a few plays where Tim Duncan had worked around his defender in the paint, and looked like he was about to be home free for a lay in, but another defender had rotated around to be there to try to stop him. Also I like how the Warriors all collapse on a driving guard and make the layup harder. There is effort being made on defense, and I don’t think the Warriors get credit for that.

Oh well, one last game to go.

by IQofaWarrior on Apr 13, 2009 11:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Parking was such a beezy

We usually are in the first or 2nd row. Tonight, we were in the 14th row. Horrible.

All I’m gonna say is that I’m glad for AR and his beast of a game.

Azubuike? More like Azucutie!

by goldenstatelove on Apr 13, 2009 11:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Yee my boy won it

Brandon Jennings or Ty Lawson. A Warrior in 09.
With the 6th Pick in the 2009 MLB Draft, the SF Giants pick Donovan Tate.
Andre Smith in Silver & Black in 2009.

by ejdacanay on Apr 13, 2009 11:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

If no trades occur...

Interesting starting five of?

Monta
Jackson
Biedrins
Randolph
Buike

Rotation 5

CJ/Drafted PG
Morrow
Turiaf
Wright (maybe) or drafted PF
Maggette

With some extras?

End result if all healthy…playoffs??? As that stands above….I think it’s borderlne again…however; if we get that pure PG (even a rookie) and maybe another VET PF? Then I think the Warrors look very promising for the future.

HOWEVER we now have a summer to go through and we all saw what happened last year…..Gulp!

I also said goodbye to a lot of truly good friends I have made this year on top of previous years…. I have not renewed my season tickets yet…..and yet to be convinced that I should. RR….. time for you to step up and start talking about projected plans rather than simply “trust us….things will change”.

It's about heart, It's about fight, It's about being a Warrior!

by BritWarriorGSW on Apr 14, 2009 12:14 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

trades will occur

its pretty much been made as a fact by the warriors….

hope it pans out well tho…

id love to see us do the following:

crawford opt out

draft rubio, ie get lucky in the draft

trade maggs + belli/wright to get odom or artest

run:

ellis
jackson
odom/artest
randolph
andris

rotation: turiaf/cj/morrow/rubio

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by LostHawk on Apr 14, 2009 12:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

what about acquiring josh childress?

i think he has an opt out clause at the end of both his first two years on that three year deal he signed with olympiacos this past summer. i think he’d be dynamite as a 2-3. he rebounds fairly well, is usually pretty active defensively, and is a smart and unselfish player that will give you 10-15 ppg at 30-32 mpg.

by fuller over bryant on Apr 14, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

i’d like that a lot actually. slot him in next to jack, it could be good. i think we might be able to get him for the mle and i’m on board with that. there’d need to be a slight shakeup to make it work with this roster, but i’d be very happy with that.

we’d probably need to make a deal to get rid of some of the clutter at the guard spots. maybe crawford+wright+maybe marco for another pf? i’m not sure what that brings in (not much, in all likelihood), but it helps us do some house cleaning and might give us someone who’s a very slight improvement over wright. it’ll come down to which teams are still enamored with crawford’s ppg numbers and if any of them have a backup pf that’d be worth acquiring, but there might be a taker.

heart of a champion, will of the warrior.

by cap'n hack on Apr 14, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think you're right about the clutter, but

I would hesitate to get rid of Wright. I think a trio of Randolph, Turiaf, and Wright (in ABC order only) is pretty OK. Between the three of those players you could have an average of 15+ points, 8+rebounds, and 3 blocked shots per game out of the 4 spot. However, I do realize that in order to get free of the clutter it may mean swallowing that bitter pill, but if the Warriors could put a package together to acquire the draft rights to Ricky Rubio…

by fuller over bryant on Apr 14, 2009 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

i’d want to keep wright too. i just think that for the sake of ditching a bad contract, we’ll probably need to lose a good player. no one is just going to take crawford off our hands. if we did trade him, we’d need to get a good backup pf to replace him in the deal or shortly after in free agency. it might not be easy to do that, so who knows what will happen?

heart of a champion, will of the warrior.

by cap'n hack on Apr 14, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Anthony Randolph...

is a ray of hope at the end of a pretty crappy year. Just for fun, and to cheer myself up, let’s do a fun comparison…
(all stats are per 36 minutes)

Player A
Age:19
PTS: 13.1
FG%: 49.1
FTA: 2.3
FT% 70.5
REB: 7.9
AST: 2.3
TOV: 1.7
BLK: 2.1
STL: 1.4

Player B
Age:19
PTS: 15.8
FG%: 46%
FTA: 4.5
FT% 72%
REB: 11.6
AST: 1.5
TOV: 2.6
BLK: 2.5
STL: 1.3

So who would you rather have?

Thing 2

by olympicmike on Apr 14, 2009 12:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

whichever one is randolph

lol

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by LostHawk on Apr 14, 2009 12:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

player b looks way better btw

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by LostHawk on Apr 14, 2009 12:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

well actually idk...depends on the position

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by LostHawk on Apr 14, 2009 12:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

whichever one is randolph

Haha, very clever. I was going to say, “whichever one is a young Kevin Garnett…” XD

It is kind of amazing, though. On the one hand you have numbers and anecdotal impressions that suggest that Randolph’s rookie campaign has been at least as productive, and at least as promising, as that of some of the all-time best players at his position (KG, the Mailman, Camby, et al).

On the other hand, you have ESPN and their rookie roundups still giving AR the dubious honor of “biggest boom/bust potential” (or however they put it), and failing to put him on any of the Top 3 rookie teams.

I maintain that if the draft were repicked today, I’d want Randolph over any of his contemporaries except for possibly Derrick Rose. Michael Beasley, with his smooth offensive moves and indifferent defense and boardwork, can go take a flying leap in the Atlantic.

Thing 1

by Sleepy Freud on Apr 14, 2009 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: biggest boom/bust potential

Seriously, he can rebound and block shots in his sleep with little chance at a loss of confidence so what is his non-injury-bust-potential? He’s the 14th pick, I would be interested as to what level of underachievement would justify a bust label.

That article you’re referencing had some embarrassingly idiotic proclamations. I think David Thorpe is broken.

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by bloodsweatndonuts on Apr 14, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

i totally agree

i dont think id take ANYONE other than randolph otu of that draft….rose is good…and currently better….but i feel like randolph has the same if not higher potential and to have someone with this kinda potential thats a BIG is far more valuable than a guard.

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by LostHawk on Apr 14, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Haha

Haha, very clever. I was going to say, "whichever one is a young Kevin Garnett…" XD

I should have known you would see right through my blind taste test. AR has shown me enough to be very excited about his future on the team. I was really happy to see his jumper falling consistently last night. He already looks to make a huge impact on the boards and defensively, and if he continues to work on it he could become a reliable option on offense. If he can do that watch out.

Thing 2

by olympicmike on Apr 14, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

So who would you rather have?

Lebron

Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Apr 14, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm guessing A is Garnett?

by ZaMzAm FiRe on Apr 14, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bingo...

Thing 2

by olympicmike on Apr 14, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

player B is gunna be an all star!

i hope :)

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by LostHawk on Apr 14, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

are those per 36

or just the last few months or something

by ZaMzAm FiRe on Apr 14, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

per 36 minutes...

Thing 2

by olympicmike on Apr 14, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

per 36, on the season

If you look only at the last few months (basically, since January), AR has been even more impressive, as he’s kept up the solid scoring and ridiculous rebounding/block numbers, while cutting down drastically on the TOs and improving gradually from the field.

Per 36 numbers by month:

Nov: 13.2 pts / 12.2 reb / .343 fg / 3.9 to
Dec: 18.8 pts / 11.2 reb / .452 fg / 3.9 to
Jan: 15.0 pts / 8.6 reb / .488 fg / 1.9 to
Feb: 19.4 pts / 14.6 reb / .500 fg / 3.3 to
Mar: 14.5 pts / 11.4 reb / .510 fg / 2.1 to
Apr: 17.2 pts / 12.4 reb / .484 fg / 1.5 to

Thing 1

by Sleepy Freud on Apr 14, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Month by month...

When you break it down like that it looks almost too good to be true. If we could erase the first two months of the season his FG% would look great. I can’t wait to see him next year.

Thing 2

by olympicmike on Apr 14, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

future 20/10'er

i hope he keeps growing at the rate he’s currently growing :)

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by LostHawk on Apr 14, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

even, dare i say

20/15

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by LostHawk on Apr 14, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Heck...

If he can produce 17pts 12reb 2.5blk and 1.5stl on close to 50%shooting over the course of an entire season I’ll be very happy with that.

Thing 2

by olympicmike on Apr 14, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think everyone would.

by ZaMzAm FiRe on Apr 14, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I dunno if anyone other than Wilt and Russel have ever done 20 and 15.

I’m not sure though.

by ZaMzAm FiRe on Apr 14, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Player A would go on to make the All-Rookie 2nd team.

Player B will get nothing!

It’s crazy to think that even guys like Garnett and Camby did not rebound well during their rookie season.

The way Randolph rebounds as a rookie is Duncan/Barkley/Rodman elite status.

"We Deserve"

by YaHeard on Apr 14, 2009 2:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Props to the Fans

They brought it all night and all season.

Milk Carton: the Warriors $63 million dollar center
21:20 min: 0 points, 6 fouls, ~~24 +/~~

That’s unacceptable. He’s a vet on this team and the highest paid non-injured player. He has to at least show up to the game. Extending him last season was done prematurely.

by Atma Brother ONE on Apr 14, 2009 8:46 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Really?

I agree that AB hasn’t quite looked himself since he returned from injury, Atma Bro, but it’s pretty unfair to trot out one game as evidence that he’s not worth his contract — especially one game in which everyone on the team except for AR and CJ played horribly. And to be fair, let’s give the whole picture of AB’s night:

21 minutes
Took only three shots.
0 turnovers.
7 rebounds, 2 blocks.
-24 plus-minus in a blowout, which is actually better than Morrow, Randolph, and CJ Watson managed.

If we’re going to single out one player for scorn, how ’bout our beloved Kelenna?

42 minutes
9 points (4-21 FG!!!)
4 rebounds
1 assist
0 steals
0 blocks
4 turnovers

But then, like AB, Azubuike’s had a really good season overall. It would be pretty unfair to make wild extrapolations about him from one game … right?

Thing 1

by Sleepy Freud on Apr 14, 2009 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs

It’s just not about 1 game. Biedrins’ defense has completely fallen off this year (witness Drew Gooden abusing him) and his offensive game isn’t anything close to where it was back in November/ December. Teams figured him out (somewhat expectedly) and he failed to continue to work on his game. Just like his complete inability to add jump shot, put on muscle, etc- his work ethic and upside is not impressive.

That’s his fault he only took 3 shots last night with all the “big guns” on this team. What does it say when last nights D-League/ walk-on roster doesn’t think it’s important to get him to ball or he’s not going to step up with that cast around him?

The Warriors simply did not need to extend Biedrins last offseason. With the way he’s finished off this season and the current NBA economy they could extend him (which I’m in favor of with a cheaper contract), he wouldn’t get close to $60 million.

And yes Kelenna was awful as well. The difference is he’s paid to be a backup/ spot starter. There’s no delusions of grandeur that he’s a crucial building block. Well maybe from the guys who were happy to run J-Rich out of town, but that’s another topic for another time (!).

by Atma Brother ONE on Apr 14, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gotta agree with ABO on this one. Andris seems like a great guy, but he’s getting scarily close to becoming Troy Murphy without a jump shot. Sure, Beans can rack up the rebounding numbers with the best of them, but he can’t guard offensively skilled centers OR power forwards.

You can do worse than a center tandem of Biedrins and Turiaf, but Biedrins isn’t worth the money he’s making due to his limitations as a player.

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 14, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

WOW!!

Didn’t Goose almost break the record for most consecutive double doubles? Isn’t this the same guy who started adding a couple of assists to his game before he got hurt? The same guy who would get passes thrown at his knees in traffic and finish? Yeah screw that guy!

I honestly think you can not make a good judgement of anybodys salray vs team worth after this season. We never saw what this team is capable of at full strength, so how can you say anybody, even Maggette, is not worth the money he’s getting?

by VERY VERY BUSY on Apr 14, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Andris obviously has skills, but I notice you didn’t mention one thing about defense in your post. A weak defender at the center position who can’t create his own shot shouldn’t be the second-highest paid player on your team.

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 14, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

AB

The thing with AB is that when you look at his game as a whole, he has so many limitations. He is a horrible foul shooter (something it looks like he’ll never really improve at). He has not shot whatsoever, which means teams can sag off him, thus giving them a pretty big defensive edge if he tries to drive inside. He isn’t very good at handling the ball (e.g. dribbling across the top of the key and throwing it to a covered teammate only to have it stolen). Lastly, he has been playing some pretty pathetic defense as of late.

As far as most consecutive double-doubles, I mean, thats really not that impressive in his case and I’ll explain why. First of all, when Biedrins had that streak going, Biedrins was almost always the biggest Warrior out there, and thus when he is playing 40 minutes a game on a bad rebounding team, you would assume that he could get 10+ rebounds pretty easily. Secondly, almost all Biedrins points nowadays, and during that streak, come from plays in which OTHER people are setting him up for easy looks. Usually they are from either pick and rolls, (which I’d argue other people could perform just as well (randolph)) or from a penetrator drawing two defenders and then dishing off to him for a dunk/layup.

The thing that bothers me about Biedrins too is that he doesn’t look like he really cares. As other posters have pointed out, he is the second highest paid player on the Warriors. Does his energy, enthusiasm, leadership and work ethic display this? No. AB looks pretty indifferent. Add in the fact that he looks pretty out of shape (does not look like he has been hitting the weight room much) and obviously hasn’t put much time/effort into developing a free throw shot/high post shot, and my overall impression of AB Is pretty lackluster.

by randolphforpresident on Apr 14, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

unfortuntately, you sold your case pretty well

and now i have built a few doubts about biedrins. i guess we’ll know for sure next year when he has a chance to be healthy again.

by IQofaWarrior on Apr 14, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Biedrins looked good earlier this year

I don’t think he’s been at all near his full self since coming back from injury the last few games. Let’s see how he looks early next year. The guy’s pretty good; he just got over $9 million a year and I think that was a good deal for the Warriors. He is limited, though. It’d be nice to see him improve the FT shooting and to get a softer touch around the rim.

by Neon on Apr 14, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

So you guys basically expect Biedrins to be playing like Dwight Howard?

He;s the best center we’ve had in years. Superstar centers do what you want him to do. Biedrins isn’t a superstar, but he is very good.

by ZaMzAm FiRe on Apr 14, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's been sooooo long

since any of us have seen him Goose play at his full strength, unless you have an amazing memory of his last 10 performances before his injurys (which were what 2 months ago) nobody can tell me this guy isn’t worth it.

And regarding his D, no he’s not a great defender, but I would love to see any other comperable big man on a team where guards are flying at him left and right because our guys can’t stay in front of their man.

No he’s not an all-star, but you know what he is???? 22, holy crap this guy has a lot of growing to do!

by VERY VERY BUSY on Apr 14, 2009 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Exactly.

Biedrins has been with the Warriors longer than anybody else currently on the team, so I guess people forget that he just turned 23 a week ago. His numbers have improved every year he’s been in the league, he averages 1.5 blocks a game, 12 points, and 11 rebounds in exactly 30 minutes a game. He’s never played with a real power forward (Unless I’m mistaken, when he first got injured, Randolph never really played), so he’s the only one defending in the paint, which makes life more difficult for him. He’s a very good player and he’s still growing.

by ZaMzAm FiRe on Apr 14, 2009 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

i don't know basketball that well,

but seriously, he should’ve made those two shots. CJ would’ve got the assists! And falling for pump fake isn’t something Andris should fall for… (but it does happened..at least to AR pretty much…but that’s AR!)

Other than boards, I don’t see him hustling much. He makes AR look very good.

But at least, he’s not letting the opponents take the ball from him in many, many consecutive games. And he’s became a better passer. (I think)

And he has a sense of humor.

by Shells on Apr 14, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

AR is 19

he wont be falling for those pump fakes for long

You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
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by LostHawk on Apr 14, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Biedrins is 22.

by ZaMzAm FiRe on Apr 14, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That’s unacceptable.

Not really, this was a meaningless game (unless we won then it might have been harmful) Dris has been out and should not be expected to return in top form for garbage time. You gotta base his season on the whole thing and overall he has been fine. Dris is not the warriors biggest problem, it starts at the top and works down.

Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Apr 14, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs

+10000000

Romes Mac Mojous

by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Apr 15, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

rec'd

Romes Mac Mojous

by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Apr 15, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ouch

our 7 players finally ran out of steam.

by mosdl on Apr 14, 2009 9:20 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

lol @ randolphs rebounds

i was at game last night and i swear i heard turiaf yell at him for taking uncontested rebounds outta his hands…. kinda funny, but thats what u get for being long.

but this is something i noticed last night…. only cj and randolph were able to create there own shots…. cj is a pg so its a given, but randolph showed some glimpses that he could be a SF….. verdict is still out

by tafkasam on Apr 14, 2009 9:39 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

he def has SF skills

but to have someone at the 4 with SF skills will be unstoppable

i think we should keep him at the 4 and trade for a legit 3….artest/odom/wallace

You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk

by LostHawk on Apr 14, 2009 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Who pissed off the Spurs?

Was it Randolph in the first quarter because after that they were like a runaway train to Routville as Warriors’ 7-men train finally ran out of steam.

At least Warriors’ fans can take solace that Randolph won’t see much bench time next season because even Stevie Wonder can see that he’s ready to start nightly in the NBA. But what will be his position? Warriors seem to have a lot of players out of position except Biedrins at center.

Barring any major changes, this should be the lineup on opening night 2009-10:

PG Monta Ellis
SG Stephen Jackson
SF Kelenna Azubuike
PF Anthony Randolph
C Andris Biedrins

Crawford is gone and Warriors will add either a PG or F through the draft. Bench will consists of Maggette, Morrow, Belinelli, Turiaf, Wright and possibly Watson. It’s nice that they all have extensive NBA experience already and can contribute nightly with the exception of the unknown lottery pick.

However, I believe Wright or Belinelli might be gone if Crawford does not opt out and will be traded instead. As for adding a premier free agent, there are very few attractive ones available for 2009 and Odom or Artest will command huge contracts so I rather the Warriors at least wait until 2010 to throw big bucks at somebody who is already an all-star.

I’d hate to jinx them, but injuries are the only thing that will deter them from contending for the playoffs next year.

Mo'ped Money, Mo'ped Problems

by Scooter Ellis on Apr 14, 2009 11:05 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Hehhehee pretty much exactly what I said above ;)

It's about heart, It's about fight, It's about being a Warrior!

by BritWarriorGSW on Apr 14, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh man. That was just FUGLY.

Haha, but I just saw something worse .Lil’Kim dancing the jail house rock. Talk about bizarre.

Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Apr 14, 2009 11:31 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

It was awesome watching Anthony Randolph

Just knowing that that’s a preview of his career was really entertaining. I already knew the game was well out of reach. I just knew Randolph was going to make some entertaining plays, and he didn’t dissapoint.

by Golden Boy on Apr 14, 2009 11:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

The bad night started before tip off

Look at Jim Barnett trying to make threes but struggling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVZw_h-geZo

Check my 49ers blogs at Mining the Gold Rush and San Francisco 49ers Examiner

by PHUT! on Apr 14, 2009 1:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

wow

even jim b was having a rough shooting night….

no wonder morrow and buki couldnt make any shots!

You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk

by LostHawk on Apr 14, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs