Artest would probably average more turnovers than Jackson if he handled the ball as much as him. Worst 3 point shooter, maybe even a worst shot selection than Jackson. And we most definitely can’t afford any of those guys unless we somehow get rid of Maggette AND Crawford.

Maybe Andre Miller takes the MLE I doubt it though.

I wanted Artest a couple years ago, but he was a better defender and a more efficient scorer then. Now he chucks threes on offense and just pushes guys around on defense. The Stephen Jackson comparison is shockingly accurate. I’m not saying he’s a bad defender now, but he’s nowhere near the lockdown guy he was 3, 4, or 5 years ago.

And we won’t have more than 6 mil to spend whether Crawford opts out or not. Odom, Artest, and Hedo (and Boozer-he wasn’t mentioned but I’m sure his name will pop up here soon if it hasn’t yet) will certainly command more than that. I suspect Ariza will make require more than that too, with a good playoff showing he certainly will. Even if he doesn’t play particularly well in the playoffs I’m sure some contender will offer him their MLE which will be more attractive than our offer. I’m guessing Andre Miller and Jason Kidd are in similar positions. They’ll get better money offers or get similar offers from contending teams. Do we really want to overpay for Grant Hill or Matt Barnes? I don’t. Our best hope for free agency is that Kidd doesn’t price himself out of our range and would rather come back home and have the chance to get a few more minutes per game than chase a title by taking MLE money with a contender. Basically free agency isn’t really gonna solve many (if any) of the Warriors problems.

they call battier and him the 2 headed snake. and he shot 40 percent on 3’s and shot the same on overall Fg. He also has been a much better career rebounder so….

I was thinking that he’s just like Jackson while I was voting on this poll. Me agreeing with you…? I think I’m gonna barf.

Jason Kidd is still a better defender than any of the guards and wings not named Stephen Jackson on our roster.

salaries don’t work. plus, i’m not sure i’d want to give up marco, any way we can work that trade with crawford instead?

i would never trade kurz for lebron

kurz is our mascott

3. Rasheed Wallace – he’s old but still provides two valuable dimensions: post defense and post scoring

The first? Sure. The second? I don’t think so. Rasheed Wallace is about the un-postiest-post that you’ll ever meet, when it comes to offense.

Bob Fitzgerald is that you?

that’s the right thinking, IMO – we need a 1 who can do the things you said

Miller is not the kinda player that would do well under Nellie. Slow, half court oriented

I don’t think we’re talking about the same Andre Miller.

I was a huge fan of picking up Odom until about 6 months ago. Now I’m not sure that even if we were able to free up the kind of money it would require it would be worth taking a lot of minutes from Randolph. If we were to free up some money Odom would require a pretty hefty and long term contract. I’m not convinced either he or Randolph is very good fit at the 3 and if you’re counting on Monta and Biedrins to join those two in the starting lineup for the next 5 years then you don’t have anyone who really stretches the defense by being much of a perimeter threat. I like Odom a lot and I’d love to see him playing under Nellie, but unless you’re planning on making Randolph a part of a deal for another veteran star I don’t think its worth it.

I agree that Ariza is not likely to get out of LA. If he does I think another contender goes after him hard.

Yea you don’t want to give Kidd too much but we’ve got pretty limited funds to work with and how long of a deal can he really be looking for? I think he’s a pretty good fit and who wouldn’t love to see one of the best Bay Area hoopsters ever finish his career here?

I don’t really have anything against Barnes but he seems like a strong candidate to get too much money for too many years. I don’t want another wing like that. For a couple mil per or for a little more money on a one or two year deal sure bring him back.

Hedo is intriguing to me. I think its pretty unrealistic to think we have any kind of a real shot at him, and yes, his D is just as bad as most of the guys we already have. But he is the rare kind of playmaking wing who would make Monta at PG much, much easier.

I totally agree about Carter. Meh, I’d take him, but I don’t think it makes us more than 1 or two wins better max.

I’m curious to see what the market for Sheed looks like. If no contender wants to deal with him and he’s looking for MLE money on a short term deal (very unlikely) I think he’s too good of a talent, and too good of a fit to not pursue.

Bibby-I really don’t know. I wrote the guy off as done a couple years ago and he continues to surprise me. He’s not a very efficient scorer, but he seems to have made Atlanta a much better team.

Boozer-probably not worth the money (not that we’d have it to give anyway)
Bosh-depends on Toronto’s asking price. One of Monta/Biedrins/Randolph plus one of Jackson/Maggette/Crawford plus one of Azubuike/Belinelli/Wright plus maybe a swap of draft picks (assuming neither of us gets a top 3 pick) and I’m probably in. More than one from that first group and I’m against it.

so anybody on the list except the ones we might be able to afford?

can u say overrated?

really?

Haha

yea he’s a free agent, but he really wasn’t very good this year. I’d probably sign him to a 2 year deal at MLE money but I don’t think I’d offer more than that.