Leon Powe?

by sam23 on May 17, 2009 5:34 PM PDT Comment 74 comments

Powe is an unresticted FA at the end of this year. He recently had microfracture surgery on his left knee and from most reports the tentative timetable for his return is the middle of next year. With the emergence of "Big Baby" Davis and Kendrick Perkins this offseason it seems doubtful Boston will make re-signing Powe a priority. Already a fan favorite around here from his Cal days/role in beating the Lakers las year, it seems that bringing Powe back to the Bay Area would be an incredibly popular move. My guess is we'd have to overpay slightly to outbid the Celtics, but considering his injury status he certainly isn't going to be out of our price range this summer. Yahoo! sports has suggested it may be difficult of Powe to even find a contract until he comes back. While he come with more than his share of injury concerns, he's proven he can bounce back from serious injuries and still be an effective player. I think he could provide a nice "change of pace" forward off the bench behind Randolph. Most importantly, acquiring a guy like Powe would make Wright a whole lot easier to trade this offseason.

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i said this at the begining of the year

it would be a great addition

ME8 for MVP

by NH101 on May 17, 2009 5:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I know its been suggested a whole lot before, but it seems a whole lot more realistic now with Davis playing so well and his injury status up in the air.

Thing A

by sam23 on May 17, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

I had been saying this too. I think he would be a good fit, as a player who wouldn’t exactly demand the most minutes but would make an impact while on the floor.

I heard yesterday tho, that he’s likely out w/ re-hab 1/2 of next season. Doesn’t seem like that great an option anymore.

by bonbrillio on May 18, 2009 7:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

why not?

we probably didn’t have much of a realistic chance at him before without actually “overpaying” by quite a bit. I’d take a chance on him with a 2 or 3 year deal while everyone else waits for him to rehab.

Thing A

by sam23 on May 18, 2009 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

You'd overpay and take a chance?

On a guy who is going through his THRID MAJOR knee injury in his career.

I’m guessing you were OK with all the other Overpaid players we signed in the last few years (Murphy, Dunleavy, JRich, Maggette, DFish, Foyle…)

The point is that you don’t know how healthy he will be. Period.

by bonbrillio on May 18, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Overpaying for Powe at 3 years / $8m is not even close to the same thing as the Murphy, Dunleavy, JRich, Maggette, Derek Fisher, OR Foyle contracts. Not even in the same ballpark.

The smallest of those deals was Fisher’s, at 6 years / $37m. This hypothetical Powe deal would be only half as long and cost less than a quarter of that deal.

by markdash on May 18, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

“overpaying” implies that we wouldn’t be actually overpaying him. the use of quotes seems to say that no matter what, signing powe will be a bargain because of those 3 major knee injuries. this isn’t a signing anywhere near the magnitude of the ones you mentioned. my guess is powe could be had for about $2M per over a couple years. if he comes back healthy sometime next year, that’s a steal.

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by cap'n hack on May 18, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

"Powe Powe Powe- er Wheels!" or "Pau Pau Pau -er Wheels!"

Chris Cohan and Robert Rowell? Oh no hide the children!

by Nuck Chorris on May 17, 2009 5:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

maybe if the Lakers lose in the next round theyll deem Pau too soft and we can acquire both.

POW POW!

Thing A

by sam23 on May 17, 2009 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I LOVE THAT!!!!

POWE POWE POWE-R WHEELS!!!! That should be WHERE AMAZING HAPPENS!

by Mr. Monday Night on May 18, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yah, I had no interest in the topic whatsoever. lol

Chris Cohan and Robert Rowell? Oh no hide the children!

by Nuck Chorris on May 18, 2009 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sure...

He would be a nice addition. I’m not sure how much of a real impact he’d have on the team, but I’d love to have a healthy Powe next year.

Thing 2

by olympicmike on May 17, 2009 5:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I think his greatest value would be in allowing us to deal Wright

Thing A

by sam23 on May 17, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe...

he’ll be healthy in time for the trade deadline, when we could send out Wright and Crawford’s almost expiring contract…

Thing 2

by olympicmike on May 17, 2009 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

not a bad idea, I meant to include in the post that we could hang on to Wright, Randolph and Turiaf til the deadline and then shop one of them.

Thing A

by sam23 on May 18, 2009 1:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

he wont get a contract before he gets healthy

or hell get a league minimum.

lets sign big baby

by tafkasam on May 17, 2009 6:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Helllllllllllllllllllllllllll Nooooooooooo

To Big Baby

by pbra17 on May 17, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Big Baby's too fat for our system.

by Golden Boy on May 17, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

-1

eddy curry is too fat for “our system” but I’m guessing Nellie wouldn’t turn down 2003 Shaq because he’s “too fat.” Big Baby isn’t any less agile than your average PF and he’s developing a pretty effective midrange game.

Thing A

by sam23 on May 18, 2009 1:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

just so the fact it’ll be back to a positive. Knowing Nellie, he wouldn’t want Big Baby just for the fact that he wouldn’t be able to run up and down with the rest of our team.

by Golden Boy on May 18, 2009 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

watch some games, big baby gets up and down the court better than your average big.

Thing A

by sam23 on May 18, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well I don't think it's worth the risk

Nellie’s known for tiring out his players. With his body, I don’t think he could endure Nellie Ball.

by Golden Boy on May 18, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

possibly true

gotta run up and down at a ridiculous pace and score 120 and still lose by 10!

Big baby could walk in and possibly be our 2nd or 3rd best defender. and i dont even think hes a great defender, but boston taught him to commit to defense. He moves laterally better than u think, and lets be honest. NO power forward is backing him down like wright and randolph lol and its take the whole shotclock to get around him.

by tafkasam on May 18, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yea, his foot speed seems pretty good.

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

"It takes a special kind of anti-mojo for a team to miss the playoffs 14 out of 15 seasons. Like, say, the Warriors under Chris Cohan."

by kenntoe on May 18, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

if big baby were playing football

he’d be the highest paid OT, at 6’9 300 lbs, quik feet.

if were to enter the NFL draft right now, even without any football experience(which i’m pretty sure he does), he’d go top ten.

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by gametime_gsw on May 18, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

ha

with no football experience he is NOT going in the top 10…I’m sure some team might give him a workout and size and quick feet are a great start for a lineman….but there’s an awful lot of technique involved too. It would basically be the equivalent of Usain Bolt playing wideout. Sure, I bet more than one NFL team would take a look at him if he expressed interest but the only way he goes in the top 10 is if the Raiders have another top 10 pick.

Thing A

by sam23 on May 18, 2009 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

al davis does like size and quikness in o linemen

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by gametime_gsw on May 18, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

He was working out for the NFL

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/27/sports/football/27davis.html

I think he realized that the money and health benefits of the NBA were such that if he could stay in basketball, he’d do it. He made it, so he’s here to stay.

"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0
R Dizzle = Wannabe AB1

by Dubs fan in Boston on May 19, 2009 6:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Davis, 21, could end up being a creative pick in the later rounds of this weekend’s N.F.L. draft.

Thats pretty much what I was saying.

Thing A

by sam23 on May 19, 2009 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know

I was pretty much just providing real evidence to back up your claim.

"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0
R Dizzle = Wannabe AB1

by Dubs fan in Boston on May 19, 2009 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Haha

Why is it everyone thinks you are disagreeing with them even when you aren’t (me included)? This happens to you more often than anybody I can think of on this site. Then again I could be reading this wrong too. =P

Thing 2

by olympicmike on May 19, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm used to it

People just can’t understand or respect the intensity of my realness.

And you’re wrong.

"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0
R Dizzle = Wannabe AB1

by Dubs fan in Boston on May 19, 2009 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

People just can’t understand or respect the intensity of my realness.

Does your sig have room for one more line?

Thing 2

by olympicmike on May 19, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'll just try to work that into my commentary more often

“No, no Nene” is just too wonderful and R Dizzle is too important to my psyche to remove him. Adding another would just make me look like Romes…

"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0
R Dizzle = Wannabe AB1

by Dubs fan in Boston on May 20, 2009 6:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

ha

I didn’t think he was disagreeing with me at all…. I definitely didn’t put that together well, it was meant to sort of thank DFiB for supporting my point.

Thing A

by sam23 on May 20, 2009 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

See OM

You’re wrong :-P

"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0
R Dizzle = Wannabe AB1

by Dubs fan in Boston on May 20, 2009 6:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

BBD likes boston

for some reason the infuriated infant seems to get where he needs to be. the midrange jumper is good and i am thinking Boston will sign him. he seems to like it there and he will get to play w/ one of the best defenders of all time. once he gets healthy at least.

http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/extras/celtics_blog/2009/05/big_baby_on_gam.html

Kick in the door waving the 4-4.....all you heard was poppa don't hit me no mo'

by CaliforniaGreen on May 19, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

people dont realize how skilled and athletic he is. His biggest weakness is his length and hieght, not his fatness. He moves around the court well, and defensively is hard to move off his spot. Has suprisingly good quickness.

his rebounding is biggest concern

by tafkasam on May 18, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

We have a system?

I dunno, but I don’t see the Warriors offense as the high-energy, up-and-down-the-floor machine that it was a year and a half ago.

Maybe it’s just that we lack the requisite ballhandlers.

by Ronaldinho on May 18, 2009 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

the warriors system is

pass me ball, i will drive to basket and ignore any option of passing.

by tafkasam on May 18, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

do it

member of the “Powe Folks” singing in

by Rob Kurz blocks Yao Ming on May 17, 2009 7:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I don't want Glen Davis on our squad at all, uggh

by freun989 on May 17, 2009 8:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Powe I def wouln't mind having though

by freun989 on May 17, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

ditto

Azubuike? More like Azucutie!

by goldenstatelove on May 17, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, I like the idea. He couldn’t serve as a Wright replacement till midseason, obviously, so if Wright moves this summer, we’d need to have another plan in the interim. But Powe seems like he could be a nice fit.

by onlxn on May 17, 2009 10:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I figure

if we can count on good health from Biedrins, Turiaf and Randolph for half a year we wouldn’t really need much more than a guy like Davidson to come in and pick up 10-15 minutes per game for a half a year

Thing A

by sam23 on May 17, 2009 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

while i like the idea of him being utilized the same way he did in Boston...

Teams rarely dish out for players when they’re hurt. And i super-duper doubt that the Warriors would pay up and take that kind of risk.

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

by kenntoe on May 17, 2009 10:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Hell yeah

As soon as I saw the video graphic of him being an ufa, i thought we should go after him.

by Golden Boy on May 17, 2009 11:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I'd pass on him

Nelly won’t play him. Leon Powe reminds me of Hendrix..

by saintdee on May 17, 2009 11:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Powe is on major knee injury number 3. He was a productive player, but a minor part on a good team, not something that will be the difference between the Warriors being a player in the playoff race or being an alsoran. Going to the bank for an injured, bench player seems like a tactical error in cap management. If we are worrying about how to find a replacement for Wright, our priorities are way out of order. If we have to ‘overpay’ even slightly for a guy with injury history to get him to come here to be a backup, something is terribly, terribly wrong. Bargain hunting for backups is a good idea. Overspending, even slightly, for what is probably damaged goods, is not.

by jae on May 18, 2009 1:14 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

but

when I said overpay, I meant simply offer more than the Celtics likely would. “Overpay” was a bad word choice. His injury status brings his price tag down significantly making him a potential bargain. If not for the injury I doubt I’d be in favor of outbidding the Celtics, because I think they would’ve made him a much bigger priority than retaining Davis. I think taking fairly low risk chance (3 yrs at 2.5 mil per?) even if it is on a guy with a major injury history is exactly the sort of bargain hunting we should be doing. Acquiring a potentially very useful backup big who is only 24 for much less than MLE money can’t be that bad of idea, right? Obviously it depends on what the market determines his value to be, but if the guy really can’t even find a contract offer this summer I think he’s the kind of guy we should be all over.

Thing A

by sam23 on May 18, 2009 2:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

big baby is much more valuable to the celtics than powe is

maybe not last year, but after what davis did in the play-offs, he’s much more valuable than powe. boston would not have been nearly as good as they were without big baby davis. powe would not have been able to keep the celtics afloat like big baby did.

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by gametime_gsw on May 18, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Powe kinda did the same thing last year. I agree Davis is probably their priority, but mostly because of Powe’s injury struggles.

Thing A

by sam23 on May 18, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

100% because of injury

its an o brainer. big baby showed alot in playoffs. Powe wont play till EARLIEST january? And thats a generous estimate.

BTW how much do we think big baby will get? I dont think boston will match an mle offer on him…. will theY? Without him they are already in luxury tax an they have rondo to pay next off season. They already have perkins, kg and scalabrane under contract. If they think kg will be back, and some1 offers big baby big money, they might look elsewhere

by tafkasam on May 18, 2009 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don’t think Davis will get the whole MLE, but I think Boston will be willing to pay more than anyone else. I can’t see there being all that much interest in him anywhere else.

Thing A

by sam23 on May 18, 2009 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I believe he is a restricted free agent with Arenas provision attached, meaning that the most anyone can offer is the MLE. No one will offer that much.

by jae on May 19, 2009 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

i wouldnt mind offering him an MLE

its the years really…. 2 years 12 mil? Why not. He’s only 23 and improving daily. Could help the 4 rotation. But its when you give a guy 4 or 5 years theres a problem.

anyway i’m bias, i enjoy watching big baby. Like his game, and his goofiness.

by tafkasam on May 19, 2009 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

one of those “if we get him for cheap, why not” / “if we don’t get him, no big loss” players.

by the evil monkey on May 18, 2009 11:04 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I still wish they would have drafted him in 2006 instead of Kosta Perovic. Yeah, that one worked out.

by barrance on May 18, 2009 5:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

or

instead of P.O’B

Thing A

by sam23 on May 18, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Heres an "way out there" idea....keep Wright !

by Only In Fairfax on May 18, 2009 5:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

tell me which of these you disagree with

1) this team needs to improve dramatically
2) we don’t have the money to improve via free agency, meaning the most likely avenue for improvement is via trade
3) we have very few valuable assets that can be used in a trade to really improve the team
4) of those valuable assets Wright and Randolph are the most duplicative
5) most agree that Randolph is more valuable to us than Wright

I’m not saying we HAVE to trade Wright, but trading him seems to be the most logical way to improve the team

Thing A

by sam23 on May 18, 2009 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

what if we trade biedrins instead?

Okafor w/ biedrins? More physical post presense who might compliment bwright and randolph. I’m not ready to throw in towel on bwright. Sure i’d trade him in a good offer (but that goes for everyone)

by tafkasam on May 18, 2009 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I see Biedrins for Okafor as pretty much a lateral move. Okafor is probably a better defender, but Charlotte would probably want us to include another piece…….like Wright.

Thing A

by sam23 on May 18, 2009 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Okafor seems like a nice guy. I bet he would compliment everyone on the team when they deserved it.

by jae on May 19, 2009 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

for some reason, that was my favorite of your compliment/complement jokes. i’m glad that you’re keeping that running gag alive.

heart of a champion, will of the warrior.

by cap'n hack on May 19, 2009 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

that was funny

Thing A

by sam23 on May 19, 2009 2:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

if only we could aquire adonal back too

have 1 of the nicest front courts in nba w/ okafor. 2 centers i’d love to have dinner with!

by tafkasam on May 19, 2009 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nay on the Yipsh shnay

No no no. First glance was an inital no. then i thought about it, and said yes. he’s a pretty good fit. Solid F which we are in need of. BUT the last thing we need is an injury prone Question mark. Don’t get me wrong, I love powe & and have rooted for him immensly, but we don’t need a situation like that.

by P-40 the Ballatician on May 18, 2009 8:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

take Powe

as much as he has done for the team he is too injury prone and that would just free up some money for the C’s to pick up another Big or maybe a wing defender. I really hope the C’s give good ol Jesus his papers and pick up a defender/shooter

Kick in the door waving the 4-4.....all you heard was poppa don't hit me no mo'

by CaliforniaGreen on May 19, 2009 10:31 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

WORST POST EVER. WE NEED A SOLID PG AND UR TALKING ABOUT A BACK UP PF. LOL U DONT KNOW WHAT YOU’RE POSTING ABOUT LOL

by lobzy11 on May 20, 2009 7:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

why do we need a solid PG when Crawford has the best HANDLZ IN THE LEAGUE AND IS GONNA BE GOOD JUST YOU WAIT I KNOW A LOT ABOUT GOOD BASKETBALL DONT TALK? And clearly we become an instant contender simply by adding a solid PG? No need to add some potentially cheap, young depth? Depth that may allow us to trade another young piece for something like a decent PG…..hmmmm, well thought out response Bronx-mutant-basketball-genius.

Thing A

by sam23 on May 20, 2009 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

CAPS LOCK PROVED YOUR POINT.

heart of a champion, will of the warrior.

by cap'n hack on May 21, 2009 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Depth is key to a great NBA team, if we could add him a 2-3 mil per year and he played half the games it would be worth it. I just cant get on board with the idea of our PF being Randolph / Wright. Powe would give us that “BEEF” that Larry R was talking about. I forgot there were so many “solid PG” floating around the leauge for 2-3 mil.

by Weedsmkn on May 21, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs