2009 NBA Draft Lottery Results + With the 7th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft the Golden State Warriors select...
by Atma Brother ONE on May 19, 2009 6:40 PM PDT
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The Warriors really could've used this guide over the years.
via www.nbamate.com
Jump for the results of today's 2009 NBA Draft Lottery and a draft kit.
2009 NBA Draft Lottery
- LA Clippers [Clips Nation]: Warriors South came up BIG.
- Memphis Grizzlies: Say goodbye to Mike Conley and hello to Ricky Rubio.
- OKC Thunder [Welcome to Loud City]: Can they spell Hasheem in Oklahoma?
- Sacramento Kings [Sactown Royalty]: This was the lowest Sacrapmento could possibly fall in the lottery. CWebb should've called a timeout. :-(
- Washington Wizards [Bullets Forever]: So much for Gilbert Arenas getting his TIm Duncan.
- Minnesota Timberwolves [Canis Hoops]: At least Kevin McHale can't mess up their draft picks anymore. What's with the zombie bear though?
- Golden State Warriors: The Warriors lost the lottery, but that's okay. They'll have plenty of chances to redeem themselves over the course of the next decade.
- New York Knicks [Posting and Toasting]: Donnie Walsh has already called LeBron James and asked him who he wants to play with in 2010.
- Toronto Raptors: Say hello to the #9 pick and goodbye to Chris Bosh.
- Milwaukee Bucks [Brew Hoop]: This isn't a very heralded draft, but I'm sure they can do better than Joe Alexander this time around.
- New Jersey Nets: Don't be surprised if Rod Thorn plucks a major find here.
- Charlotte Bobcats [Rufus on Fire]: Larry Brown and company need someone who can score more than 16.7ppg. I don't think they can find someone at this spot who can do that.
- Indiana Pacers [Indy Cornrows]: You know the Warriors could trade their 2nd round pick for the Pacers' #13 overall pick. Naw, that would be too much like this trade.
- Phoenix Suns [Bright Side of the Sun]: They didn't really belong in the lottery in the first place. As long as they keep Amare and don't blow up their squad they'll be in the real playoffs next season.
Who should the Warriors take with the #7 overall pick in the 2009 NBA Draft?
I vote:
(The guy in RED).
If you're going to suck like the Warriors do, then suck in style!
With the 7th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft the Golden State Warriors select...
Brandon Jennings!
I'll pass the mic to longtime GSoMer mcwalter44 for some more eloquent HYPE.
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so does this mean
We get baron back?
my code name is "kelenna bahongpuki"
by VonteegoCummings on May 19, 2009 6:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And what does Baron Davis think?
Straight from his twitter…
Yes!!!! Going Crazy… I’m back in the gym rt now 4 the 2nd time 2day. The curse of the clippers is over…. Let’s go clips nation!!!
Wouldn’t it be great if the Clipps took Rubio and sent us back BD?
Dream on R Dizzle, dream on.
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by R Dizzle on May 19, 2009 6:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Chris Bosh's Thoughts...
“We got the 9th pick… Surprise surprise.”
Sounds…excited?
We still believe!!
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by R Dizzle on May 19, 2009 6:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
this draft is gonna suck a&*
Memphis would love the chance to pair rubio with gasol. Spanish national team teammates. Conley anyone?
my code name is "kelenna bahongpuki"
by VonteegoCummings on May 19, 2009 7:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
yea I had the same thought. I don’t think he’s a great fit, but he certainly can play uptempo. I don’t think I’d trade Wright for him though and that seems like the minimum Memphis would ask for in return.
Thing A
by sam23 on May 20, 2009 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
except for the part about Rubio falling to 3
Thing A
by sam23 on May 20, 2009 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN's Mock Draft
Brandon Jennings it is says Chad Ford
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by R Dizzle on May 19, 2009 7:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Trade this pick unless someone really stands out in the next few weeks
by T-Money on May 19, 2009 7:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
unless someone stands out in the next few weeks nobody is going to want this pick
Thing A
by sam23 on May 20, 2009 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trade Monta for Memphis #2
And get Rubio. Obvious for Warriors. Why for Memphis? They get a guard who can play alongside O.J. , who is becoming a Brandon Roy type of player. 2 guard facilitates the offense i.e. Roy, Kobe, Turkoglu, Paul Pierce, T-Mac, etc. Monta can still play off the ball and not be a liability defensively. Also, seems like Monta doesn’t want to be around anymore, just by looking at his body language towards the end of the season. Can’t blame him though. Ricky!!!!
by MasuWarrior on May 19, 2009 7:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That's an interesting idea ...
It helps address one major need on this team, and helps balance the roster.
On the other hand, it probably makes us worse next year (we’re probably a 40 win team if Ellis is back, healthy and wants to be here), in favor of chance to improve more in the long run.
Might make sense for the Grizz, too, if they’re not sold on Rubio. Although they may want Thabeet.
by Ronaldinho on May 19, 2009 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know there's a whole lotta love for Rubio around here
but he looks like he’s robby benson in a bad movie … he doesn’t strike me as a legit PG in the association …
by hardcore on May 19, 2009 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know...
I think I’d rather have Ellis & Jennings than just Rubio. Biedrins, AR, Jax, Ellis, & Jennings starting 5? I like it.
by Gob on May 19, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well in his proposed trade we keep the #7 pick too so we could have Rubio and Jennings…or Rubio and Clark….or Rubio and Harden
Thing A
by sam23 on May 20, 2009 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like Memphis takes just Monta for Rubio
Dream on folks. We’d at least have to throw something in. Now, if Monta was coming off his 07-08 season, it’d be a legit proposal. But Memphis is not going to accept 08-09 Monta without proof that he’s recovered from his injury, and you can’t get that until you see him in an NBA game.
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by Dubs fan in Boston on May 20, 2009 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ya they would get our #7 too. Monta and our #7 is pleanty to do it!
by dungeness crabdribble on May 21, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's way too much.
If they give us Conley or their later pick or something, then maybe.
"No no Nene!"
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by Dubs fan in Boston on May 21, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like this idea.
I have a bad feeling about Monta’s continuing frustration and his growing arrogance towards the Warriors organization. Or draft Tyreke Evans to run w either Monta or Crawford.
by onetwocross on May 20, 2009 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we hadn’t seen Crawford this year I’d be a lot higher on Evans…the similarities scare me.
Thing A
by sam23 on May 20, 2009 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
6'7" combo guard
He got a lot of play at PG during the second half of Memphis’ season last year and was great. Evans’ handles are legit and he showed a great knack for passing.
by onetwocross on May 20, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If by 2.0 you mean an improved version then..
I’d take him in a heart beat. Crawford is like the tin woodsman from the wizard of oz. He’s just lacking a little heart (and defensive ability). From what I’ve seen of Evans on youtube and while at Memphis he looks like a solid starter in the NBA. I doubt he’d be an all-start, but he should be able to play the point better than Crawford and hopefully be able to guard the opponent’s shooting guard or small forward on defense.
A Sonics fan without a team.. Though I'm auditioning GS Warriors this season.
by mcwalter44 on May 20, 2009 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Poor kings.
I know some people consider them a rival…but I always considered them more like our hillbilly country cousin. The one you see at thanksigiving who is a nice guy but slightly retarded. Anyways the are probably already sittting around brainstorming for lottery 2010- JOHN WALL!!
by tafkasam on May 19, 2009 7:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
holiday
defense, defense defense! vision, high potential, THE SIZE TO PLAY ALONG SIDE MONTA!
holiday makes the most sense if we actually want to compete
if we want to just run around and score a million points and lose by even more, then sure…go with BJ
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by LostHawk on May 19, 2009 7:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I doubt Evans or Holiday even going in the lottery.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 19, 2009 7:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
where do u make this stuff up?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2009/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=PreDraftTour-090518
sound about right for what everyone has said about holiday….
his stock is on the rise! i predict…top 10….hopefully to us at 7
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by LostHawk on May 19, 2009 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
JRUE HOLIDAAYYY
or Brandon hes awesome
by gswfan2 on May 19, 2009 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yesss
holiday…clark…jennings…harden (but he wont get to 7…def top 5)….evans…id even be down with derozen
but personally…i think the best realistic bet would be on holiday….jennings + ellis backcourt will be as bad as ellis crawford….
ellis + holiday backcourt actually sounds really good on both ends
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by LostHawk on May 19, 2009 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
anyone but evans..
dont need a ball hog of a PG that is kinda like a bigger monta
by gswfan2 on May 19, 2009 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How can you be happy with DeRozan and not be happy with Jennings? DeRozan’s defense can’t be as bad as Jennings’ and at least Jennings is a true point guard.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 19, 2009 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
derozen is a SG/SF...
not a PG
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by LostHawk on May 19, 2009 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The wing is a position that we do not need filled because it already is filled.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 19, 2009 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
its not filled at all...
maggette is trash that we need to throw out
buki is a backup
jackson we want at the 2 ideally
we are weak at the starting SF position…
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by LostHawk on May 19, 2009 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maggette is a good player when coming off the bench.
I don’t see Jackson at the shooting guard spot at all with Ellis there.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 19, 2009 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, but
if ellis turns out to become a good PG…jackson will stay at the 2
but this is unlikely…thats why gettin an SF will only be needed if ellis actually becomes our PG
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by LostHawk on May 19, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is unlikely and Jackson will be our small forward with Ellis as our shooting guard to at least begin the 2009-2010 season.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 19, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
??
u mean jack at SG?
im just sayin…we dont know what the team is doing with ellis yet….if hes going to be at the point or the SG position…
if he ends up at the point…we are weak at the SF position
if he ends up at the SG….we are fine at the SF and weak at the point
it all depends on whats going to happen with the team…im just sayin…if we get derozen…it’d mean ellis at the point
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by LostHawk on May 19, 2009 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
maggettes a black whole who kills the trust and ball movement..
we need to trade him for anyone
by gswfan2 on May 19, 2009 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree because I don’t think he kills the ball movement any more than Jackson does. At least Maggette is efficient by scoring over 20 points per game and puts the opposition in foul trouble.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 19, 2009 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea but stack jack makes plays and is the teams one true emotional leader
so the eventual fastbreak 3 you gotta let go
by gswfan2 on May 19, 2009 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he barely makes plays
maggette is better than jackson. bellinelli is a better playmaker than jackson. so is crawford, so is ellis. for gods sake turiaf and biedrins have better ball movement than jackson. at least maggette scores efficently(no matter your oppinion) scoring at 50 fg with tons of free throws is good anytime.
Cause Havoc. Bring Nash in and 120 point games will be very expected
by montadaboss on May 19, 2009 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ur joking right?
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by LostHawk on May 19, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great arguments guys
I didn’t see it before, but now that you’ve opened my eyes with your poignant commentary, I have to concede the point. You’re an excellent debater, gorillas. I don’t think montadaboss was joking, but you’re right LostHawk, he totally should have. You guys are awesome.
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by Dubs fan in Boston on May 20, 2009 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
do u watch games?
jackson is one of the leading distributors on our team…
yes he does take a lot of shots….but dont compare him to maggs…
maggs never moves the ball
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by LostHawk on May 19, 2009 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I do not watch the games. That’s why I’m here. I like Maggette off the bench and would rather have Jackson dealt than have Maggette dealt. I know I am in the minority with that one, but that’s just how I feel. People have different opinions about things regarding their team. It’s sort of like politics.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 19, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
so...
you’d rather have a ball hog that is a black hole…and a terrible defender…and injury prone…
than an excellent man to man defender…that can pass pretty well and be an offensive threat…and has gotten decent at rebounding too??
i dont understand your logic AT ALL
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by LostHawk on May 19, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
for me, the big difference is
if we got peices in place and jack can be a #2 or #3 option he looks great. Maggette is still the same mediocre player in that situation
by tafkasam on May 19, 2009 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My logic is that I like having a 20-point scorer coming off the bench.
I like Jackson, I really do, but Maggette doesn’t stop the ball movement any more than Jackson does. I don’t have a problem with Azubuike starting and then having Maggette being his backup. I’d trade Jackson and and our draft pick to move up in order to take Rubio.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 19, 2009 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
w/e
there is no point in arguing with delirium….back to my original point…
HOLIDAY!
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by LostHawk on May 19, 2009 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jennings!
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 19, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“an excellent man to man defender…that can pass pretty well and be an offensive threat…and has gotten decent at rebounding too??”
Wow, wrong on so many levels. First of all, Jackson’s off the ball D is as bad as anyone in the entire league. Second of all, WHEN he’s trying on D (which isn’t that often), he can guard his man IF it’s a good matchup for him. This basically means anyone that is slower than him. Like Dirk. He’s terrible at the 2, because he’s slow for a 2. If by offensive threat you mean…takes so many shots he scores some because hey, some of them are going to go in, right? And as for rebounding, that’s laughable. Jackson is a terrible rebounder. Hollinger’s stats at ESPN have him ranked at the #46 best rebounder out of 60 at the SF position.
by Missing Barry on May 20, 2009 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey
jackson has his flaws…
but he is >>>>>>>> better than maggs
DEFENSE….PASSING….PASSION!!!
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by LostHawk on May 19, 2009 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ya he does but hes not good at it. he tries but his swing passes are bad but so are jacksons 4 turnovers
Cause Havoc. Bring Nash in and 120 point games will be very expected
by montadaboss on May 19, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jackson isn’t on the trading block, so that kills it right there. He isn’t a distributor. He played the point out of necessity last year, hence all the turnovers. Playing the point was probably a blessing in disguise, giving him the ability to find a few ways TO distribute the ball, in order to give the PG a rest, or to run a few plays for the PG off the ball. It was a good experience for him, but he’s definitely a SF.
Maggette and Crawford seem like the logical pieces to go. Their contracts make it hard for that to be done. The W’s do have a log jam at the 2 or 3 spot with quality players… they just aren’t stars, and we only need maybe one of them. Jackson, Maggette, Azubuike, Morrow… and even Crawford. The only guy you NEED to keep is Captain Jack. You gotta have a locker room leader to get the guys ready, and that’s what he does.
Azubuike and Morrow are decent, young role players that the Warriors can build on… but I think you only need one of those guys going forward. I think you need to give them both another year to figure out which one you want to keep.
by aBulldog on May 20, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holiday “could” be going high, so he’s a lottery pick now? And where’s Evans?
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 19, 2009 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
holidays def top 15 evans is a top 10 pic
by gswfan2 on May 19, 2009 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look at who’s picking. Besides the teams that grab Rubio and Jennings, there are just one or two teams that may look at a point guard and those teams are New Jersey and Phoenix.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 19, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sactown.minesoda.us..milwakee if they choose to sign villenuava instead of sessions.
so thats 6 in the top 15
by gswfan2 on May 19, 2009 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Milwaukee was more sold on Ridnour than they were on Sessions. Ridnour started and Sessions was on the pine.
Sacramento counts as one of those teams that could get Rubio or Jennings since they’re picking so high.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 19, 2009 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
there #4 trust me rubios not gonna be there lol come on you know that too
and ridnour sucks come on
by gswfan2 on May 19, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rubio doesn’t have to be there at the fourth pick. The Kings may just go ahead and take Jennings, then, or go elsewhere with a James Harden or something.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 19, 2009 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
holiday will continue to rise...
he was top 5 the first half of the season…dropping because he was forced to play SG instead of PG, his natural positon
and like baron…he does better in an uptempo system…UCLA is the oposite of that….like LAC
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by LostHawk on May 19, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BTW what does everyone think of this trade....
maggette + randolph + belinelli + #7 for Baron + #1.
I dunno if I even like it, but i think if we really wanted blake griffin, theyd have to reallllly consider this offer. They’d get a potential (key word POTENTIAL) cornerstone 4. a good young SG, maggette back and with #7 a pg which is what they wanted all along
by tafkasam on May 19, 2009 7:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Never.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 19, 2009 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
wtf why in gods name would the clippers trade the #1 pick
Gerald Madkins
by gorillas on May 19, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually the question i should be asking is “Why would you want to trade randolph?!”
Gerald Madkins
by gorillas on May 19, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
randolph for Griffin? I’d probably do it. Clippers wouldn’t.
Thing A
by sam23 on May 20, 2009 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
read below posts....
ome people think randolph is better, if clippers r of that thought its intriguing to them to get a pf and pg in this trade + maggette… its all about there value of randolph. keep in mind randolph is younger than griffin.
im not sure how i feel still about it, but its an interesting convo
by tafkasam on May 19, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
don’t you dare mention randolph’s name in ANY trade.
by vinchenzy on May 19, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
anthony randolph+stephen jackson+corey maggette for lebron james+jj hickson.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
by cap'n hack on May 19, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clippers are saying the same thing about Blake Griffin right now
Thing A
by sam23 on May 20, 2009 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
james harden
i keep saying it. He is going to be a superstar. rookie of the year i see.
by cjwatson23 on May 19, 2009 7:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
harden will get picked
before #7….way before….. 4 or 5
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by LostHawk on May 19, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe even 3
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by LostHawk on May 19, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s a possibility, but if I’m the Thunder, I am set with Westbrook, Durant and Green back there. Therefore, I’d just go ahead and take Thabeet or Hill. I think Hill has more potential than Thabeet.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 19, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
thunder will trade rubio for griffin if they can get rubio and clips get griffin
by gswfan2 on May 19, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What are you saying? I don’t get it.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 19, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think that if the clips draft griffin, and okc lands rubio that okc would offer rubio for griffin
by gswfan2 on May 19, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That actually does make sense.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 19, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
westbrook is 1, durant is best at the 3, and green is an undersized 4 (antawn jamison). You can supplement and help greene w/ thabeet at 5…. or u can take harden @2…. a good passing 2 guard who would compliment westbrook and durant
by tafkasam on May 19, 2009 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
there is a possibility if thunder dont take him 3 he could falll to 7.....
if okc take thabeet…. kings @4 r more inclinded to take a pg (jennings) or jordan hill. wiz @5 could take hill, but assuming ings take pg (more likely) they will take jordan hill. Leaving #6 minnesota. They definitely could take harden, BUT they could also b high on demar derozan who many thing might have most upside in draft.
by tafkasam on May 19, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
o
i know. but he would be my dream to get on this team.
by cjwatson23 on May 19, 2009 7:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Monta Ellis for The 2nd pick!!..Golden State Warriors Take Ricky Rubio
by Kenny Wayne on May 19, 2009 8:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i see rings in the future
harden
ellis
jackson
Randolph
biedrins
by cjwatson23 on May 19, 2009 8:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i see the lottery...lol harden aint no PG neither is monta
by gswfan2 on May 19, 2009 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know
harden isnt a pg thats why i had to put him there. monta is def not playing pg on my team. You all doubt me like you doubted me about carmello. DAMN you all I damn you all.
HARDENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
by cjwatson23 on May 19, 2009 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HARDENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
Gone by pick number SEVENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN… so, how exactly are we going to acquire him?
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by Dubs fan in Boston on May 20, 2009 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then again
They were all saying Crabtree would be gone by 10, so you never know.
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by Dubs fan in Boston on May 20, 2009 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You see rings with a lineup consisting of:
harden
ellis
jackson
Randolph
biedrins
Really? Do you know anything about basketball? Jackson is old and getting worse, nobody on that entire team can create a shot for anyone else. There’s no D on that team. There’s no post threat. There’s a serious rebounding deficiency. Where exactly does that translate into a good team?
by Missing Barry on May 20, 2009 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
MOCK DRAFT
1. Clips – Griffin
2. Grizz – Rubio
3. Thunder – Hill
4. Kings – Jennings
5. Wiz – Harden
6. Wolves – Derozan
7. Dubs – Holiday
by gambinofam on May 19, 2009 8:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Possible Trade
1. Clips – Griffin
2. Grizz – Hill
3. Dubs – Rubio
4. Kings – Jennings
5. Wiz – Harden
6. Wolves – Holiday
7. Thunder – Thabeet acquire Ellis via trade
by gambinofam on May 19, 2009 8:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
why would hill get picked at #2??? that makes no sense
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by LostHawk on May 19, 2009 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I think his logic is that the Grizzlies need a big man and Hill is second on a lot of people’s big board as far as big men are concerned.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 19, 2009 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the Grizz are targeting Hill
They’ll trade out of #2 because there are many teams interested in Rubio. We’d have a better chance of getting the Grizz to accept Monta in trade for their pick than the Thunder.
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by Dubs fan in Boston on May 20, 2009 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, the Thunder could be looking at Hill with the third pick as well.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 20, 2009 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The more and more I look at it, if the Warriors have their heart set on a point guard, it may just have to be Holiday with the legitimate reality of Rubio and Jennings off the board.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 19, 2009 8:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i had a weird dream last night....
somehow we traded okc @3 for harden (yes in my dream they had #3) and picked jennings @7 then had future backcourt
by tafkasam on May 19, 2009 8:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
there go Rubio in a warriors jersey.
time to trade the wright. We take Conley thou.
by warriorfan4life on May 19, 2009 8:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Brandan Wright for Mike Conley?
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 19, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it can happen. but not likely.
by warriorfan4life on May 19, 2009 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, the Grizzlies could keep their point guard and just take another big man with a lot of potential in Jordan Hill.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 19, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You missed a number there
= 0 championships
Is what you were writing, right? Right now, LeBron = 0 championships. LeBron wins 5 championships before Melo wins 1… and that puts Melo at 29 or something… he’s got a tough climb ahead of him to win a championship. Good player, and he’s maturing, but LeBron will not back down easily
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by Dubs fan in Boston on May 20, 2009 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Early Lottery Mock Draft 2009:
1.) Los Angeles Clippers — Ricky Rubio, PG/Spain
2.) Memphis Grizzlies — Blake Griffin, PF/Oklahoma
3.) Oklahoma City Thunder — Jordan Hill, PF/Arizona
4.) Sacramento Kings — Brandon Jennings, PG/United States of America
5.) Washington Wizards — James Harden, SG/Arizona State
6.) Minnesota Timberwolves — DeMar DeRozan, SG/USC
7.) Golden State Warriors — Jrue Holiday, PG/UCLA
8.) New York Knicks — Hasheem Thabeet, C/Connecticut
9.) Toronto Raptors — Earl Clark, SF/Louisville
10.) Milwaukee Bucks — Wayne Ellington, SG/North Carolina
11.) New Jersey Nets — Chase Budinger, SG/Arizona
12.) Charlotte Bobcats — James Johnson, SF/Georgia Tech
13.) Indiana Pacers — Gerald Henderson, SG/Duke
14.) Phoenix Suns — Jonny Flynn, PG/Syracuse
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 19, 2009 9:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
seems very likely
and i personally think it would be a good situation for the dubs…
have LAC trade to give us baron….
have baron run the show for a few years with holiday commin off the bench…
then have holiday start a few years down
baron – holiday
ellis – morrow
jackson – buki
randolph – wright
andris – turiaf
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by LostHawk on May 19, 2009 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d rather have the point guard that we draft play right away with the young core.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 19, 2009 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'd rather go to the playoffs
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by LostHawk on May 19, 2009 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sac's biggest need is a PG so watch them take
brandon jennings and screw he warriors
by ineemoney21 on May 19, 2009 9:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That’s what’s going to happen if Rubio goes first. If Rubio doesn’t go first, three big men (Griffin, Thabeet and Hill) will go in the top three allowing the Kings to take Rubio and the Warriors to take Jennings.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 19, 2009 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats not screwing the warriors
its saving the warriors!!
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by LostHawk on May 19, 2009 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DeMar DeRozan DeMar DeRozan DeMar DeRozan DeMar DeRozan DeMar DeRozan DeMar DeRozan need i say more
by Northernlife14 on May 19, 2009 9:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Need you say more? Well, you need to explain why because I think the overwhelming majority here would oppose that pick.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 19, 2009 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
am i the only one that thinks the name hasheem thabeet rings as a bust?
Gerald Madkins
by gorillas on May 19, 2009 9:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Completely agree, though Chad Ford’s latest profile on him made me rethink my position.
by Missing Barry on May 20, 2009 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Need a BJ?
no not that BJ…
really? B. Jennings? that guy is skinner than monta, which likely means just about the same type of defense. and have you guys checked his stats in the EuroLeague? not stellar. last time i checked he wasn’t even starting. yeah, sure at Oak Hill he was tearing ppl up, but so what, he doesn’t have the skills to be competitive on the level down from the NBA, so what is he going to do in the big show? hey, with this weak draft, i think we’re better off with a trade of some salary relieving action that moves us down the draft or possibly to an unwanted (low-cost) vet. then again, co-ro-wellie will prob mortgage more of our future to get rubio (or nash) or another project to get folks to re-up those season tixs. keep believing.
by blah_2u on May 19, 2009 9:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The EuroLeague is weird like that, sometimes. Keep in mind he’s playing against pretty damn good competition, in a really comptetive league on a big time team that has good players already, and wants to win now (especially since they have no incentive to try to develop Jennings for the future). His skills are nasty. I saw him play at Oak Hill, kid can pass, kid can shoot, pretty good floor vision. He was playing good high school competition, too, Ed Davis was on the other team, along with a kid that had a scholarship from VCU (the year after VCU took down Duke in the tournament). The kicker, though, is he’s quick as shit. Think Tony Parker quickness. He can get anywhere on the floor he wants anytime he wants. It’ll probably take a while for him to develop into a really big time PG, though, much like Parker. Jennings falling to the Warriors would be huge.
by Missing Barry on May 20, 2009 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Larry Riley's Wife
is kind of a MILF/ GILF
by highflya on May 19, 2009 9:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
wow.... kind of.....
no!!! her pounds of makeup are hard to ignore.
Cause Havoc. Bring Nash in and 120 point games will be very expected
by montadaboss on May 19, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you guys need to go out more....seriously
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by VonteegoCummings on May 19, 2009 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i work at a place where milf’s come in and out all day. i’ve learned to appreciate.
by vinchenzy on May 20, 2009 1:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trade down for Lawson
Why not trade down for Ty Lawson? He’s a true point guard who can hit the big shot and play legit defense.
Jennings is not a good fit on our roster. He’s just another Crawford at this point and obviously Craw didn’t help much last season in terms of making the playoffs.
Spree for three!!
by peteb24 on May 19, 2009 10:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
id rather have holiday
DEFENSE
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by LostHawk on May 19, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Jennings a lot but he would be a bad fit most likely.
Monta and him would make for a very small backcourt. Might be able to get away with it if Randolph , Wright and Biedrins are playing together.
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by houseofprime on May 19, 2009 10:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
My draft order if available at 7
1. Tyreke
2. Derozan
3. Jennings
4. Holiday
Think of how much of a defensive liability a Jennings/Ellis backcourt would be. Tyreke is what we need. Ty Lawson is athletically average at best and has foot concerns. He played great in the tournament, don’t get me wrong, but there’s a reason he’s not a top 10 pick.
by phiLthyphiL on May 19, 2009 10:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
id have
1. holiday
2. jennings
3. tyreke
4. derozen
out of the people that will realistically be available at 7
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by LostHawk on May 19, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
trades
gang, the whole top of the draft is fubar for what teams need, there’s gonna be some kinda big trade – or more than one … this isn’t likely the final draft order …
by hardcore on May 19, 2009 11:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Dream scenario
I don’t think it’s too farfetched to think that the clips could select rubio number one. They frontcourt would be pretty crowded with zrandolph, camby, kaman, rookie deandre jordan, and now griffin. Unless they can deal camby which would be difficult, it’d be tough to get all them minutes. Griffin could make them more competetive but baron would be still be doing a shitty job of running the show for a coach who doesn’t like him and a system where he can’t flourish and just straight up sucks. Seems to me like rubio could solve a lot of problems for that squad. he would do what dunleavy wants him to do no questions asked. Tell me if I’m living in a dream world or if i’m just stupid cuz I don’t think I am
by waitillnextyear14 on May 19, 2009 11:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Drafting Rubio #1 would be stupid. Griffin is a stud. You don’t pass up on a guy like that, especially when you aren’t good like the Clippers, just to fill a need. You take Griffin and figure out the best way to build around him for the future.
by Missing Barry on May 20, 2009 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trading down seems to be a better option......
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by VonteegoCummings on May 19, 2009 11:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
draft
Johnny Flyn from Syracuse University
by norcalsports on May 19, 2009 11:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m riding the Earl Clark bandwagon early, but I reserve the right to jump off at any time.
Thing A
by sam23 on May 20, 2009 12:35 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Earl Clark?
Do you want another tweener forward on our team who wouldn’t have a role and would take 3 years to develop. We need him the least out of any prospect
by waitillnextyear14 on May 20, 2009 1:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
do you think this team is going to contend for a championship within the next 3 years? Are Wright or Randolph really tweeners? To me, both are pretty clearly 4s. Neither one of them has ever had much success playing the 3 in college or in the NBA, and both have been fairly effective 4s. Earl Clark certainly has some work to do on his outside game, but a big guy who projects to be a strong defender and passer certainly seems like a useful piece.
Thing A
by sam23 on May 20, 2009 2:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
we need
carmello at the 3 and then the warriors are the best basketball team in the world!!
by cjwatson23 on May 20, 2009 7:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Jrue Holiday at #7?
Are you guys serious? I’ve watched him play a year at UCLA, and #7 is way too high. He’s not even the best guard on the team.
Bay Area Bruin.
by Yoyo on May 20, 2009 8:38 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Neither was Russell Westbrook. Remember he only played one year of college…
by Missing Barry on May 20, 2009 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Two years
Russell Westbrook played two years. In that second year he mastered driving to the rim and lockdown defense. Jrue can drive to the rim, but he certainly can’t play defense.
Then again, no defense probably works on this team.
Bay Area Bruin.
by Yoyo on May 20, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
people get drafted
based on potential
and he already has excellent man to man defense…
and at UCLA he was being forced to play the SG cuz collison was still there…even tho his natural position is PG
also…according to the ‘draft experts’ he doesnt fit well in the slow paced UCLA offense…ie: would be better with the dubs kinda offense!
the guy can finish at the rim….defend man to man…and has vision….his jump shot will only get better…and a lot of people think he has tons of potential
biggest thing for me is….he’s big enough to play along side monta….and he is an excellent man to men defender…helping with our biggest weakness (dribble penetration)
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by LostHawk on May 20, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Potential is overrated
Potential gets misjudged so often in the NBA draft that I don’t have much faith in it.
Here are my thoughts about Jrue Holiday as a UCLA fan: He can’t defend man to man if his life depended on it. Pac-10 guards kept scorching him; I always wanted Malcolm Lee at SG in the game to defend instead of him because he’d just get completely destroyed. Malcolm Lee is only an inch taller and also a freshman – Jrue isn’t even the best UCLA defender at SG. “Draft experts” have his defensive skills completely wrong.
Jrue’s jump shot and driving ability is likely to improve, but he’s not going to give his all for the team, if UCLA is any indication. He’s athletic and certainly is young, but we can say that about a lot of players. I just don’t think he has it to become a good starter in the NBA, which is what we’re after with as high a pick as #7.
Jrue made a comment that: ""In college, it’s all about defense," he said. The NBA “seems like it’s more fun. You can be you.” I suppose he fits the Warriors this way, and he will contribute on offense, but don’t look for him to help us get into the playoffs.
Bay Area Bruin.
by Yoyo on May 20, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see the premise of your argument about potential, and don’t have an issue with it, but I think you’re a little off when you say potential gets misjudged often in the NBA. I don’t necessarily think it’s the potential getting misjudged as much as NBA people getting too caught up in the potential and not looking hard enough at a players drive and work ethic that determine how much of that potential a player is actually going to realize.
That doesn’t take away from your main point, though, that a guy like Patrick O’Bryant gets drafted way too high completely on potential – he had that potential, it’s just he was so far from it and hasn’t worked nearly hard enough to achieve it.
by Missing Barry on May 21, 2009 7:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tyreke Evans and his 6’6" frame, and SUPER long arms will be the next Gilbert Arenas. Can you imagine Monte and Evans, switching back and fourth between the point, scoring 100 points a game by themselves? Only trouble with that is that they will give up 120 points to bench players.
Brandon Jennings is too small.
Now that the Clippers pretty much have Blake Griffin, are they really going to need Al Thornton, Camby, Kaman and Zach Randolph? Throw any of those guys in with Boom dizzle to sweeten the deal for getting Maggette back. It will take care of some of their salary issues too. Maybe Kaman and Davis for Maggette and Crawford…. lol. Yeah right… only in a dream world. - OH, and then go get Chris Bosh.
The one guy I really like, other than Evans, is BJ Mullens. 7 footer, 275 lbs, with tons of athleticism?…. sounds like a top 5 pick, but I never hear anything about him… and they got him going late in the 1st round. Trade down and get him maybe?
by aBulldog on May 20, 2009 9:28 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
bj mullens
= patrick o’bryant jr.
by gogoldenbears on May 21, 2009 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Comparing a 6’6 guy to Gilbert is kind of…weird. Gilbert is the player he is because he’s a ‘tweener – he plays like a 2 but has taken on some extra ballhandling and passing responsibilities because he’s too small for a 2 and needs to play the 1 sometimes. What makes you think a backcourt of Ellis and a long 6’6 dude would be bad defensively? That should help them match-up better with most teams.
“Can you imagine Monte and Evans, switching back and fourth between the point, scoring 100 points a game by themselves?”
If that’s the case, who’s going to get anyone else involved in the offense? That’s a point guards job, and why Monta isn’t a good fit at PG (at least not at this point in his career). I dunno much about Evans and whether he’s capable of it or not.
As for Jennings, small is good in the NBA these days. Paul, Parker, Rondo, Jameer Nelson, Mo Williams, TJ Ford is alright…With the lack of contact allowed on defense these days, smaller, quicker PG’s are benefitting. If you don’t like his size next to Monta…well, I can’t really argue with that thought.
by Missing Barry on May 20, 2009 9:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Good points.
From what I’ve read and seen, Evans has really long arms, like Arenas, who is 6’4". Evans is probably a tweener as well. He was recruited to play SG, but was given the point duties instead. He was a complete ball hog. I was being a little sarcastic and probably didn’t make sense when I said that Evans and Monte would score 100 points. It was a little facetious. You asked, “who would distribute the ball?” And you’re right, neither guy would probably distribute it at all, which is why I was saying 100 points a game… lol. I think the fact that he’s a ball hog, is going to make teams pass on him until the later part of the 1st round. I’m having a hard time envisioning Monte and Evans having the ability to play defense though… especially with Nellie ball.
Again, maybe a big guy like BJ Mulliens would be a better pick? Especially with all the big’s in the West, and the inability of the W’s to compete with those guys… I don’t know. I like the upside with Evans, which is why I like him.
by aBulldog on May 20, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
is maynor that much of a stretch at 7?
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by VonteegoCummings on May 20, 2009 2:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
tl;dr
Jennings or trade down
I will always be your fan JRich. Good Luck
by chili01 on May 20, 2009 9:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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