Lottery mock draft
by NH101 on May 20, 2009 3:42 PM PDT
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The lottery spots have been decided and the draft is about a month away so I decided to make a mock draft of the fourteen teams who were in the lottery.
1. L.A. :Blake Griffin- The most obvious choice in this years draft. There coach on a interview on the phone said they are definately taking him in this years draft. Maybe this will make Baron happy.
2. Memphis :Ricky Rubio- They have shopped around Mike Conley pretty freely so it would only be logical to pick the best point guard available. And imagine the big three of Mayo, Rubio and Gay. That would instantly make them one of the best offensive teams in the league.
3. Oklahoma City :Hasheem Thabeet- They really need size down low and Thabeet instantly gives them a defensive pressence and they have enough offensive firepower to make up for possible short comings.
4. Sacremento :James Harden- They got royally screwed in this years lottery so I think they will probably go with the safest choice here in Harden. some people have him sliding down because of his performance in the tournament but he is a great player no doubt. And he can play point guard shooting guard and small forward for them.
5. Washington :Jordan Hill- Washington has some good young big men but no one with his type of potential. He can be a corner stone for this team and with Jamison and Arenas having some injury problems he can add more stability to the offense.
6. Minnesota :Brandan Jennings- They have very little to none point guard deph and they want Foye to play the two so they take the best point guard available to play alongside Randy Foye and Mike Miller.
7. Golden State :Jrue Holiday- There are many possibilities at this pick including Lawson and Evans but The way Holiday plays defense puts him above the rest. He can wait for his moment or come in and help right away. Him and Monta would work well together. Even if we wanted Monta to still be the point guard of the future Holiday can play the two. It is just an all round solid pick.
8. New York :Stephen Curry- He brings the excitment and scoring ability there coach loves. He just seems destin there and would finally give them hopefully a player to call a franchise player.
9. Toronto :Demar Derozan :They need a swingman to run the court and make those tougher shots. They lack the good swingman and Marion may leave and if he stays he is not a great starter anymore and he could bring back the fun they had with Carter.
10.Milwaukee :DeJuan Blair- He gives them instant toughness down low and gives them a great rebounder and hard worker. Evans could also be the pick but they need to get tougher inside.
11.New Jersey :Tyreke Evans- With Carter loosing a step and a big man put in place they need a swingman who give Harris a option on offense other then Carter and Lopez as the main guys. He also can play some point behind Harris aswell.
12.Charlotte :Gerald Henderson-They need a permanent solution at the two guard and he instantly gives them a improved offense with his versatility and shooting ability.
13.Indiana :Johnny Flynn-They need a big man who is defensively dominant.But there is no one here like that and T.J. Ford is not there answer at point. Flynn gives them a possible answer and he is an upgrade from Ford instantly.
14.Phoenix :Ty Lawson- Nash is getting older and is no longer the same player who won the MVP title. And he is not gaurnteed to stay there either so now they get some one waiting in the wings like how Stuckey waited behind Billups. He was chosen over Maynor because his speed and skill set work better in a fast paced system.
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LOLOL
There are many possibilities at this pick including Lawson and Evans but The way Holiday plays defense puts him above the rest.
LMAO good joke. Get back to me when he becomes an average defender in the UCLA backcourt.
Bay Area Bruin.
by Yoyo on May 20, 2009 3:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
if you look at the scouting reports and what teams have said thats what they seem to love about him
ME8 for MVP
by NH101 on May 20, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I watched him play for a year
I still have recurring nightmares about Jrue Holiday defending other Pac-10 guards.
Bay Area fan going to UCLA.
by Yoyo on May 20, 2009 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he was out of postiotion like when ellis is forced to guard players like kobe at the 2
ME8 for MVP
by NH101 on May 20, 2009 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
Yet other PG’s playing out of position at UCLA around the same size, like Russell Westbrook (also 6’3"), who happens to be last year’ss #4 pick, and currently Malcolm Lee (6’4") are superb perimeter defenders.
I am a UCLA fan. No UCLA fan thinks Jrue Holiday is a #7 pick – just ask other Bruins where you think he should be drafted.
Bay Area fan going to UCLA.
by Yoyo on May 20, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
its not where your drafted its how you perform.i dont care if ucla fans think he sucks
if he can play he can play
ME8 for MVP
by NH101 on May 20, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fine, your call
I don’t want to see Jrue Holiday as the Warriors PG because I happen to have watched a full year of him playing and do not think he is our best choice, by any means, because he is at best the 4th best defender in the backcourt, and lacks drive. I do not doubt his offensive capabilities in an open system. I do not claim expertise on other players, only UCLA players. You have offered no evidence against my claims; you’ve just repeated your talking points about “if he can play he can play.”
If you still believe he can play, I can’t stop you from believing it. I’ve made my point.
Bay Area fan going to UCLA.
by Yoyo on May 20, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
who do you think we should draft?
and holiday isa good defender when you look at reports, unselfish versatile has good size has a good iq an he doesnt have to start right away he can backup monta.
ME8 for MVP
by NH101 on May 20, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
holliday would be a project. Could probably contribute as defense sub/backup pg initially… buti n a year or 2 start. Thats not the sexiest thing out of your #7 pick, but the question is will he be better than other options in 3 years. If you think so, u got to take him
by tafkasam on May 21, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
jrue is a point not an off guard
im surprised you guys let malcolm lee run the point when collison was out of the game. holiday should probably have been doing that. from what i’ve read and seen from holiday (pre and post UCLA) he seems to be much more comfortable at the point and is showing it now in workouts. i want to read how he fares one-on-one against the other elite point guard prospects like jennings, maynor, lawson and flynn. i’m pretty sure holiday was defending maynor most of the VCU game (after collison got in foul trouble) and did a solid job on him. he also was forced to run the point most of the game (because VCU was trying to deny collison) and had arguably his best game of the season in that position.
offensively, i’m pretty sure that he got the fewest touches/opportunities of any potential lottery pick in this draft. that said he needs to improve his jumpshot and finishing at the rim. however, i think his offensive numbers would have been higher on any other college team.
by gogoldenbears on May 20, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I also don't agree w/ you man
Like it or not, Howland runs a slow-down, half-court offense and playing Jrue off the ball in an offense like that is not going to be good for his own development. I, for one, respect that he played off the ball, guarded bigger guys (quite well actually, I don’t know which UCLA team you were watching last year), and always played hard. While I don’t think the Westbrook comparison is quite a salient one b/c RW is more explosive, the fact remains that J-Holliday is big enough to play with Monta in the same backcourt, which Brandon Jennings (who I like) is unequivocally not able to do. This is not a great draft, but I’ll take a point guard, who, if he would have stayed in school, would have likely picked up the stats that would have turned him into a “can’t miss” prospect. Look at our “PG” other options, Tyreke “Jerry Stackhouse Jr.” Evans (who I think could be good, but another gunner is not what we need, not an NBA PG), Brandon Jennings (who I already discussed), or Ty “Poor Man’s Ray Felton” Lawson. No thanks.
I am actually a little worried that Holliday will be gone at 7 (Sacto i read really likes him). Remember, lots of draft-niks scratched their heads when OKC took RW number 4, now he’s one of the top guys in the draft.
I would be more than happy with Jrue Holliday.
by BeLEGENDelliAllDay on May 21, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're right about westbrook
as a freshman at ucla he played 9 mpg and averaged 3.4 points 0.7 apg, 0.7 TO’s
holiday adjusted better to ucla than westbrook. If he stayed this year, he could be a top 5 pick.
by tafkasam on May 21, 2009 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
SI’s Ian Thomsen has us taking Stephen Curry
Thing A
by sam23 on May 20, 2009 3:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
a backup point guard with a killer 3 point shot? i guess i couldn’t be too upset, even if i could get excited about it either.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
by cap'n hack on May 20, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
couldn’t get excited about it*. oops.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
by cap'n hack on May 20, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea, he wouldn’t be more first choice, but I think I’d be less upset with that pick than most Warrior fans.
Thing A
by sam23 on May 20, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully, Ian thomsen is wrong
by Sharunas Marchulenis on May 20, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree’d. Curry has some things to like, but at best he becomes an average starting PG after a few years. He just doesn’t have the athleticism to create shots for himself and his teammates, or play good to great D. At the #7 pick, we need more than that. If we had a pick around #20 or so, I’d be fine with it.
by Missing Barry on May 21, 2009 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t be too upset if the Warriors took Curry
Don Nelson: "Hey Johnny shot 3s"
Player: "But coach i'm 7 foot 8"
Don Nelson: "Johnny!!,if you know whats good for you shoot 3s"
by LighTz707OuT on May 22, 2009 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
as much as i dont want curry to be selected by the warriors...
as i rather have jennings or derozen at the #7 pick, it would be fun to watch curry, morrow, azubuike, jackson all playing at the same time bombing from downtown and watching randolph or biedrins trying to clean up the glass… hahaha. sounds like nellie ball to the max.
by diablo21911 on May 25, 2009 3:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Sac at 4 and Wash at 5 are definite trade possibilities, not just for the Warriors but for any team looking to get a high pick with the right assets.
The only thing that worries me about the Warriors trading up is that we don’t have the option to include a future 1st round pick any time soon due to the Marcus Williams trade.
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
"It takes a special kind of anti-mojo for a team to miss the playoffs 14 out of 15 seasons. Like, say, the Warriors under Chris Cohan."
by kenntoe on May 20, 2009 4:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I really have not seen Holiday play enough...
to be able to evaluate him. Sometimes, he looks like he would be a very good NBA point guard, and other times, he almost looks like he lacks the confidence or “edge” so to speak to be a floor general. I don’t know…?
by Sharunas Marchulenis on May 20, 2009 4:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Holiday really didn’t seem to fit well with what UCLA did (not that I watched them often) – it seems like his workouts are going to be a bigger factor in determining where he’s drafted than most other prospects.
by Missing Barry on May 21, 2009 7:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no votes for lawson?kinda suprising
ME8 for MVP
by NH101 on May 20, 2009 4:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
cause we have the 7th pick
not the 12th
by 123707THIZZ on May 20, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Evans than Holliday
Brandon Jennings, Ty Lawson, or John Wall. A Warrior in 09.
With the 6th Pick in the 2009 MLB Draft, the SF Giants pick Donovan Tate.
Andre Smith in Silver & Black in 2009.
by ejdacanay on May 20, 2009 4:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i like the idea of holiday
but i just dont see this draft being that great for anyone except the team who gets griffin (clippers) or the team with rubio
by gsw.raiders on May 21, 2009 5:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I still think that whoever drafts Harden will be getting a solid player.
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
"It takes a special kind of anti-mojo for a team to miss the playoffs 14 out of 15 seasons. Like, say, the Warriors under Chris Cohan."
by kenntoe on May 21, 2009 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think there are a couple of others that will turn out pretty good – it’s just going to be hard for teams to figure out which ones those are out of the potential group of like 10-12 players that might be that player.
by Missing Barry on May 21, 2009 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ya im sure there will be steals like i think collison will be a steal
but players like jennings, thabeet, hill curry an derozan wont be worth a top 10 pick when we look back 3 years from now
by gsw.raiders on May 21, 2009 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if we are gonna get jennings
why not go for some experience and trade the pick for Bayless. He’s badass with experience. otherwise got with evans for the the “fit” factor since he’s 6’6’’; complementary to ellis.
by killacross on May 21, 2009 11:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Bayless’s experience was experience shooting very poorly and not showing much in the way of distribution skills.
I am intrigued with Evans myself, though I worry about any decision based on being a ‘fit’ as it likely means limiting the available options, something that almost never brings back a useful player. If Evans can be construed to be the best available, take him. If it because he might ‘fit’, but it not the best potential player in some absolute measure, pass.
by jae on May 22, 2009 1:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is no value at #7 pick this year
Ive been saying this repeatedly, we need a pure PG, and the best PG available other than Rubio, is Eric Maynor. He is the most NBA ready PG in the draft. We can easily trade down to get him. In this year’s draft, other than the top 5 picks (Griffin, Rubio, Thabeet, Harden, Hill) I really think everyone else is a mediocre. Since we’re stuck at 7, I think its safe to trade down for Maynor.
by honkiehonk on May 22, 2009 7:07 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
maynor wont be there past 15 so we couldnt trade down to far
by gsw.raiders on May 22, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who would want to trade up such that we could even trade down?
by jae on May 23, 2009 1:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Evans
I actually like him at #7 because he “fits” at multiple positions (1-2-3). He is also a very good perimeter defender. All this talk of BPA, BPA, BPA makes it seem like it’s possible to come to some kind of consensus on the issue. Griffin and Rubio are clearly BPA’s at their respective slots, but beyond that it gets kind of murky. By the time you get to 7 it’s like shooting craps blindfolded. I think you can easily make the case that even if Holliday or Lawson is available at 7, Evans might be the BPA.
As for the whole “we need a pure PG” argument, I say this: look at the 4 teams in the Conference Finals right now. How many have “pure” PG’s in their starting lineups? 1, Denver. The other three have an all-world caliber player, which of course is what ultimately decides whether a team will be really, really good or not. A Kobe, Howard, or Lebron makes the other positions far more fungible. If Monta and Randolph can reach the All-Star level, it won’t matter if we have a “pure” PG.
Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!
by Supafishal on May 22, 2009 9:28 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
agree to an extent but disagree
denver – chauncey as you named
LA – fish is a pure point, though he might not be great
orlando – have rafer & jameer nelson, plus hedo is a playmaker
cleveland – mo williams is a pure point and their second best player
yeah we discussed in another thread that the key to success is a megasuperstar. the reality is that we dont have one. as much as we all love monta and randolph, they aren’t and will never be the caliber of kobe, lebron, howard or even carmelo. we also don’t have guard that can both handle the ball and be a playmaker on offense the way kobe, lebron, and hedo can. crawford is big and can handle but isn’t a playmaker for teammates. jax can be a playmaker at times but has average handles and way too many turnovers, which makes hedo a better point forward than him. monta is ok, but better at creating for himself. i thought he was ok on the pick and roll, but according to larry riley on the conference call yesterday, he is below average.
also a myth on tyreke evans is that he is a good defender. he isn’t. he has the physical tools (height, long arms, quickness, strength) and ability to be a great defender, but he hasn’t really shown that he can do it.
by gogoldenbears on May 22, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Supafishal is defining a “pure” PG as one who thinks pass first and whose primary role is to distribute, and I think this is probably the most common definition. Mo Williams is a score-first PG, as is Rafer, and I think Jameer to a lesser degree. Whether Fisher is or not I don’t think matters, as his role in the triangle is more as a shooter. He’s averaging 2.4 assists/game in the playoffs.
But I agree that even if Monta and Randolph hit their absolute ceilings and become bonafide superstars, it’s doubtful that they’ll ever make us championship contenders. A third superstar would be required.
by ffgolden on May 22, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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