Polling GSoM: Can the Warriors Do It Without Us?
"WE CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT YOU!"
That's all I heard at the end of last season - in the Roaracle, on TV, in the newspapers, all over the net...the organization kept saying....
"WE CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT YOU!"
As I mentioned the other day, Paul Wong's calling the Dubs out on it.

Atma Brother 1, Hash, DJ Fuzzy Logic, and Paul Wong been believing since day 1!
Now, thanks to WarriorsWorld.net, we get to see Paul Wong's official words.
Paul "We Believe" Wong's Letter to Robert Rowell. [Warriors World.net]
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Mr. Wong's opening describes it all.
I have contemplated back and forth whether it's worth my time to write in about the disappointment that I have with the warrior's organization upper management, in specific you. No, this is not another angry season ticket holder blaming you for everything and anything that has happened to this team this season. Yet it's about a die hard fan that has giving his heart & soul to help this organization from a decade of miseries to becoming the darling of not just the bay area but the NBA as well.
This man DID give his heart and soul to this lousy franchise. Not only did he start "We Believe" and get the whole Bay to join in, he caused the whole NATION to follow it!
Remember in the 07-08 playoffs when the #8 Atlanta Hawks took the #1 Boston Celtics to an unexpected Game 7? Guess what they tossed up in their locker room before the game?
THAT'S RIGHT - A "WE BELIEVE" SHIRT!
This was more than just the Warriors...it was something much much more for the whole NBA.
Prior to the beginning of 2007-2008 seasons, it was my understanding through our legal counsels that the Warriors would no longer be using "We Believe" in any of their promotions for the upcoming season. To my surprise, they were. I was angry, yet I was rather flattered that the organization's marketing team could not come up with something original themselves.
Why don't we take a look at that opening video of the 2007-2008 season.
"Where the best fans in the NBA happen." - Should have been a shot of Paul Wong.
This part of the letter is very telling of the Warriors organization as a whole.
The day before April 10, 2008 the biggest game of the year vs. Denver which we loss 114-105 I'd contacted Travis (not sure last name) of marketing to help me with the cost of printing and passing out of the original "we believe" placards but never received a phone call back. Since without my permission the organization could not use the "We Believe" mantra I decided to print out the placards myself with my own money once again to pass out at that game. When I'd arrived that night, I was devastated to find "We Believe" placards placed on every seat with TNT on the back of them. I was left simply speechless! YOU GUYS MESSED UP THE MOJO!! It was never about the compensations!!!!! It was about winning, and getting this team to the PLAYOFFS! It was about creating this special feeling of "We have each others back" within that complex which we all have created together. That was what made Warriors fans the best fans in the NBA which made it impossible to beat us at Oracle.
As devastated as I was, my son and I flew out to Phoenix 4/14/08 holding on to the slimmest hope of the chance of the playoff. I want to thank Raymond Ridder for the tickets yet I had to purchase upgraded seats so that fans back home and the team could see the "Warriors Mojo Fan" was there to support. If only Baron would have shown up too, another story there. I would never forget that game, Chris Mullin personally came up to my son and I to say thank you for everything that we were doing for the team while you continued on walking away. Sorry Mr. Rowell you're not at the status of Chris Mullin yet he approached us instead.
I remember that Nuggets game - I was there. There was that certain "We Believe" feeling still left in the building, but it was out of place to see the "TNT" logo right under those two symbolic words. Like Mr. Wong said, the organization was selling out. It wasn't about being the underdog, it wasn't about doing the impossible, it was about selling tickets. What was the point of having the TNT logo on there anyway? Throughout the Mavericks series, we were getting hated on by all the TNT announcers, ESPECIALLY Charles Barkley. As fans, we could gang up on the man and prove the guy wrong. Don't get me wrong, he's an NBA great and a pretty entertaining commentator, but it was awesome to see Tony's pic get posted on TNT before a game...

So why sell out to TNT? Did you really need to keep fattening your pockets Rowell?
Mr. Rowell,
Do you believe in "KARMA"?
Baron opts out?
Monta get's hurt?
Lose every buzzer beater game this season?
Season plague with injuries?
Hehehe...nice. Like Justin Timberlake said, "What goes around, Comes Around." Seems about right, doesn't it?
I also want to thank you for allowing me to pass the "We Believe" placards in your arena or we wouldn't have shared the majestic season that we all did. I hope this letter help in regards to the feeling and insight of a die hard fan. Just truly mean it when you say:
"WE CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT YOU"
Today is going to be our last game with you all; I would like thank all of your staff. They are simply the best, if it wasn't for the love that they have shown us all these years this letter would've been written a long time ago.
I wish you and the organization the very best in all your endeavors. Please pack the house with true fans not with body counts.
You will be missed Paul Wong. We at Golden State of Mind thank you for everything you did for the Warriors.
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Man he dropped alot of dough.
Warrior brass should’ve at least reimbursed him. But still, “We Believe” has been used for awhile even before the Warriors playoff run and Wong is acting like he patented the two words.
Brandon Jennings, Ty Lawson, or Tyreke Evans. A Warrior in 09.
With the 6th Pick in the 2009 MLB Draft, the SF Giants pick Donovan Tate.
Conductor of the We're Back Warrior Movement!
by ejdacanay on Jun 1, 2009 11:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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taht’s not the point. He popularized that phrase for the Warriors. He was the original user of it. Would the Warriors have come up with it themselves… maybe? but maybe not… fact is the warriors took his idea and then made it big and never thanked him.
Paul Wong definitely deserves some sort of thanks. He is the embodiment of a warrior fan who gave his heart to the team only to be downtrodden by the Front Office.
by saintdee on Jun 2, 2009 2:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would the Warriors have come up with it themselves… maybe?
The Warriors marketing team? No freekin way they come up with this.
There's a party in my mind.
And I wish that I was there.
by qin on Jun 2, 2009 7:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
These Days...
We Believe is everywhere! He shoulda gotten some front row seats for at least one game… or at least an Arena Dawg!
Beyond Golden State of Design... and than some!
http://www.tonypsd.blogspot.com/
by Tony.psd on Jun 2, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thank
GSOM for posting the link, Warriors World for posting the letter, Paul Wong for writing the letter and of course I thank him for kick-starting for us fans, as well as “Bobby” Rowell, the “we believe” moment.
Can’t say I’m surprised from any of it tho.
Chris Cohan- YOU'RE FIRED!
by bonbrillio on Jun 2, 2009 7:40 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
this is a true loss at many levels
I think the difference between a marketing department and a fan is the first is being paid to be creative and the latter is motivated by passion. When the Warrior organization loses someone like Mr. Wong they lose so much more than the revenue from the ticket(s) and food, merchandise, etc. They lose a portion of the heart and soul of the fan base, a loss that is growing rapidly due to not only horrible basketball decision making but now a defensive and stonewalling attitude by the FO and their flagship station, KNBR. Clearly they are circling the wagon and to me, that’s not the way to stem the tide of negativity, distrust, and anger which has replaced blind loyalty and love for the Dubs.
If the front office doesn’t wise up and change its ways, including getting a more competitive team together by the start of next season, the Dubs will be like A’s and be playing before very limited fan base, most of whom are going to be pissed even more than they are now. The writing is on wall and I think the window of opportunity to be responsive to what is so clearly evident and in front of their face, starting with the disasterous and defensive “meeting” with Rowell and Riley to how Mr. Wong has been treated. If they were smart, they’d be offering him an entire free season for their lack of sensitivity and appreciation.
We Believe We Were Deceived
by commish on Jun 2, 2009 9:40 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank you Paul Wong
I remember when we met Paul at a Dubs game in the spring of 2007 (I think it was the Sunday TWolves game if I remember correctly). He was incredibly friendly and had a cool vibe. We chatted for a few minutes and as we were saying bye he said “You guys are coming to the next game right? You gotta come!”
He genuinely wanted us to be in the Roaracle house rooting on the Dubs with him and we genuinely wanted to be there rooting alongside him. That’s 1 Dub 1 Luv. Much appreciated Paul.
I don’t think Paul Wong has “stopped believing” in the sense that he’s not a Warriors fan anymore or he doesn’t want to roll golden with fine folks such as Dubs Nation. He’s fed up with the unprofessionalism of the team’s brain(dead) trust (Cohan and Rowell) and is sick of shelling out his hard earned dough to support them, when they haven’t given him his just due. I agree with him 100% on that.
Just because folks don’t want to shell out thousands of dollars to support this horrible product, doesn’t make them any less of a fan. Make no mistake Paul Wong is still THE archetype Warriors fan- a very passionate and unforgettable member of the fam.
I BELIEVE in Paul Wong, this fanbase, Nellie, and that the hoops gods will save us from the Cohan/ Rowell incompetence.
by Atma Brother ONE on Jun 2, 2009 9:50 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
+1000037 to everything you said.
Except for this:
I BELIEVE in Paul Wong, this fanbase, Nellie, and that the hoops gods will save us from the Cohan/ Rowell incompetence.
I just don’t believe in Nellie anymore.
Long live P-Dubz the Legend.
Go Warriors still or something.
Romes Mac Mojous
by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Jun 2, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the hoops gods will save us from the Cohan/ Rowell incompetence.
Divine intervention seems like the only possible way out of this mess…
WARRIORS BASKETBALL!!! Patiently waiting for a title...I may be waiting for a long time...
by JustSomeName on Jun 2, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And if there's one thing I learned rooting for the Warriors...
It’s that the basketball gods do not smile kindly on our franchise.
by Missing Barry on Jun 2, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah
You can still believe in a petty, vengeful God who watches basketball and decides to injure players and make the team lose close games because their front office didn’t give sufficient credit to a fan with a placard….
I sympathize with Mr. Wong’s case — though he sometimes sounds like an 8-year-old who didn’t get enough jelly on his PB&J — but I’ll never get the invoking of “karma” to explain bad things happening to people you don’t like. (See Skeptic v. Sleepy, Rounds #1-50). Did those Air France passengers currently at the bottom the Atlantic Ocean also have a history of plagiarizing other people’s slogans?
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by Sleepy Freud on Jun 2, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea man the karma thing was a little overboard. Monta Ellis was injured because Rowell has bad karma? Sucks for Monta.
by Fantasy Junkie on Jun 2, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I wish CohanRowell’s bad karma would just take the team out of their greedy, bumbling little paws, give it to someone competent, and force them to support a crappy, loserly team for the rest of their lives. Too bad I don’t believe in karma… :-(
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by Sleepy Freud on Jun 2, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too bad I don’t believe in karma… :-(
But I think you do. You treat people well and you get treated well don’t you? Works for me.
Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Jun 2, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Treat people well?
Moi? ;-)
I forgot about our new, working definition of karma. I like it. What you call Karma, I call the Golden Rule, but whatever. You say soda, I (being from Boston) say tonic…
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by Sleepy Freud on Jun 3, 2009 7:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And if there's one thing I learned rooting for the Warriors... It’s that the basketball gods do not smile kindly on our franchise.
and the next step is to embrace that and use it to your advantage instead of stressing over the Paul Wong Wrongs.
Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Jun 2, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Until Cohan, Rowell, and Nelson leave, warriors will not get anywhere.
by GSW_fan on Jun 2, 2009 3:19 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Like I said before
We should start the “COHAN/ROWELL GET OUT NOW!” Movement.
by yobo on Jun 2, 2009 3:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ya.
If you call us the best fans in the NBA, care about the fans, and care about the Warriors,
then do us a favor and FIRE your own damn selves.
Continue to stick around, Monta Ellis and Anthony Randolph will soon be gone.
Romes Mac Mojous
by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Jun 2, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you'll need
a catchier phrase than COHAN/ROWELL GET OUT NOW!"
… instead of WE BELIEVE how about WE’LL HELP YOU LEAVE!
ya, lame. nevermind
by hardcore on Jun 3, 2009 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
TIME HAS COME.... "Rowell Out Now!" That is the new chant!
Just like Paul Wong….I have had absolutely ’zip" response from RR despite his promise to be in touch.
Not ONE response/answer or offer in counter to his “You got screwed” comment….
It’s time the ROARACLE let Mr Robert Rowell know that a storm is coming…and HIS name is ALL OVER IT…..
If Mr Cohan has a single clue about fan loyalty he will see the signs and make the action. The comments Paul made about Chris Mullin show what any of us who ever got to meet the guy felt, he was genuinely interested to talk to and meet the fans, was an extremely professional and polite guy and this all, with more TALENT in his little toe than Robert Rowell has…..
So….. its time ladies and gents…..
From this moment on…I want us ALL to agree that there will not be a single chant of “let’s go warriors” in that arena until the arena has belted out MANY “ROWELL OUT NOW” chants….. The problem about promoting the oracle as the loudest house in the NBA, is that the same LOUD HOUSE may turn and bite you in the ass, if you choose to flip off people like PW, myself or any of the other loyal season ticket holders that have clearly shown their disgust at HIS orgaizations treatment of the fans.
If need be… I will contact every press agency in the Bay Area to highlight any demonstrations that we might like to organise….
Robert Rowell HAD his opportunity LONG before now to offer the peace branch to all the fans he personally chose to procreate with without their knowledge…….
Now it is time for this truly unprofessional guy to be forced out of the Warriors office….
HOWEVER this all rests with US…the fans….
Ray Almeda and I started some huge “Refs you suck” chants this year…..you wait till the arena shakes to the sound “Rowell Out Now!”
Enough moaning about this people….its time for some action…..
It's about heart, It's about fight, It's about being a Warrior!
by BritWarriorGSW on Jun 2, 2009 4:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
Agreed. But can we somehow make into a 3 syllable chant, 4 syllables seems really tiring to yell over and over again…
WARRIORS BASKETBALL!!! Patiently waiting for a title...I may be waiting for a long time...
by JustSomeName on Jun 2, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"fire rowell" clap clap clapclapclap
has the same rythem as “let’s go warriors”. i’m surprised it hasn’t been thrown out
by AJC3317 on Jun 2, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully my Rowell Shirt will be out by than!
Beyond Golden State of Design... and than some!
http://www.tonypsd.blogspot.com/
by Tony.psd on Jun 2, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bla
I agree with everything he is saying and all, but I cant help but feel that he sounds like kind of a prick with the way he went about it. His ego seems a little inflated.
I agree that Mr. Rowell could have done more to show thanks to a very valuable, die-hard fan. But to hear Mr. Wong speak as though he is ENTITLED to all this special treatment…ehhh…
Dont get me wrong, I can understand where he is coming from, and I’m sure he’s a great guy. But it seems as though his 15 minutes of fame definetely went to his head.
by Shaka1 on Jun 2, 2009 5:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You’d let those 15 minutes of fame get to your head too if you weren’t even thanked for your efforts. And pretty disrespected if you were gonna be “STH of the game” and then taken away last minute without even an apology. He’s human and we would all have felt the same way if we were strong armed by an organization that you’ve supported for years.
WARRIORS BASKETBALL!!! Patiently waiting for a title...I may be waiting for a long time...
by JustSomeName on Jun 2, 2009 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
GUYS, LET'S NOT LOSE FOCUS HERE...
This is not about PW feeling entitled. This is about a basketball organization that has dissed its fans for many many years with a “F—k it, we don’t care if we win or lose” attitude. We finally got a few good seasons and now this prick Rowell comes along to thumb his nose at the most loyal and diehard fans in the entire league? WTF??? I’m so sick of this lame upper management we get stuck with year after year.
Let the “Rowell/Cohen Out Now Movement” begin.
As for chants, how about:
“ROBERT”
“Get out!”
“ROWELL”
“Get out!”
Simple call and response.
Or another:
“Rowell”
“F – U!”
“Cohen”
“F -U 2!”
by yobo on Jun 2, 2009 7:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i'll be cool with the first chants.
In my opinion, most Warrior fans are smarter not to use curse words as a collective chant. Ya you hear the collective Bull-*Ish chants. Those of which I don’t care to participate in. That’s why I started the REF U SUCK chants at the Roaracle instead of the BS chants cuz I would rather hear that than anything. (i know I wasnt the first one to start that chant, so whoever did big ups to you. I dont need the attention.)
If you are at a bar or something, or if you are in a premise where there aren’t kids around then cool. At the Roaracle, there are kids around and honestly I would hate to see cursed words provoked in a chant.
Ya I know 5 year olds or up nowadays cuss all the time, but when they around their elders I would expect them to show some Respect.
There are always more effective or more stronger words than using curse words.
Just my two cents on the topic because I hope having clean innovated effective chants at the Roaracle gets passed around nonstop.
RO-WELL! GET OUT!
CO-HAN! GET OUT!
By the way. I think last season I heard a Rowell sucks chant start or something. But it didnt go relentless.
I think I participated in it for 37 seconds then it died. So I yelled out “BRING MULLIN BACK!” when he wasnt even officially fired yet.
Then it got quiet real quick.
Its cool. Some people think Mullin was an idiot in the FO here. I beg to differ and I thank him highly for bringing us AR and AMO (who both could be gone) and everything else he has done. Highly critical Bad Decisions and Better decisions he has made for us. I would take him back in a hearbeat.
I’m done blabbering.
GO Warriors still or something like that.
Romes Mac Mojous
by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Jun 2, 2009 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Poor Mr. Paul Wong...
Hopefully, this organization will wake up someday and say their thank you’s to him.
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by girltothemax on Jun 2, 2009 11:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The probability that you just read my signature: 0
Whoa, You got a new photo, I liked you better with dark hair :>)
Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Jun 2, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha it’s a phase I’m going through right now…
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by girltothemax on Jun 3, 2009 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it’s a phase
Ok, You go Girl ! You can pull it off if anyone can..
Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Jun 4, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I used to think about getting mad $$$$$$$$$ off the Warriors too
I won’t lie, I was hoping for something to happen…with what I do… but that attitude won’t get me anywhere but that feeling of greed. For what it’s worth, I’m happy where I’m at and my contributions towards GSoM’s community is paying off with great publicity and support from it’s community and fans. Why wait for GSW’s front office to pay up when it’s opened so many more doors publicly for me to experience different flavors in design and entertainment outside of a Golden State mind frame. Feels good!
Beyond Golden State of Design... and than some!
http://www.tonypsd.blogspot.com/
by Tony.psd on Jun 2, 2009 11:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
whoaaa
didn’t even realize it, i grew up with atma brotha 1! thats nuts, whats good homie, its AJ from the Crossings!
by Essential on Jun 3, 2009 6:49 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty sure it’s Hash on the far left, AB1 on the far right (in the pic, if not politically…)
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by Sleepy Freud on Jun 3, 2009 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe the one on the far right is R Dizzle...
I don’t think AB1 is in the picture, the caption is misleading. Anyways, I might be wrong…
The probability that you just read my signature: 1
by girltothemax on Jun 3, 2009 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That handsome gentleman is myself although I must admit all 3 of us look especially (embarrassingly) goofy in this pic next to Paul Wong.
If voting for Green presidential candidates for the past 2 elections and donating to that party doesn’t make you far left, then I don’t know what that makes you. Maybe just crazy?
by Atma Brother ONE on Jun 3, 2009 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If voting for Green presidential candidates
Don’t those little guys come from Mars?
Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Jun 4, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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