Jonny Flynn
Holliday has "potential" and has little "experience". Jonny Flynn has proven himself that he can stand out in the best conference in America against all the big boys. Hes made big plays at big times and has that natural talent that you can't teach. Jennings has been in Europe and not doing that well. Holliday had a very mediocre year at UCLA. Flynn left only his sophomore year and still put up the numbers and is ready to help a team NOW! He reminds me (and himself) of Chris Paul at nearly the same height and ball handling. There is really nothing bad to say about this kid other than he may be a little small, but my point before of Chris Paul's size shows that height doesn't stop point guards from being outstanding players (look at Brooks this year in the playoffs).
Overall, Flynn not only brings excitement, but he brings a good image on AND off the court. He knows that right things to say, the right way to act, and how to represent a team. I hope the Warrior's snatch him up because this kid could be a stud in this league for a long time.
To remind everyone, Lebron James befriended Flynn after seeing him kill the competition at the King James Camp. Lebron thinks so highly of him that he told his agent to scoop him up (which he did). Weeks before Flynn signed with Leon Rose (Lebron's agent), Lebron had Flynn fly to Cleveland to sit and talk with him about basketball. Lebron sees this kid as a potential superstar.
I don't know about you, but I want to win NOW. Flynn will give us that ability, while Jennings has played overseas without standing out (against European talent) and Holliday has yet to prove himself other than a magnificent recruit out of high school.

This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!
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I hate that word...
“potential”
We USED to Believe...
WE DEMAND IMPROVEMENT!
by RunNdGun on Jun 11, 2009 4:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I would love to have this guy though
We USED to Believe...
WE DEMAND IMPROVEMENT!
by RunNdGun on Jun 11, 2009 4:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
love to have this guy too
i also thought he was gonna be like CP3
why not lets take a chance
by gswfan2 on Jun 11, 2009 4:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
eaiOrange I couldn't agree more,
I’ve seen Flynn play in person a few times, and I can tell you that he brings it every game and he has a confidence to him that can’t be taught. He is a natural point guard with freakish athletic talents, and is a better shooter than either jennings or holliday. The man is also very personable as people can see in his interviews. People can keep harping on his size (6 feet and change with shoes) and how he doesn’t fit with monta defensively, but people keep ignoring the fact that Flynn CAN play defense, and is very strong for his size. I actually do feel that the two could find a way to work together. And for all the naysayers that believe that small guards can’t play with one another and achieve success, look at Allen Iverson and Eric Snow, both small guards whose team made it to the NBA championship and found ways to defend and win…also, Steve Nash and Nick Van Exel found ways around their lack of size and made it to the western conference finals in 2003. Jonny Flynn should be the Warriors guy…here’s to hoping our front office does not screw up once again.
by str8ballinsf on Jun 11, 2009 4:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
yea dude his official nba measurements
is 5 11, but hes 196!
thats 20+ more than monta
BDs listed at 220
so i see flynn as a strong stocky athletic PG
by gswfan2 on Jun 11, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The comparison to Chris Paul are more than a tiny bit contrived. Paul was a deadly shooter, nailing more than 45% of his threes. Flynn struggled at ~31% this year. Paul had fewer turnovers, and more assists per minute.
They’re about the same height. At least that much is true.
by jae on Jun 11, 2009 4:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If your short you better be a lights out shooter.
And I’m getting sick of the little guy talk. Short players that succeed in the nba are annomalys, to assume someone is an anomaly is the equivelant of the logical lottery. You have a very small chance to be correct.
I like the kid but another draft he wouldn’t crack the first round.
by Balance on Jun 11, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think talking there’s a fair argument to be made that there’s an actual trend in the NBA now where short PG’s succeed. Between the lack of contact they allow on the perimeter these days, and the lack of big PG’s in the NBA that are real post threats, small PG’s are benefitting. Parker, Rondo, Paul, Aaron Brooks has looked good at times. Devin Harris isn’t small, but skinny and his game is based on quickness. TJ Ford has had some success. Jameer Nelson. Flynn is pretty small, smaller than most of them, but as long as he’s quick, it may not be that big of a problem.
by Missing Barry on Jun 11, 2009 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Being quick is a start. Being able to shoot would be a plus though. It might be something he can learn, but it’s not something he’s adept at yet. (Flavor of the moment. Why is Flynn getting attention when a similarly sized guard who is as fast, didn’t turn the ball over as much and showed a much better ability to get round ball in hoop seems to be slipping? Don’t get it at all.)
by jae on Jun 11, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Flynn’s looked better than Lawson in workouts and such.
by Missing Barry on Jun 12, 2009 7:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Game 4, last play of regulation- Fisher shot right over Jameer Nelson’s stubby arms. Replay showed Nelson’s “contest” barely reach Fisher’s chin, and Fisher isn’t exactly known for elevation. In addition to getting posted up, midgets get shot right over, can’t stop penetration, and are as good as dead on any switch. If you’re that small, you better be that much better on offense, not just competent.
by antihero on Jun 11, 2009 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That was more a problem of Nelson playing it wrong (and giving Fisher way too much space) than being short. Since both Nelson and Fisher are short, it’s not really any different than Kobe shooting over someone like Pietrus. Not sure why you don’t think small guys can’t stop penetration? Usually small means quicker, which is kind of a big thing for stopping penetration…
by Missing Barry on Jun 12, 2009 7:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re probably right on the play but I’d still rather have a Tyreke Evans type for closing out on shooters than a Jameer Nelson. For penetration, quickness is important, but strength is just as important when defending someone who isn’t built like Tony Parker. Small guys are worse at navigating screens, boxing out, trapping… and life isn’t easy for them on the other end either.
by antihero on Jun 12, 2009 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If your short you better be a lights out shooter.
That’s very true.
If a point guard is short he better be able to have some type of specialty when it comes to playmaking, shooting or scoring. You’re gonna need some type of CP3/AI type of magic to succeed. Or else you’ll end up like Earl Boykins. Even at Earl’s height, he was able to bench press 330 pounds which showed that he wasn’t the typical short guy. You gotta have something special in you to be consistent in the league.
by Precise Films Productions on Jun 11, 2009 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
not necessarily...
rondo and parker arent lights out shooters to any degree. Infact you could say flynn is a better 3 pt shooter than both are right now. Flynn has a good midrange game, which will get better after adapting to nba. He knows how to use his body. His 3 pt shooting is suspect, but its not necessary on this squad if he can get in lane and score.
by tafkasam on Jun 12, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you're bigger you don't need to be able to shoot???
that doesn’t make sense. so holiday and evans are great shooters already? or they don’t need to be to be successful because they have a 3-4 inches on flynn?
how about this? name a short guy who has gotten this far and been this well received (probable top 10 pick) who HASN’T succeeded. actually that’s probably not that hard. you’re probably right and i won’t make this argument.
what i think flynn has are intangibles—leadership, heart and desire. those qualities make great players and really separate the booms from the busts in the draft. how about this—name a guy with leadership, heart and desire who hasn’t AT LEAST had a solid NBA career. i feel much more comfortable with flynn’s FLOOR than with those of many other players in this draft. furthermore, its not like flynn has no ‘potential’ or athletic ability. he is the best combination of potential and likelyhood to live up to it/succeed/not bust of anyone outside of blake griffin…
by gogoldenbears on Jun 12, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bobby Hurley. Top 10 pick. Bust, even without his failure to buckle up issue. I HATE Dook so it’s tough for me to say it, but in his college career, I don’t think I’d seen anyone with more passion, intensity and desire than that $#4%. “Intangibles?” He had them in spades. Made the big shots. Won games with sheer willpower, and was a much better defender than most guys in the college ranks. He had passion, heart and desire as much as anyone.
by jae on Jun 12, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He knows Lebron?!
Maybe if we draft him, he could convince Lebron to come to the Dubs!
WARRIORS BASKETBALL!!! Patiently waiting for a title...I may be waiting for a long time...
by JustSomeName on Jun 11, 2009 4:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That would automatically make him the best player in the draft. Bringing Lebron to town >>>>>>> anything anyone else in this draft could possible accomplish.
*Note: Curry and Lebron are friends, too.
by Missing Barry on Jun 11, 2009 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i would like him more then jennings
my only concern is how well can he guard the two if he plays with monta?
by gsw.raiders on Jun 11, 2009 5:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
“I don’t know about you, but I want to win NOW.”
When you say this, what exactly are those goals you’re trying to accomplish? Making the playoffs? 2nd round?
by Missing Barry on Jun 11, 2009 5:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Screw johnny flynn
its all about ROB KURZ! put kurz at sg then move monta to 2. problem solved! kurz the savior..hahahahahhaha!
by Butt Secks on Jun 11, 2009 5:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
problem solved!
except SG and the 2 are the same position.
by the evil monkey on Jun 11, 2009 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah. i look forward to all the angry comments about why Kurz is playing instead of the ‘yet to be drafted’ PG.
by the evil monkey on Jun 11, 2009 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I didn't know it was that simple.
So all we have to do is pick the player who did best in college? Woah, that’s easy. Like “#3 overall pick in 2002” type of easy. Or something like “trade our ’98 draft pick for the better college player” type of easy.
by Precise Films Productions on Jun 11, 2009 7:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Here's Johnny...
Come on Nelly and Riley get Flynn, this guy will solve the PG problem for the next 10 yrs
by Brothaplease09 on Jun 11, 2009 7:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
There was an article I read recently detailing the historical success of players based on their age when they entered the NBA. High schoolers and college sophmores did the best, followed by college freshmen, college juniors and finally college seniors. Just throwing that fact out there…
by Missing Barry on Jun 11, 2009 8:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
high schools #1?
i say let us take H.S again, but move the college rule to 2 years instead of 1, PTI was talking about it today. I like that idea, i think it would make a lot more kids want to come out of h.s because they dont wanna go to college for 2 years which is bad, but i really want h.s players to be allowed in the draft again.
by bizz 192 on Jun 11, 2009 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Imagine if Monta Ellis went to college.
I think he would be a college senior coming into this year’s draft.
What pick do you guys think he’d be taken at? Would we still be able to get him at #7?
by Precise Films Productions on Jun 11, 2009 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just hate the rule entirely. Get rid of it. Let a player do what they think is in their best interest. The NBA should set up a committee like the NFL has, though, to help advise these kids to what their draft stock is to help them make a good decision.
by Missing Barry on Jun 12, 2009 7:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
correlation, not causation.
Players who enter after their senior year just weren’t as talented to begin with. If Dwight or LeBron played 4 years at UNC, they’d still destroy a prep-to-pro Tyler Hansbrough.
by antihero on Jun 11, 2009 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yessss
jonny flynn to the warriors!
Gerald Madkins
by gorillas on Jun 11, 2009 10:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No please. NO!
I have a lot of reasons why I don’t like Flynn as the number 7 pick, but it’s almost 1am and I’m too lazy to write a long list of reasons. I think Flynn will be a fine back-up pg some day, but I’d rather go for the high reward/high bust player. Holiday, Evans or DeRozan would all make me much happier than Flynn.
by jnormous on Jun 12, 2009 12:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
FLYNN > JENNINGS
Flynn is better. Jennings and Flynn’s shooting skills are about the same, not great. But ball handling, floor control, and dishing passes out – Flynn is the man. He took control of his Syracuse team whenever he needed to and re-watching clips of Baron Davis, Flynn can be that type of player. We don’t need another hi riser or super athletic guy. Just a guy that’s fast enough to get by other PGs in the league, awesome dribble skills, and a guy who can set up guys like Wright, Biedrins, Turiaf, Morrow, Belinelli, etc.
The Time Is Now! Win Warriors Win!
by ballin on Jun 12, 2009 7:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
“But ball handling, floor control, and dishing passes out”
All strengths of Jennings, as well…
by Missing Barry on Jun 12, 2009 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Flynn
It’s hard to argue with those who use stats. I respect that. Those with a good command of stats are usually right. But, as a fan, I’d like to think I can recognize a good player by just watching him play. I’ve only seen highlights of Jennings. But they don’t impress me. I’ve seen a bit more of Flynn and I love his game.
I’m in the “take the BPA” camp. Flynn is a floor leader. We need a leader. I’d take him over Jennings and, at least initially, see if he can back up Monta at PG.
Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right.
by fotd on Jun 12, 2009 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Those with a good command of stats are usually right.”
Eh, all they’re trying to do is play historical probabilities. Doesn’t even mean they’re using the right probabilities, though. Jennings is a big unknown for us, I’m the only one that’s seen him play (once in high school), and his experience in Europe doesn’t give us a whole lot to go by. His workouts are going to be hugely important, unfortunately we don’t get to watch them, so who knows what kind of player he is these days. Dunno how much of an impact a 5’11 rookie is going to make in terms of a “leader”, but if he can come in and create some good shorts for teammates that’s definitely something we can use. As for a short guy playing next to Ellis, I personally could care less. We aren’t winning a championship next year, so let’s acquire as many good pieces as we can and then figure out our best move. Maybe we find out there really aren’t that many teams that can take advantage of it. People like to say stuff like “who’s going to guard Kobe”, but the Lakers are only what, 4 games a year? Not everyone has Kobe.
by Missing Barry on Jun 12, 2009 9:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
put Jack on Kobe - Kelenna to back him up
Aquiring Flynn this year would NOT be primarily with the idea of pairing him with Ellis. I strongly think the Ws need to push the Ellis PG project as aggressively as possible. But I would like Monta to feel the heat of someone pushing him for minutes. And I’d be open to moving Ellis after next year if Flynn looked like a better fit…
Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right.
by fotd on Jun 12, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
i was watching flyyns interview
after he worked out with jennings and he said that Jennings is a true pass first pg. Maybe i am the only person on this website that didn’t previously know this but in my mind that now puts Jennings ahead of Flynn
by bizz 192 on Jun 12, 2009 11:12 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's the PC answer
If he said “Jennings was a ball hog who stunk up the joint, you should draft me”, it’d look like sour grapes.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Jun 12, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do
like Flynn but I dont think we should draft him. If we do draft him we should probably trade Monta Because we would be undersized
REPRESENTING THE BAY TO THE FULLEST!!!
by California KID on Jun 13, 2009 9:06 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
taking the bpa is the strategy on a team as bad as the warriors. issues of “fit” can be worked out later. besides, flynn and monta wouldn’t likely play very much together until next year unless flynn steps up and shows he deserves starters minutes in the nba as a point. for next year, any point guard we draft will be monta’s backup while monta tries to learn the position.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
by cap'n hack on Jun 13, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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