I love that hypothetical lineup.

Amare, great. AR up and comer. Baron out half the year and then will at some point have a birthday hangover. Richardson is not the Richardson we remember and Jax at the 3 does not thrill me in the lest (unless it’s on a switch).

Oh and the Vote is to close to call on who gets the better deal, but I would lean to the Sunny side of that deal.

I don’t get the Jefferson love. He brings one skill to the table – scoring – and he doesn’t even do it efficiently. I can see the Suns trying to move Stoudemire for someone younger and with a longer, cheaper contract, but I just don’t see why people would think Jefferson is a desirable piece in a trade for a superstar.

JRich lost his touch already. i mean a couple of air balls with the warriors and the injuries. Davis is just a guy who takes impossible fade aways that barely touch the rim. I still like monta here and marco isn’t that bad of a player. he got the shooting type. Andris Biedrins is a key to the warriors. brandan is a good young player. the trades are pretty much worthless to me.

Don’t get me wrong, he’s a good player, super-athletic, but has anyone else watched him play? He relies on that athleticism way too much and bullies his way to the basket. I don’t think he’ll continue being a dominant player as he gets older.

He also thinks he’s a franchise player, but where would he be without Nash? He struggled mightily when the Suns slowed down the tempo last year as well.

Give me Al Jeff any day, the man’s got some nasty low post moves. Pair Al Jeff’s post moves with Dwight Howard, and you got Shaq, maybe even better, which is scary to think.

…Monta Ellis for Jason Richardson, now? All the jawing about the Richardson trade to Charlotte aside, I can’t think of a single facet of the game in which that makes us better or more productive, besides the fact that Richardson’s bad defense looks more like “hustle” than Ellis’ does. I don’t see the gains in trading for Davis, either. You’ve essentially reshuffled the whole roster in order to regain two former Warrior guards who are both coming off thoroughly mediocre seasons at an age when both should be cresting. The Suns banked on Richardson making them better, and he didn’t. The Clippers thought they had an ace point guard, and they don’t.

It’s worth noting that this is hard for me to say, because I like Baron Davis considerably. I think my feelings about him as a player are probably similar to the ones that everybody and their grandmother knows Atma has about Richardson, as it’s always been pretty clear that he was one of his favorites from a very dark period in the Warriors history. But I’m willing to acknowledge that Baron is quite likely toast, and at his current price is little more than a salary albatross, one that is thankfully not ours, since we have enough of our own.

Amare Stoudemire is good, certainly better than anything we have. I would disagree that every team in the league should be trying to get him, though; Minnesota, for example, shouldn’t trade Al Jefferson for Amare.

You’re also trading away Biedrins to get Stoudemire, which looks better in my head than it does when you check the numbers. Biedrins has been mocked for his defense here, so I would assume then that so will Stoudemire if we get him, seeing as he’s no stopper himself. Andris is also the better shotblocker by a little (only by 0.4 per 36 minutes, but that bears mentioning since the perception seems to be that Amare is more rugged and effective than AB), and while STAT obviously has more scoring skill, he’s by far the inferior rebounder. Stoudemire couldn’t outrebound Biedrins on the reboundin’est day of his life if he had an electrified rebounding machine.

Then consider that while Stoudemire posted a per of 22+, AB was also over 20 last year. Consider that Biedrins’ long term contract is wholly reasonable for his position, age and skills, while STAT can bolt after next year. Biedrins is also younger, and has never had microfracture surgery, nor has his retina recently come detached.

…call Stoudemire a dominant force all you want, but his “dominance” is pure offense, at least insofar as a comparison versus Biedrins is concerned. He doesn’t block shots better than Biedrins, and he sure as hell doesn’t rebound better. Whether he’s a better defender is, I suppose, a debate, but I’ve seen enough of his D to suggest it might not be to your liking. Especially, of course, if he’s playing for a Don Nelson team.

I’m curious to know what you consider the threshold between a star player and a “nice complimentary piece” is. Certainly teams are likely more afraid of Stoudemire’s offense than Biedrins’, but it can’t be overstated that Biedrins is one of the very best rebounders in the NBA, playing a position in which rebounding is one of the most imperative parts of the job description. Is it any less dominant for the Warriors to get 30 points from Monta Ellis and 14 rebounds from Biedrins than it would be for Amare Stoudemire to notch 25 and 10?

In the context of the full proposed trade I think this looks even worse, because you’ve also acquired Davis and Richardson, neither of whom showed any indication last year they were ready or able to shoulder the load, and both of whom missed the playoffs. Unless you’re banking on that lineup being a playoff team (and a high seed at that), I see almost no chance that STAT stays by the bay, in which case it makes almost uniformly less sense to trade Ellis and Biedrins for him, unless you view this as a salary dump strategy which it doesn’t seem like you do. You’re basically relying on Baron and J-Rich to be a playoff backcourt- an idea that a fan familiar with the current versions of those players would likely scoff at- and the price of failure is losing Monta and Biedrins for essentially one year of Amare Stoudemire.