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So, these past couple months since the regular season ended, there have been alot of speculation on who the Warriors will draft. My question is who would YOU draft and why?

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Now, I'm talking about realistic possibilties here. So we're going to assume that Blake Griffin, Ricky Rubio, and Hasheem Thabeet are all gone by the time we pick at #7. Let's just throw out all this drama with prospects not giving us a workout, the rumors that Monta Ellis doesn't want us to draft a PG, etc, etc. If you were GM, who would you pick at the #7 considering BPA and team needs.

For me, I think that we are basically setup with SG/SF swingmen and down low at C with Biedrins and Turiaf backing him up. We could use a PF, but unless we got Hasheen Thabeet, I wouldn't grab anyone else since they wouldn't be able to make any great immediate impact on this team. That only leaves the PG, this draft is flooded with PGs and some will turn great while others will become busts. I believe that Monta can be able to become a PG, but there is also a chance that he will not be able to come through with the abilities, and to be a great floor general in this league, you need to average AT LEAST 5 assists per game and I don't think Monta is ready to do that yet. With that said, I would pick Brandon Jennings. After seeing the recent interviews of him, it really seems like playing in Italy really humbled him as a player and he's learned alot both on and off the court over there. His basketball IQ probably increased by playing with professionals, he knows that he couldn't possibly do everything on the court and that by being good at one or two things is better than being average at everything, he knows that he cannot expect to be a starter right away. I think his mentality has really grown from high school and understands that it is a business and is really thinking like a professional athlete instead of some punk kid coming fresh out of high school/college. Although he is still a mere 19 years old, I think he has the potential and drive to become a star in this league. Having said that, he also seems like he has a very high bust potential.

After drafting him, I don't think he'll make a great impact for our team in his first year. I think he'll get limited minutes here and there like with Anthony Randolph this past season. I think he would serve as a good backup to Monta at the point (for now). And after the first year or two, if he really does blow up, we can put Monta at the 2 and start him, but if not, we can always get rid of him or keep him as a backup. I think towards the end of this past season when we were really into the "tank mode", our reserves and bench really stepped up and showed us all that they can ball with the best this league can offer. So with all our reserves gaining such confidence in the past season, I think our roster is pretty much intact for the next season and that we should bring along Jennings slowly (but surely). The only trade I would be ok with is if we got rid of Jamal Crawford and/or Corey Maggette, with Brendan Wright and/or Marco Belinelli as trade pieces. I'd much rather keep Maggette though, since I love him off the bench and he could essentially be a top prospect for 6th man of the year granted that we stay healthy and win more games, he can put up the kinds of numbers to beat out JR Smith and Jason Terry for 6th man of the year. I also like Belinelli very much, he showed us what he can do if given the chance and he was healthy, but with our plethora of shooting guards, I wouldn't mind seeing him go, and I would MUCH rather see him go than Anthony Morrow. But if I were given a choice, I'd rather keep Belinelli than Crawford just because of the horrid contract that he posesses. Although he has some crazy ass handles and I love watching him (unnecesscarily) cross people up.

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If you were GM of the Warriors, who would YOU draft?
Brandon Jennings
42 votes
Jrue Holiday
6 votes
Jordan Hill
5 votes
Tyreke Evans
12 votes
Stephen Curry
14 votes
Terrence Williams
4 votes
Jordan Hill
4 votes
Other (explain)
10 votes

97 votes | Poll has closed

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I would also take Brandon Jennings. Good post

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by i love sports101 on Jun 18, 2009 4:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

My Board:

Griffin
Harden
Thabeet
Rubio
Jennings
Hill
DeRozen
Evans
Flynn
Holiday

Brandon Jennings, Ty Lawson, or Tyreke Evans. A Warrior in 09.
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by ejdacanay on Jun 18, 2009 4:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

NBA Draft Big Board 2009
Update:
Tenth
Last updated: Wednesday; June 17, 2009
1.) Blake Griffin — PF, Oklahoma
2.) Ricky Rubio — PG, Spain
3.) James Harden — SG, James Harden
4.) Brandon Jennings — PG, United States of America
5.) Jordan Hill — PF, Arizona
6.) Jrue Holiday — PG, UCLA
7.) DeMar DeRozan — SG, USC
8.) Hasheem Thabeet — C, Connecticut
9.) Tyreke Evans — PG, Memphis
10.) Earl Clark — SF, Louisville
11.) Stephen Curry — PG, Davidson
12.) Ty Lawson — PG, North Carolina
13.) Jonny Flynn — PG, Syracuse
14.) Eric Maynor — PG, VCU
15.) DeJuan Blair — PF, Pittsburgh
16.) Austin Daye — SF, Gonzaga
17.) Terrence Williams — SF, Louisville
18.) Jeff Teague — PG, Wake Forest
19.) James Johnson — PF, Georgia Tech
20.) Chase Budinger — SG, Arizona
21.) Gerald Henderson — SG, Duke
22.) B.J. Mullens — C, Ohio State
23.) Derrick Brown — SF, Xavier
24.) DaJuan Summers — SF, Georgetown
25.) Tyler Hansbrough — PF, North Carolina
26.) Sam Young — SF, Pittsburgh
27.) Taj Gibson — PF, USC
28.) Darren Collison — PG, UCLA
29.) Damion James — SF, Texas
30.) Wayne Ellington — SG, North Carolina

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 18, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thabeet at 8? Really?

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by qin on Jun 19, 2009 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In the end, I would probably end up taking Brandon Jennings. I’d move one of our wing players (Ellis, Jackson, Maggette, Azubuike or Morrow) and the pick for a point guard, but that’s just not going to happen.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 18, 2009 4:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Trade Ellis?

Why is everyone down on Ellis? He’s better than any of the players in the draft right now (at his position). He’s not a point guard but he’s still a better guard than all of them.

This draft is not filled with any players you can build around other than Griffin. Take the best available or trade the pick. Jennings has talent, but like all draft classes, non of it is proven yet.

by wejammin on Jun 18, 2009 4:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If we get a solid big

I’d do it. I don’t know why everyone is so high on Ellis as well.

Brandon Jennings, Ty Lawson, or Tyreke Evans. A Warrior in 09.
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by ejdacanay on Jun 18, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

“I don’t know why everyone is so high on Ellis as well.”

Because a guard that averages 19+ points per 36 minutes with a TS% over 58 is a pretty damn good offensive player.

by Missing Barry on Jun 18, 2009 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

other than Griffin

People have said that if AR was in this draft, he would be the #1 over Griffin. This just shows how weak this draft class is and I think Griffin isn’t THAT great. He’s not as athletic as other PFs in the league today and I can see him struggling when he first enters the league…

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by JustSomeName on Jun 18, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Um, no. Griffin would have gone #1 or #2 last year, and he is as athletic as the other PF’s in the league.

by Missing Barry on Jun 18, 2009 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry thats not correct

last year on the draft websites…. he was projecting to be 6,7,8 in last years draft. So he went back and got better and was placed in a weaker draft. Those combinations allowed him to be number 1. if todays griffin was in last years draft, he would have been 3 at the best. Beasley and Rose were and are way ahead of him. Regardless, Griffin would be a top 3 pick in almost any draft so to say he would only be number 1 in a weak draft and isn’t as much of a cant-miss prospect as the other top picks is preposterous. However, Randolph would have been a top 3 pick in this draft. However, Griffin was a much better player than Anthony was in his freshman year and i doubt Randolph would have shot above Griffin due to the fact Griffin improved so much from his former(yet extremely good) skill set.

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by montadaboss on Jun 18, 2009 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beasley wasn’t and isn’t “way ahead” of where Griffin is now. His numbers in the same conference were slightly worse overall, and there were some questions about his character/attitude that there aren’t about Griffin. He also measured out an inch and a half shorter at the combine. I think most GMs would take Griffin over Beasley. I certainly would.

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by Sleepy Freud on Jun 18, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thats easy to say now.

Think back to a year ago when Beasley and Rose were rated pretty similarly and people weren’t sure which one would go one and which would go two. If Griffin had been in that draft he would have been a lower pick no question. If present day Griffin was in that draft then maybe he would be about the same as Beasley. With the knowledge of Beasley’s first season maybe present day Griffin would be ahead of him. But after Beasley’s second and season and Griffins rookie season who knows what everyone will be saying. (that was confusing)
But anyway, I guess my point is that the draft is unpredictable and its easy to forget what a beast everyone though Beasley was going to be. Everyone was really high on him a year ago.

by freerandolph on Jun 19, 2009 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Griffin had been in that draft he would have been a lower pick no question.

That wasn’t the question montadaboss or I was addressing. (Well, it might have been the one montaboss was addressing, but it wasn’t the one he said he was addressing).

If present day Griffin was in that draft

That was the question.

then maybe he would be about the same as Beasley.

Maybe, which isn’t the same as saying Beasley would be “way ahead” of today’s Griffin.

(that was confusing)

Indeed. A little reading comprehension would have made it less so. What part of “Beasley’s numbers in the same conference were slightly worse [than Griffin’s]” didn’t you get?

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by Sleepy Freud on Jun 19, 2009 5:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brandon Jennings

Jrue Holiday

Tyreke Evans

Stephen Curry

Terrence Williams

Jordan Hill

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by RunNdGun on Jun 18, 2009 6:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hill, and a surprise or two

I would take Hill, here’s why:

I believe in BPA, regardless of our roster’s makeup because we can make some adjustments via trade and signing RFAs (ala Turiaf last year) if we have cap room.

I’m going to amend R-rated’s #1-9 cuz it’s as good as anyone’s:

All these guys are gone by #7 for sure, and unless we’re trading up (which is not likely imo) it’s a moot point.
1.) Blake Griffin — PF
2.) Ricky Rubio — PG
3.) James Harden — SG
8.) Hasheem Thabeet — C
(no way he is available at #7, much less #8 imo)

The next “tier” could be available to us as late as #7,
4.) Brandon Jennings — PG
Don’t like him, don’t like him for us particularly. Don’t see the impact he’s going to make that makes us a better team. Am not impressed with his Euro experience. I project him as a backup combo guard forever for us.
5.) Jordan Hill — PF
This is my pick. Here’s why: he has an ability that our other bigs don’t – he can score at the block. This gives our bench a different look than our starters, will draw defensive attention which could open up shooters (Morrow), and I project he could be a starting PF. Plus he’s a Junior, and has a man’s body. I posted elsewhere the Knicks are eager to get him, and they may even move up to do so.
6.) Jrue Holiday — PG
This is a guy who could blow up and be an all-star, or he could bust. But that could be said for 3/4 of the first round so no revelation. If he and Collison were so good, what happened to UCLA? He’s one of three freshmen coming out this year who probably wouldn’t have if the draft had been deeper – not a rining endorsement.
7.) DeMar DeRozan — SG
Another freshmen who plays a position we are more than deep at. But what about the BPA argument? He doesn’t seem to a “special” quality that separates him from the rest.
9.) Tyreke Evans — PG (?)
He’s been described as a “swiss-army knife” type of player, and I bet Nelson could make good use of him. But he didn’t play PG at Memphis, isn’t reputedly a great shooter but a good ball handler for a non-PG. And he could swing into SF and attacks the basket well. All in all I’d prefer Hill if the choice is there between the two.

Ok, so here are my surprise picks. Let’s say Hill is gone, and Evans is gone or not high on the GSW board.

10.) Earl Clark — SF
Haven’t seen enough, but what I read from more than one site is motivation might be an issue. Red Flag.
11.) Stephen Curry — PG
We already have a scoring PG/SG (Assuming Monta is that). If he’s BPA then we could consider moving Monta. But he’d have to be hands down as good as Monta to do so.
12.) Ty Lawson — PG
- surprise #1 – here’s why: He leads a team, can shoot but does his best work getting others involved and though slight of build he is tough. Admit I’m biased because I like the Heels. He brings something to the table we don’t have: a pure PG. No, not to play with Monta, but to back him up and get the other players their shots while keeping the tempo up.
15.) DeJuan Blair — PF
- surprise #2. I know, I know, he’s not as tall but he’s got that wingspan, and most of all I loved watching him COMPETE. I particularly liked how he matched up with some other more highly heralded players (Thabeet). As a PF coming off the bench, he’d change what’s happening on the floor.

If we don’t like who’s there at #7, and we can trade down and still grab Lawson or Blair (no guarantee there) that’s my move.

by hardcore on Jun 18, 2009 7:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

jennings a combo gaurd?

do you know who he is? he isnt a combo gaurd at all

by hoopscorer23 on Jun 18, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

BJ's pro experience is as a combo guard
Something that must be pointed out is the fact that Jennings doesn’t even really run the point for Rome that much, as he’s often slated next to either of Rome’s dominant ball-handling guards Ibrahim Jaaber or Sani Becirovic. Clearly there wasn’t a great deal of thought put into how these players complement each other on the part of the club or Jennings’ camp when the roster was assembled last summer. There is no doubt that in another situation, Jennings may have been able to better put his playmaking talent on display, as he was obviously on a very short leash here in Rome. draftexpress.com

I’m just not all that impressed with him, as a PG or not. Especially if not. And No, I haven’t seen him play much – nor do I think most people have. I know he’s young, chose to go to Europe rather than play at a college he could actually get admitted to, and left Europe with a pretty bitter taste in his mouth. I’m also prejudiced against younger, impetuous players as our roster is young, and in some cases impetuous enough already …

by hardcore on Jun 18, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brandon Jennings is a true point guard.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 18, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because you say so, or because that’s what he played in HS? Most draft boards I’ve seen do discuss him as a PG, and I haven’t seem more than a couple highlight clips so I’m hardly an expert. If you’ve seen more of him than that, I’d really like to hear more because you’d have more to go on than I do.

But, what I do think is relevant is his most recent and highest level of playing experience which indicates he wasn’t even the best PG on his Euro team or he probably would have played more there. As it was his PT was intermittent and inconsistent both in minutes and position. Do we chalk that up to politics? cultural adjustment? lack of skill relative to the competition? All of the above? Hard to know.

Also, when I think of guys who went straight from HS to the pros, as BJ wanted to do, most of the ones who had success early were not PGs but either bigs or wings. I wonder if ANY of the PGs available in the draft will ever be more than a backup.

by hardcore on Jun 19, 2009 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

btw

tyreke evans DID play point gaurd at memphis for most of the season

by hoopscorer23 on Jun 18, 2009 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually no, he moved into the position mid-season
February 19, 2009
A mid-season position change that seems to have changed the complexion of his team’s season is certainly a good enough reason to revisit the topic of one of the NCAA’s most talented freshman. Tyreke Evans was asked to handle the point guard duties for Memphis full-time after a home loss to Syracuse that dropped his team out the top-25 for the first time in over three years, ….

And during that time -

He also ranks as one of the top rebounding guards in college basketball, pulling down over 7 per-40, and is also one of the top ball-thieves at 3.1 steals per-40. His productivity in those categories is terrific all things considered. The problem is that he’s almost amongst the NCAA leaders in field goal attempts and turnovers (at a dismal 4.5 per-40), highlighting one of his biggest flaws—his shoot-first mentality.

and -

As a point guard, Evans has been mostly a mixed bag. On one hand, he obviously possesses excellent basketball instincts and has a great sense for making plays for himself and others. Memphis is running a lot more pick and roll than they did last season, and Evans shows great potential in this area. The problem is that he’s an incredibly ball-dominant point guard, often looking like a fish out of water when he’s forced to give up the rock for more than a few seconds. Memphis’ offense often looks quite stagnant, with Evans over-dribbling the ball at the top of the key as his four teammates stand around and twiddle their thumbs. He can be pretty sloppy with the ball at times, displaying questionable decision-making skills and incredibly poor shot-selection, which wouldn’t be as much of an issue if he was able to make shots at a respectable rate from the perimeter.

so, if Hill is not available, and we are willing to go with another younger player who could play some PG, Evans is a viable choice. If you are looking for a dominant PG, we may be fooling ourselves.

This is why I thought the “swiss-army knife” depiction was appropriate:

It’s pretty obvious what Evans offers as a prospect, as he’s one of the premier shot-creators in the country, despite being only 19 years old. His combination of strength, aggressiveness and scoring instincts is almost unparalleled at this level, and should translate to the NBA level effectively when you consider his terrific footwork, body control, and hesitation moves. He does an excellent job pushing the ball up the floor in transition, can create (and finish) with either hand almost equally as well, and is an absolute bulldozer slashing his way through the paint and creating contact at the rim. While not an incredible leaper, Evans knows how to get to the free throw line, which helps minimize the fact that he’s not an incredible finisher percentage wise (just 50%). He’s also become pretty effective at finding teammates off the dribble, which has helped him rack up a decent amount of assists.

Sounds a bit Maggette-esque going to the hole, and good distributor, but this last part could be a concern, no?

While his skill-set may develop in time, Evans’ mentality looks extremely questionable—it’s hard not to come away with the impression that he’s a pretty selfish player. He’s likely going to have to revamp his shooting stroke entirely if he’s to ever become even a decent threat from the NBA 3-point line, something he’s been unwilling to do up until this point. draftexpress.com

Finally, back to the “position” question -

There a couple of crucial judgments which will be made individually by each and every NBA team that will play a huge role in where Evans’ draft stock ultimately lies. The first would be his likely position at the next level, point guard or shooting guard. The second would be whether he projects as a starter or backup at that position. The third would be whether he fits into what that team already possesses in terms of ball-handlers and outside shooters, as Evans clearly won’t fit into every system. It would be very difficult to play him alongside another guard who is also not much of a threat from beyond the arc, as that would make things very easy on the defense.

With the right teammates, though, and in a sparkplug/instant offense role, Evans could be very effective.

That last part is particularly relevant to our situation – at least for the next couple years with Crawford and Maggette being the primary sources of instant offense off the bench for GSW.

by hardcore on Jun 18, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lawson slight of build? Have you seen him? 5-11 or 6’ and about 195lbs isn’t really “slight”. Short for the NBA perhaps, but not slight. He also performed real, real well in the bench press at the combine.

by jae on Jun 18, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

thank you, I was thinking of height and how he'd match up against NBA guards who were taller ...

… and I thought you’d appreciate someone else sticking up for them Heels …

by hardcore on Jun 18, 2009 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

BPA

1 Blake Griffin
2 Ricky Rubio
3 Hasheem Thabeet
-———————————-
4 James Harden
5 Tyreke Evans
6 Brandon Jennings
7 Stephen Curry

by Bob on Jun 18, 2009 7:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

whom ever is the BPA.

It’s such a crap shoot as to what team is picking who between 2 – oh and at least 12, that this question really cant be answered until draft day and the Warriors are on the clock when we know who is left.

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by qin on Jun 19, 2009 9:25 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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