Picking up expensive players other teams are running from

by warriorsvictim on Jun 19, 2009 12:08 PM PDT Comment 12 comments

I have seen several blogs recently talking about how hard it would be for teams to pick up expensive players in the current economy. Generally that is an acceptable statement, but that should not be applied to the Warriors.

Our team is in a unique position based on the fan base that continues to support the team regardless of whether they win or not, and how many crazy ass decisions come out of the front office. I would wager that the Warriors will rank much higher on the Forbes list of NBA team value this coming December because we will continue to sell-out the arena through the economic down-turn unlike many winning teams (e.g. Atlanta and Miami).

I understand that Cohan has thus far refused to spend on players and/or approach the luxury tax, but there is no reason that could not change if there is a wholesale shift in attitude in the front office under Cohan. The Warriors' managing personnell could see this as a great opportunity to shift the direction of the club as more and more players are shopped around the league to save money and position for 2010 free agency. Especially considering how over spending a little bit right now could put the franchise on solid ground for many, many years to come and provide opportunities to under-spend down the line.

I think this team is so unpredictable that this is as likely as anything else. Am I crazy?

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crazy?

I understand that Cohan has thus far refused to spend on players and/or approach the luxury tax, but there is no reason that could not change if there is a wholesale shift in attitude in the front office under Cohan.

perhaps not crazy, but suffering from delusions?

fwiw, agree that in light of several other clubs jettisoning some expensive talent, GSW might be able to pick off a choice morsel in the process … but can’t see any reason why the club would now be venturing into the luxury tax realm when we aren’t even in the playoff realm …

by hardcore on Jun 19, 2009 12:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Cough!

Agree with Hard core

perhaps not crazy, but suffering from delusions?

Cohan is not going to go near that luxury tax. He has proved that the team will be a mess with more avg. players that need chemistry rather than finding a super hero to bring everyone closer together and work together.

Thanks Baron for the Tease !

lmao

Gotta love the Bay Area drama ;)

by JayFerg on Jun 19, 2009 1:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Actually, Cohan has gone near the lux tax several times. He just hasn’t gone over the lux tax.

by jae on Jun 19, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Get HEDO Turkgulu!

Brandon Jennings, DeMar DeRozen,or Jrue Holiday a Warrior on June 25.

by Sinigang on Jun 19, 2009 3:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Lebron in 2010. The Warriors will only have to pay him about $102 million, = )

We be doin' it CROOKLYN style!!!!!

by LighTz707OuT on Jun 20, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Afraid to say this but...

Elton Brand? Sixers are shopping him… he has better career averages than Boozer and Bosh, especially on the defensive end (more rpg and far more bpg). Jackson and Monta are crying for a presence in the post…

Major concerns are Brand’s health, his contract, and whether he could play in this system. Maggette would have to be involved in the trade (boo hoo), otherwise the money would make zero sense for the Warriors, i.e. keeping both Maggs and Brand through 2013. Right now, we’ve guaranteed $41mil through 2013… WIth Brand and no Maggs, we’d be at ~$48mil… If we put Crawford in the deal instead of Maggs, we’d be at ~$59mil. The deal would also have to involve someone like Wright, and then cash or a small contract.

If everything turned out fine from this, AR would probably see time at the 3 and the 4 with Maggs and Wright gone. If Brand was back at his old form, we would be a deep playoff team. If not, we’d be right back where we are. It’s a major risk, but could payoff huge….

by samuraaaaiiiiiii on Jun 19, 2009 3:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

that could work

Apparently Philadelphia is shopping him. They won’t be looking for that much given that he has missed 130 games in the past 2 years.
Crawford and Wright would be enough on their own salarywise. They could throw in Belinelli too if they wanted. Randolph would be peeved, but there would be your beef.
I’d do it if Philadelphia agreed.

by bleep on Jun 19, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

your crazy

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by i love sports101 on Jun 19, 2009 3:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Given infinite money, the best way for NBA teams to rebuild using that money is as follows:

1) Purchase draft picks from cash-starved teams
2) Assume large contracts from other teams in exchange for draft picks. If you are under the cap, you can just take on that player’s contract (a la the Sonics and Kurt Thomas, with whom they got 2 first round draft picks for a second rounder), or you can trade a shorter contract back to that team
3) Avoid free agency.

I think a common misconception is that a team with infinite money would just blow every team out of the water in free agency. This isn’t true, because the CBA allows teams to pay their players more than other teams (assuming Bird rights), because there is a maximum salary, and because teams over the cap can only offer the mid-level exception and below.

The above rules have been followed very well by Kevin Pritchard and/or Sam Presti in running their respective teams.

by markdash on Jun 19, 2009 4:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Infinite money (the model the Knicks seemed to have used) allows you to overpay the players you have and trade for players who have contracts that stretch on forever. It doesn’t really allow you to shop for new talent though.

It is tough to buy a winner in the NBA, though once you have a winner, you need to spend to keep it.

by jae on Jun 19, 2009 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

You can shop for new talent if you’re willing to spend $3m (or whatever the going rate is) for a first-round draft pick, usually in the middle/end of the round.

I don’t think anyone would argue that the Knicks used their deep pockets even close to efficiently. In fact, it seems they tried their best to spend it as poorly as possible. Just look at the draft picks they gave up to acquire Eddy Curry.

by markdash on Jun 19, 2009 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs