Thoughts on Ricky Rubio
by eaiOrange on Jun 20, 2009 5:07 PM PDT
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I think its amazing how everyone is pulling for their team to draft Rubio. I personally feel like atleast 80% of fans who want their GM to draft him have NEVER seen him play. Obviously I haven't seen him in person, but has anyone seen a youtube video on him? His shot is ugly and he zig-zags through the European talent (which there is no chance of him doing in the NBA). Even Jennings who has played in Europe with him says hes a bust and all he can do is pass the ball well, which isn't enough to be a star in the NBA. The hype is understandable because he has been playing European pro ball since he was 14, but look at all these European busts in the NBA that were supposed to be sooo good. It's a different game with not as much talent. I think everyone should go to youtube, watch a video highlight of Rubio's game and tell me if you can really see him being an All-Star in the NBA.
There is no doubt in my mind that I would rather have Jonny Flynn leading my team than Rubio. There is not 1 bad thing to say about Flynn other than his height. His 3 point shot wasnt the best in college but scouts say he has stood out with having one of the best 3-point range out of all the PG's in the draft. The kid just has "it"....the intangibles. At the end of the day, whoever picks Flynn in the draft will be regarded as a "great pick", regardless if he goes 4-15. Jennings is a stud though and you can just tell he has talent up the wazoo. The upside with him is tremendous and he could also be a great spark to this team.
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by i love sports101 on Jun 20, 2009 5:12 PM PDT reply actions
Funny, I think many people have watched Rubio play in a game… against the US Olympic team, no less. I was quite impressed with his ballhandling and composure in such a pressure-packed game against the top competition in the world.
by markdash on Jun 20, 2009 5:22 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
i dont want RR either
… for a variety of reasons, but it’s just possible Jennings has an ulterior motive for trashing him and wouldn’t put much stock in his exclamations …
There’s a reason why Ricky Rubio the top-rated guard in this draft.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 20, 2009 5:48 PM PDT reply actions
tell me if you can really see him being an All-Star in the NBA.
Yes.
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by sam23 on Jun 20, 2009 6:19 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
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Rated-R Superstar said: There’s a reason why Ricky Rubio the top-rated guard in this draft.
Everyone is saying that. But, all I see is people on the web and on tv talking about who will take Rubio. I have rarely heard anyone actually talk about his game. People assume since he was touted as a “phenom” that he has what it takes, but I want to hear someone really go in depth of what he brings to the table other than his ability to pass the ball. Experience doesn’t count because he has played with pros for years and yet has put up any good numbers.
his numbers have not been bad. he’s played excellent defense, and the only thing you can really say is subpar about his stats are his shooting percentages, which were hurt severely by his playing with one wrist for much of the season. questioning the fairly good numbers (and the absolutely phenomenal amount of assists) of an 18 year old with a broken wrist seems to be really nit picky.
the reason you don’t hear many people on tv talking about his game is that it would be a ratings killer. if there was a legitimate, in-depth draft scouting show, you wouldn’t get that many viewers. espn prefers to say “this guy is really good, here’s one thing he does well, and he’s also pretty skilled in this other area”. waiting for a talking head on tv to give you a scouting report longer than ten seconds is going to require a lot of patience, because probably won’t happen.
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Unlike you, I've watched him
but has anyone seen a youtube video on him?
I’ve watched him play a great deal (8 full games, about 5 partial games, plus the Olympics stuff).
Rubio has top-notch court vision, passing ability, and unselfishness for a player of any age. The fact that he’s young, tall, and has played against better competition than any PG in this draft.
His jumper is shaky, but that is the least important attribute for a PG. I’d rather have that problem than a whiny selfish brat (Jennings), a guy who hasn’t run a real offense or played against NBA-quality PG’s (Flynn).
good to know, dprodigy19
the main point of my post was not to absolutely rip his game, but rather point out that a lot of fans have jumped on the rubio bandwagon and havent even seen him play that much.
never said he was going to be awful, just dont think people have enough info to really backup why they want their team to draft him so much other than his name…..
and not only are good players in the draft (jennings) ripping on him, but heard when he worked out for a team they werent that impressed. there has to be a reason some of this negativity is coming up.
the main point of my post was not to absolutely rip his game, but rather point out that a lot of fans have jumped on the rubio bandwagon and havent even seen him play that much.
I think most of us have at least seen him play a couple olympic games, If you wanted to use that argument against someone why not Jennings (who is leading the poll for some reason)
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It wasn’t too long ago that Jennings wasn’t even beating Holiday in a poll and he was, at the point of your comment, leading the top-rated guard in the draft.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 20, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions
and not only are good players in the draft (jennings) ripping on him,
per his twitter, that turned out to be Jennings hyping up the match up for summer league.
http://twitter.com/BJennings3/status/2148816857
here’s what Jennings blogged after the actual game:
http://blog.underarmour.com/wheninrome/2008/12/12/barcelona-spain-trip-euro-league-game/
but heard when he worked out for a team they werent that impressed.
Rubio hasn’t worked out for anybody (he was supposed to work out for Sac, but got a 101 degree temperature & had to take antibiotics from the Kings medical staff.
by the evil monkey on Jun 21, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
ehh
I dont buy that argument….jennings, who was the #1 recruit in the nation coming out of highschool, grew up in America and a lot of people are familiar with his game. he has showed his stuff in the mcdonalds all-american game and other showcases in this country…..
americans have seen rubio play 1-2 times on national tv…whereas many people in this country were able to follow jennings’ game since he was a kid growing up in California
how many of Jennings’ high school games did YOU see? You can get a better idea of how good a guy is by watching him in the olympics than you can by watching him in the McDonald’s all-star game. None of Jennings’ Dominguez games were nationally televised and he did he last 2 or 3 years at Oak Hill Academy where its possible one or two were nationally televised, but the audience was certainly much, much smaller than any of the Olympics hooops games. I would all but guarantee that if you added up the total number of games GSoMers have seen Rubio play it would more than double the total number of games they’ve seen Jennings play.
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Stephen Curry.
1.Blake 2. Hasheem 3. Rubio 4. Flynn 5. Harden 6. Tyreke 7. Curry 8. Brandon Jennings 9. DeMar DeRozen 10. Jordan Hill (that is how the top 10 will play out)
+1
Another vote for Stephen Curry. This team needs fundamentals, confidence, and an infusion of basketball IQ.
I’m feeling Curry too. He just seems like a baller — same category as Harden.
After listening to ESPN’s latest draft jibberjabber, my latest feelings…
Guys I’d be happy with
Rubio (if we can trade up)
Harden (if he slips, which he won’t)
Curry
Guys I’d be OK with (roughly in order)
Lawson
Blair (after listening to David Thorpe, I’m sold)
Flynn
Evans
Holiday
Jennings (I dunno, lately I’m getting a Starbury/Franchise vibe about him)
Guys I wouldn’t be that OK with
Anyone else (incl. Thabeet, Hill, DeRozan, Clark, Henderson, Williams)
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by Sleepy Freud on Jun 21, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
whats wrong with clark and derozen?
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I dunno
They just seem more like “athletes” than players. I don’t hate them, I just think they seem more like mid-first rounders. I think I’d sooner take Terrence Williams than either of them.
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by Sleepy Freud on Jun 21, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Hollinger’s thoughts on DeRozan really scare me, I know Randolph didn’t have a very good projected PER last year either, but his formula is usually pretty good at determining who to stay away from.
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DeRozan will be a disaster
He’s a man without a position, because he isn’t athletic enough to handle NBA SG’s and is too small to guard NBA SF’s.
He could become a decent offensive player, but not good enough to make up for the rest of the holes in his game.
does anyone know how his defense is
and is he a shooting threat at all, and how fast is he.
rubio is a great defender
his shooting stroke is not there yet but it is better then jennings’. he is fairly fast but wont blow the wporld away
Rubio is a great defender
He gambles a little too much, but he uses his wingspan very well to mask the lateral quickness he lacks.
warriors need jennings/flynn
rubio is overhyped sam23 and he is overrated. cant wait to post after his first year in the league. thats my opinion and im stickin to it.
Sure: you like your “opinion,” ‘cos, like, it’s yours. Yay.
Most NBA scouts, who have watched and analyzed all of these players much more than you, and who know hoops much better than you, would disagree with your “opinion.”
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by Sleepy Freud on Jun 20, 2009 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions
p.s. Orange-man
Here’s how some other guys who are much smarter than you rank this year’s class of PGs.
Dave Berri at Wages of Wins (Jennings and Rubio excluded, as they didn’t play the same level of competition)
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1. Lawson
2. Curry
3. Maynor
4. Teague
5. Collison
6. Holiday
7. Flynn
Yes, Flynn dead last among the players sampled, and by a large margin.
Ed Weiland at Hoops Analyst
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1. Rubio
2. Lawson
3. Calathes
4. Holiday
5. Aaron Jackson
6. Jennings
7. Collison
8. Maynor
9. Flynn
10. Vasquez
Hollinger (also excluding Rubio and Jennings)
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1. Lawson
2. Curry
3. Calathes
4. Flynn
5. Holiday
And of course there’s DX’s highly respected Jon Givony, who continues to say that Rubio is by far the best PG prospect in the draft.
So, on the one hand, we have four very savvy hoops minds saying that Flynn isn’t anywhere near the top his class; and two of two saying that Rubio is tops. On the other, we have a some dude on message board with “orange” in his screen name babbling half-coherently about “potential” and “intangibles” and making sweeping judgments based on a few YouTube clips. Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, draw your conclusions accordingly.
My personal conclusions remain, “Too damn bad we can’t trade up to get Rubio” and “Why the heck don’t we seem to be considering Lawson???”
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by Sleepy Freud on Jun 21, 2009 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Hollinger’s projected PER loves Lawson too…… I really do wonder why he isn’t being talked about more.
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lawson is going to be a good backup PG...
people would rather try to draft someone who can end up being a star (bigger gamble, but bigger reward) GO BIG OR GO HOME!
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but why does everyone assume Lawson can’t be starter or even a star? What is that Flynn has that Lawson doesn’t?
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i never said flynn either, i dont like him
curry, holiday, jennings, rubio….maybe even evans (altho i see him as more of a SG tho)
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OK
I can kinda see why a lot of people think those 4 have more upside, but I think Lawson should at least be in the discussion, I think he has about as much upside as any of them other than Rubio.
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here's the problem with lawson
many, including myself, felt that his stats were inflated by being on a very good team. next, he did very poorly in all the draft workouts compared to all the other PGs i named (this is important b/c u are competing against equal or greater skilled players on an equal playing field)
i just dont think lawson can even be in the discussion since one of the names i mentioned will be available at the #7
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But he was the best player on that very good team. Again I don’t understand why being on a very good college team hurts your reputation. His combine numbers are about as good as anyone’s and I think basing your analysis of him solely on 3 on 3 showings is more than a little unfair.
Thing A
well
3on3 2on2 1on1 he sucked it up in all of them
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on the flip side, Hollinger’s system loved Rajon Rondo (2nd best prospect in his draft class) & Stuckey (5th in his class), but most thought they were just good backup PGs.
sometimes the NBA pigeon holes stars as special athletes and forgets that knowing how to play basketball has made great players out of average NBA athletes.
by the evil monkey on Jun 21, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
its true
but thats why this is a gamble.
id rather gamble on great athletes.
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go read the post by philthies
pretty much explains why id rather have the other PGs
id rather gamble on evans, holiday, jennings or even curry than go with lawson
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i read it. i think evans is a bust waiting to happen and we don’t really know much about holiday or jennings other than what we saw at the combines (which as we’ve discussed, really doesn’t excite me much). i do like curry, about as much as i like lawson, but i don’t think lawson’s stats were “inflated” by being arguably the best player on an ncaa champion and i don’t really care that 3 on 3 isn’t his game.
“safe” has become a dirty word, but lawson is a safe bet to be a good nba starter. best you can say about the others is that they have a slightly higher, but still remote chance of being better than a good nba starter. there’s really not much to say that lawson isn’t going to succeed.
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The other thing about Flynn
The total # of PG’s from the Big East starting in the NBA right now: 0
Shows how good his competition was.
I know some people are skeptical about Ricky Rubio’s defense.
Snippet (including the first-word typo) from the NBADraft.net Ricky Rubio player file:
Defesively, he plays with a lot of energy and puts in a great effort to put pressure on the opposing ball handlers … Quick hands and terrific anticipation allow him to get his hands on a lot of balls …
He’s given a nine on his defense out of a possible ten by them.
On his DraftExpress player file, anything related to defense isn’t a weakness other than maybe strength.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 20, 2009 9:22 PM PDT reply actions
Why all the Rubio bashing?
I keep posting, defending this kid. I’ve lived in Madrid for the past 8 years and I’ve seen him play probably at least 20 times, the Olympics included. He’s young and he’s talented. He’s got a chance to be an impact player as good as anyone in the draft, Blake Griffin included. But he’s only 18, he’ll need time to adjust, to get stronger.
It’s not fair to him, or any other youngster, to pile unrealistic expectations on him. Only the rare player (LeBron James) comes in and dominates in his rookie season. And only a handful show signs of becoming great players in their second season. Their are a few though that will demonstrate flashes of brilliance at such a young age, even though they make bonehead rookie mistakes and don’t really help their team to the next level, a la Anthony Randolph. Might we say Randolph is being a bit too hyped up around here too?
Whoever gets Rubio in this draft will be extremely happy to have him. He probably won’t start straight away, and his minutes will be limited, but he’ll contribute to any team he’s playing on. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s one of the top 5 PGs by the time he hits his prime, in say 10 more years or so.
The question is do you draft him, be patient with his development, and then 4 years down the line make a long term commitment? Or do you need a saviour now, and skip out on his potential for the sure thing? Problem is, the Warriors have gone that route so many times in the past, passing up on ‘potential’ for the quick fix (Todd Fuller, Joe Smith, Mike Dunleavy: any takers?) and we’re sitting here today arguing over hype. All these players are hyped to some extent, that’s the nature of promotion when it comes to the draft. Let’s try to separate out all the hype from a player’s potential based on what they’ve been able to do so far, (which in Rubio’s case is completely change the energy of the game when he’s been on the court), and try to set some realistic expectations. I know if you’re a Warrior’s fan, realistic expectations are hard to come by; either you’re a dreamer or a pessimist. But it’s only a game after all, there are so many more important things in the world.
by miguelito on Jun 21, 2009 4:06 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Ricky Rubio have something that many players in the NBA don't have
and that is basketball IQ. And don’t forget that he’s still a kid but plays like a vet., The only thing that can keep him from becoming an all star is his work ethic. If he has good work ethic then I don’t see the reason why he can’t be an all star or close to it.
Ricky Rubio's a confirmed gym rat.
That’s why he’s as good as he is at 18. Work ethic is not a problem here.
That's not what basketball IQ is
BBIQ is both the understanding of the nuances of the game and the ability to pick up little things that other players just do not- as a UCLA student, the example I use is Kevin Love, though there are a ton of other guys with it (Lebron, Battier, Jason Kidd).
As someone who grew up in the Bay Area, I see a ton of Jason Kidd (from when he was at Cal) in Rubio. He makes flashy and effective passes and does an excellent job running the offense, especially for a young guy.
So basically, understanding the game of basketball.
It is an intangible thing to measure, and I am sure a lot of basketball players have some basketball IQ, or else they wouldn’t be there. The only exceptions I could think of would be late bloomers from other countries who picked up a basketball late in their life and are in the NBA because their supreme athleticism convinces teams to gamble on their ability to learn the game.
But really though, on the Warriors, who doesn’t have basketball IQ? Stephen Jackson may take some bad shots but that is him adapting to the Warriors and Nelson’s system. And he seemed to adapt midseason to the understanding that he had to be the distributor on a point guard-less team. Ellis seems pretty knowledgeable of when to drive to the hole and when to pull up for a midrange. Maggette understands more than any other Warrior how to get to the free throw line. The only person I could see it argued for is Crawford, but even that is mostly because he got traded midseason and I was in school so I am not yet familiar with his game. I will say, however, that it would be hard to have a low basketball IQ and score 50 points in a game, twice in fact. You have to be doing something right.
I would say a lot of people have different understandings of how to be effective at the game of basketball, but that doesn’t mean they don’t have basketball IQ. Even in the people you named, you can’t tell me that Battier and James have the same type of basketball IQ.
The problem with this “stat” is that it seems to me observers are the main measure of it. And common sense is not a good indicator of anything, unless/until it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. I hear all the time that _ is an “absolutely terrible” defender, but then others will argue that the same player is a decent defender. Every viewer has some sort of bias when they watch a basketball player, and that affects their interpretations of the player’s “BBIQ”. Something a player does that is “high” BBIQ may go unnoticed by the observer because they are expecting them to have a “low” BBIQ. Or something one may consider high “BBIQ” may not be considered high “BBIQ” by another observer.
Would LeBron James screw ups and errant passes in the overtime game versus the Magic mean he has a low “BBIQ”? Or do we forget those screw ups because we assume in general he has a high “BBIQ” and those screw ups were the anomaly and not the norm?
I especially think it is hard to measure Rubio’s “BBIQ”, because barely anyone in the US has seen him play. So I am especially hesitant to take measures of BBIQ about people like Jennings and Rubio. Because apparently, Jennings has a low one, but on those highlight videos, which is all I see of Rubio anyway, Jennings seems to understand what to do just fine.
Trade Ellis plus our 7th pick...
in a deal for Rubio, and we use CJ as our point guard until Rubio is ready. Why? Because our biggest weakness is perimeter defense and, as has been pointed out:
Defesively, [Rubio] plays with a lot of energy and puts in a great effort to put pressure on the opposing ball handlers … Quick hands and terrific anticipation allow him to get his hands on a lot of balls …"
Lost, and clueless in the Bay; =
Monte has not proven anything yet, he has no all star appearances and no defense with very little handles, he can’t run a team or even drive a Moped; =
He’s ready to implode at the drop of a pen, we need a leader, a true point guard, and Rubio is worth two Monte’s and a couple of Moped’s to boot; = Monte is good for 20 a night, and there a dime a dozen in this league: He just happens to do it with a lot of fan fare,
Rubio is a prodigy and a big man’s Steve Nash and Pistol Pete: in a few years Monte will be forgotten but Rubio will be setting NBA records:
I would have to disagree
I think Monta can be a good point guard.
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by i love sports101 on Jun 21, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
i disagree with everything you have said
the steve nash and pistol pete comparisons disgust me. hes white, get over it. hes not going to be better than either of those players, he hasnt be THAT amazing in euro league or in the olympics…dont get me wrong i think he will be great but hes not going to be as good as either of them.
next, ellis has proven a lot. he has proven that he can be an efficienct and dynamic scorer in the league. he has proven to be the fastest guy in the league. he has proven that he can VASTLY improve his game over a summer a number of times (most improved and runner up the year after). and he has even shown spurts of having excellent vision
id rather take the gamble on ellis who has proven many more things than someone who has proven very little IN THE NBA
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So, explain to me how Maravich and Rubio compare again? Or Nash?
Last I checked, I thought Nash was a poor defender who was an excellent shooter. I don’t know how Rubio will turn out, but his perceived strengths (which is what I am assuming you are going off, correct me if I am wrong) include his defense and his perceived weaknesses include shooting.
And I could be very wrong, since I’ve never seen the man play, but I heard that Maravich took a large amount of shots, and scored a large amount in college. Does that seem to parallel Rubio’s career so far?
Everyone is so obsessed with finding the next great white hope in basketball, it gets in the way of rational thought.
To each his own
To each his own, but it tells me you can’t assess talent very well:
Monte is turn over prone when he has the ball in his hands, he has a 2 guard mentality, stop reading all the hype from people who don’t know what they’re talking about, show me the money !! Talk is cheap my friend, Monte has not proven himself at the point at all, and to try to compare him to Rubio who is a true point guard is a joke:
Read my lips, Monte will never be the leader of this team, his physic is far too fragile, I would not listen to one word Fitzgerald has to say, he’s been brought and paid for and says nothing but the company lines:
We will lose Monte by next year, he will be back in Tenn crying for a trade mark my words, he’s a 20 point a night scorer who is exciting to watch because of his speed, but he’s no franchises player, hell he’s not even an all star:
We need to build around a leader, and that’s what Rubio will be is a leader with unbelievable court sense and passing skills of the likes of Magic, Pistol and Nash:
OH NO
Monte’s physic is far too fragile! Wut shud wee due?
by Rob Kurz blocks Yao Ming on Jun 21, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
whos monte
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Monte’s physic is far too fragile! Wut shud wee due?
Well well, wut shud we due ? You shud wait for another Moped accident? Or better yet wait for him to implode because he can’t take the pressure of being the leader? Or better yet go after Rubio a true point guard in the draft, but wait, that would mean an intelligent decision and since you can’t spell that may be a little to much to expect:
What this team needs is another 2 guard who can score 20 a night ;= we don’t need a true point guard with unbelievable court vision and passing skills along with leadership qualities :P)
What this team needs is another 2 guard who can score 20 a night
We should go after this kid Monte, I think he would be a great backcourt buddy for Monta Ellis
by antihero on Jun 21, 2009 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Interesting..
Thought provoking discussion on this guy.
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match up well in the point/counterpoint over the other huge ? beyond roster additions/alterations — is ‘me’ the floor leader to lift the team back into contention?
i think he’s going to miss twenty games or more with physical or emotional ailments, so even if he fulfills his fan’s expectations, the team better have an alternate ready or in training, other than watson who’s probably taking bigger $$ and leaving.
Moped:
Your forgetting about the ten games he will miss for getting upset because Don pulls him out of a game because he’s struggling, and the 10 games he will miss because of a roller skating accident ;=
what are you talking about
struggling? hes was owning when he was back…averaging 25/5/5…
ellis > rubio now
ellis > rubio later
ellis jr > rubio
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Jennings is a poorman Nick the quick without range.
I don’t know about drafting Brandon Jennings at all. The only thing he has on Rubio is speed and leaping ability. Other then that he is dumbass also. Nelson would put his ass on the bench if he acts up here. So, I wouldn’t want to draft him at all. I want Rubio. His play making skill remains me of steve nash. And he could play D too. I would trade Crawford and our 7th pick to the gizz for Rubio. And throw in The bust to pay off Rubio buyout too. lol
by warriorfan4life on Jun 21, 2009 6:41 PM PDT reply actions
is it possible
that rubio might drop down to #7? with that 6.6 million buyout he might not even be able to play this coming season? we already know he doesn’t want to go to memphis. okc already has westbrook. kings need immediate help, and might pick up curry anyways. how big of a deterrent might that buyout be?
if he slipped to 7, he could stay a year in spain and that would be totally fine with me. it’s not as if this team is a threat to make noise in the playoffs if we get an impact rookie at the 7. might as well let him wait a year and reap the benefits of a higher pick next year.
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Rubio
1st option: Don’t draft anyone. Package a player or two plus our #7 for a really good proven player.
2nd Option: Trade duds like Belinelli and Wright with our #7 pick for Rubio.
3rd Option: Draft a mediocre player who will sit on the bench aka, Wright, Belinelli and Buike and have him do nothing productive at all for 2+ years while we all look back in hindsight and realize we should have either traded players + our draft pick for a bonafied NBA stud or traded players + our draft pick for Rubio.
Rubio brings something to the table the college boys don’t. High basketball IQ and experience. Playing against 19 year old boys at colleges like Davidson, Central Texas Tech and East Carolina State doesn’t do the greatest job at prepping a player for the NBA. Having 4 years of pro ball against men under his belt combined with the fact he’s only 18 is much more exciting then the before mentioned boys who play against sub par talent (99% of college players don’t make the NBA).
Rubio doesn’t have the same track record Jason Kidd, Bobby Hurley or Chris Paul had coming out of college, but Rubio has wonderful court vision which creates a great offense with good players around him. Rubio will out think you, rarely out play you. He also has a knack for being in passing lanes a la Iverson, Monta, LBJ…Yes, he doesn’t dunk on fools. Yes he doesn’t drain like Curry, but with the Dubs scoring more than 99% of the NBA teams, they don’t need another scorer! They need a facilitator. Monta ain’t that person and in no way is Stephan Curry, Johnny Flynn, Brandon Jennings or dude from UNC. Regardless, the way the Dubs usually operate on Draft Day, this draft doesn’t look like it will improve the existing squad much at all….
It’s not about how much we score. It is about how efficiently we score. We could ALWAYS use another efficient scorer.
And if experience against MEN is so important, why do people ever draft college players? Why not just always draft international players?
Experience is one thing. Talent is another. If you combine experience with talent, that is the best of both worlds. I’m not arguing Rubio is not talented, but let’s say he isn’t as talented as Jennings, and that this was a verifiable fact. Would you take Rubio because he has more experience? Or would you take Jennings, knowing that he will gain experience after a few years of playing with MEN and will then be equivalent in experience and greater in talent?
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