BREAKING: Shaq to CAVS for B. Wallace/S. Pavlovic

by RayAlmeda on Jun 24, 2009 9:30 PM PDT Comment 102 comments

It's official according to ESPN:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4285489

Shaq is going to CLEVELAND to partake in the craziness of Lebron/Shaq VS. Kobe/Gasol.

Did the dream FINALS matchup for next year get even MORE interesting? My thoughts on this are obvious since I'm such the Laker hater, but what do you all of you think about the prospect of Lebron James STAYING in Cleveland if this brings the Cavs a championship?

This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!

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good job

keepin us informed around the league, nice

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by i love sports101 on Jun 24, 2009 9:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

anyways all night draft talk anybody

“I don’t know about you guys but i am too excited to sleep. I can’t believe the draft is 2morrow!! There will be trades, shocking draft picks, everything!!! Notice that I use exclamation marks at the end of every sentence,lol. Anyways is there anybody out there willing to pull an all nighter just to talk about the draft and possible trades??? I will be up.

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by i love sports101 on Jun 24, 2009 9:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I will be asleep...because I know something bad is about to happen tomorrow.

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by RunNdGun on Jun 24, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

hack a shaq for us now only twice a year, weee

by mosdl on Jun 24, 2009 9:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

heh now kurz will never see the court

by Warriorfan on Jun 24, 2009 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

kurz might not even make the team next season

he’s not signed for next season right now

by IQofaWarrior on Jun 24, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

thank you baby jesus

by Warriorfan on Jun 24, 2009 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

wanting to know what Shaq thinks about this has made me tempted to look at “twitter” for the first time ever

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by sam23 on Jun 24, 2009 9:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

this is big

if he can stay healthy the cavs will be crazy good

by dubzfan on Jun 24, 2009 9:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Is Nelson/Riley inquiring about just how available Steve Nash is right now?

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by sam23 on Jun 24, 2009 9:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

im sure they called a few time already about nash

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by Rach on Jun 24, 2009 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

i love this

suns in rebuild mode is amare next??

by FeartheBeard4 on Jun 24, 2009 10:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

my guess is no

this clears a lot of ’10 room, so I assume they would try to keep him

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by sam23 on Jun 24, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

hey guys......

this would be a great deal for the cavaliers…..but yeah i love sports101……i cant really stay up all night but i got a couple of hours….but yeah who do u like?

by GSW4evr on Jun 24, 2009 10:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Cool

I really want us to tak either Jennings or Evans. I think Hill would be a huge mistake

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by i love sports101 on Jun 24, 2009 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

my first personal choice would be jennings.......evans not so much.....where would he fit line up wise?

why u think hill wud be a mistake…..i definately dont

by GSW4evr on Jun 24, 2009 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

i don't think he is a mistake

i just see more of a need in the pg/sg area. I see Tyreke as nice shooting guard

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by i love sports101 on Jun 24, 2009 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

ima take a break

im finna eat some cereal, fruity pebbles to be exact LOL. There the chocolate ones though

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by i love sports101 on Jun 24, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

i like evans a lot more as a 2 guard, but i’d still be wary of him in the top ten. he’s just a high volume, low efficiency shooter, who happens to rebound fairly well. he’s not an outstanding athlete, defender, or distributor. i think he could be a decent bench guard who would see most of his minutes at the 2, but be able to play the point every now and then. taking him in the top 10 and expecting him to fill out your starting lineup seems like a bust waiting to happen.

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by cap'n hack on Jun 24, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well put

now u are making me think about tyreke alot now

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by i love sports101 on Jun 24, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jay Bilas has Evans ranked third on his big board behind Griffin and Thabeet.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 24, 2009 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

yea i seen it

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by i love sports101 on Jun 24, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

He has Rubio fifth on his big board and he named two weaknesses of Rubio’s and those were his shooting and his athleticism. Well, apparently, his athleticism wasn’t bad enough for Bilas to knock his speed or what have you offensively and his ability to stay in front of people defensively. I don’t understand why he isn’t higher on his board based on the fact he only gave Rubio a few knocks. I’m sure John Stockton, Steve Nash and Deron Williams were deemed as not being athletic.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 24, 2009 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Deron Williams

never had a knock for not being athletic…. Stockton & Nash yeah… But Deron, his knocks were lack of effort on D and shooting

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by The Dedication on Jun 24, 2009 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

i disagree thoroughly with much of what jay bilas has to say about the draft. i remember watching a couple pre-draft shows and wondering if he was watching the same guys as me. there was a lot about his board that i didn’t understand.

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by cap'n hack on Jun 24, 2009 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

If we don't get a point guard, who are we gettin??

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by i love sports101 on Jun 24, 2009 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jordan Hill is the pick if Stephen Curry is not.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 24, 2009 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Damn it!!!

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by i love sports101 on Jun 24, 2009 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

im still praying to god hill isn’t their draft pick. Everyone has to Pray tonight. JRUEEEEEEEEEEEE HOLIDAY PICK OUT OF NOWHERE. Even tho seems unlikely.ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.

Update- 1. Blake 2. Hasheem 3. Rubio 4. Jonny Flynn 5. James Harden 6. Tyreke Evans 7.Stephen Curry 8. Brandon Jennings 9. DeMar DeRozen 10: Jordan Hill
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by Sinigang on Jun 24, 2009 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

This all could have been one giant smokescreen and Holiday could be the pick.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 24, 2009 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

that would be cool but I think Curry is going to the Kings Now because Geoff Petrie likes shooters.ALA Mike Bibby.

Update- 1. Blake 2. Hasheem 3. Rubio 4. Stephen Curry 5. James Harden 6. Tyreke Evans 7.Brandon Jennings 8. Jordan Hill 9. DeMar DeRozen 10: Jrue Holiday
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by Sinigang on Jun 25, 2009 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That’s interesting considering that the names coming out of the Kings’ camp were Rubio, Holiday, Evans and Flynn. Once again, the “smokescreen” comes to mind.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 25, 2009 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

i think there’s a lot that can change between now and the time we draft, but right now, i’d guess hill is the guy. a memphis/wolves trade could change that though.

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by cap'n hack on Jun 24, 2009 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

the only way we can have either harden evans or curry

is if sacramento takes none of them or either of the top 3

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by i love sports101 on Jun 24, 2009 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

If Rubio goes to the Thunder, we’ll have the chance to select either Curry or Evans if the Kings really do like Flynn instead of Evans.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 24, 2009 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thats are only chance

If all of them are gone ill be really happy to pick Jennings

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by i love sports101 on Jun 24, 2009 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

They’ll shock everyone and take Jrue Holiday.

Riley: “It was all one big smokescreen, you hacks.”

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 24, 2009 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

i’ve become less and less enamored with holiday as draft day approaches. he was good in high school and in the combines, but the college production (while out of position) was really bad. it seems like a risky pick to me.

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by cap'n hack on Jun 24, 2009 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I do remember that for the UCLA-VCU game he really stepped up after Collison went off in the second half. I really think that he just didn’t have enough chance to shine because of Collison and Shipp. I think he still is still largely an unknown.c

by belilaugh on Jun 25, 2009 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

isn't everyone a risk?

I mean, to me, jennings would be a far greater risk (with his size and playing poorly in europe) yet he is a favorite for many GSOMers.

Holiday would be a great fit with the warriors. We really need a defensive minded PG to help us, regardless of ellis attempting to be our starting PG. Holiday can at worst (imo) become an excellent backup and at best become what baron was for us (not necessarily the same play style but the missing piece to play along side monta).

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by LostHawkSJSU on Jun 25, 2009 1:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

jennings would be a far greater risk (with his size and playing poorly in europe) yet he is a favorite for many GSOMers.

Jennings youtube clips>Holiday youtube clips

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by sam23 on Jun 25, 2009 6:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

From what Andy Katz had to say this afternoon, the Grizzlies want the fifth and sixth overall picks or at least Kevin Love in a package that contains the fifth overall pick. The Timberwolves wouldn’t do it.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 24, 2009 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wish they would make a deal

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by i love sports101 on Jun 24, 2009 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

i’d be tempted to do 5 and 6 for rubio if i’m the wolves, but leave love off the table. of course, the grizz pretty much announcing that thabeet is the guy was a stupid move from trading perspective. now the wolves could package the 5 and the 18 to the thunder, get rubio and watch the thunder take harden (who makes sense there). that of course, still probably leaves us with hill.

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by cap'n hack on Jun 24, 2009 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Does anybody even want hill on this blog??

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by i love sports101 on Jun 24, 2009 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

i’d be fine with hill at the 7. he doesn’t fit a need, but he’s a really good rebounder, has a decent midrange j and might be the best player on the board if harden/rubio/curry are all gone (which seems very likely right now). if nothing else, he gives you the flexibility to deal either him or wright and patch up another perceived hole on the team.

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by cap'n hack on Jun 24, 2009 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

If we didn't have Wright i would love to take Hill

I just see bigger needs at the point guard shooting guard area

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by i love sports101 on Jun 24, 2009 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Point guard is really the one area in which we lack the most depth and this is a good point guard draft.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 24, 2009 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn’t mind Hill if we didn’t have Randolph, Biedrins, Turiaf and Wright. I think Wright has more potential than Hill, but I think Hill may have the chance to become an All-Star, really. Wright does as well, but I think there’s more a likelihood from Wright’s side compared to Hill’s.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 24, 2009 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

what is Shaq's twitter again? lol

and the funny part is queen Bron Bron still isn’t going to win the big one. lol anyways looks like it’s going to be The nash, J-rich and Amare shows now. Hopefully they could put it together. And yes i want my boi to do well again.

by warriorfan4life on Jun 24, 2009 10:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I can't believe I'm doing this

THE_REAL_SHAQ

by IQofaWarrior on Jun 24, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

good looking out bro.

by warriorfan4life on Jun 24, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

it looks like he found out through twitter and not the suns

i think that’s wrong how he had to learn that way and not the team telling him.

by dubzfan on Jun 24, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

oh

I didnt know Shaq was illiterate

by 123707THIZZ on Jun 24, 2009 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

He calls it “Shaq-phonics” or what have you.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 24, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lebron/Shaq vs Kobe/Gasol would be a Finals ratings extravaganza

but that’s looking too far ahead. I’m looking forward first to see how Shaq battles Dwight Howard in the East. Shaq’s getting up there in age, so this may be his last chance at winning the big one once more.

As for Lebron staying in Cleveland, Shaq is a free agent after next season. If Lebron and Shaq win a championship, Lebron might think that “he did his job” in Cleveland, and could look for other challenges elsewhere. If they fail to win the big one, Lebron might think that his chances at winning in Cleveland are over, and will want to look elsewhere. Either way, I don’t think Shaq’s arrival in Cleveland for next season affects Lebron’s decision to stay in Cleveland after next season.

by IQofaWarrior on Jun 24, 2009 10:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

So after this season, Shaq will have played with each of the current top 3 players. Nice.

by ZaMzAm FiRe on Jun 25, 2009 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

ESPN execs just messed their pants

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by sam23 on Jun 24, 2009 10:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I wonder if they’ll give any consideration to making Cleveland/LA the X-mas game this year

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by sam23 on Jun 24, 2009 10:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Hmmmm..... ANY NEW SHAQ NAMES?!

The Big Compliment?

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by The Dedication on Jun 24, 2009 10:15 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

it is sort of like the cavs management said “you’re the best lebron; we want you to win a title here.” that’s a pretty nice compliment if you ask me.

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by cap'n hack on Jun 24, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL

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by i love sports101 on Jun 24, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

complement*

by racsan on Jun 24, 2009 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

No I know how to spell

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/compliment

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by The Dedication on Jun 24, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

But perhaps not read?

Sorry, couldn’t resist.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=complement

by ffgolden on Jun 24, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mine

was referrin to The Big Honor(able)….. It would be an honor to play with Shaq (Either Old Or Younger).

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by The Dedication on Jun 24, 2009 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That works

But I like mine better, The Big Complement, since Lebron has been looking for someone to complement his play since he came into the league.

by racsan on Jun 25, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

It was only a matter of time...

before someone posted the definitions and ruined jae’s fun.

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by olympicmike on Jun 25, 2009 12:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

How much you wanna bet that doesn’t change a thing? If it does I will pay you a very nice complement.

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by sam23 on Jun 25, 2009 6:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Luv the trades

I hope more are to come, especially with our Warriors

The Time Is Now! Win Warriors Win!

by ballin on Jun 24, 2009 10:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Anyone else dreading about having to hear this talked about on ESPN for the entire summmer now

by 123707THIZZ on Jun 24, 2009 11:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

It’s either this or the Lakers, right?

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 24, 2009 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

its going to be both probably

Their going to start up the Cavs/Shaq VS Lakers/Kobe really early.

by 123707THIZZ on Jun 24, 2009 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

You guys think Shaq wiill make the cavs champs??

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by i love sports101 on Jun 24, 2009 11:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

They need to do more than just bring in Shaq.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 24, 2009 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

one or two vet minimum guys might head there and do the job. i don’t think they’re all that far away. they were pretty close this year and adding a capable post scorer was something they really needed to do.

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by cap'n hack on Jun 24, 2009 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yea

Michael Redd or Vince Carter are trade possibilities, maybe the cavs should take a look to get one of them

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by i love sports101 on Jun 24, 2009 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

he could be the final piece there. lebron is so good and only getting better, adding any legitimate “second best player on a contender” could be enough.

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by cap'n hack on Jun 24, 2009 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Delonte West needs to be replaced in the starting lineup.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 24, 2009 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

maaaybe. he’s a good defender who hits the shots he takes. shaq is a huge upgrade over wallace, even though he’s on the downside of his career. adding a bigger wing defender would help them out a lot though. i’m not sure it needs to be a starter caliber guy, but someone who can d up big shooting guards would be helpful.

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by cap'n hack on Jun 24, 2009 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

at least an average size 2 guard

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by i love sports101 on Jun 24, 2009 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Plus

with Mo Williams they have a nice trio

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by i love sports101 on Jun 24, 2009 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thats what I also thought

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by i love sports101 on Jun 24, 2009 11:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Sooooo

are any of u guys gonna stay up all night

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by i love sports101 on Jun 24, 2009 11:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I’ll probably end up fading in less than five hours.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 24, 2009 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

nah, it’s already 20 to 2 in the midwest. i’m a definite night owl, but i’ve got to get up tomorrow at a reasonable hour. i’ve got less than an hour in me.

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by cap'n hack on Jun 24, 2009 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, I have school in the morning

So that’s a no no…. Unless AR comes to class and talks about Economics

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by The Dedication on Jun 24, 2009 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL me too

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by i love sports101 on Jun 24, 2009 11:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Im bout ready to catch some z's myself

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by i love sports101 on Jun 24, 2009 11:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Ima try stayin awake by dippin my head in cold water constantly LOL

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by i love sports101 on Jun 24, 2009 11:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

All right GSoM Good Night!!!!

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by i love sports101 on Jun 24, 2009 11:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Later.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 24, 2009 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is no good for the cavs

sure, shaq give them even more of an inside presence but look what shaq did for the suns. If im not mistaken he didnt do that much. Kerr picked him up to deal with the boozers, duncans and odens of the west coast. They didnt even make the playoffs.

One could argue that its the east coast for him now where anyone can get in with a 12-70 record and all they have to do is worry about dwight. But i dont know. Shaq is getting up there in age and weight. I dont think its going to help that much.

by Butt Secks on Jun 24, 2009 11:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

yeah, but ben wallace was a corpse out there. shaq’s fading, definitely, but he’s still a big upgrade over wallace and can score in the post, something they really lacked last postseason. plus, he’s only there for one year. if it were a 2 or 3 year deal, the cavs would be making a mistake here, but even if he’s just a slight upgrade, the deal was a good one.

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by cap'n hack on Jun 24, 2009 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Way to go Ferry, you made this trade 4 months too late.

Thing C

by markdash on Jun 25, 2009 12:00 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

does anyone think that the suns have another deal in the mix for a young center

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by Rach on Jun 25, 2009 12:28 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

yes, they are gonna trade Robin Lopez to their rotation.

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by sam23 on Jun 25, 2009 6:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow Danny Ferry and ownership must have one big smile on their face. Talk about an absolute steal on so many levels. First, they gave up players that had very minimal through the season/playoffs. Second, they add a big time player in Shaq who is attracts so much attention and now pair him up with Lebron? Are you kidding me, i feel that Cleveland is making its way into becoming the next Big Apple in terms of media wise.

by Spee-D on Jun 25, 2009 4:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Shaq needs to get his washed up @$$ out the game

And I hate Lebron after his classlessness last year after the magic destroyed them. Now I’m glad Dwight gets to crap on Lebron and Shaq 4 times a year now.

by Golden Boy on Jun 25, 2009 7:41 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

explain why you think Shaq is washed up and should retire….the numbers certainly don’t reflect that.

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by sam23 on Jun 25, 2009 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I actually have to agree with half of what Golden Boy said. Yeah, Lebron was a sore loser, lost a little respect for him. But Shaq played great last year, the last time he played like that was when he won the championship in Miami. Shaq got about 2 more years left in him.

We be doin' it CROOKLYN style!!!!!

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