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OPEN THREAD: Pre-2009 NBA Draft

With the #1 pick in the 2009 NBA Draft WARRIORS SOUTH select Blake Griffin!  (AP Photo/Seth Wenig)

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With the #1 pick in the 2009 NBA Draft WARRIORS SOUTH select Blake Griffin! (AP Photo/Seth Wenig)

We Got Links: Pre-2009 NBA Draft Golden State Warriors Linkage Madness

We Got Amare? RUMOR: Warriors inquired about Suns' Amare Stoudemire and offered Andris Biedrins. Well probably not today at least.

But we got a Pre-2009 Draft Day OPEN THREAD for you.

Use the comment section in this post to keep the pre-draft jokes, updates, jokes, insight, jokes, commentary, and jokes flowing. Please use this thread instead of FanPosts and FanShots for updates.

Let's keep everything in one place to make it easier for all us to keep track of the madness.

FJ, R Dizzle, and I will commence the Live Blogging and Live Twittering at 4:30pm PST. 

Happy Draft Day!

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waa

jamal for speedy claxton again? and acie law???

So I don't have a signature well these words would do! Who knew that upgrades can have downgrades too!

by 24k state fan since 87 on Jun 25, 2009 2:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

FROM ESPN...

Kelenna Azubuike, Andris Biedrins, and Marco Belinelli to Phoenix in the rumored trade.

by streetballer on Jun 25, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

When does the Draft Start 4:00 or 4:30?

Clippers1. Blake Griffin
Memphis2.Hasheem Thabeet
Thunder3.Ricky Rubio
Kings4. Stephen Curry
Minny5. Tyreke Evans/or James Harden
Minny6. Jonny Flynn
7.WARRIORS- James Harden/or Tyreke Evans
8.Suns- Jordan Hill
9.Raptors- DeMar DeRozen
10.-Bucks Jrue Holiday

by Sinigang on Jun 25, 2009 2:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Draft preview starts at 4pm.

And the official draft starts at 4:30pm.

I think…

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

correctamundo

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

"It takes a special kind of anti-mojo for a team to miss the playoffs 14 out of 15 seasons. Like, say, the Warriors under Chris Cohan."

by kenntoe on Jun 25, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good times.

I get out of work at 4 and thought I was going to miss all the fun.

There's a party in my mind.
And I wish that I was there.

by qin on Jun 25, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

now Vince Carter goes to Magic....

east is getting absurd…..

Dwight, Rashard Lewis, Turkoglu, Jameer Nelson…
well i guess starts piling up in some teams in the east may spark a weapons race, weakening the west and easing our path to the playoffs. What do you think?

by Zena on Jun 25, 2009 2:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Turkoglu said he'd opt out

Don’t count him on the Magic quite yet. This move was made so they could resign him.

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by R Dizzle on Jun 25, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

possible, but it could also just be teams that were pretty good in the east feasting on the talent sitting on bottom feeder teams. i’d guess that the whole nba just becomes more top-heavy.

heart of a champion, will of the warrior.

by cap'n hack on Jun 25, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't wait....

all these trades are making me excited to see what happens in the next few hours…

by StephenJaaackson! on Jun 25, 2009 2:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The Crawford trade is official now.

We don’t have to wait until July 1st to have it official.

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 2:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

link?

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by R Dizzle on Jun 25, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This works [ESPN]

The Atlanta Hawks and Golden State Warriors have finalized a trade for Jamal Crawford.

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by R Dizzle on Jun 25, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

awesome!

good to see our GMs first move has been successful, hopefully it leads to some even better moves (bosh/amare).

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by LostHawkSJSU on Jun 25, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whoa whoa

HUGE news about Tyreke Evans. [Sac Bee]

Apparently he was the driver in a shooting? Brings into question HUGE character issues. High potential for draft slippage. Oh man…

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by R Dizzle on Jun 25, 2009 2:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

wow… that’s awful.

heart of a champion, will of the warrior.

by cap'n hack on Jun 25, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah that sucks for him.

As a Warriors fan it doesn’t affect me since I’ve never wanted him in Golden State anyways. But yeah, it sucks if it’s going to affect him during the draft.

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm Luvin' the trade for the Magic

Breaking: Orlando Magic Acquire Vince Carter of the New Jersey Nets for Rafer Alston, Tony Battie, and Courtney Lee [Third Quarter Collapse]
Dwight + Vinsanity vs. Shaq + LeBron vs. Boston Three Party + Rajon

The East is going to be really interesting next season.

by Atma Brother ONE on Jun 25, 2009 2:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It's basically now or never for the Cavs and Magic.

Kind of like the Celtics move 2 years ago with KG and Ray Ray. Stirs things up…makes it insane over there. Should get pretty interesting, but who knows? Maybe the 76ers will come up (AI and Brand) or Chicago might shake things up again.

Anything is possible…

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by R Dizzle on Jun 25, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the Magic have a pretty big contention window with their superstar being so young. It’s now or never for the Cavs though. Their superstar is NY bound a year from now. It’s now or never for the Celts too. KG, Ray-Ray, and Pierce aren’t getting any younger.

by Atma Brother ONE on Jun 25, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

The only thing shortening the Magic’s window is VC, but other then that they’re still pretty good for the future as long as they have Dwight Howard.

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

outside of lee, they traded scraps for him and i’d have to think that they could get another guy about as good as courtney lee for not very much money. the magic are in good shape.

heart of a champion, will of the warrior.

by cap'n hack on Jun 25, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's a shame.

I bet Courtney Lee really wanted to stay on the team and compete. He wanted to redeem himself for his missed game winning alley-oop in Game 2 of the Finals.

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vince

I don’t think he’ll be as effective as a healthy, in-shape Shaq.

Can Vince still draw a double team?

This is Kristin Kreuk, now zip it. - GTTM

by disguy on Jun 25, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't know about the double team

But I do know he sure can fumble a shot during the most important time in a playoff game!

by yobo on Jun 25, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tyreke story has been out for a LOOOOONG time

Not a big deal, he’s been open about it and he seems to be a good kid. But if he drops to 7….OOOOO MAN, still think he’s the #2 prospect and maybe becomes the #1 in this draft

by GoldenWarrior988 on Jun 25, 2009 2:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

if evans should end up in oaktown

and not get traded off, there’s potential for at least a couple of big lessons we’ll have to learn: what does all the scouting from a decent college resume really amount to—there’s a fair amount of it indicating he has ball-hog tendencies and has to have the ball to be effective—so a possible outcome is that it’s accurate, and he’s not good enough with the ball against nba defenders to be a strong starting guard. then comes the cliche lesson—be careful what you wish for. evans also declined coming in for interviews and workouts, so there’s another unknown factor with his personality—a young guard will have the ‘benefit’ of working with ellis and jackson.

by the.monk on Jun 25, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In much much unrelated news.

Michael Jackson has suffered cardiac arrest.

This is sad…he made Thriller man, THRILLER. Our thoughts and prayers go to MJ.

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by R Dizzle on Jun 25, 2009 2:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

crap...

tmz is already saying he died…

This is Kristin Kreuk, now zip it. - GTTM

by disguy on Jun 25, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ahh

I typed in a sad face but for some reason it didn’t show.

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

just to make things clear.

I didn’t mean it’s “fun making fun of someon”e like that.

I meant it as a “It’s all fun and games until someone pokes an eye out” type of thing.

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah..

This is sad. Rest in peace Michael.

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by R Dizzle on Jun 25, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it can be a heavy burden

becoming an object in the pop culture media grinder—a cardiac arrest is painful but not prolonged like the cancer farah fawcett had to endure.

by the.monk on Jun 25, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How is this

Going to affect what the warriors do with the 7th pick?

by 3Kings650 on Jun 25, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He

won’t be able to do the moonwalk.

So I don't have a signature well these words would do! Who knew that upgrades can have downgrades too!

by 24k state fan since 87 on Jun 25, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

At the Hive has some interesting possibilities for what the Suns could do with Ben Wallace.

Seems to be a lot of talk about trying to move Tyson Chandler again…I could have sworn they tried that in February. If the medical clearance didn’t go through then, why would it now?

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by R Dizzle on Jun 25, 2009 2:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Back to the topic...

I’m thinking it’s going to end up being Jordan Hill or Jonny Flynn assuming Stephen Curry ain’t there (which would be instant trade bait).

Best player available is what we’re going to do.

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by RayAlmeda on Jun 25, 2009 2:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What's a Pre-Party without Pree?

Two names now to keep an eye on in regards to Warrior possible deals:
Jennings
Clark

by pree on Jun 25, 2009 2:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

who’s after for jennings?

heart of a champion, will of the warrior.

by cap'n hack on Jun 25, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

agh, typo “who’s after jennings?” in terms of what teams would want to deal for him.

heart of a champion, will of the warrior.

by cap'n hack on Jun 25, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

INTERESTING. So, Pree, we’re far enough down the road w/ Phoenix in Amare talks that we may be willing to risk being stuck with a draftee we didn’t want?

by onlxn on Jun 25, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

replay of drafting BWright ???

by hardcore on Jun 25, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i heard

We were supposed to draft Al Thornton for Minnesota and do the J-Rich three-way with Charlotte to get Kevin Garnett, but since we drafted the wrong guy (Brandan Wright) Minny called off the trade.

There’s a bunch of theories about why we didn’t get KG.

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

but still

I wouldn’t mind getting stuck with Brandan Jennings. I wanted him on the Warriors in the first place.

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ricky Rubio is going to slip to us.

Alley-oops and crazy fastbreaks in Golden State again!

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 2:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think James Harden or Tyreke Evans will fall to us. Anybody but Hill.

Clippers1. Blake Griffin
Memphis2.Hasheem Thabeet
Thunder3.Ricky Rubio
Kings4. Stephen Curry
Minny5. Tyreke Evans/or James Harden
Minny6. Jonny Flynn
7.WARRIORS- James Harden/or Tyreke Evans
8.Knicks- Jordan Hill
9.Raptors- DeMar DeRozen
10.-Bucks Brandon Jennings

by Sinigang on Jun 25, 2009 2:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well if we're picking for the Suns

and if they want Jennings, then aww because I wanted Jennings on the Warriors.

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 3:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Draft countdown: The Warriors’ Stoudemire bubble, Hill’s jumper, and more [Talking Points]

  • Don Nelson wants Stoudemire or Bosh badly. Shoot, so do I!
  • Nelson has grudingly played him because Biedrins hustles and rebounds and plays a little defense, but the lack of any jumpshot means that Biedrins is always a borderline talent in Nelson’s eyes.
    Nellie’s a smart man.
  • But if there’s no Amare, and if, when it comes to it, Nelson can’t stomach Hill’s lack of offensive repetoire (and remember, it’s always about offense for Nelson)… then do the Warriors jump the rails on Ellis and take Stephen Curry or Brandon Jennings? "They do something like that, they’ll know they’ll hear from Monta," said one source.
    How about hearing he’s working on his game?
  • Wright could get moved for a late-first-rounder or a 3pt shooter
  • Monta’s probably not happy about Acie Law coming to the Dubs

by Atma Brother ONE on Jun 25, 2009 3:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

two things

if monta’s unhappy about acie law coming to town, he better get some thicker skin. acie law isn’t competing for a starting job anywhere right now.

i still can’t get over the problems with shipping out a productive center for a bosh/amare rental. if we are able to extend either of them, it’ll probably be for the max and neither is a max player. i just don’t like it.

heart of a champion, will of the warrior.

by cap'n hack on Jun 25, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

monta probably won't care about law

if he is just tell him he is a bench warmer and nothing else

by dubzfan on Jun 25, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wright could get moved for a late-first-rounder or a 3pt shooter

Late first rounder would be INSANE. Wright has played well in the league and is younger than a lot of these guys. Would he be any lower than fifth if he were in this draft?

by onlxn on Jun 25, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

Wright still has a ton of potential too.

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

5-10, right behind Hill (just messing w/ya)

by hardcore on Jun 25, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but he’s our drama queen.

Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

by fotd on Jun 25, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I miss my xbox.

I remember playing XBOX online was the perfect way to kill time whenever I had nothing else to do. I could play Call of Duty 4 online and the hours would pass by like minutes. I don’t know what to do until the draft starts. ahhhhh.

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 3:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hill or Curry

DraftExpress Live Blog

If Minnesota keeps the pick, it looks very likely that they will take Jonny Flynn with one of those picks, with the other pick likely being used on James Harden. Some people think that DeMar DeRozan could be a target, but that seems far-fetched. That would leave Golden State with an interesting dilemma at 7—take Jordan Hill or Stephen Curry? It seems like they would lean towards Hill, although this is a tough one to call.

by Atma Brother ONE on Jun 25, 2009 3:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Minnesota

Would that still be the case if Ricky Rubio is still available to them?

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting turn

I didn’t think Minny would take Flynn with one of their two high picks. Harden and Flynn ain’t bad by any stretch, but I figured they would take Curry.

So if all plays out…

Draft Curry = Keep Curry?
Draft Hill = Potential trade?

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

"It takes a special kind of anti-mojo for a team to miss the playoffs 14 out of 15 seasons. Like, say, the Warriors under Chris Cohan."

by kenntoe on Jun 25, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

anyone watching espn coverage?

Bucher just said phoenix reportedly trying to get Wright Biedrins Bellinelli and # 7 for Amare

JRich 23

by warriorsalltheway on Jun 25, 2009 3:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

maaaan

I don’t want to give up Belinelli!!!!

I seriously still have faith in him. He was doing good as our starting SG but then he had to go down with that damn injury. =[

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Holy crap.

You know how many former Warriors would be on the Suns then?? lol.

I think that would make Azubuike the last remaining Warrior from the We Believe team! lol.

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't trade Azubuike!!

We must preserve the last remaining artifact from the historic 2007 We Believe team!!!

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly, I'm going to say it and no one can stop me! F Azubuike...If it nets us Amare!

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

"It takes a special kind of anti-mojo for a team to miss the playoffs 14 out of 15 seasons. Like, say, the Warriors under Chris Cohan."

by kenntoe on Jun 25, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bucher

Just said that Wright and #7 could be a part of the Amar’e deal. Just remember where you read it first.

by pree on Jun 25, 2009 3:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

well look who’s back!

by hardcore on Jun 25, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ya, so what's new about that!

hey i just heard US beat Spain in soccer! :-O

;-)

by hardcore on Jun 25, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

a fantastic moment for US soccer. the center backs and tim howard put on a show for the ages, plus dempsey sealing it with that last goal was great. i’ve always been a big dempsey fan.

heart of a champion, will of the warrior.

by cap'n hack on Jun 25, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

dempsey ’s a better defender than rubio too …

by hardcore on Jun 25, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, i find it hard to believe that rubio is stopping anyone on the pitch. you’d probably play him as a forward moving center midfielder and let him create. on the court, however…

heart of a champion, will of the warrior.

by cap'n hack on Jun 25, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dempsey...

Me too. I don’t follow the sport that closely but I’ve liked that guy for a while now.

Now we have the honor of taking another beating from Brazil. Woohoo!! Seriously though, I think it’s pretty awesome that we made the finals. Good stuff.

Thing 2

by olympicmike on Jun 25, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

this ain’t the brazil of earlier this decade. spain is a significantly stronger side than brazil is now. if the US plays that same scrappy, hard working aggressive style they played in the first half (and sporadically in the second), they can win that game. brazil does play a super weird style, though. some sort of modified 4-2-3-1 with robinho acting more as a combo striker/winger. it’ll be an interesting match.

heart of a champion, will of the warrior.

by cap'n hack on Jun 25, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

jeez you two, what monster have I unleashed upon GSoM?! ;-P

by hardcore on Jun 25, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

you should have known that someone would pounce on the opportunity to talk soccer if brought up.

heart of a champion, will of the warrior.

by cap'n hack on Jun 25, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

this ain’t the brazil of earlier this decade. spain is a significantly stronger side than brazil is now.

That’s true, but it would still a pretty big upset, and I feel like two big upsets in a row might be a bit much to ask as a fan. Trust me, I’ll be cheering them on, I’m just not getting my hopes up.

Thing 2

by olympicmike on Jun 25, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, i doubt it too, but the upset of spain would be the bigger shock of the two if this happens. there’s a shot they could do it, but i won’t call it likely.

heart of a champion, will of the warrior.

by cap'n hack on Jun 25, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

"It takes a special kind of anti-mojo for a team to miss the playoffs 14 out of 15 seasons. Like, say, the Warriors under Chris Cohan."

by kenntoe on Jun 25, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather trade

AB, B-Wright, Belinelli + whatever else for Amare.

Keep the pick if Curry is there. If Hill is there, take him and package him and take Wright out.

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

"It takes a special kind of anti-mojo for a team to miss the playoffs 14 out of 15 seasons. Like, say, the Warriors under Chris Cohan."

by kenntoe on Jun 25, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

they said we have been talking with them for the last two weeks! personally i want andris to stay and i don’t want amare

by dubzfan on Jun 25, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's slip Kerr a roofie and a cocktail to make this steal happen.

On second thought, maybe Kerr would do it sober.

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

"It takes a special kind of anti-mojo for a team to miss the playoffs 14 out of 15 seasons. Like, say, the Warriors under Chris Cohan."

by kenntoe on Jun 25, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bright Side of the Sun

They don’t seem to think trading Amare for a Biedrins package is all that bright. I don’t blame them.

Draft / Trade Day Open Thread [Bright Side of the Sun]

by Atma Brother ONE on Jun 25, 2009 3:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

what a scare

I thought you were talking about the actual Suns management not wanting Biedrins anymore, but you’re just talking about people on a blog site.

Ahh so there’s still a chance we finally get a scoring big man!!

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

From TrueHoop Twitter Feed

http://twitter.com/TrueHoop/status/2333476390

Brandon Jennings is not coming to the draft. Agent says they are not certain of his draft position.

Well it looks like the people’s choice doesn’t have a promise from the Dubs at #7.

by Atma Brother ONE on Jun 25, 2009 3:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

poor jennings

he doesn’t want to be embarrassed by being the only guy in the green room. lol i bet he had his suit ready and everything and now he has to back out because he’s scared of being embarrassed. haah.

it would be a good thing if he gets drafted in the top 10, though.

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

he will regret this

this is a big part in his life. i would not care if i am the last one there. he should be there with his family

by dubzfan on Jun 25, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

It’s not a popularity contest to see who in the green room gets drafted before each other. Jameer Nelson and Rashard Lewis were last in their drafts yet they became all-stars and competed in the Finals.

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what he's doing
According to a statement from agent Bill Duffy: “Because we do not have a strong grasp of Brandon’s draft position, I’ve advised that he and his family enjoy this day in a more private setting with the people he loves the most. Brandon Jennings will have a very illustrious career in the NBA, and at the end of the day, that is all that is important.”

 via Andy Katz on ESPN.com

by Atma Brother ONE on Jun 25, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Been saying it for weeks. Jennings was no longer (seriously) on their radar.

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

"It takes a special kind of anti-mojo for a team to miss the playoffs 14 out of 15 seasons. Like, say, the Warriors under Chris Cohan."

by kenntoe on Jun 25, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

KOBE GOT TRADED!

Kobe got traded to the Bulls!!! WTF!!

For Ben Gordon, Tyrus Thomas, Chicago’s first round pick, Joakim Noah. The Lakers have to add in some fillers, though.

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 3:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

come on, man. don’t start posting phony stories.

heart of a champion, will of the warrior.

by cap'n hack on Jun 25, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

Well it was getting kind of hectic here with all the trades, I thought i’d add something in. lol.

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know this is an open thread...

but I think this is exactly what Atma was talking about with the whole signal-to-noise-ratio thing.

Thing 2

by olympicmike on Jun 25, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was just messing wit you, but it does sound a little more serious than I intended it too now that I read it back. Have fun, it’s an open thread. Just don’t try to trick me again. ; )

Thing 2

by olympicmike on Jun 25, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think open threads are going to be inherently “noisy”, but I’m interested in hearing people’s ideas on how to improve them if they need improving.

Open threads are about raw emotion, live action, etc. I don’t expect them to be as thoughtful and detailed as the comments in articles, FanPosts, and FanShots- but again that’s just my thinking.

by Atma Brother ONE on Jun 25, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree completely...

I think an open thread, by nature, is going to be a lot of shooting from the hip. I really don’t mind that at all. In fact there are a good amount of GSoMers who come here specifically to live chat with other Warriors fans during the game.

Thing 2

by olympicmike on Jun 25, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow so he's really gone?

damn, it’s like we all never appreciated him during his last years. we all just made parodys of him.

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 3:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't know if this was mentioned... but here's the TRADE OFFER

ESPN’s Draft Show mentioned (I think it was Ric Bucher) that the trade scenario as it stands is:

AMARE

for

A. Biedrins
M. Belinelli
B. Wright

  • 7th overall pick (possibility to be included)

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by RayAlmeda on Jun 25, 2009 3:31 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

wow seriously

the whole world feels different now that Michael Jackson is dead.

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 3:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

not everyone

Farrah Fawcett is a different story tho …

and before you say it AB1, I know that’s also harsh

by hardcore on Jun 25, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m a big Michael Jackson fan, so please go easy on Michael today.

by Atma Brother ONE on Jun 25, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

as long as you go easy on Farrah, you’ve got a deal ;-)

by hardcore on Jun 25, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

the man gave us thriller. he’s earned that much from us.

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by cap'n hack on Jun 25, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know...

What a crazy world….

by StephenJaaackson! on Jun 25, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we can get Amare Stoudemire

“I’m starting to like this new guy Larry Riley”.

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 3:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

if we get amare

he better sign an extension!

by dubzfan on Jun 25, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

duh!

He’d love playing here I bet. It’s not like Nellie won’t give him playing time or anything.

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

he’ll want max money and he isn’t that good.

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by cap'n hack on Jun 25, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

less than ten mil. amare could command close to twice that in free agency. that would be way more than we should pay him.

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by cap'n hack on Jun 25, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

we will also lose marco and brandan this way so that is a little bit more money

looks like maggette’s contract for the first time has come back to bite us

by dubzfan on Jun 25, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If this goes down

That would be $20 million of salary shed for 2010 in 24 hours. That puts them down to like $35 mill committed to 2010/11 assuming the pick up AR’s option.

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by bloodsweatndonuts on Jun 25, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

would you be up for committing almost all of that $20M to amare? that’s too rich for my blood. i think he might be a little overpaid now when he’s making about $16M, so i definitely don’t want to give him a raise on top of that.

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by cap'n hack on Jun 25, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: would you be up for committing almost all of that $20M to amare

No way. He’s too injury prone.

But if this team with Monta, AR, Amare, Maggette, Buike, Morrow, Turiaf, etc can make an exciting run and prove last year was due to some extraordinary circumstances, then maybe they could lure someone better. Who? I don’t want to get that far ahead.

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by bloodsweatndonuts on Jun 25, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, $16M off the books next year certainly makes us interesting players in 2010. we’ll see how it plays out, but i’d be worried that we’d rush to give STAT a max deal and come out looking foolish.

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by cap'n hack on Jun 25, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully he understands that we need that money to sign other players so we can compete for a championship.

haha sike, players only care about the money nowadays. except for Tim Duncan and Dirk who stated they’ll take a cut so their teams can have money to build a better supporting cast.

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not to put down Michael

But I felt way worse losing Jason Richardson than Michael. Both guys are awesome, though.

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 3:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Chad Ford's Update on the Dubs
The Warriors were talking to the Suns about a deal with Amare Stoudemire that would have them giving up the No. 7. If they keep it, they probably take Jordan Hill. But James Johnson is a wild card and Curry still a possibility.

via ESPN.com

Oh man here comes another KG to the Warriors screw up where the Dubs take a guy the Suns don’t want as part of a deal for Amare a few weeks down the line.

Al Thornton… Al Thornton… Al Thornton…

by Atma Brother ONE on Jun 25, 2009 3:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

We better get it right this time!

Hopefully Larry Riley won’t let us down.

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh man.

PG: Baron Davis
SG: Stephen Jackson
SF: Al Harrington
PF: Kevin Garnett
C: Andris Biedrins

or

PG: Baron Davis
SG: Monta Ellis
SF: Stephen Jackson
PF: Al Harrington
C: Kevin Garnett

ahhh, top seed in the West.

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Oh man here comes another KG to the Warriors screw up

They don’t have Mullin to screw it up. That was the rumor right? That he and Higgins got their wires crossed and Charlotte picked the wrong (Wright) player?

Nelson is not Mullin as we all know.

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by bloodsweatndonuts on Jun 25, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m hesitatant to give up the best center we’ve had in years for 1 year of Amar’e. I would probable still do it but swap picks with the suns #7 for #14.

by warriOs on Jun 25, 2009 3:54 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Interesting

A source close to the situation has informed HOOPSWORLD that the Phoenix Suns are now in hot pursuit of Brandon Jennings. The word is the Suns will try to trade up to at least the sixth pick, with Amar’e Stoudemire as the likely bait, as the Golden State Warriors are reportedly interested in taking Jennings at seven so they can trade him.

HOOPSWORLD Link

by pree on Jun 25, 2009 3:54 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

So it would be Amare Stoudemire for Andris Biedrins, Brandan Wright, Marco Belinelli, and Brandon Jennings?

Whew, even for a pro-Amare trade man such as myself, that seems very steep.

by Atma Brother ONE on Jun 25, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

way too much..

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by disguy on Jun 25, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah I know.

That’s a whole lot. That’s like our whole future right there and a potential all-star in Brandon Jennings. If we do that trade it could make us look like fools in a couple years.

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah it would

amare gone in one year while wright, marco and andris all playing big minutes for a division rival.not to mention jennings being the replacement for nash

by dubzfan on Jun 25, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have not heard Belinelli's name involved

I heard he was on his way East of the Mississippi. Two teams, but I haven’t been chasing that.

by pree on Jun 25, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

WHAT?!

But that’s a blockbuster trade. Bigger than Vince to the Magic or Shaq to the Cavs.

(just kidding)

by Atma Brother ONE on Jun 25, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They'd try to make sure Amare will stay first and how about

Amare for Beans, Wright and Jennings
Belinelli showed some promise before the ankle injury and could potentially play a little point

by T-Money on Jun 25, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

trading with the suns would be a foolish move for the wolves. they already have jefferson signed long term for reasonable money and would either have to give him up to overpay amare or lose kevin love in that deal. the wolves would do better to just hang on to what they have and ignore phone calls from phoenix.

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by cap'n hack on Jun 25, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn

With Minnesota having the 5th and 6th pick I hope they don’t deal with the Suns.

I think the Warriors 7th pick is one of the only things that have the Suns really wanting to trade with us. DRAFT JENNINGS!!!!!

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 3:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

hopfully if there that hot on BJ

we dont have to give up Beans.

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And I wish that I was there.

by qin on Jun 25, 2009 3:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

nah

That’s what i’m hoping for but I don’t think they’ll trade away Shaq/Amare and not want a young big man in return.

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It needs to be said.

R.I.P Michael Jackson.

by Aemoc on Jun 25, 2009 4:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Very sad indeed.

by Atma Brother ONE on Jun 25, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The thing that kills me...

Is that he’s legitimately the most prolific performer of our time. No doubt about it whatsoever.

by Aemoc on Jun 25, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude was a genius musician and dancer.

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by bloodsweatndonuts on Jun 25, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Welcome back...

I like the new name.

Thing 2

by olympicmike on Jun 25, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we trade Andris, do you think we'd use Amare at center at all?

Not ful time, but everyonce in awhile? I don’t think he’d like that too much, I know i wouldn’t

by 123707THIZZ on Jun 25, 2009 4:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

we’d have to. who else besides turiaf could? and an amare/randolph frontline looks a lot better than a turiaf/amare front line to me.

heart of a champion, will of the warrior.

by cap'n hack on Jun 25, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I feel like we're all getting played.

The Warriors/Suns talk is probably just a tease, lol.

DON’T BREAK MY HEART!!!

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 4:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow...

That is STEEP for Amare

“Not done yet”

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by R Dizzle on Jun 25, 2009 4:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Who would you peel off the deal to make it fair?

The #7 or Wright? I can’t think that people are that into Belinelli . . .

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by bloodsweatndonuts on Jun 25, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

True

I’m not high on Marco either, but tossing him in for just ONE player is too much. If we can pull someone else in, I’m game.

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by R Dizzle on Jun 25, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm actually still into Belinelli

I’m not sure if i’d keep him over Wright or the 7th though.

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

plus his three point shooting has a rating of 87 on NBA 2k9.

Kelenna Azubuike’s three’s are 90.
Anthony Morrow’s three’s are like 93.

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it is def steep

but im willing to do whatever it takes short of randolph and ellis to get amare.

he is a proven superstar and he will bring exactly what nellie needs to run the ultimate small ball lineup!

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by LostHawkSJSU on Jun 25, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha!!

They spelled Brandan Wright’s name wrong. I love it when professional people do that for some reason.

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 4:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ric Bucher just re-confirmed that trade scenario

Apparently the 7th pick is the one that is the piece that is most being discussed

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by RayAlmeda on Jun 25, 2009 4:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah

That’s why I don’t want Minnesota dealing there 6th pick to Phoenix, or else Amare going to the Warriors will be unlikely unless we give up other players.

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Regarding the Amare trade that is being reported, it seems like the Warriors are balking at including the #7 pick. I guess we’ll see what happens when that pick comes up. The Suns would sure like to get Curry if he’s available.

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

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by kenntoe on Jun 25, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

barnes or jrich!

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by LostHawkSJSU on Jun 25, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

barnes is a free agent

how bout maggette for j rich.. i thibk the contracts fit

by dubzfan on Jun 25, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

no chance

suns are tryin to shed contracts. not gain a terrible one.

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by LostHawkSJSU on Jun 25, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Do you remember Baron Davis doing that finger thing during the Warriors playoff series against the Mavs?

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahaha

makes me think of the chappelle skit…. BYAHHH…..BYAAAAHHH!

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by LostHawkSJSU on Jun 25, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

that had to be said

This is Kristin Kreuk, now zip it. - GTTM

by disguy on Jun 25, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah i have no life today!!!

lol.

I barely go on GSoM but today seems like the day to do so.

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

popular?

lol this isn’t high school.

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

you sure? feels like it sometimes

by hardcore on Jun 25, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ohh

who’s the nerd on this site?

the jock?

etc.

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha! don’t get me started … I’d lose the two people on this site who don’t already hate me!

by hardcore on Jun 25, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL - camera shot of Clippers

and no one saying ANYthing! must be nice to have such an anti-climactic draft, eh?

by hardcore on Jun 25, 2009 4:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

After playing 6 or so OT, it must've gotten his face stuck.

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by Zorgon on Jun 25, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who was point gaurd on Oklahoma?

Austin something i think? Whats the deal with him, I thought he was pretty solid

by 123707THIZZ on Jun 25, 2009 4:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Austin Johnson

He’s not that good. Mostly a scorer.

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by Zorgon on Jun 25, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

whoa! hey AB1

 Zorgon AND pree – the golden days have returned to GSoM ! ! !

by hardcore on Jun 25, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah! Woooo!

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by Zorgon on Jun 25, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Draft Day is like the Annual GSoM Reunion!

by Atma Brother ONE on Jun 25, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Include Kelenna

He may be in the deal instead of Wright

by pree on Jun 25, 2009 4:19 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

sounds like the suns

really like the ‘we believe’ team

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by LostHawkSJSU on Jun 25, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

that would be better

i love azubuike but players like him are easier to find

by AJC3317 on Jun 25, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

…although Nellie seems more willing to play ’Buike than Wright, so, actually, not sure.

by onlxn on Jun 25, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

i forget sometimes i have to think as nellie rather than a rational coach

by AJC3317 on Jun 25, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

PLEASE NO

He’s the only remaining sexy guy on our team. It used to be Matt Barnes but once he left all the girls started to dig Kelenna and his biceps.

If we lose Kelenna then who would we have left to drool over?

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

TMNT?! where have YOU been?

by hardcore on Jun 25, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maggette

does look a bit like one?

by WYK on Jun 25, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

somewhat

But his jaw’s and cheeks don’t match with the Ninja Turtles. Harrington on the other hand was dead on.

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's also hard to find someone with a name as nice as Azubuike's too.

You might not know it, but having a great name can help bring relevance too.

by Precise Films Productions on Jun 25, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blazers trade

Kings and Blazers trade 2nd round picks (ESPN)

Kings get Sergio Rodriguez and cash

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by R Dizzle on Jun 25, 2009 4:19 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Clever little trade for the Kings, actually.

by onlxn on Jun 25, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

REALGM

07:07 PM: RUMOR: The Warriors and Suns are discussing a trade in which Amare Stoudemire would go to Golden State for Andris Biedrins, Brandan Wright and Marco Belinelli, along with possibly the 7th overall pick, according to ESPN’s Ric Bucher.

F**K REFS

by faetati on Jun 25, 2009 4:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That trade scenario SUCKS

I would rather have Biedrins than Amare for one season straight up. Throwing in Wright, Marco and the 7th pick is way to stepp a price to pay for an OVERRATED superstar. PLEASE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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by warriorsfiend on Jun 25, 2009 4:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

please

explain how amare is overrated?

i think the person that’s way overrated on here is andris.

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by LostHawkSJSU on Jun 25, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

no defense whatsoever. it’s worse than biedrins’ d.

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by cap'n hack on Jun 25, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

amare never plays defense

biedrins is a way better rebounder, amare is not a team player, and him and ellis fighting for shots is a bad mixture unless ellis becomes a tony parker type guy

by dubzfan on Jun 25, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

only do it if

amare agrees to extend. i think everyone’s in agreement with that

by AJC3317 on Jun 25, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

only if agrees to extend

even i agree to that

30 Y 197 cm 115 kg 0 IQ

by Lat We N Trash on Jun 25, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

agh, what a day to be without espn… moving sucks. at least i still have the internet.

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by cap'n hack on Jun 25, 2009 4:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Pick WILL be included

Suns won’t do the deal without the pick

Amar’e + something for AB, Belinelli, Buike, #7

the “something” will probably be Tucker

by pree on Jun 25, 2009 4:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That's pretty steep

Any idea when that could go down?

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by R Dizzle on Jun 25, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And it seems like this is probably gonna happen?

by onlxn on Jun 25, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs