We Can Get Baron Davis Back for Cheap!

by townlyfe on Jun 26, 2009 10:51 PM PDT Comment 79 comments

I know everyone in the bay area loved BD, I did too. Well we could have baron back if we wanted to but it wouldn't come cheap.

Literally with the new contract, we could have got him for a lot less before. And figuritively with the mind set because he probably wont want to come back to a team that really didnt see him to be that valueable although he did so much for the warriors.

But what if i told you that we could get someone with :

Great Defense

Great Ball Handling

Good I.Q. / Great Decision making

Good Perimiter Shooter

Good Team mate

with Anthony Morrow's Salary!

well there is a guy from Oklahoma State Univ. by the name of Byron Eaton. (Mc Donalds HS All American) He is a terrific player, and i watch and follow a lot of players. He could definetly be the next BD. the only differences are he has much better shot selection, and he is 5'11 instead of 6'3. Last year was his senior season. He averaged about 14 points and 6 ast last year which is good but brought a lot more to the game than what his stats show. And he specializes in DEFENSE!!!! (has OSU's steals record) Im surprised he was not drafted, and kind of happy because now we can go sign him. Im sure most of you know a good player when you see it.

We could invite him to play for us in the summer, I gaurantee if he did the dubs would not let him walk. you dont have to take my word, if you can find some video from this year go check him out.

Poll

What Should The W's Do?

C.J. watson is the answer

26 votes

I want Baron back no matter the cost!

47 votes

Keep the gaurds we have and see how it turns out

122 votes

Get rid of all p.g.'s but Monte & Curry... but try eaton in summer

85 votes

280 votes | Poll has closed

This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!

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I like C.J. too, what happend to him?

by townlyfe on Jun 26, 2009 10:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

CJ is a FA and wont be back due to soo many gurads

GSW, SFG, SF49ers #1

by warriors8ymail on Jun 26, 2009 10:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

meh

I wouldn’t rule it out yet. The Law trade makes it a whole lot less likely, but I wouldn’t rule it out.

Thing A

"no homo"

by sam23 on Jun 26, 2009 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

So many guards?

Outside of Monta and Jack:

Claxton will probably be bought out/ waived/ kept on ice until the trading deadline.

If Marcus Williams couldn’t get any burn what makes you think Acie Law will get any? He most definitely will be real friendly with his tailor because the only thing he’ll be rockin on gamedays are Alfani.

Curry will be lucky to see significant time. I just really don’t see him contributing much his rookie year IF HE STAYS.

We definitely should resign Watson. Something in the ballpark of 2 years $4.5 million should suit him well.

by phiLthyphiL on Jun 27, 2009 1:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Curry and playing time

I’m really not sure why people think Don Nelson isn’t going to play Curry very much. Both Nelson and Riley have made it clear that they would be surprised if Curry wasn’t playing significant minutes by at least January. Curry isn’t some high-potential freshman who we aren’t going to play for three years. He played 3 years of college ball, and my bet is that he starts for us very early in the season.

by randolphforpresident on Jun 27, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

but idk about BDavis

I propose this trade.

Claxton & Maggette for Baron Davis
Yea

Speedy = $5 mil
Maggette= $50mil
Davis = $60 mil I think????

GSW, SFG, SF49ers #1

by warriors8ymail on Jun 26, 2009 10:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I don't BELIEVE in Baron

He’s not himself anymore he wants to be a film producer, so good for him. The Bdiddy days are over and at his age with his history he is “damaged goods”; the Clips being foolish enough to overpay him.

I do think Maggette should be traded but I have not heard of any interest from other teams, especially with Hedo now available.

by djnoname on Jun 26, 2009 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Claxton will bring us a REAL player, his expiring contract 80% covered by insurance is GOLDEN!!!!!

NO WAY would I trade claxton for baron!!!!!!

by warriorbum on Jun 27, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

baron days are over!! get over it were a young run and gun team lets keep it that way... we need beast inside who can help randolph rebound and were good

by Fi7ipin0ch3f on Jun 26, 2009 11:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

yea, i would do that. I like maggs but if we still have azibuike then i dont mind letting him go only because of his contract though

by townlyfe on Jun 26, 2009 11:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

acie law and speedy are just a waste of space. they will never get off the bench. we should just get rid of them

by townlyfe on Jun 26, 2009 11:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Those two acquisitions are all about Cap space for next year....

It's about heart, It's about fight, It's about being a Warrior!

by BritWarriorGSW on Jun 27, 2009 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Acie Law has never gotten the chance to prove him self. maybe the run N gun Fastbreak is the style of play he will shine in.

IN nba 2k9 he is a Sweet 3 pt. shooter. Cant miss.

GSW, SFG, SF49ers #1

by warriors8ymail on Jun 26, 2009 11:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

So, like

What the heck happened to this site?

Atma Bro, didn’t you insinuate that after the draft this kind of nonsense would be dealt with?

And BloodSweatnDonuts, man … are you happy now? Low hanging fruit galore!!!

Thing 1

by Sleepy Freud on Jun 26, 2009 11:11 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

+1

this is even worse than post-draft last year. I’m all for a growing GSoM community, but this is pretty ridiculous. At one point earlier today 2 of the 5 most recent fanposts were both title KEEP STEPHEN CURRY!!!!!! Well, one was actually titled KEEP CURRY! so I’m sure it provided a much different but similarly well thought out and well written perspective.

Thing A

"no homo"

by sam23 on Jun 26, 2009 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

There does seem to be a lot of new people..

by 123707THIZZ on Jun 26, 2009 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

and I really don’t have a problem with that…..its just that the signal to noise ratio is suffering greatly

Thing A

"no homo"

by sam23 on Jun 26, 2009 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Seriously...

I feel like a lot of the regulars are sitting it out a bit until things quiet down.

Thing 2

by olympicmike on Jun 27, 2009 1:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

peeking with disgust here

(not that i have anything intelligent to add)

my code name is "kelenna bahongpuki"

by VonteegoCummings on Jun 27, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

that, and most of the new folks aren’t writing anything interesting.

Prospective parent of new pick, Zack Wheeler. Projectable Righty stolen from the braves. Of course, I stalk my son's myspace: http://www.myspace.com/zackwheelerbaseball

"Obviously I’m not doing things like going toe-to-toe with a ninja. Find me a ninja, for one."--Brian Wilson

by haverecords on Jun 27, 2009 1:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

You know how you can flag a fanpost

as spam, troll, or inappropriate? Perhaps they need to add another option called “This just sucks”.

by IQofaWarrior on Jun 26, 2009 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

I agree, its just asking to be abused, but I agree

Thing A

"no homo"

by sam23 on Jun 27, 2009 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

people come and go ...

i was posting here rather frequently before SB changed the layout. We’re all Warrior fans so instead of picking on the new fans posting – or old guys returning, lets embrace all the Warrior love.

The bigger the better. More people equals more ideas. Also, more advertising dollars, that will help keep this site vibrant.

my 2 cents.

" Sleepy Floyd is Superman!!!"

by CoachBarry on Jun 27, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agree in theory.

But not if “more people” means more kids (or grownup kids) who like to spam the board with unreadable “laundry-list” diaries and drop homophobic insults at respected posters who dare to challenge their half-baked “opinions.”

I wonder if there couldn’t be a “sandbox” forum for these types where they could read and participate in the site without getting sand and bubblegum and pee in areas grownups like to hang out in.

Thing 1

by Sleepy Freud on Jun 27, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hey Sleepy...

Remember when a post was bad we’d go off topic and talk about great Sandwich spots in the Bay Area? Man, if you guys are ever in my part of town, swing by the Athenian Grill. They’re gyro’s are to die for! I never get bloated and the portions are just right!

Check it out GSoMers!
http://www.atheniangrill.net/

Beyond Golden State of Design... and than some!
http://www.tonypsd.blogspot.com/

by Tony.psd on Jun 27, 2009 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Haha

Here were the first three that popped into my head:

• Cuban sanwdwich (roast pork, ham, mustard, pickle, cheese, grilled) at Nuevo Frutilandia on 24th and Folsom in SF
• Chicken shawerma at Truly Med on 16th (or the one on Haight)
• Burrito al pastor at Taqueria Cancun on Valencia

Do burritos and shawerma count as sandwiches?

Thing 1

by Sleepy Freud on Jun 27, 2009 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

My favorite is the Cuban sandwhich!!

"Where's the beef?"

by MMunoz33 on Jun 28, 2009 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mmm...

Just had a Cuban sandwich today for the first time. Very good stuff.

Thing 2

by olympicmike on Jun 29, 2009 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I love Athenian Grill, Gyros and great burgers too....

by warriorbum on Jun 27, 2009 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

My favorite spot Roxie Deli

1901 San Jose Ave
(between Havelock St & Santa Ynez Ave) in SF the Turkjey club on dutch Crunch is DELICIOUSNESS

It's all about the killer cross-over baby!

by warriorsfiend on Jun 30, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Sandwich

Link

Reduce your carbon footprint, commit suicide.

by bloodsweatndonuts on Jun 27, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Aye Tony!

Thanks for accepting that friend request on Xbox live

It is the shoes!!!

by LighTz707OuT on Jun 27, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL!

What are we gonna play?! Just got DC Universe vs. Mortal Kombat as an early Birthday Gift!

Beyond Golden State of Design... and than some!
http://www.tonypsd.blogspot.com/

by Tony.psd on Jun 27, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

You got NBA 2k9

or Call of Duty

It is the shoes!!!

by LighTz707OuT on Jun 27, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: are you happy now? Low hanging fruit galore!!!

Yah, ecstatic. Hopefully everyone will step it up a notch and start really dropping the hammer on incorrect punctuation.

I only know one punctuation joke: What do Ronald Regan and a typewriter have in common?

Reduce your carbon footprint, commit suicide.

by bloodsweatndonuts on Jun 27, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dude

You really think it’s about spelling and punctuation? Did you miss the self-professed “future sportswriter” who dropped like ten completely incoherent diaries on the site in the last couple days (a couple of them since deleted) and told Kenntoe he "takes it up the “a**” for having the gall to challenge one of his assertions? You really think that adds anything?

There’s “low-hanging fruit” and then there’s rotten fruit on the ground that should just be pitched.

Thing 1

by Sleepy Freud on Jun 27, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was referring to my original "low-hanging fruit" comment which was about the silliness of nit-picking people's spelling when it has nothing to do with the actual idea of the post . . .

My point about spelling and grammar can be summed up as “We’ve got bigger fish to fry” so why waste your time nit-picking at petty details? Punctuation seems to be next in the line of “things to get on people about that have no bearing on the overall quality of content or discourse on this site”. Sorry if my sarcasm was too veiled.

There seems to have been an influx of new accounts beginning on 6/24/09 and those people started posting with a vengeance. That’s the source of a lot of noise. Doesn’t this happen every summer? They just need to be diligent in deleting spam-posts and we, as a community, need to be diligent in ignoring or dealing with the comments.

There also seems to be a growing hostility towards trying to have a logical discussion. Almost like “who the hell are you to try and question my opinion” regardless of whether or not is completely contrary to evidence or logic. That started to gain momentum a few weeks ago and I’ve watched it happen on a few different occasions between newish posters and some of the more thoughtful regulars. I predict that it will get worse in that regard before it gets better.

Reduce your carbon footprint, commit suicide.

by bloodsweatndonuts on Jun 27, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bingo!!!

There also seems to be a growing hostility towards trying to have a logical discussion. Almost like "who the hell are you to try and question my opinion" regardless of whether or not is completely contrary to evidence or logic. That started to gain momentum a few weeks ago and I’ve watched it happen on a few different occasions between newish posters and some of the more thoughtful regulars. I predict that it will get worse in that regard before it gets better.

This is my pet peeve around here. I get tired (and a little sad) reading some of these guys get hurt feelings and making personal attacks, because they aren’t used to having their assertions challenged. It’s nothing personal. We are all trying to refine our “opinions” here.

Thing 2

by olympicmike on Jun 27, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

A Lame Theory of Mine

It may be the first important generational divide between us Gen X and Gen Y people and the current generation of teens. Brash audacity is fine by me as long as it has it drives home a solid point or has a clever spin to it.

I think the new popular wave is “Brash Audacity A La Carte”.

We’ll see what happens, I may be completely off base. I have noticed it more with comedy. Regardless, I try not to moralize it. Just because I like logical arguments and clever humor doesn’t mean I’m right and they’re wrong, it may just mean I’m getting old and need to adapt to the new rules of engagement.

Reduce your carbon footprint, commit suicide.

by bloodsweatndonuts on Jun 27, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just because I like logical arguments and clever humor doesn’t mean I’m right and they’re wrong, it may just mean I’m getting old and need to adapt to the new rules of engagement.

Please don’t. If you traded in your clever humor for the newer model of what’s funny I think I’d be left in the dust. : )

Thing 2

by olympicmike on Jun 27, 2009 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

What?

We already have like 6 PG’s on the roster now, why do we need another one?

Gerald Madkins.

by gorrillas on Jun 26, 2009 11:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

We have zero...

Maybe 1/4 of one with CJ Watson.

Just because Curry makes a few good passes in college doesn’t make him a point guard. Monta still isn’t and will never be PG.

by phiLthyphiL on Jun 27, 2009 1:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Monta still isn't and will never be PG.

Why, because you think he won’t? Don Nelson believes that Monta can be a point guard and if I had to choose sides I would put money that Don Nelson is a better judge of talent than any of us. So if you can prove that Monta can’t become a scoring point, I would love to hear it.

by tandy on Jun 27, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

FYI

I know you are all excited and shit about posting, but it’s Monta, not Monte..check your vote box son

by highflya on Jun 26, 2009 11:33 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

PG GLUT!

Next year a glut at the PF position.

"At the end of the day, you've just got to put the ball in the hole."

by SPREEE4THREEE on Jun 26, 2009 11:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

What we need is...

the “Birdman”! The guy is a free agent this offseason and he would be a huge pickup for us defensively and if we were to make the trade for amare, he could help out defensively at center off the bench.

by duballers23 on Jun 26, 2009 11:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Oh god.

Not Birdman, he is just super obnoxious!

Gerald Madkins.

by gorrillas on Jun 26, 2009 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm down...

Birdman is nuts ha ha. The warriors would be full of players that are fun to watch…but not great.

Actually, homeboy does have a knack for blocking shots. Go for it

by jimmycaps on Jun 27, 2009 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m pretty sure Birdman has mentioned that for personal reasons, he would like to stay in Denver if the team would want him. So we’re not getting him anytime soon.

by belilaugh on Jun 27, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

yea invite him to summer who cares

by HoLdEmUP on Jun 26, 2009 11:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

+1

I'm gametime_gsw, and I approve this message.

by gametime_gsw on Jun 26, 2009 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

eaton is the only fat pg ive ever seen

I'm gametime_gsw, and I approve this message.

by gametime_gsw on Jun 26, 2009 11:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Ive never heard of this guy,show me a highlight video.

Its time for a change...

by RunNdGun on Jun 26, 2009 11:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

5'11

Ty Lawson is better than him and he’s way too short. Unless he’s Allen Iverson or Chris Paul, he won’t be a game changer.

by Jayd92009 on Jun 27, 2009 1:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

yea i liked ty lawson but he was drafted. and lawson is the same size, but he has a lot more D than lawson. He wouldn’t really affect the payroll, and I wouldn’t expect him to get many minutes for now. He would just be a extra option because knowing we are going against the best pg’s night in night out, it wouldn’t hurt.

by townlyfe on Jun 28, 2009 1:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

what i don't understand is,,

why does your title say: We Can Get Baron Davis Back for Cheap!
and your first sentence is I know everyone in the bay area loved BD, I did too. Well we could have baron back if we wanted to but it wouldn’t come cheap.

by dez4o8 on Jun 27, 2009 4:12 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

i think we all need to move on from Baron Davis. Of course he did so many things for us but when its all said and done, hes gone. Its a business and we just gotta move foward with Monta. Shoulda, Coulda, Woulda. aha

by Spee-D on Jun 27, 2009 9:53 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Baron Davis is not coming back. i know and you know it. ive moved on and so have the warriors. he was great with the warriors but its time to move forward.

by ADZ72589 on Jun 27, 2009 10:04 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs

You said it perfect

Oakland Raiders Fan
Golden State Warriors Fan
San Francisco Giants Fan
San Jose Sharks Fan
MMA Fan
USC Trojan Fan

by i love sports101 on Jun 27, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Exactly

rec’d

It is the shoes!!!

by LighTz707OuT on Jun 27, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I should design a shirt of your quote

Beyond Golden State of Design... and than some!
http://www.tonypsd.blogspot.com/

by Tony.psd on Jun 27, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

What quote

the “It is the shoes” quote?

It is the shoes!!!

by LighTz707OuT on Jun 27, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Baron:

You guys act like baron has been gone forever, It’s been one year? heck yes bring him back, we could use him:

by ForestGrump on Jun 27, 2009 10:07 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I wonder when these Baron posts will stop.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 27, 2009 3:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

ITS JUST A BLOG

Sometimes yall take things too far. Its a blog, its ment to post ideas. The only reason i put that as the title was so you could read it. and its not just random it make some kinda of sense if you payed attention. Im saying we probably cant get Baron back because of the situations that took place but there is a really good player that plays like him still available.(that i think we need) Now so what i misspelled so things, you got the point. This isnt a newspaper.

now back to basketball talk, thankyou to those who did whether the agreed or not.
the thing i do agree with is that we do have too many gaurds, at the PG none can really defend all that well. so aside from “monta” and curry, we dont need the rest really. but i did like C.J. too.

by townlyfe on Jun 27, 2009 3:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Baron

He is not coming back, all Baron dreamers wake up. if he were 4 years younger bring on the discussion. I love Baron as much as everyone for what he gave us. But it’s over and done

by BeReal on Jun 28, 2009 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL... read it out loud...

“thankyou to those who did whether the agreed or not”

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Yea its not a newpaper but it doesn’t sound right… kinda tarnishes your point…

Beyond Golden State of Design... and than some!
http://www.tonypsd.blogspot.com/

by Tony.psd on Jun 27, 2009 5:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Confusing huh?

…Sad to say, people actually do look at punctuation, if the writings bad, I just move on. Think about it, yup its a blog (is it?!) but I prefer quality writing with great posted ideas vs. someone typing stuff up and not proof reading it before it goes out… maybe that’s just me.

I kinda miss the old GSoM…

Beyond Golden State of Design... and than some!
http://www.tonypsd.blogspot.com/

by Tony.psd on Jun 27, 2009 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

“You guys act like baron has been gone forever, It’s been one year? heck yes bring him back, we could use him”

the warriors didnt want to pay him last yr before he opted out. hes contract is worse than maggette’s. baron doesnt care he got paid and now is on a crappy team and the warriors have moved on. the warriors turned down BD for MAG durring the season so it just shows they do want him anymore.

by ADZ72589 on Jun 27, 2009 8:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Baron

They didn’t take himback because they would of shown they made a mistake by letting him go, it has nothing to do with the real truth:

If we could trade Baron for Maggs we should do it in a heart beat,…… will it happen? I doubt it, should it happen? HELL YES:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

The semi colons were for sleepy =)

by ForestGrump on Jun 28, 2009 12:26 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I don’t see any semi-colons, Bartolo. ;-)

Thing 1

by Sleepy Freud on Jun 28, 2009 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

HELL YES:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

Wipe the sleep out of them there eyes and connects the dots Rip Van Wanker hehe ;)

by ForestGrump on Jun 28, 2009 2:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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by Sleepy Freud on Jun 28, 2009 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hahaha wow, your replies are very funny!!! there are you satisfied with your 2 seconds of fame?

yea true, i love the fact he was on a weak team last year. It would of hurt my heart if he’d made the all star team like some in the past. but do you think the PG’s that we have will be able to defend the likes of Western Conference chris paul, deron williams, steve nash, chauncy billups, and even baron davis?

by townlyfe on Jun 28, 2009 1:35 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Forget bringing back Baron...

Lets go after Penny Hardaway to run the point!!!

"Where's the beef?"

by MMunoz33 on Jun 28, 2009 7:16 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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My eyes aren’t what they used to be RIP!! =)

by ForestGrump on Jun 28, 2009 8:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Much better, young Bartolo.

;-)

Thing 1

by Sleepy Freud on Jun 28, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

How did you know it was me?

Bartolo Colón (born May 24, 1973 in Altamira, Dominican Republic) is a Major League Baseball starting pitcher for the Chicago White Sox. He won the American League Cy Young Award with the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim in 2005.

by ForestGrump on Jun 28, 2009 10:09 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

seriously?

baron davis? again? really? dude he LEFT us. thats sad that you would even think of trying to get him back. f baron davis. the warriors dont need to be some pathetic person trying to get back with their ex boyfriend/girlfriend. not only does trying to get baron back spell disaster, but its also embarrassing that we would even think of letting him COME back.

by nhlogan on Jun 30, 2009 1:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs