RUMOR: Warriors interested in Terrence Williams aka "Gatorade-protector" with the #7 pick
The Golden State Warriors have been hosting a multi-team pre-draft workouts here in Oakland. 2009 Warriors Draft Central on Warriors.com has all the details and plenty of multimedia to get you overhyped about yet another lottery pick for this franchise.
Maybe it's just Nellie playing the media like he always does especially during draft time, but it seems like the Warriors are really interested in Louisville swingman Terrence Williams and the feeling is mutual.
Make the jump like TWill in this pic for the details. [via www.nku.edu]
In Don Nelson in the house, Terrence Williams livens it up, and other group workout notes [Talking Points] Tim Kawakami writes:
The buzz is that Williams has a promise from a team sitting mid-round. The Warriors have interest in Williams at No. 7, so they only have to worry about a promise from a team behind them if it prevents Williams from wanting to work out for the GSWs.
But Williams sounded very eager to land with the Warriors, mostly because of the style of play (and, I'd assume, getting drafted 7th vs. out of the top 10 means millions more dollars over the life of his rookie deal).
This is consistent with what Tim told us in our recent Q&A with him.
Tim's also got a great post-workout interview transcript Terrence Williams' Twitter-ish transcript: "I would love to be here".
-Q: Do you see yourself as a possible point-forward, since maybe the Warriors are looking at you for that?
-WILLIAMS: I think I fit great. If that's what they need, I'll play point-forward, center, Gatorade-protector, anything.
That's what I played in college. That's what I played in high school, played AAU, point-forward, the person that was not really the point guard but bring the ball up the court, run the offense. Yeah, I see myself as that.
Gatorade-protector? Move over Rob Kurz. Your job will soon be obsolete. Sorry man. It happens to even the best of us- just ask Adonal Foyle.
Protect the Gatorade.
-Q: At Louisville, did you end up guarding the toughest perimeter players?
-WILLIAMS: I guarded the best player. I guarded point guards some games. I guarded power forwards some games. And then some games, if the other teams really can't shoot, we'd just go into a zone.
I know the Warriors are already LOADED with defenders, but I'm sure Nellie can find a role for him.
Check out the rest of the interview transcript. TWill rolls with both Jamal Crawford and Gary Payton.
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Smokes Screen diversionary tactics. He said himself that no one from the Warriors had talked to him personally.
Draft-wise taking him at #7 would be a lot like the Heyward-Bey situation with the Raiders.
Could Rowell and Riley be getting mentored by Al Davis?
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by Nuck Chorris on Jun 3, 2009 10:20 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
it wouldn’t “heyward-bey” bad (williams should be a top 15 pick), but there’s no reason to draft him at 7 when we could trade down and either lose a bad contract or get another young player in the deal. i like williams a lot, but not even i would say he’s the call at the 7.
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by cap'n hack on Jun 3, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A team can trade down only if there’s a team willing to trade up. I don’t see too many ‘available at 7’ players who would be worth taking on a bad contract to get, which is what you’re proposing another team does.
by jae on Jun 3, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
100% agreed
The “common logic” is that in this draft there’s isn’t much difference between the 6th pick and the 20th pick. It’s going to be hard to find a team that wants to trade. Not impossible as there could be one prospect that catches one GM’s eye, but very hard.
by Atma Brother ONE on Jun 3, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can see a trade to trade down. I just don’t think it’s one where we unload a bad contract in the process.
by jae on Jun 3, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In this draft getting rid of a bad contract + trade down seems impossible, but as KG will tell you impossible is nothing!
by Atma Brother ONE on Jun 3, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by R Dizzle on Jun 3, 2009 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i highly doubt it too. i’m just saying that a trade down that nets us something of value is the only way we end up with terrance williams. the 7 is too early, though i think some team in the 12-16 range is going to get a very solid player.
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by cap'n hack on Jun 3, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that said, i’m not too far away from talking myself into williams at the 7, but i just don’t see it actually happening.
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by cap'n hack on Jun 3, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don’t know about the bad contract portion, but it’s been reported that the Bobcats (at 12) are interested in moving up to get Curry.
-Larry Brown is reportedly extremely high on Stephen Curry, and may be willing to trade up in order to get him. Apparently he views him as being able to play either guard position, even alongside Charlotte’s current group of point guards, Raymond Felton and D.J. Augustin.
Curry is getting love from teams as high up as Washington and also has a chance to be drafted 6th (Minnesota) or 7th (Golden State). While the Knicks clearly like him, he isn’t the only player they will consider—the other top candidates on their board currently appear to be Tyreke Evans and Jrue Holiday.
by the evil monkey on Jun 3, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe they'll do us a favor
and sign and trade: Felton to GSW along with their pick, then our pick and Maggette/Crawford to them
by ZaMzAm FiRe on Jun 3, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have learned not to make a judgement anymore
maybe he is the best player in the draft and we just dont see it.
Did anyone think Jordan would rule the NBA after his run at North Carolina? Hell no. Dean Smith would never let a player play the way an NBA team would regardless of talent.
The draft is fun to talk about, but if a kid makes a strong showing, why doubt him?
by warriorsvictim on Jun 3, 2009 10:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s rare that ANYONE is predicted to be the best of all time, but Jordan was Nat’l player of the year and was widely regarded as a top talent. No one questioned him at #3 at the time. It surprised no one who saw him in college that Jordan was a perennial all star.
by jae on Jun 3, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe we could trade down to a lower position and try and get a verteran pg perhaps? Sessions and Miller come to mind. I mean, lets not kid ourselves, even if we draft a pg at 7, do you really think nelson is gonna give the rookie that much burn? From his previous track record, I think not.
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by JustSomeName on Jun 3, 2009 10:39 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
From track record, if the guy can play, then yes. Nelson had no problem starting an undersized PG with an ugly (yet strangely accurate) outside shot that had zero rotation taken mid draft, nor did he have problems start off guards taken both early and late in the first round. It’s not Nelson. It’s the player.
by jae on Jun 3, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
thank you
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by bloodsweatndonuts on Jun 3, 2009 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Williams is intriguing. I’d have to be convinced more. On the positive, his distance shooting is moving in the right direction and he’s got fabulous assist and turnover numbers for a 2/3 and can rebound well too. If he’s in the realm of BPA, that’s some potential good fit with Monta, as it suggests he’s able to do some of the distribution, than he’s got size to handle bigger guards and deal with switches. He isn’t a big time scorer. This doesn’t bother me, but if he isn’t a scorer, he better the good defender he’s advertised to be.
On the negatives, he seems stalled as a lousy FT shooter and his overall FG% is not impressive. As a defensive specialist who can also handle and distribute the ball and take advantage of what defensives give him when they give it to him, he can be ok. If he decides that somehow he has to score to get recognized, and this is probably true, he could increase his shooting volume to the point that it really, really kills whomever he plays for.
by jae on Jun 3, 2009 10:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’d really LOVE the W’s to trade out of this spot. either trade up, trade for BD, getting rid of a couple other contracts, or trade down. It’s too easy to just sit back and pick a player at #7. You have to get these guys at good values. That’s why Heyward-Bey will NEVER be seen as a good pick, because the Raiders could have gotten so much more, and still got there man.
by aBulldog on Jun 3, 2009 10:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think judging Warriors draft strategy by anything an NFL team did is all that useful.
The NFL draft is a very different animal from the NBA draft. Every year, football teams rely on rookies to come in and play key roles. At minimum, they’re used on special teams, but most teams start a few rookies. Lineup turnover is high and the sheer number of players you need is higher than in basketball. Most basketball teams do not start rookies and many teams don’t have any play that much. Football teams get value out of later picks. The difference between 1st and 2nd rounders is not always clear (and there are actually some good studies indicating that for what you wind up paying them, late first round picks are significantly better deals than early picks). Picking for need makes sense in football as the playing life of most guys is short and you cannot stockpile backup talent at the expense of immediate play. And as teams pick for need, you know the various teams’ needs, you can better predict whether a guy will fall to a spot if you trade down to take a guy you want.
None of this holds equally true for basketball. Every year or so, an NBA team collects a couple of 1st rounders, sometimes even three. It is very, very rare that more than one of these guys work out. It is not uncommon to see a team take more than one busts with multiple picks. Part of this is that the odds of a player being able to do much for a basketball team drops quickly as the first round moves on. If that second 1st is in the 10-20 range, odds are that you’re not picking a guy who will help much, ever. Unless you are really keen on a guy that you are pretty sure other teams will overlook, trading down is more than likely just going to drop your odds of getting someone who can play the game at all. And I don’t think that the ‘weak year/strong year’ difference really has a much of an impact on this as many would like to postulate.
This doesn’t look like a year that someone is going to take our garbage in exchange for swapping picks. No one wants bad contracts. The #7 pick isn’t valuable enough to warrant acquiring players we’d give away for nothing were there takers.
by jae on Jun 3, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft2009/insider/news/story?id=4222914
Good study of this. Dunno how many people have insider – but if you do, there you go. I figured they wouldn’t like it if I posted their graph on a blog for free, so I refrained from doing so.
by Missing Barry on Jun 3, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I enjoyed watching him play at Louisville, but I don’t think he’s the right guy for us. I’d rather have a bunch of other guys ahead of him, such as Brandon Jennings, Jrue Holiday and Tyreke Evans between all of the players who may be available when we select.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 3, 2009 11:26 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Lets hope Al Davis hasn’t been chatting it up with Nelly or Riley OR Cohan for that matter!
by insanenthemembrane on Jun 3, 2009 1:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Something no one has noted yet is...
Anyone notice that the top 7 or more prospects where not at his draft work out. A lot of the guys suggested might go at 7. Curry, Evans, Jennings, Clark, etc.
That being said, it doesn’t suprise me the talk about T Will. I just think we need to take it with that grain of salt.
On the issue of them drafting him, I previously posted a thread on this. I just don’t see anyone at the 7 spot being the difference maker we are all hoping. I’ll be happy with a solid role playre or quality bench guy. I think Twill fits that bill and I hope the warriors stay away from guys with higher bust potential. I don’t think this is the right draft to gamble on.
by Balance on Jun 3, 2009 1:34 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
But he would be paid as a #7 draft pick…. so I would have to think he’d be considered a bust, if all he became was a role player, or quality bench guy, right? He supposedly has decent size, and great defense. That is something to look forward to. The Warriors seem to find these guys who can score, but yet, they end up becoming those “role player/quality bench guys”… so they don’t really need another one of those types of players.
I’m pretty confident that there will be a couple guys who will be quality starters at #7. They probably won’t be that “franchise player”, or superstar, but I think they can find someone who has enough potential to work his way to the brink of star status, kinda like a J-Rich, or something. They definitely don’t need another Dunleavy Jr.
If Nelson is talking this guy up, I can almost guarantee that the W’s aren’t looking at this guy too seriously. It’s probably a ploy to get another team to pounce on him, or something.
I’m seeing Mock Drafts now that Rubio is going 4th? Do you guys like Rubio, and could you see the Warriors moving up to take him?
by aBulldog on Jun 3, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Experience, defense, rebounding, and ball distribution... that's why he is a possibility
He could be a solid addition who could make the vary valuable Azubuike trade bait. This would be a good pick if coupled with a good trade. I’m not sold on Holliday or Jennings and Williams would be a safe pick. Nellie has made it known that he likes Williams potential as an NBA point-forward.
by T-Money on Jun 3, 2009 3:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
"This would be a good pick if coupled with a good trade."
Totally agree, T-money. I’d much rather do this and pick up a known PG commodity.
by flaaron on Jun 3, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
im all for T Will
hes a lockdown defnder who can make plays rebound and is an energy guy
but not for the #7 pick
maby aquire a 10-15 pick and get him there
by gswfan2 on Jun 3, 2009 3:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
hold up
who is making this decison? Al Davis. lol
by warriorfan4life on Jun 3, 2009 11:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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