RUMOR: Amare Stoudemire not that interested in the Warriors
by Atma Brother ONE on Jun 30, 2009 5:11 PM PDT
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This was... interesting.
Amare- It's interesting here I swear!
Tim Kawakami's got the details in Two sources: Stoudemire has little interest in coming to the Warriors [Talking Points]:
Two high-placed NBA sources this afternoon said that Amare Stoudemire has little interest in joining the Warriors and indicated that the likeliest scenario at this point is for him to stay with the Suns this season.
There really isn't much to like about this likeliest scenario. The Warriors need a shake-up in the worst way and at this point Amare to the Bay looked like the best option by far- so good it was pretty unbelievable.
It is not clear whether Stoudemire has expressed this to the Warriors, or relayed it to them, or if it's a change of attitude from the hectic minutes during the draft, when it was widely assumed (by me, too) that the Warriors were close to acquiring Stoudemire.
Hopefully these two sources are Steve Kerr and Robert Sarver just trying to drive up Amare's value.
Stoudemire has told associates that he believes the Warriors could be giving up too much in the proposed deal (Andris Biedrins, Brandan Wright, Marco Belinelli and a wrangle over Stephen Curry) to guarantee that he'd be in a successful situation this season.
Amare- I'm guessing you're reading this. Trust me the Warriors are NOT giving up too much (Biedrins, Wright, Belinelli). I've resisted writing about how little the Warriors are giving up in this heist to avoid it getting dispersed across the web and read by the Phoenix Suns' front offices, but I'm more than happy to tell you how much fun you'll have here in the Yay with Stephen Jackson, Corey Maggette, Monta Ellis, Stephen Curry, Anthony Randolph, Anthony Morrow, and Ronny Turiaf playing Nellieball in front of the Roaracle crowd. Just drop me a line.
Amare 2 the Bay. Let's do this.
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I didn't see Amare shove Adonal with his free arm.
But they should’ve called a travel. Anyway i’m not really interested in Amare anymore.
It is the shoes!!!
More leverage for us
“Hey Kerr, we’d love to include Curry, but Amare won’t sign the extension if we give you more than Biedrins, Wright, and Belinelli… sorry.”
Make it happen.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Jun 30, 2009 5:19 PM PDT reply actions
+1
Wright and Belinelli wouldn’t get much playing time anyway (Especially Belinelli who would probably fall behind Anthony Morrow, Stephen Curry and other guards in the rotation).
It’s basically a Biedrins for Amare swap. Depending on the contract, most people would probably think it’s crazy to prefer Biedrins over Amare.
It wouldn’t be hard for Amare to match Biedrins’ “offensive efficiency”. All he has to do is be able to make a layup, lol. Biedrins can’t make a shot outside 3 feet of the basket and he can’t make free throws either. And about the rebounding, if Biedrins can average 10 rebounds a game for the Warriors then imagine how many rebounds AMARE STOUDEMIRE can average. And with the addition of Anthony Randolph at the PF position to pair up with Amare, our rebounding gets even more better. =]
by Precise Films Productions on Jun 30, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
And about the rebounding, if Biedrins can average 10 rebounds a game for the Warriors then imagine how many rebounds AMARE STOUDEMIRE can average.
I’m imagining… fewer.
by onlxn on Jun 30, 2009 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah but
You’re underrating the number of extra rebounds writing a player’s in ALL CAPS can bring him.
PFP, seriously: this is like the 10th time you’ve posted this BS, despite the fact that each time you’ve done so you’ve been politely educated, ridiculed, slapped down, or otherwise refuted. Like … cut the crap?
Biedrins is a significantly better rebounder than Stoudemire. It’s not a matter of opinion. Do you care about reality at all?
Thing 1
I stopped reading as soon as i saw tim kawakami
but yeah, not interested in amare + we ARE giving up too much
by placid on Jun 30, 2009 5:19 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
hahahaha
those were the first two words after the jump, too
by IQofaWarrior on Jun 30, 2009 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Right, because it's not like Kawakami was one of the first people to report on the trade here ...
… oh, wait, nevermind.
As I've said before
I will laud the person who breaks the right story, and I will NOT laud the person who happens to break the story first. And just because he’s in kahootz with AB1 and gets his articles posted here doesn’t mean he was the first person to realize that something like this might be going down.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Jul 1, 2009 6:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I stopped reading when I saw tim kawakami as well,
however I am all for the trade as long as it sticks with Beans, Wright and Marco. With Curry in the mix it’s a big NO and we wond do it anyway.
by VERY VERY BUSY on Jul 1, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
If he don’t wanna be here, I wouldn’t want him here. Even during all the speculation, I was very indifferent on this trade. I knew either way, whether or not this trade went through, I’d be happy with our roster. Whether it be with Amare on board or if we keep Biedrins/Buike/Wright/Belinelli, I’m sure we can pull off an equal or better trade at the deadline with our two expirings in Law and Claxton.
WARRIORS BASKETBALL!!! Patiently waiting for a title...I may be waiting for a long time...
Ya and Tims sources said Curry wasn't playing here either.
Most GSoMers hate the trade anyways so good on to Bosh!
by Crab Ddribble Cocktail on Jun 30, 2009 5:20 PM PDT reply actions
Doesn't matter,we need a superstar over here so they'll finally give us some respect.
Its time for a change...
by RunNdGun on Jun 30, 2009 5:33 PM PDT reply actions
Don't care about Tim or Amare
I think we have a good crew this year+ going forward. Why blow it up for an injury/head case?
Dayummmmm!!!!!
that dunk was sick!!!
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by i love sports101 on Jun 30, 2009 5:36 PM PDT reply actions
I think I’m over the A’mare hype. I realized I’m tired of typing his name with a apostrophe.
Confident Marco Belinelli supporter
Sorry, Amar'e
Confident Marco Belinelli supporter
by Doctor Kajita on Jun 30, 2009 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
three questions
1. Are ANY of the following a better fit for GSW than Amare?
Millsap, Boozer or Mehmet?
Artest? Hedo? David Lee?
Marion? Odom? Villaneuva?
Verejao? Gortat? Wallace?
2. Does ANYone think the odds of landing ANY of the above FA/RFA are better than landing Amare? (you can limit yourself to who you think might be as good a fit as Amare)
Just think twice (hence, two questions) before discounting picking up Amare because someone posted a regurgitated, unsubstantiated rumor here.
3. You know why you are: Why are we still reading TK rehash here?
i hope millsap can come here or something
since boozer and okur aren’t leaving the jazz
1. maybe Odom, who could swing 3-4 in an enticing lineup! maybe Boozer, but his pace is substantially different than ours. I like David Lee, but Amare’s a better player. If we could land one of those three, then we should try as we wouldn’t be losing Andris in an Amare deal ….
2. As far as I can tell, unless we clear cap space we aren’t even in the ball game with most of them.We can’t land either Odom or Boozer. The dukie may already have opted in at Utah, and if he opts out is going to cost big $ which we don’t have room for under the luxury cap. Odom has already hinted at giving LAL a bit of a hometown discount to stay. NYK would probably match any decent offer for Lee, and we’d have to try the infamous “sign & trade.” Three guesses which #7 draftee would be NYK’s first choice …
So, before we jettison the best option, and most likely, think about how likely any of the Plan B’s really are.
Are ANY of the following a better fit for GSW than Amare?
Wright? Marco? Montay? Curry? BeDris? I’z-a-blue-kitty? Which have been allstars?
Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Jun 30, 2009 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions
none of those guys are as good as Amare, but several of them (Lee, Odom, Artest, Marion, Wallace) would be at least decent fits and they would all come a lot cheaper, both financially and in terms of what we’d give up via trade, than Stoudemire. You also left out guys like AK47 and Prince who may be available via trade. I’m really not that against the trade for Stoudemire in its Curryless form and I definitely don’t put much stock in these rumors, but I don’t think its worth worrying about not working out. We still have very good young pieces, and I’m holding out hope something better becomes available later in the offseason or even in the middle of the season. There probably is a little bit more pressure to make a deal this offseason than most realize simply because of the number of roster spots/playing time t available…..if Watson and Davidson return we have 15 guys under contract even if we don’t use the MLE or add a summer stud. At least 12 of those guys are probably going to expect fairly substantial playing time too. But I don’t think making a trade to ease those numbers is something we need to panic about….yet.
Thing A
And I love the poll
but you know, thats all I read of this post.
There's a party in my mind.
And I wish that I was there.
What really has to happen
is that Larry Riley and Don Nelson need to sit down with Biedrins, Marco, and Wright, and let them know that this was purely a business move and that they would still love to have them on the team. We don’t want to go into the season with locker room drama.
by ZaMzAm FiRe on Jun 30, 2009 5:58 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
That's a good point to bring up
I think Biedrins will probably handle it OK. He seems like the kind of person where nothing bothers him, except a really REALLY bad foul call. Marco and Wright probably wouldn’t mind being traded so they can get more playing stable time.
by IQofaWarrior on Jun 30, 2009 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
He seems like the kind of person where nothing bothers him
Sup IQ.
I might have to disagree with that.
Do you recall the date January 27, 2008 when we played the New York Knicks at the Roaracle?
AB gobbled up 26 boards and scored 11 points in 4-6 FG which was a counter attack reaction to Don Nelson’s bright IDEA of bringing in Chris Webber.
I am sure AB was freggin pissed off when he heard the news and was saying to himself “Ain’t no broke down sucka takin my job.”
I’m sure AB really wants to stay here and is disturbed with all this trade talk for Amare.
Romes Mac Mojous
by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Jul 1, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
It would obviously bother him to leave the team and bay area that he loves...
but he isn’t the type of person to throw a bitch fit. Also, he commented that it wouldn’t be insulting for a player of Bosh/Amare caliber.
That is one nasty dunk...
As I’ve said, if we don’t have to pay him max, I am all for this deal. We’ll be an amazing team with Amar’e at center, AR at PF, Jack at 3, Ellis and Morrow at the 1 and 2 (with an up and coming Curry ready to take a spot). Holy hell, we’ll be good.
I don't blame him
Our Bay Area is the least interesting place around. Phoenix is probably pretty boring too cause they got the old peeps. But look at us! Look at our dead desert environment! Whoowhee.
ya no one wants to be in the Bay Area,
Thats why our real estate values are so cheap. People are flocking to Detroit, Cleveland, Oklahoma City, not to mention Milwakee and Minneapolis.
by Crab Ddribble Cocktail on Jun 30, 2009 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Sarca….ah, forget it.
Confident Marco Belinelli supporter
by Doctor Kajita on Jun 30, 2009 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Amare
I don’t put much stock in that kind of talk, he may be posturing and trying to appeal to the fans, at the same time sending a message that he thinks if we give up Curry it’s to much, because the team will be to depleted:
I don;t think he wants to come and play the center position, he likes the PF, so we need to let him know that RT is fully capable of playing that position, he needs a twek here and there:
I won’t give up on the guy because of a few comments, he has to come right out and say something publicly before i get on the Amare hate wagon :)
Ive been dissed ENOUGH !
Its time to reveal my secret identity !…….I am BWright and im finally mad enough to show you losers what a beast I truly am! Just watch my dust this year AR……………
by Only In Fairfax on Jun 30, 2009 6:54 PM PDT reply actions
yeah, right
wright has too quiet of a personality to get mad
by IQofaWarrior on Jun 30, 2009 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions
HEY BRANDEN !!
Branden, I knew it was you all along, Eck told me your blog name =)
if you look at the posts I was the only one who said DON’T TRADE BRANDEN!!!
Hey, get some some tickets behind the bench this year, I need to get the kids some autographs, thanks bud .
HEY BRANDEN !!
Just to let you know how I knew it was you, a fried of ours told me after you met jenny in fair fax you started posting "only in Fairfax =)
Hey I’ll send you my e-mail for those tickets ,cool -
.I am BWright and im finally mad enough to show you losers what a beast I truly am!
Come over here and let me pull your arm off again then we’ll see how tough you talk.
Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Jun 30, 2009 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Holy S***.....
If that was true i sure would flip… Hey but you never know Jamal Crawford reads blogs.. Just for GOD sake I want to let you know that I am brandanwright#1fan (check the screen name)
Damn… Am I a groopie??? I got to snap out of this…. hahaha
TL32
by brandanwright#1fan on Jun 30, 2009 7:10 PM PDT reply actions
Normally, I would say that a player’s feelings about the trade likely would not mean anything, but if this is true then it basically terminates the deal because Stoudemire would not sign an extension. Since Stoudemire has leverage, his feelings are important.
If he says he doesn’t want to come over, no hard feelings, have fun on your sinking ship of a team for one more year. But yeah, good call cause it’s too risky to commit your future to the Warriors. I’m sure he won’t be signing with the Clippers during free agency either.
im andris biedrins
and im very angry about being traded. roar.
btw proof it’s me and angry
http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs30/f/2008/106/3/3/335ad811915a12aec4ac6393675b2cd7.jpg
by placid on Jun 30, 2009 7:43 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
"One on One I wanna play that game tonight-yeah"
“Adonal VS Amare”
Thanks to the author BBJ
Hope this youtube embed shizzle works on SBNation GSoM, if not, simple direct link:
Amare
If you do read GSoM and read this, stay with the Suns. We don’t need you.
I still think you are a very good player and exciting to watch, but you will suck with us if you came here without Nash.
The situation is better for you in Phoenix now that Shaq is gone. If the trade does go through though, you’ll love the Roaracle fans. Even the fans who don’t want you now will embrace you in a Dubs uniform and support you to the fullest and to the end….
but some of us die hard Warrior fans want to keep this young core together as long as possible. This core we have now with the addition of Curry hasn’t even played a full season together because of injuries and one crucial & idiotic mistake points at Monta [okayimoveritnow]). Some of us want to see how well it develops and an Amazing Good Happen this coming up season.
No offense, but our front court of AR, Biedrins, Turiaf and BWright (if he stays) works cool for us. (some of us on GSoM, anyways.)
By the way, Anthony Randolph is going to be a way better PF than you. No offense. The truth hurts sometimes.
Romes Mac Mojous
by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Jul 1, 2009 10:07 AM PDT reply actions
I still think you are a very good player and exciting to watch, but you will suck with us if you came here without Nash.
Given that he has not sucked (actually been almost as productive) without Nash, I’m gonna call shenanigans on this.
Amar’e, if you’re reading, the guy above does not speak for the sum of GSW fans.
by jae on Jul 1, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
"Suck" maybe too strong of a word and the incorrect usage.
He probably wouldn’t suck for us, but I could see his numbers decline or become inconsistent with us.
He is a very good scorer, so i ask: what happens if he isn’t part of the top scorers on our squad, will he commit himself to playing defense or grabbing boards while not caring about scoring?
I would rather see Anthony Randolph be our next 20 and 10 guy. If AR isn’t part of the top scorers for a game, then we know he will/ can commit to playing defense, rebounding or doing other things on the floor to help the team win.
I would rather have Biedrins on our team because he doesn’t care about being the top scorer for us. He’ll get his points from being our garbage man, grab rebounds for us, play defense, etc.
Who knows. It could work if Amare played for us. A lot of fans want to see a Star player play for us. I’ll be patient with AR to reach that stardom (hopefully with us) because he can and will be an absolute stud.
My vote is stick with the core we have and see what happens.
Romes Mac Mojous
by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Jul 1, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
(assuming the trade) If Amar’e isn’t part of the top scorers on our squad, we’re using him wrong. Bringing him here with the mindset of letting his offense take a backseat to have him focus on defense and rebounding would be ridiculously stupid. Stoudemire is an elite offensive force, one of the absolute best in the game. He can score in high volume and maintain efficiency above anyone we’ve got on our squad (and this was true even in an off year, even when Nash wasn’t playing).
by jae on Jul 1, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed.
Amare did average 20.6 PPG the year before Nash came. A significant increase from his rookie year where he scored 13.5 a game. Although “statistically” speaking, his FG% did go up since playing with Nash after that.
Either way you are correct in the point being made that Amare is an elite offensive force with or without Nash.
I went to the extreme of saying he will “suck” when I could have said, “His offense could take a hit with having enough scorers on our team because too many scoring players could cause drama and could tamper the chemistry of the team.”
So if the reason we are trying to trade for Amare to be a scorer on our squad, are we trying to say that is what we are lacking on this Warrior roster?
Romes Mac Mojous
by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Jul 1, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I am not referring to before/after Nash but to the split last season when Nash was on the court vs. when Nash was on the bench. His scoring productivity did not decline when Nash was resting. There was no hit without Nash last year and the hit the year before and the year before that was tiny. His game changes but he is still almost entirely as effective.
by jae on Jul 2, 2009 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Good Tactic on Amare's part
Say he doesnt want to come because we are giving up too much….then we trade less for him and he comes to a stacked team…well, as stacked as a Warrior team can be right now.
what's more credible?
… Tim Kawakami’s “sources” (the same ones that said Amare and the warriors were in contract talks and are now saying those never happened) or Amare himself? Check his Twitter. He posted “Amare to the Lakers!” and then “Amare to Golden State! What do you think?” Being one of two teams mentioned by himself gives me the idea he’d be open to the trade.
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