Warriors to Work Out Jonny Flynn and Brandon Jennings
by Atma Brother ONE on Jun 9, 2009 10:23 AM PDT
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If Flynn even tries on D he'll be a huge improvement over the Dubs current backcourt.
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The Dubs will be working out Arizona's Jordan Hill this coming Friday, but before that on Thursday they'll be bringing in 2 guards for a workout: Jonny Flynn and Brandon Jennings [via 2009 Draft Blog on Warriors.com].
Why should the Warriors draft Jonny Flynn with the 7th pick? GSoMer mcwalter44 makes the case.
GSoMers have spoken in doses and there's an overly positive sentiment towards drafting Brandon Jennings with the #7 pick:
- Jennings @ #7... YES!!! According to Chad Ford (mcwalter44)
- GSoM Group Project: Brandon Jennings Ramblings (cap'n hack)
- Brandon Jennings #7 (gsw1)
- Ty Lawson Vs. Brandon Jennings (nateoak10)
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ESPN has a new article on Jennings. I was already pro-Jennings, but now I feel even stronger that he would be a great pick at #7.
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Are other warriors allowed to participate in workouts? I know for example randolph and morrow are in oakland training. I’m not sure who else, but I’m sure it gives a better example than say agility and shooting drills. For example if they can get shot off in lane with randolph rotating over… You’re probably not gonna go inside on players much longer than AR
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by Anthony Randolph needs a beard on Jun 9, 2009 12:27 PM PDT reply actions
why was jennings not playing in the playoffs?
im leaning towards flynn now…
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by RunNdGun on Jun 9, 2009 12:38 PM PDT reply actions
According to Chad Ford:
“As the regular season ended, Jennings came down with a mild case of tendinitis in his knees. The doctors suggested he rest for a game or two. He quickly recovered, but by then, he was totally out of the rotation. His coach didn’t want to mess with the chemistry of the team and Jennings watched, helpless on the sidelines, as his team fell in the quarterfinals to Biella — a team that he had played his best game in the Italian league against just a few months earlier.”
by Missing Barry on Jun 9, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
i take offense to my post being lumped in with the “overly positive” posts on jennings. i’m terrified of brandon jennings and have no idea what we’re getting with him.
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Just read that ESPN Article...
And I wasn’t a big fan of Jennings prior. But I have to say, what I read did impress me. From his dedication to the improvement on his fundamentals, to the learning of the team game. Those are ALL things I think a rookie in the league eventually needs to understand. Seems that Jennings might have a had a good taste of that in Italy, and the reasoning behind him not getting the PT seems pretty reasonable and true.
Knowing that he had a ton of potential out of high school, I think his experience may have humbled him a little, and that’s the kind of player I want the Warriors to draft.
This year in Italy may have shown him what he’s in for in pro-ball, and I’m sure he’s hungry to attain the level of performance that was expected of him in the first place. If he’s there @ #7, I wouldn’t be opposed to drafting him as I think he’d be a lot more prepared for the grind of the what it takes to play for a professional business and not a school.
It’s a good point – his Italy experience could have been a learning experience in the mold of Nelson not playing Randolph much at the beginning of the season. Young kid needed to learn how to play, work and act professionally to earn minutes instead of being handed them.
by Missing Barry on Jun 9, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I want to see Brandon get the high top fade again
What!?!? Twins!!! or is this a sign???
We be doin' it CROOKLYN style!!!!!
Chauncy won a championship
But not with the team that drafted him.
Let’s hope Sacto drafts him so that he can bounce around a few years, we can have a few roster changes, and then go all defense with Roy Williams as coach(or some other college coach who’s won a Nat’l championship, Tom Izzo?).
That’s what we need to do.
Don’t draft BJ, wait for him to be a FA in 5 years!
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by Dubs fan in Boston on Jun 10, 2009 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions
BJ for the win
"If you can make 10 things happen during the 10 minutes you play tonight, we will quadruple your salary and you will start for the rest of the season" ... and then he does just that, but the coach reneges on the promise so Anthony has a near-crying meltdown on the bench. That's every Anthony Randolph game.
I'm fine with either....
Big Brandon Jennings fan here, but I’d be happy with either of them.
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jrue
im a fan of bj, but i think jrue holiday has the most potential for the pg position (besides rubio) coming out of this draft. ive heard some dwayne wade comparisons from a few different magazines, and on the internet. and hes also got size. 6-4 200 lbs. And that is becoming a bigger part of the nba as the years go by. just look at what size, strength, and athleticism alone does for lebron.
Jrue Holiday is NOT Dwayne Wade. He’s not even Russell Westbrook.
by Missing Barry on Jun 10, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
im not saying he is, but people, including me, are saying they are reminded of dwayne wade when they watch him play. hes got potential. plus hes got DEFENSE. westbrook is better rightnow, but both of them are so young. and when looking at such young players you dont look for whose better rightnow, you look at who looks like they are going to be better 5 or 6 years from now and i give it up to jrue
My point was strictly related to their athleticism/ceiling. Jrue just isn’t that kind of athlete.
by Missing Barry on Jun 10, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
plus look at where wade was drafted. so in terms of their pre-draft status, holiday is very much like wade
Wade was drafted #4 in one of the best draft classes ever. Jrue could fall to the mid-first round of a fairly weak one…
by Missing Barry on Jun 10, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
he can be if he works out properly which i think he will. once again: look at lebron now compared to his rookie year and how much muscle he has gained. anyone physically has the potential to be as good as dwayne wade, wade just knows more about the game and the control of his body than most people, and a lot of this stuff is already natural to holiday. with the help of the best coahes, trainers, and players in the world, holiday will dramatically improve as will all rookies, but the game comes more naturally to holiday. just look at how he doesn’t have to be explosive but is still very effective
anyone physically has the potential to be as good as dwayne wade
Anyone? Really anyone? In the middle of a recession and faced with the impending loss of my paycheck (semi-voluntary), this is manna from the gods. Please show me how to become like DWade, start endorsing T-Mobile, and become People’s 50 most beautiful people.
Hit me up at YourQueenAwaits@StartYourJourneyNow.MyLord.
Sorry, your post didn’t really seem to warrant a serious answer… but the above quote amused me quite a bit.
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by Dubs fan in Boston on Jun 10, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
it is physically possible for anyone to make the same movements of the body that d wade makes. you can if you want to, but you have to work really hard, and you pretty much have to be in you early to mid twenties. the reason wade is so good is because he naturally makes those body movements. any one can learn them. but learning takes a lot of time and by the time you learn them, youre probably too old to keep up with the guys in the NBA
“it is physically possible for anyone to make the same movements of the body that d wade makes.”
Not sure exactly what you’re trying to say here. Not everyone can jump as high as Wade, not everyone is as quick as Wade, and frankly, not everyone can make the same body movements as Wade. Everyone’s body is built differently, people have different amounts of quicktwitch muscle fibers, some people’s muscles are more efficient than others, people have different amounts of flexibility, different amounts of relative strength in the different muscles/tendons/ligaments throughout their body, and all these have an effect on the way people move. To a degree a person can improve in areas if they work, but everyone has their limits, and everyones limits are slightly different.
by Missing Barry on Jun 11, 2009 6:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Wait
So I can’t be the next Dwayne Wade? Now I’m sad.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Jun 11, 2009 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions
well there are obviously some factors like height and just genetics in general. but do you think steve nash is in the nba because of his genetics or his work ethic
Well I’m just talking about athleticism here. Nash is a below average NBA athlete. He’s in the NBA because he’s one of the most skilled basketball players in the world, with at least the minimum amount of size/athleticism necessary for the NBA. But no matter how hard Nash works, he’ll never improve his athleticism past a certain point (he does have very good stamina, though).
by Missing Barry on Jun 13, 2009 12:12 AM PDT up reply actions
im talking about basketball in general. im just saying that when you master all aspects of the game, which is possible(maybe not for everyone), then the outcome can be something like d wade
i am also saying that its not like wade received a gift from god, he worked extremely hard his whole life to have the body and athletic skills he has and a phenominal b ball iq.
i dont even know what we are debating anymore. i was just originally sayin that jrue holiday has a game similar to wade. and i was also trying to say that jrue will probably improve his athletism making him even more like wade, probably not as good, but you dont need to be like wade to make it in the nba
I’ve been under the impression this whole time you felt Holiday could be as athletic as Dwayne Wade, and that’s what I’ve been arguing against. He’s not. There’s obviously a lot more to basketball than sheer athleticism, though, which we seem to be in agreement about. Could Holiday develop his skills to become one of the better players in the league? I wouldn’t bet against it. I don’t think he’ll ever be Wade’s status though (top 5 player in the NBA), because Wade’s athleticism sets him apart.
“i am also saying that its not like wade received a gift from god, he worked extremely hard his whole life to have the body and athletic skills he has and a phenominal b ball iq.”
Obviously Wade’s worked really hard for everything he’s done, but at the same time, I have to disagree and say he has received a gift from god. He’s a pretty amazing natural athlete, even by NBA standards.
As for his game, I can agree I see some similarities between their styles. I watched a college highlight tape of Wade, and the one of Jrue I linked to below, and they do look pretty similar out there (though obviously highlights don’t tell the whole story).
“jrue will probably improve his athletism making him even more like wade, probably not as good, but you dont need to be like wade to make it in the nba”
No argument there…
by Missing Barry on Jun 13, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Everyone has their opinion as to who the best player to pick is. I’m not necessarily objecting to Jrue being a better pick than others, just to the part of your argument about his potential. He just doesn’t have the elite explosiveness/athleticism of guys like LBJ and Wade – so if that’s a main part of your argument, I would urge you to reconsider. It doesn’t mean he can’t become a good player, just that isn’t going to be a huge strength of his in the NBA.
Not that highlight video’s are the best way to judge anything, really, but just check out a couple of former UCLA guys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FP0ua5xFw4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLch7JBvXEQ
As for Jrue, I sat through his whole highlight video, and the most athletic play I came across was at 4:12 into the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtWJJCV4Hso
I will say he’s smooth, and that’s an attribute…but the explosiveness just isn’t comparable.
by Missing Barry on Jun 10, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
People can work on their explosiveness, but only a few people can get to the point of guys like Wade, Lebron. I would bet very heavily that Jrue cannot. Though Jennings body is completely different than those guys, a lot of people think he can be an elite NBA athlete, with the type of quickness guys like Rondo and Parker have. Jrue is bigger, though, so there probably is a reasonable case to be made that he does have as much/more potential, just as long as that case doesn’t assume he’s going to become as explosive as Wade.
" just stating his game and style of play is comparable to wade’s."
No real argument here. Honestly, I don’t know a whole lot about Jrue’s game, anyways.
by Missing Barry on Jun 11, 2009 7:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Seriously buddy
Give it a rest.
You and I can do plyometrics to be able to touch the rim (or even dunk), but let’s not kid ourselves and say “DWade and LBJ got where they are solely through the hard work they put into their bodies, and anyone can do that.” If it was really that easy, don’t you think the 1,000s of children of “helicopter sport” parents would be professional athletes? It’s not that easy, and the sooner you get that idea, the sooner you’ll stop sounding like those better basketball tv ads.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Jun 11, 2009 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions
If you want the full Jennings article that Ford wrote
Its’ all here. (It’s written in English, even though it’s posted on an Italian site.)
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