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LV Summer League - Day 1 - First Impressions

I think like a lot of people here, I was highly optimistic of the 2009 summer league GSW team.  A bigger, stronger Anthony Randolph?!  Improved Anthony Morrow?!  New man crush Stephen Curry?!  Highly touted Aussie Joe Ingles?!

Game 1 - GSW vs. Houston Rockets

Sadly, the GSW's started off the Las Vegas summer league like the regular season GSW's ended it.  Getting outrebounded by a LARGE margin (45 to 29), shooting terribly (37% from the field as a team), and falling apart down the stretch to lose to the Houston Rockets summer league team 73 - 69.

I know it's just summer league and the team aspects usually aren't even worth watching, but, the summer league team seems to have the same deficiencies as the big league team (including staying healthy.) 

Onto the player breakdowns:

Anthony Randolph - 20 pts (on 10 - 17), 10 rbs, 3 ast, 2 stl. 3 tos

Everyone by now has heard about the work that he's been putting in during the offseason and we're all excited to see how his game has progressed.  He put up a good stat line, but unfortunately if you watched the game you would have seen that his game hasn't quite made that jump that I was hoping for.  He was pretty much the same AR of last season.  One moment he's slashing to the hoop and catching an alley-oop from Steph Curry, the next moment he's dribbling into 4 guys on the break, losing the ball, and falling down.  The human highlight film / embarrassment real lives on. 

He played heavy minutes (33) and at times he was really winded and had to pull himself out of the game.  On the good side though, he was really aggressive on defense and was one of the few Warriors that were actually hustling to get rebounds / loose balls.  His ball handling seems to have improved, but his decision making still remains suspect (e.g. his traveling violation with 5 secs to go, when he probably should have put up the wide open 3 with the team down by 3.)  He needs to be more consistent and under control, at times it seemed like he was trying too hard.

Anthony Morrow - DNP (sprained ankle)

This was the biggest disappointment for me as I'm a huge Morrow fan.  He was limping around during the warm-ups so I'm not sure if he's going to suit up at all during the summer league, but for the Dubs sake I hope he does because they sure could use his scoring and rebounding.

Stephen Curry - 16 pts (on 4 - 14), 1 reb, 3 ast, 2 stl, 4 tos

His numbers were much less impressive than how I felt he actually played.  We all know he's a great shooter, so I'm not worried about the 4 - 14 shooting, I was mainly concerned with his ball handling, playmaking, and defense.  In the three areas that I was most concerned with, I think he faired very well.   In the first half, he mainly played off the ball and let Law be the primary handler.  Offensively he was fairly passive during the first half (I think he hit one 3 and missed a few other jumpers) electing to try and involve his teammates more.  In the second half however, they put him as the primary ball-handler and he started off the third quarter really aggressive, hitting two more threes and making several nice drives to the hoop, where he got fouled.

His shot is one of the nicest shots I have seen up close.  His release is so quick, that he usually gets the shot off before the defender can even react.  As a spot up shooter he's deadly.  However, like Morrow, he seemed to struggle putting the ball on the floor and pulling up with a jumper.  He did surprise me with his ability to get to the hole and get to the line though.

He showed flashes of his playmaking skills with several nice lobs and a well executed pick and roll with AR.  He did make a couple turnovers on poorly thrown lobs and entry passes however.  That kind of stuff will get better over time once he's more used to working with AR and others.

He did an excellent job pushing the ball in the second half and making the right decisions.  He played the most minutes on the team (35) and towards the end you could tell he was tired as all his shots that weren't even hitting the rim before, were all hitting short (including one free throw.)  I think he went 0fer the 4th quarter, which further lent to my feeling that he was getting tired.

His defense was what surprised me the most.  Don't get me wrong, he won't be mistaken for Raja Bell or Bruce Bowen, but he did an adequate job of staying in front of his man and not allowing dribble penetration.  He was active in the passing lanes, and ended up with a few steals.  Where he needs to improve though is his weak-side defense as he tends to help off his man a lot leaving them open for shots and he needs to communicate better (I say this is a team-wide problem though, not just him) as there were quite a few times when he would switch on a pick and the other guy wouldn't switch so there would be two guys covering the pick man and no one on the ball.

Overall it was a solid start.  His shooting will certainly improve, although it should be noted that he was defended a majority of the time by James White (listed 6-7, with mad hops.)  He may struggle getting his shot off against bigger guys like Kobe, etc. but against point guards and smaller SG's he shouldn't have a problem due to his quick release.  He's a lot more athletic and stronger than I thought and posseses quickness that I never knew he had.  He's got a great motor and like AR was one of the few Dubs who were fighting and scrapping the whole way through.

 Acie Law - 8 pts (on 3-6), 1 reb, 4 ast, 1 stl, 4 tos

I'm not gonna sugar coat it, I was pretty disappointed with Acie's performance.  He wasn't terrible by any means, but I really didn't even notice that he was on the court (and he was on the court for 31 mins.)  Other than the one nice pass to JD, the only other thing I remember about Acie was the *THUD* of his head hitting the floor at the end of the first half.  He was fairly unremarkable throughout the game and seemed to disappear completely in the second half.  I have a hard time believing he gets any more playing time than MWill  did last year.  Unless he improves dramatically, CJ Watson is still the #3 PG behind Monta and Steph.

Jermareo Davidson - 4 pts (on 2-6), 2 rebs, 0's the rest of the way

I was never a big fan of JD's game, but man he was terrible today.  His defense was non-existant (he made Joey Dorsey look like Dwight Howard), couldn't get a rebound to save his life (0 defensive rebounds) and generally acted like he didn't even care to be there, which isn't a good sign since he's fighting for a contract.  At least with Rob Kurz you got effort, which is more than I can say for JD brought today.  Unless he brings a ton more effort, don't expect him to be on the roster for this coming year.

Cartier Martin - 14 pts (on 5-11), 4 rebs, 1 to

For me, he was the biggest surprise of the day.  He played hard and scrappy, fighting for loose balls, stepping in for charges (I think he did it 3 times if I recall correctly) and playing some tough D against bigger guys.  His main weakness is his shot.  His shot is like the polar opposite of Steph's shot.  It's U-G-L-Y.  But, the rest of his game makes up for it.  Think a broke man's Ron Artest (minus the crazy.)  Right now I think he has the best shot at making the team, but his game is duplicated by KAZ (who is a much much better shooter) so I don't think he really fits on the roster, but the rest of these guys don't even belong in the NBA.

Joe Ingles - 3 pts (on 1-3), 0 rebs, 1 to

Behind the big 3, I was looking forward to seeing Ingles the most.  I had heard about him on the Aussie squad and was hoping he would be the 3 / 4 tough rebounder that the Dubs need.  I felt he had the best shot of all the undrafted FAs to make the team.

He ended up being the biggest disappointment of all for me today.  He was extremely tentative to the point where he seemed scared.  He was left wide open all day after the first three he put up was an airball.  He continued to get wide open looks and passed them up, which caused AR to yell at him *SHOOT IT*.  His ball handling was better than I expected (he played point forward a few possessions.)  His defense was not terrible, but he did look lost a few times.  His rebounding however was terrible (0 rebounds in 17 mins.)  He's going to need to improve that dramatically to have a shot at making the team.

Lawrence Hill - 2 pts (on 0-5), 7 rebs, 1 stl, 2 tos

In the limited playing time that he got, he did a great job hustling for boards.  Offensively he's terrible, but at least he gave the Dubs a second rebounder for the 10 minutes he was on the court to take some of the load off AR.

Jared Jordan, Quan Prowell, Conner Atchley, Lawrence Roberts, Jamal Sampson

They all got little or no playing time and none will realistically have a shot to make the roster.

Bonus Bits

Ronny Turiaf showed up halfway through the first quarter and sat behind the bench to watch and cheer on the kids.  Proving once again what a great teammate that guy is.

I sat around to watch the first half of the Sac vs. Det game to see Tyreke and the rest of Sac since GSW plays against them tomorrow.  They were extremely unimpressive, particularly Tyreke Evans.  I'm skeptical that he will be able to play the point in the NBA.   His court vision is worse than Monta's (several times Jason Thompson was running the lane or cutting to the hoop while Tyreke dribbled the ball into the floor and completely missed him - to the point where JT was getting annoyed.)  He reminds me of a quicker Corey Magette, with a MUCH uglier shot.  He bullies his way to the free throw line a lot, too bad he made like 50% of them unlike Magette. 

I'll save my conclusions until all five games have been played, but it was at best an inauspicious start for the Dubs.

This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!

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at first Cartier Martin was playin really well

then at the end he started to play like crap

Stop.......... Hammertime!!!!!

by MR. Bigshot 123 on Jul 10, 2009 6:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the write-up

Nice insight and enjoyed the breakdown.

This is Kristin Kreuk, now zip it. - GTTM

by disguy on Jul 10, 2009 6:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

lol. adam morrison just rejected demar derozan.

by homer simpson on Jul 10, 2009 6:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

d’oh. wrong blog.

by homer simpson on Jul 10, 2009 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

Stop.......... Hammertime!!!!!

by MR. Bigshot 123 on Jul 10, 2009 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's an incredible writeup

It adds details in personality and character that’s hard to spot in an online stream. That’s pretty disappointing to see Davidson “not care to be there”. I was rooting for him to show improvement. But, it’s only 1 game. That was awesome of Turiaf to show up. On the other hand, he could just be vacationing there and happen to drop by.

Keep writing! Without Bob, Jim, or Tim to fill us in on the subtleties of the players, we’re all relying on you!

by IQofaWarrior on Jul 10, 2009 6:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That’s pretty disappointing to see Davidson "not care to be there".

either way, it looks bad – because if that was his best effort….. guy was beasted by Joey Dorsey in terms of rebounding position.

by homer simpson on Jul 10, 2009 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

I live in LV, so I’ll be attending all of the GSW games here and probably a few others (I’d like to see Jennings at least a couple times, Griffin, and the OKC team.) I’ll try to get a recap up after every game. I’m hoping that this game was a warm up for them and they’ll come out with more fire tomorrow (esp Davidson.)

by eschalon on Jul 10, 2009 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

great analysis! :)

Ellis to the RIM!
Monta for the win?! YES!

by XIAOXIAO on Jul 10, 2009 8:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

We need STEP UP on the boards,seriously it was ugly…

Its time for a change...

by RunNdGun on Jul 10, 2009 9:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

not as ugly as that Bucks-Mavs game. between the 2 teams, 46 TOs, 65 PFs and horrible shooting to boot. almost as bad as an Orlando Summer League game… almost.

by homer simpson on Jul 10, 2009 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dang,thats ugly.

Its time for a change...

by RunNdGun on Jul 10, 2009 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting thing about davidson

http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2009/07/10/summer-league-day-1

“Didn’t get much from Jermareo. He was sucking wind hard. He was limited in his workout because he was rehabbing from injury. It showed.”

by mosdl on Jul 10, 2009 9:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That deserves to be a fanshot

I think you should post it there.

by IQofaWarrior on Jul 10, 2009 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Though Acie did suck big time,

he had one nice play where he posted up his defender right block, drove middle, and dished to someone (Martin?) for a corner three. It would be real nice if we had a PG who could post up as a way to initiate our offense with the second unit.

by rjnarayen on Jul 10, 2009 10:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

acie

did not suck. Stop expecting him to be Deron Williams. The guy was decent and will make for a solid 3rd pg on the roster.

LeBron James? I'm the only Ty Crane.

by misterjennings on Jul 11, 2009 6:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

let’s just say he wasn’t up to par for an NBA veteran 8 pts, 4 assists, 4 TOs…. and outside of the nice assist rjnarayen mentioned the others were more just passes to a guy hitting a jumper and an assist on a fast break to Randolph that conventional wisdom would say probably should have went to the wing guy and not the trailer. i’d say CJ, Kelenna and Marco were all much more impressive in summer league after their 1 year in the NBA. who knows, maybe the Rockets played great defense and he’ll look much better against the Kings defense tonight.

by homer simpson on Jul 11, 2009 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

AR at the 3 today?

Read on a live blog that AR was playing away from the basket in the first half, more as a SF. Was that right? If so, on offense and defense or just offense?

by JSML on Jul 11, 2009 8:19 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

i think he was still technically playing the 4, he was catching the ball in between the college & NBA 3 point lines. most of the time it started off as a ball-screen with Acie Law. Randolph wasn’t all that effective at it though. i think he was either 3 for 10 or 4 for 11 doing that (he was either 4 for 4 or 5 for 5 on fast break dunks or lay ins and he got 2 lay ups in the half court on pick & rolls with Curry towards the end of the game when the dubs were down by 3 and the Rockets were jumping out on double teams to prevent Curry from taking the shot). outside of one play where he escaped a TO twice while dribbling only to try a 3rd time and lose the ball, he did look like he was trying to be a bit more patient out there – he missed some open guys on 2 drives, but he looked like he had more of an awareness and a willingness to pass the ball. he made some bad reads, but if you’re to believe Keith Smart, he at least knew he made them.

“He still made some mistakes, but right away, he would come over to us and say, ‘I should have moved the ball’ or ‘I shouldn’t have gotten that deep.’ He was right each time, and that recognition shows good growth for a young player.”

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/07/11/SPP618MNTS.DTL

on defense he played the 4 (Martin & Ingles played the 3). mostly he broke down gambling for steals or getting duped into fouls via by pump fakes (hence 9 fouls). really needs to play better position defense. i was a little disappointed after all the hoopla about him gaining 20 lbs and whatnot that he was unable to hold position inside. the 8 defensive rebounds mostly came via his athleticism and not from good rebounding position. he got pushed around inside just like last season… though that was a team wide problem as the dubs got outrebounded 45-29 and the Rockets almost had as many offensive rebounds (15) as the Warriors had defensive rebounds (17). that’s about 53%… consider the dubs were the worst defensive rebounding team in the league last season by a wide margin at 68% and you realize just how bad yesterday’s defensive rebounding was.

by homer simpson on Jul 11, 2009 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

True Hoop on Rudolph after Game 2:

Anthony Randolph should have a Summer League exemption. It’s really not even fair to the rest of the competiton: 24 points on 10-13 from the field, 11 boards, five blocks. We saw him finish with his right, run the break in transition coast to coast, post, shoot from the perimeter. It was the full Randolph canvas on Saturday, and he’s far and away the best talent here over the first two days.

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Jul 11, 2009 11:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

i don’t think that pass to the ref resulted in a TO because Curry corralled it (who threw it to Sampson down low i believe). if only he got 1 more foul last game and a few more TOs this game, he could of had 2 triple doubles… dubious ones, but it’d been funny. i’m sure Ronny & Morrow would of had jokes.

since you were there, was there an explanation as to why Randolph shot the technical FT instead of Curry? i had to smile from the look they gave each other when they ran into each other at the line – like “wth are you doing here?”

by homer simpson on Jul 11, 2009 11:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

AR is the team leader

The whole SL is a confidence boost for him. But yeah, curry should have taken the tech.

by mosdl on Jul 12, 2009 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn’t see Smart motion to Randolph or anything to take the tech, I think Randolph just walked up to the line. I think you’re right about the Randolph pass too, the possession ended up bad, but the pass was kept in bounds by the ref which was what made it so hilarious cause everyone just stood around.

by eschalon on Jul 12, 2009 12:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, so THAT's where you put the recap, eschalon

I was looking for this in a new fanpost. I think you should write a separate fanpost for each game. Then we can keep the post-game comments separated that between games.

by IQofaWarrior on Jul 12, 2009 12:40 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If you guys want I’ll do a new post for each game. I wasn’t sure whether or not to do a new one or not, I just didn’t want the sidebar littered with my posts. I admit it’s already starting to get long, so I’ll probably start a new one for the next game if people want it.

by eschalon on Jul 12, 2009 12:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah, don't worry

there will only be 3 more Warriors games anyway, one on Mon, Tues, Thurs. That won’t be a flood.

by IQofaWarrior on Jul 12, 2009 12:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I pulled out the game 2 part and put it in a new fanpost to make it more clear.

by eschalon on Jul 12, 2009 1:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks

i really like your writeups cause today i couldn’t watch at all

"If you can make 10 things happen during the 10 minutes you play tonight, we will quadruple your salary and you will start for the rest of the season" ... and then he does just that, but the coach reneges on the promise so Anthony has a near-crying meltdown on the bench. That's every Anthony Randolph game.

by gsw1 on Jul 12, 2009 1:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyway, about Curry

people in the open thread also mentioned that Curry’s putting up assist “attempts”, but the guy he passed it to couldn’t finish. Btw, the best line of your 2nd recap:

He spent more time driving to the hoop in the second half than Jamal Crawford did all season long.

by IQofaWarrior on Jul 12, 2009 12:45 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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